Monday, September 28, 2009

Boot Camp under way for Kansas


Bill Self’s Boot Camp officially was to begin at 6 a.m. today, in Kansas University’s new basketball practice facility.

That’s four days after the Jayhawks’ first up-before-the-crack-of-dawn conditioning workout of the 2009-10 school year.

“We’ve definitely gotten after it already the past couple days,” seventh-year KU coach Self said.

Miffed over a pair of scraps between KU’s basketball and football players, Self ordered his team into the gym early Thursday and Friday.

“It was a semblance of Boot Camp, but the start of Boot Camp is Monday,” he said.

It is something the Jayhawk newcomers have been fearing.

“One of the players told me there should be a big sign in Allen Fieldhouse saying, ‘Welcome to Hell.’ That’s kind of intimidating,” freshman Elijah Johnson said.

The Las Vegas point guard/shooting guard — along with fellow newcomers Thomas Robinson, Xavier Henry, C.J. Henry and Jeff Withey — will assemble with the veterans at KU’s practice facility (the fieldhouse is under construction) at 6 a.m. today through Friday this week and next for what is regarded as the toughest team activity of the school year.

“Of course they try to scare me and tell me nobody makes it out,” freshman forward Robinson said. “I look at it as it is 45 minutes to an hour. The people who are telling me about it are still breathing. It’ll just make me better at the end of the day. We’ll be better as a team when it’s over.”

Sophomores Markieff and Marcus Morris said Robinson definitely should be concerned.

“It was horrible — the worst experience ever in my life, the longest two weeks in my life,” said Markieff Morris, who struggled to complete his initial Boot Camp.

“It was a nightmare,” added Marcus Morris. “Last year, I didn’t know what I was getting myself into because I was saying to myself, ‘Nothing can really be that hard.’ Now I really have seen what really can go on. I’ll be better prepared for it this year.”

Boot Camp consists of hourlong conditioning in the morning, as well as afternoon weightlifting, individual drills and pick-up games.

It’s the non-stop running (defensive drills, backboard touches, slides and sprints) that causes the most headaches.

“I’d never done any drills where we don’t use basketballs. This is all work without basketballs, and it’s at 6 in the morning, which makes it worse,” Marcus Morris said.

The coaches make it clear no basketballs will be in use.

“Last year we came out there, and all the trash cans were wrapped around the basket, and they all had Chase Buford’s face on it. They called it the ‘Chase Can,’’’ Marcus Morris said.

That’s because junior guard Buford has lost his breakfast more than once at Boot Camp.

“It has to be Chase puking all the time,” junior Conner Teahan said of the funniest moments in his first two Boot Camps. “I think he puked right on the court his freshman year. Last year he puked the first three days. We have the ‘Chase Cans’ sitting out there.”

Boot Camp has confounded many a Jayhawk.

“The funniest thing I saw was when ‘Shady’ stripped down to everything but his spandex,” junior Brady Morningstar said of former KU forward Darrell Arthur shedding clothes during suicide sprints. “He had shoes on, ankle braces and spandex. He was running and was still so tired. He thought it’d lighten up the work.”

It’s tough for the players to muster even a smile at about 7 a.m. each day.

“The way you look at the end of it … when you are in the locker room sitting in the chair … the guys are just exhausted,” junior Cole Aldrich said. “When we’re sitting in our chairs looking at each other, we’re not saying anything. We’re that tired after two weeks.”

Yet the Jayhawks emerge united after two weeks.

Self’s Boot Camp is designed to help build team unity as well as get the players in condition for the start of practice on Oct. 16.

“The objective is to put them through a tough test, to make them do it together and hold each other accountable, come closer to becoming a team,” Self said. “Another objective is getting our feet and conditioning to the point you can start practice.”

The veterans say Boot Camp works.

“After Boot Camp, we’re in tip-top shape. There’s no way to not be in shape after that,” Markieff Morris said.

That realization should help pull the freshmen through.

“It’s all mental. At the end of the time I know it’s not to kill me, it’s just a test,” Johnson said.

“I’m not sweating it because it will be good for all of us in the end,” Xavier Henry added.


