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Bill Self’s Basketball Boot Camp 2009 has started a few days earlier than originally planned.
Self, Kansas University’s seventh-year basketball coach, ordered his Jayhawks into the new hoops practice facility for 6 a.m. conditioning workouts on Thursday.
He informed the Jayhawks of the extra Boot Camp sessions at a team meeting on Wednesday night. That meeting was called in response to incidents between basketball and football players Tuesday night and Wednesday morning.
“We have started Boot Camp. We had a semblance of Boot Camp today and will start it officially on Monday,” Self told the Journal-World Thursday afternoon.
Self would not come right out and say the extra Boot Camp sessions were disciplinary measures against his squad. The inference is obviously there, however.
“I’ve been on the road recruiting a lot and have not had a chance to spend any time with the guys of late,” Self said. “I was able to spend some time with them today.”
He said they would be back in the gym at 6 a.m. Friday.
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Comments
beakem_in_LA (anonymous) says...
Good. Run the hell out of 'em.
September 24, 2009 at 12:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jayhawkerjoel (anonymous) says...
Never doubt that HCBS is in charge. I don't believe he is G either...
September 24, 2009 at 12:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
b_asinbeer (anonymous) says...
Bill will kick the G out of all of them. Make them run bleachers/stairs/whatever. Point will get across easily.
September 24, 2009 at 1:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
froggiemlm (anonymous) says...
im sure it sucked to be them this morning
September 24, 2009 at 1:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
kansaspike (anonymous) says...
puke puke puke
September 24, 2009 at 1:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jayhawkinnc (anonymous) says...
Hopefully this will teach them a lesson that you have to be held accountable for your actions....especially in a situation like this. And, there are consequences for those actions. Hopefully the guys will get the message that this kind of behavior will not be tolerated.
September 24, 2009 at 1:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
crooner (anonymous) says...
First of all, I LOVE this move from Self. He is often chided on the national scene as a great recruiter and program coordinator, but not a great "coach". Baloney. Self knows how to motive his troops.
Of course, the person who deserves this "positive punishment" more than anyone, tyshawn taylor, will likely not be a part of this or any of Boot Camp. I'm no doctor, but I think you're supposed to keep a dislocated digit immobilized as much as possible. He might be able to do the elliptical machine or something, but he can do these drills, I imagine.
I hope the message still sinks through to him, though. His teammates are going to pay for his ignorance with blood, sweat and tears. If you don't understand that, you don't deserve to start at the University of Kansas.
September 24, 2009 at 1:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
kansaspike (anonymous) says...
Crooner--- TT's legs work just fine.
September 24, 2009 at 1:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
K_Easthouse (anonymous) says...
I sincerely doubt anyone will have enough energy to update any Facebook statuses, let along throw a football player down some stairs. HCBS is the Boss.
September 24, 2009 at 1:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
cshjhawk (anonymous) says...
That'll keep the ladies off of their minds!
September 24, 2009 at 1:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tribehawk (anonymous) says...
Don't forget about Sherron. I don't think his weight will be an issue once Camp is done. Sherron will look like Tyshawn by the end of next week.
September 24, 2009 at 1:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
waywardJay (anonymous) says...
THIS, Is how you deal with this issue.
Have the coaches STEP UP and Become enforcers. Kudos to Mangino yesterday making everyone sit down and Shut up. Kudos to Self bringing the miltary fatrigues and playing field General.
Welcome back General Self, hope this in no way hindered your recrutiing trip.
September 24, 2009 at 1:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jayhawkerjoel (anonymous) says...
Crooner - the thumb will be just fine taped up - no bones were broke. In fact, they will probably make sure it weighs a little extra, just to ensure he gets the full benefit.
September 24, 2009 at 1:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jayhawkinnc (anonymous) says...
Tyshawn should be held out all of November games for his crap.
September 24, 2009 at 1:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
McPhawk (anonymous) says...
“I’ve been on the road recruiting a lot and have not had a chance to spend any time with the guys of late,” Self said. “I was able to spend some time with them today.”
ha ha, I'll bet they enjoyed their time together
September 24, 2009 at 1:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Phoggin_Loud (anonymous) says...
“I’ve been on the road recruiting a lot and have not had a chance to spend any time with the guys of late,” Self said. “I was able to spend some time with them today.”
Ouch! “I was able to spend some time with them today.”
No translation necessary.