KEITHMILES05 10 years, 4 months ago

IIRC last year Self ended the camp a little early. I highly, highly doubt he'll do that this year. In fact maybe he'll extend it.

indijayhawk 10 years, 4 months ago

HCBS, Let's make this boot camp special for TT..

Michael Auchard 10 years, 4 months ago

I've heard boot camp isn't that bad to someone coming from a HS track background... but that isn't the normal situation for a basketball player.

Kevin John 10 years, 4 months ago

Josh Selby has cut his list to six schools.

Kansas, Syracuse, Kentucky, Miami, Indiana and Baylor remain in contention for the 6-foot-1, 180-pound guard from Baltimore Lake Clifton who decommitted from Tennessee over the summer.

suttonku 10 years, 4 months ago

I bet its hell...Especially this season because they are the #1 team in the country and Self knows they have a real shot at winning the title...I think these freshmen are in for a rude awakening...I think things will be just a little bit tougher for these kids this year...Only rule: No Fighting!

Eurekahwk 10 years, 4 months ago

I bet boot camp will be an absolute walk in the park for Brady Morningstar. He worked out with Hell's Trainer, Frank Matrisciano in San Francisco. During part of their training, they run stairs up a small mountain. There is nothing that Bill Self can have them do in a practice gym that compares to the workout that even professional athletes have quit after just a couple of hours with this guy.

Robert Brock 10 years, 3 months ago

Matrisciano takes some of his trainees to dunes north of the city and has the trainees run up the steep inclines carrying a medicine ball. Then he has them run up the inclines backward. Many repetitions. That stuff may not develop specific basketball skills but it has to toughen you if you are willing to endure it. Brady may be a little more physical this season.

Phoggin_Loud 10 years, 3 months ago

I has a doughnut this morning. It was really good!!! Take that, Frank Matrisciano. :-)

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 3 months ago

I wonder why the Morrises called out Robinson as the one they thought should be concerned about boot camp? I think Withe needs to be concerned. He hasn't been allowed to pracice with the team before and hasn't played in a while. He's also a stick compared to Cole.

Maybe the guys from the football side of the skirmish should have to attend Bill's camp! And, the woman behind it all should have to watch these guys puke.

Jory Collins 10 years, 3 months ago

memhawk, I doubt they called out Robinson. It sounds like the reporter asked them if Robinson should be concerned.

And I believe Withey has been practicing with the team since last December at least.

Joel Hood 10 years, 3 months ago

memhawk, Withey practiced with the team last spring and has been going thru the off-season training regiment, just like all the others. A recent article listed him going from 212 last January to about 228 a few weeks ago. I'm interested to see what he will bring to the mix this year.

Phoggin_Loud 10 years, 3 months ago

Withey up to 228 from 212?? He must be on my doughnut diet.

Joel Hood 10 years, 3 months ago

I think it was the Hudy high protein diet - not sure if that includes doughnuts...

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 3 months ago

Thanks for the corrections. Now, at 228, he's just a tall, heavier stick! Can't wait for the high/low between Cole and him.

Joe Baker 10 years, 3 months ago

Work 'em coach, work 'em! Maybe they'll think twice before doing anything stupid. They'll be too tired. I hope he extends the camp!!

They all seem to have a good attitude and taking it in stride. They will be in good shape when it's all over. Oh Crap!

Topcitykid10 10 years, 3 months ago

Coach I could lose acouple a LB's can I join?

tstanlick1909 10 years, 3 months ago

I think the Morris' targeted Robinson because he is the same position and roughly the same size, obviously exercises like this are hardest on the biggest guys, like Cole and Withey. This is the best thing HCBS does, it gets rid of any priss that may be in the players. Something like this is essential to the start of every season, and it's one of the many reasons that we have a top flite program year in and year out.

jaybate 10 years, 3 months ago

jaybate news service:

Bulletin: Despite LJW reports of up to 40 persons fighting in one of multiple fights, there is still no evidence of more than one dislocated thumb. jns stringers in Lawrence are baffled by the improbability of so little injury resulting from so many fights involving so many big, strong, competitive human beings and, so, are lead to attempt to summarize the possible fight scenarios (aka conspiracy theories), as of today:

Fight Scenario 1 (aka the apparent early Mangino conspiracy theory): Not that much really happened and whatever did happen can be dealt with in house. While the evidence so far, or rather the lack of it so far, lends some substance to Coach Mangino's conspiracy theory, it has not stopped a torrent of both new official conspiracy theories and new unofficial conspiracy theories.