September 24, 2009 at 1:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Phoggin_Loud (anonymous) says...
Great minds think alike, McPhawk. :-)
September 24, 2009 at 1:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SoCalAlum (anonymous) says...
Not just "some time," I'm sure it was "quality time."
September 24, 2009 at 1:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Jayhawk1952 (anonymous) says...
Mangino and Self are in control. They deal with each and every situation as they deem best. I have no doubt that there will NOT be a third situation like the two that just happened. If it did happen again, there'd be some heads that rolled and they wouldn't be the coaches'. I sure wouldn't want to be a part of boot camp this year as a player. Following this boot camp, the best shape our players will have ever been in. And a few mind sets straigthened out! And football practice, the players will get all of the banging they want and then some. When it is all said and done, there will be no doubt as to whom is in charge, M & S.
September 24, 2009 at 1:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Phoggin_Loud (anonymous) says...
One can assume that the football players won't get a "Bootcamp" experience since they are in the middle of their season....
But they do have a bye next week. Hmmmm.
I'm waiting for the HCMM quote to come out that states "A bye week gives us a chance to work on ourselves. It allows us the opportunity to shore up our game plan while not having to focus on a particular opponent."
Are you thinking what I'm thinking.
September 24, 2009 at 1:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Phoggin_Loud (anonymous) says...
Correct punctuation would be:
Are you thinking what I'm thinking?
My bad.
September 24, 2009 at 1:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Jayhawk1952 (anonymous) says...
I just noticed that my last post was #1,001,001. Pretty neat number.
September 24, 2009 at 1:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
chicagoeddie (anonymous) says...
nice job coach! i would hate to be them and with tyshawn sitting out im sure the other players will think twice before going along with something stupid like this.
September 24, 2009 at 1:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lighthawk (anonymous) says...
after daily boot camp they shouldn't have enough energy to walk up stairs much less throw a FB player down the stairs....
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I would put anyone remotely involved on bikes like brandon used during his recovery as symbol they are in mental recovery and put them in middle of court while the rest of team ran till they puked ...food for thought.
This is not what we want to do to get on ESPN.....if we had 6-7-8 guys in coats and ties the first few games fine by me...or..sit them down...have half the team in coats and ties for UCLA a big time national game would make a better point than a sit down for the couple beginning cup cake games....
I trust HCBS to deal with it....and the alumns will support any and all of his disp. actions... no matter how strict they may seem.
September 24, 2009 at 2 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
100 (anonymous) says...
kansas jayhawk basketball has officially started!!!!!!!!
(thank you, to whatever nameless 19 year old girl got this going, but next time could you just call Coach Self and ask him to start practice early instead of starting a brawl on campus? -- I am truly glad you like basketball, maybe you're cooler than I originally thought when I read on ESPN yesterday that 30,000 people were fighting in Lawrence)
September 24, 2009 at 2:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
kuwells (anonymous) says...
Jayhawk1952: Stop bragging!
September 24, 2009 at 2:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
100 (anonymous) says...
To the Unnamed 19 year old girl:
While you're away from the players (apparently they're running sprints), do you mind calling Sports Illustrated and ESPN & straightening things up?
They would probably pay you some money for the real story of how you started this whole thing with your incredible hotness &, how it makes sense "they wanted to fight" over you, because there is apparently, according to you, no other women on this planet nearly as hot (and smart) as you, nor as good of a cook.
Lastly, do you mind transferring to another school? (I hear Coach Cal in Lexington is looking for an intern to keep track of his multiple Kmart cell phones he uses to text with)
September 24, 2009 at 2:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
OakvilleJHawk (anonymous) says...
This reminds me of the scene from Kubrick's fantastic movie, Full Metal Jacket, whereby the screw up has to stand in the middle of the barracks eating a jelly donut he snuck in while his company of Marines have to do about two hundred push-ups while he is eating it!!.
Gosh, I hope the team doesn't beat the pulp out of Tyshawn with bars of soap stuck in socks while he is sleeping!!!!
"Hell hath no fury than a head coach scorned!"
September 24, 2009 at 2:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
justanotherfan (anonymous) says...
I've been in a gym for conditioning with an angry coach before. Believe me, it is not a fun place to be. All you hear is the squeak of shoes as you turn and whistles to start the next set.
I'm sure everyone got the message this morning, and will get the message reinforced again tomorrow.
September 24, 2009 at 2:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jayhawkerjoel (anonymous) says...
As a follow-up to 100's good advice to the Unnamed 19 year old hotie...
If you transfer and windup in Louisville, stay out of the Italian restaurants. The basketball stars there are more lecherous than here.
September 24, 2009 at 2:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
100 (anonymous) says...
I hope Tyshawn's girl is forced to transfer.
September 24, 2009 at 2:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
100 (anonymous) says...
Jayhawkerjoel,
Excellent point -- also if I was her, I would seriously stay away from the Kentucky Derby -- she's so hot & smart, people might forget to bet -- she could wreck the Louisville economy for a decade!
September 24, 2009 at 2:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jayhawkerjoel (anonymous) says...
100,
True. But, they always have moonshine and meth to fall back on.
September 24, 2009 at 2:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
priceiswright (anonymous) says...
I have a feeling the football team will be losing some of the free time they would have gotten with the bye week coming up. Give them hell Mangino!
September 24, 2009 at 2:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jayhawkcoach21 (anonymous) says...
Thanks Bill Self for starting boot camp early. The basketball team should not be aloud to wear any kansas apparel until they prove that they deserve to be a jayhawk. This has been a disgrace to kansas athletics as well as the students at KU. Self should make the basketball team run sprints in front of wesco in front of the student body. This will teach them a lesson. If they are able to fight by wesco, they sure are able to run sprints!!!
September 24, 2009 at 2:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
murph (anonymous) says...
I just LOVE it! This way, they won't have the energy to post nonsense anywhere, let alone Facebook. And they certainly won't be up for fighting with football players! It'll take all they have to drag their exhausted bodies back to their room and fall asleep! Brilliant, Coach. Just brilliant.
September 24, 2009 at 3:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
100 (anonymous) says...
Football & Basketball teams:
One more thing. I know most of you don't have kids (nor obviously grandkids), but someday, let's face it, you will -- it's the greatest gift we have to give -- the gift of love, the gift of a family, the gift of a caring dad/ grandpa.
Why bring this up? Because someday your children (and grandchildren) will want to learn more about "all the great things" you did.
When they google this information someday, hoping to find triple-doubles or sacks per game or how much you gave your time to charity, the first thing that is going to pop up will be this fight.
It's time for a new day for you guys -- if you get a chance, say something positive to the press. Talk about a lesson learned. Talk about a bad mistake. Talk about how misplaced your energy was yesterday & how happy you are to be able to get it out on the practice field. Talk about how Wilt Chamberlain & James Naismith must be frowning down from heaven today, but perhaps tomorrow will find forgiveness for us all...
Talk about how Gale Sayers, John Hadl, Danny Manning, Clyde Lovellete & Jo Jo White would have never gotten caught up in something like this, and how, if they ever did, it must have been a big grade school mistake that stuck with them forever -- for the eloquence, intelligence, grace & Jayhawkness that exudes from their souls tells us all we need to know -- they are Jayhawk.
And for this, for yesterday, you should apologize -- and though it might seem hard to believe after such a poor display of sportsmanship, I believe you are all a changed group, who have grown stronger.
Just please, for your future family's sake -- don't make this mistake again. They will see (and be able to google) an apology that appears on ESPN, explaining the real situation (that it was a dispute about a girl between two people).
Make all your moves from now on count -- otherwise hang 'em up, go home & meet some hot smart girl at a gas station who knows how to cook at your new pumping job.... Obviously we would prefer you to stay a Jayhawk, although a profoundly changed one.
Right now we all are shocked, but still support you -- we would like a national apology though that clears up ESPN & Sports Illustrated's misunderstanding about "how many" were really involved in the root of the matter -- most of us seem to see quite clearly that it is two people -- they won't take a quote from us, but they will from you...
And your kids can read it someday & become inspired by what a strong person you really are -- a person who uses brilliant words & not fists to solve a problem, saving his might for gameday.
Thanks guys -- and best of luck this year at school.
Rock Chalk Jayhawk
September 24, 2009 at 3:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
KUbelle626 (anonymous) says...
Great move by Coach Self. Remind them WHY they are even at KU!!!
September 24, 2009 at 3:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Phoggin_Loud (anonymous) says...
With all due respect, 100.
Didn't Wilt sleep with like, hundreds of women?
He's probably looking down from Heaven saying, Damn, she's HOT.
Back then, he had notches on his bedpost.