Fight Scenario 2: (the apparent early official conspiracy theory): Rather along the lines of the improbability of WTC I, II, and VII being the not only the first, but the first three steel-framed skyscrapers to fall in their own foot prints as a result of petroleum and building material fueled fires, many stunningly fit and ferociously competitive Division I football and basketball players miraculously fought their ways through multiple fights, while only landing one punch that did any noteworthy damage (i.e., Tyshawn Taylor apparently injuring his own thumb on the face of an opponent). This apparent official conspiracy theory has not stemmed the tide of speculation.

Fight Scenario 3: (the apparent early Selfian conspiracy theory that "I wasn't there and have no clue what happened but whatever it was it must have been bad and I'm back and going to start boot camp early" as an implied means of dealing with it): This is a conspiracy theory by means of omission of any attempt to delineate what happened. It implies that whatever happened must be so egregious that talking about it in public would even further blacken the eye of KU basketball. This apparent conspiracy theory has also not stemmed the tide of speculation.

jaybate 10 years, 3 months ago

Fight Scenario 4 (an apparent emerging conspiracy theory more or less expressed by certain media commentators and some board rats on something horrendous, something that represents a stark discontinuity within the traditions of KU sports has just occurred, whether or not more than Tyshawn Taylor's thumb injury resulted, and that the focus of KU fans should be on the ominous societal triggers for this disaster, and not so much on the athletes. This conspiracy theory offers the distinct advantage that one can be publicly appalled by this supposedly horrendous but unexplained conspiracy, while at the same time avoid blaming the athletes. This theory deftly places fundamental responsibility for whatever may have happened on cultural forces operating on the athletes and on society as a whole. This conspiracy theory is sometimes referred to as "the video games made me do it" defense, or "whatever happened is just a microcosm of what's going on in the larger culture" rationalization. This is a great conspiracy theory to guaranty journalists continued access to athletes and coaches, while simultaneously appearing to be as appalled by the unexplained conspiracy that one suspects the ordinary Joe will be appalled at. This conspiracy theory has also not silenced speculation.

Fight Scenario 5 (an apparent emerging and significantly popular conspiracy theory among certain board rats on evidence of injury and savage mayhem commensurate with multiple fights possibly involving as many as 115 football and basketball players [number an estimate based on approximate total team members] is being suppressed by a variety of officials in an effort to make this episode go away and these officials are taking the significant risk of becoming accessories after the fact in the cover up of whatever criminal activity may have occurred. This conspiracy theory has not diminished speculation.

jaybate 10 years, 3 months ago

Fight Scenario 6 (the apparent emerging "its just too complicated to understand" Lew Perkins official conspiracy theory): Rather like the origins of the universe, this multi-day freycus theory asserts that the reality of the episodes is simply beyond the present capacity of human intellect, and police, and judicial expertise to meaningfully untangle. While possibly correct [and aren't all conspiracy theories possibly correct?], his official conspiracy theory has the merit of placing whatever evidence and claims emerge from now on as being probably beyond the pale of allowing adequate explanation. While it is probably too soon to say, this official Perkins conspiracy theory is also quite likely not to stem the tide of speculation about what actually happened.

Fight Scenario 7 (the apparent "whatever happened it, it either wasn't too bad because of so few injuries, or else one heck of alot of poo-poo-nasty-no-no is being swept under the rug conspiracy because it sures seems like fighting of this alleged magnitude would generate a lot of mayhem" conspiracy theory): this apparent conspiracy theory advanced by lowly swine like jaybate is thought by jaybate news service stringers, who admittedly have a conflict of interest due to jaybate being the media king pin responsible for jaybate news service and their jobs, to be the most fitting conspiracy of them all, because it basically says, officials to date are not being candid enough in their conspiracy theories of what actually happened for a police officer, a judge, a reasonable journalist, a citizen journalist, or a board rat, to arrive at a more definitive description and explanation than this lowly, snivelling equivocation by jaybate.

jaybate news stringers report that sometimes, when all else fails, officials, police and journalists really do have to disseminate the facts in order for a plausible version of truth to emerge, and for conspiracy theory speculation to dissipate.

Note: all of the above posts comprising this commentary by jaybate are intended as fiction and humor. There is not one word intended to be taken as anything but fictionalized humor. Any similarities to the facts of what has actually happened so far are purely coincidental and unintended.

Tony Bandle 10 years, 3 months ago

AAAHHHHH Jaybate, it's good to have back, brother...thought we'd lost you there for awhile!!

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 3 months ago

*Ye Old Hold Harmless Clause*

The opinions expressed by persons posting comments on this site are not those of the LJW, KUSports, University of Kansas, Douglass County, City of Lawrence, State of Kansas, United States of America or any other entity which can be held accountable for results of persons posting comments under real of ficticous names (jaybate) for the purpose of discussion, entertainment, personal viewpoints or the overthrow of any of the above entities including their owners, citizens, employees and other persons posting comments, especially referencing Memhawk aka XXXXX XXXXXX.

This is hereby duly published and becomes a matter of record for any and all comments posted in the past or in the future by myself or any other person living or dead, using any alias or real name. I am hereby to be held harmless in any and all matters associated with any comments by myself or about myself on this website. (Of course, KUSports and LJW can remove my comments at their discretion under their terms)

With all that being said, sounds like Jaybate is becoming a little paranoid,especially with his conspiracy theories.

100 10 years, 3 months ago

Nice job Jaybate, way to step up.

As for your discussion I've noticed ESPN has pulled two stories & counting due to misinformation -- their initial story was blasphomy which essentially quoted our own headlines that the entire campus was in the hospital because of Tyshawn Taylor punching everybody with his left thumb inside his fist.

Also keep in mind -- the only "report" that forty were involved comes from an unnamed source (either made up or campus cops who caught 38 athletes trying to rip Taylor off the ground so he could get into his new girlfriend's car & go on their first date to Lawrence Memorial Hospital) -- oh, and by the way, Jaybate...

All of this "40" unconfirmed cr*p was conviently reported by Dugan Arnett.

jaybate 10 years, 3 months ago

jayhawk news service:

Exclusive Non-Exclusive: jns stringers in Memphis, Tennessee, report, according to a certain coaching staff in Memphis, Tennessee, speaking on deep background only, that a board rat, operating under the alias "memhawk," is withholding crucial and detailed evidence indicating the exact nature of the alleged multiple fights among KU football and basketball teams recently.

jns stringers believe they have learned that memhawk first tried Google Earth to find photographic evidence of what exactly happened on the ground in Lawrence, especially outside Wescoe Hall on the alleged dates. memhawk was thwarted in his inquiry, however, due to the relative low resolution of Google Earth imagery and the decision of Google to Lawrence, Kansas, to its list of politically charged places that are unavailable on line.

jns stringers have confirmed by utterly unethical means (they hired Memphis cheerleaders to flirt with memhawk after he finished his favorite drink--a Flaming Double Jayhawk) that memhawk hacked his way into a Bureau of National Insecurity (BNI) intranet. BNI is a little known bureau and network inside the Department of Health and Human Disservices, and accessed one square centimeter resolution, real time imagery of the entire campus of the University of Kansas campus for for all days of the alleged fighting. Secretary of Health and Human Disservices Kathleen Asebelius declined several requests to comment by jns stringers, citing national, Bilderberger and KU security concerns.

jaybate 10 years, 3 months ago

jns news service continued...

Update to above item: jns stringers can now confirm not only that memhawk knows the total number of punches thrown, but, by using pattern recognition software, he has determined the exact number of teeth that were loosened and fell to earth.

jns stringers also report utterly unfounded allegations that memhawk is now presently hacking into yet another government intranet in order to determine once and for all whether Kansas Coach Bill Self was wearing a rug on any of the days of the alleged fighting. memhawk is rumored to have hacked into an intranet operated by Sub-Directorate 631X, an agency both the Federal Government and Jane's Getting Serious Journal of World Intelligence Organizations denies even exists.