If he were young today, he'd have tweets on his Twitter.
I'm just sayin'.
September 24, 2009 at 3:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
KU4LIFE24 (anonymous) says...
I am sure the players are getting very familiar with the lines in the new practice facility! Way to go HCBS!
September 24, 2009 at 3:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jayhawkerjoel (anonymous) says...
Phoggin - how dare you disrepect The Big Dipper. It was thousands of women!
September 24, 2009 at 3:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
100 (anonymous) says...
Phoggin,
Did he do anything wrong?
He wasn't married was he?
He was a good man through and through -- a great speaker & a very educated man -- most of us (ladies especially) have "been with" a few more than we want to admit. Wilt was such a big story that his "dates" were more publicized.
If dating is illegal, than I completely agree.
However last I checked it was OK to date in the USA.
He was just better at hitting the walk off game seven HR than most of us -- after all, he is/ was/ always will be...
"WILT!!!"
September 24, 2009 at 3:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Phoggin_Loud (anonymous) says...
I stand corrected, Jayhawkerjoel.
September 24, 2009 at 3:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Phoggin_Loud (anonymous) says...
100,
I understand what you're saying and it was a very touching post. I'm not saying that "dating" is illegal. I just don't know if Wilt was the best person to edify in that scenario...especially when making the point about kids/grandkids google-ing his past "accomplishments".
Besides, I've always wanted to post the term "tweets on his Twitter".
September 24, 2009 at 3:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
chuckberry32 (anonymous) says...
jayhawkerjoel,
I live in KY and I have to say that their moonshine is pretty good! wouldn't know about the meth though.
September 24, 2009 at 3:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
100 (anonymous) says...
Great stuff Jayhawker Joel.
The other point I'll make is this:
Wilt slept with thousands of women, sure.
But after grade school did he ever get in a fight about a girl?
(of course not, because at an early age he realized there were "plenty" to go around).
Heck, if he had a time machine/ be alive again for a day card, yesterday he could've loaned 100 of his groupies to the football team & 15 to the basketball team...
September 24, 2009 at 3:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
100 (anonymous) says...
Phoggin,
I see your point -- "tweets" would be cool if everybody could follow the rules.
I'd be OK with it if they followed the UK Calipari system ((his secretary types everything up so he doesn't say something like, "boy I'm sure glad the NCAA let me go to China so I could keep me and Worldwide Wes away from that meeting, we were sooooo busted!!!!! Work each job like it will be your next job, you Memphis Wilcat fans! Peace out, I've gotta go buy some new untraceable cell phones so I can text some more high school boys you idiot moonshinin' roundball fans~!"))
September 24, 2009 at 4:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jayhawkerjoel (anonymous) says...
chuck,
For what it's worth, I have two of the collectible "Ole Jayhawk" whiskey decanters. You can find them now on eBay. And I have one of the last bottles of Ole Jayhawk bourbon whiskey ever sold - still sealed (late 1980's.) All made in Kentucky.
September 24, 2009 at 4:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
100 (anonymous) says...
I wouldn't drink it.
September 24, 2009 at 4:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
kuwells (anonymous) says...
Dang, I have a bottle of Ole Jayhawk to joel... Let say we meet at the union at 6:30, get lit, beat each other up and see if we get arrested?
September 24, 2009 at 4:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jayhawkerjoel (anonymous) says...
100,
Good advice. I was told over 20 years ago that the content was pretty bad. But, the bottle looks really cool. Maybe a pic should be my new avatar!
September 24, 2009 at 4:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jayhawkerjoel (anonymous) says...
kuwells,
Only if you are G...
Wow, I just realized. The new Gatorade catch phrase, "are you G" takes on a whole new meaning now for me. Bwaaaa hahahaahaha
September 24, 2009 at 4:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
STLJHawk86 (anonymous) says...
If half of what is being reported is true, I sincerely hope (i) Boot Camp is so excruiating painful that everyone on the team pukes repeatedly at each and every session; (ii) in appreciation for being subjected to such conditioning sessions, the non-offending members of the team beat the crap out of TT and any other gangstas on the team: (iii) the basketball team is required to serve as 'water boys' for the remaining home football games (football players will be required to reciprocate during basketball season); and (iv) TT (and any others Self finds to be at fault) are suspended from all games until the end of the first semester.
September 24, 2009 at 4:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
rockbrooklynchalk (anonymous) says...