Sub-Directorate 631X is believed to be the intelligence entity created under Presidential Executive Order 792.7 issued anonymously, and without a date, by a unnamed US President. The rumor on the street is that the former US President that the Secret Service identifies only as "DUBYA" is the chief executive responsible for Presidential Excecutive Order 792.2 This organization is reputedly, according to ridiculously paranoid conspiracy theorists, and to most Ivy League professors of political science in the Council on Foreign Relations, the secret adjunct to Skull and Bones that keeps track of the extent of male patterned baldness of all important persons on the planet.

No one has, as yet, been able to confirm, or refute the existence of Sub-Directorate 631X, or the satellite network used to track male patterned baldness, but memhawk reputedly believes that he most certainly knows whether Coach Self wears a rug, or not.

jns stringers quote sources on deep background indicating that memhawk is already being tracked in real time by Sub-Directorate 631X, whether it exists, or not, and whether memhawk exists, or not.


Note: Here again, its all just fooling around for entertainment and there is not one shred of truth to it, nor is any similarity to reality expressed or implied. Further, don't nobody take none of it serious like.

jaybate 10 years, 3 months ago

jns news service:

Errata Update...

jaybate news service wishes to apologize for the egregious error in the first of this three part post about memhawk in which some incompetant accidentally typed "jayhawk news service" instead of "jaybate news service." This person has already been fired and entered on an employment black list kept by a reputed illegitimate grand son of the late Senator Joseph McCarthy. It goes without saying that jns has no idea whether such an employment black list exists and whether or not Senator Joseph McCarthy had any illegitimate grand children. It just sounded kind of catchy, so jns copy writers went with and with the disclaimer just expressed. :-)

jaybate 10 years, 3 months ago


Great to hear Empty-headed Sports Network you are noting them back-pedalling already. Perhaps those who pushed their apparently questionable version of events front and center will sally forth soon and agree to attend Coach Self's boot camp in progress. Man, I would pay to watch some of those ESPN guys try to keep up with our team in boot camp as payback.

Actually, this would make a very funny ESPN promo, if they ever decide to say they got it wrong, or at least say they had inadequate facts at the time of the story to portray it as they apparently did. The promo might go like this:

A couple ESPN talking heads get shaken out of bed at 5:30AM sleeping on cots in a Jayhawker Towers unit. They stagger into some some orange prison jump suits and hustle into Allen Field House to join the team and start the Boot camp work out. Coach Self is gleeful to see them and whistles for everyone to start running. In half a lap, the ESPN guys are stumbling and falling down from exhaustion. The KU players walk over and Sherron snarls, "Ya gotta get up. We don't leave anyone behind in boot camp. Not even guys from ESPN." The ESPN talking heads are helped up by the team. Cole puts one ESPN guy on his back. Markieff takes the other ESPN guy on his back. And off the team runs.

Cut to the front of Allen Field House some time later.

The two ESPN guys and the KU players walk out into the autumn evening high fiving. The KU players are rolling their eyes about the two ESPN guys behind their backs. Finally, Sherron looks them straight in the eye and says, "We forgive you, but get it right the next time. You owe us for carrying your butts through a week and a half of boot camp, man." The two ESPN guys say, "Yeah, sure, whatever you say, Mr. Collins." Basketball players disappear.

Cut to the two ESPN guys walking along looking lost on Campanile Drive in front of the Campanile with the football stadium in the background. One ESPN guys says, "I could have sworn Aldrich said this was the way to that bar. What was it called?" The other guy says, "Uh, I think he said The Wheel. Man, am I glad that's over with. I don't ever want to run another wind sprint in my life!" The two ESPN guys turn to start walking again and are confronted by Mangino and 100 dressed out, snarling KU football players. Mangino grins devilishly and says, "Now its our turn." The two ESPN guys look at each other, then turn and bolt down the hillside screaming with Mangino and the football team in hot pursuit chasing them toward the football stadium. Then a chiron appears on the screen. It reads: "ESPN: we own up to our mistakes." Fade to black.

MemphisMachine 10 years, 3 months ago

Bootcamp, so is there a war on the horizon? Thought that has already taken place with the footb///nevermind lol....sorry couldn't help myself.

jaybate 10 years, 3 months ago


Is this the best you can do when your players can't quite bring themselves to take their own SATs???/// Nevermind lol...sorry couldn't help it when you had to forfeit all the games you won before losing to KU for the ring. Nevermind, chump///lol...

I'm sorry. I just can't quite mimic charmers like MemphisContraption. :-)

Only a Memphisto Masochisto like MemphisContraption would show up at a time like this. Here the bad spotlight is on KU and Memphisto Masochisto shows up to take his smak and eat it too. Go figure.

MemphisContraption, if you can take (and pass) your own SAT, then enroll quickly in a media strategy course. Learn when and when not to lurk. But can you take (and pass) your own SAT? Ah, that is the question.

Lance Hobson 10 years, 3 months ago

Jaybate et al,

I seriously doubt TT injured his thumb punching anyone, despite his barely coherent FB explanation. I suspect he missed badly like the rest of the players and then had his thumb wrestled out of its joint by someone who grabbed his hand. That said, I'll take #7.

As far as boot camp is concerned, I'm not a thousand percent convinced that two weeks of running in the morning results in a strongly bonded team. In the real boot camp, the two week point is when everyone starts hating each other. So, expect some more "fights" about the time boot camp is over. Wait, TT will still be on the DL, so maybe we'll be ok.

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 3 months ago

Jaybate -

Googe Earth, how "08 you are. Get with it man. I've got drones disguised as mini-jayhawks cris-crossing the campus using thermal imaging technology.

You are the best name-dropper ever!

Gotta go, I've just ordered a round of Flaming Double Jayhwks for eveybody here in the bar. I think I see MemphisMachine washing glasses back in the kitchen.

jaybate 10 years, 3 months ago


Excellent point about the two week point of boot camp.

jaybate 10 years, 3 months ago


Man, you ate your Wheaties today!

jaybate 10 years, 3 months ago


Good to be back, sir.

Not to worry.

I just went to a health spa that specializes in removing finger tip callouses from those addicted to


Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 3 months ago

Ralster -

MemphisMachine wanted to take credit for being the first to predict a Southern Miss. victory against KU last Sat.

I haven't seen any comment from him on that.

Also, his U of M Pussycats are now 1-3 for their FB season. The lone W is against Univ.of TN - Martin. Lost to Middle Tennessee State Univ., Marshall, and Ole Miss. Seems like their FB team needs a boot camp to me!

jaybate 10 years, 3 months ago

MemphisContraption will pray for anything negative for KU.

Calipari leaving confronted him with the horrible truth that Memphis is a joke.

jaybate 10 years, 3 months ago


Sorry about that oversight. Didn't mean to undersell your tech cred. I forgot that the thermal imaging gig would be ideal as ideal for detecting differing thermal signatures for skin, skin covered with hair, or skin covered with rug, as it would be for separating coca fields from generic jungle. :-)

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 3 months ago

One thing for sure is that Mangino is 100% natural. No question about his hair, no question about botox (unless something went horribly wrong), no question about anything else that would lead to debate whether it's real or fake. He's all man-gino.

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 3 months ago

I think in order to post a blog on a Memphis site, you would need to write your comments on a piece of tablet paper with a big fat pencil and mail it to them whereby it would be thumb-tacked to a piece of T-111 siding board with a sign reading "University of Memphis Blog" hanging over it.

MemphisMachine 10 years, 3 months ago

1)Kay, Southern Miss lost but that's not the only Black & Gold team you'll face...and you know who I mean. 2) In 2008 Darrell Arthur should not have played in that game period, penalties would have been doled out if not for BCS bulcrapola, but I've moved on. 3) Revenge is due you curs, revenge will be handed to you in defeat this November....we remember, and you should too......remember the tigersss!

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