I've refrained from posting because this whole absurd situation simultaneously disgusted me yet was seriously overblown by the local and national media. But this story brought a smile to my face.
Bill Self, you are the man. This is the best, and only immediate response a coach could take to this situation. What a great coach.
September 24, 2009 at 4:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
100 (anonymous) says...
Coach Bill Self, I second what rockbrooklynchalk just said --
Too bad you had to be gone the last couple of days -- this would've never happened.
As it is, we only grow stronger...
(P.S. please make that girl transfer)
September 24, 2009 at 4:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
FreddyD (anonymous) says...
Here's what you guys are missing - Bill Self is the Real G - the O.G.
Indy or Bust.
September 24, 2009 at 4:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
theajayhawk (anonymous) says...
What are the rules around the boot camps? How many can a coach have and for how many days prior to official start of the season?
September 24, 2009 at 4:40 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
rawkhawk (anonymous) says...
To be fair, I like the aggressiveness, I just wish these bozos would use it on the field and on the court. I hope by the end of the season I'm not still calling them bozos.
September 24, 2009 at 5:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jaybate (anonymous) says...
Thursday with a Raw KC Strip on KU's Black Eye:
} This must be one heck of a co-ed! Helen of Lawrence. Does this mean one of the KU teams will be playing USC's Trojans this year? Watch out for any really large, wooden horses being rolled into Allen Field House in order to fool KU and crush it.
} Hey, I was appalled when I first heard this, but then I remembered how stupidly I acted in the autumn of 1973, when the girl I was going to marrry dumped me for another guy. I got drunk and stayed drunk for, what I have been told, was approximately two weeks. I was a disgraceful, self-pitying mess. College romances gone bad are way worse than divorces. Way worse than getting rolled in a parking lot. And I've been through both. College men and women are half-formed minds, undefended hearts, and hormone-soaked, unisex briefs pretending to be grown-ups and it doesn't matter a whit if they play basketball, football, or explore sub atomic particles. Their romances are often just thinly disguised addictions to the first person that will love them and fill the mother, or dad, socket that they have recently left behind to join the faux grown-up world of college. College men think college women will be as forgiving and indulgent as their mothers. College women think college men will be as forgiving and indulgent as their fathers. Enter reality. They are dating naive savages that can read and cipher and run an ipod nano, but that's about it. Neither understands that each has to savage the heart of another in a bloody right of passage to escape the mother and father sockets they think they left behind, but which remain as neural net burns until being savaged by someone from the opposite sex. We are talking extreme brutality here, even when the key parties are reasonably well adjusted. Giving a college girl you heart, before she has already savaged another heart before yours, is kind if like putting your heart out in the center of the Kansas Turnpike at dawn. It is going to get run over and smashed very soon and she's going to have rented a 100 ton dump truck to run over it with.
September 24, 2009 at 7:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jaybate (anonymous) says...
And yet everyone has to go through it. And every college student thinks getting a broken heart in high school, or really, really, loving someone is prophylaxis. Wrong! If you're going to college, get ready for someone to hit you in the sternum with a ten pound hammer when you least expect it. Its par for the course. I just hope that the un-named player with the now butchered pumper has as good of a friend as I had, because that was the only way I got through it.
} The teams fighting each other, however is kind of sick. But even that is hardly without precedent. Shakespeare laid it out pretty clearly in Romeo and Juliet. You take any two groups with a lot of authoritarian dynamics and a strong sense of turf and loyalty and this is what you get when young lovers unintentionally connect the hot wire and make it arc from one group to the other.
If this story gets any bigger, I can guaranty you that you are going to see a 21st Century version of Romeo and Juliet filtered through West Side Story. As sad as I am for the player, the girl, her new beau, the teams and the school, this would make a fabulous script for updating a timeless story.
September 24, 2009 at 7:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
memhawk (anonymous) says...
jaybate-
Sorry you couldn't claim the title of the 1,000,000 comment author. I hear they may have a contest for the first to post one million words in one thread. I've been looking for the line on that contest. You are the odds on favorite when (if) that contest goes up.
Was the girls's name really Maria that they were fighting over?
September 24, 2009 at 10:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
kuwells (anonymous) says...
jaybate:
How did Romeo and Juliet end??? How do you update that!
How is it that I think this could be solved with BBQ (even that blasted Memphis style!) and Ashley Judd?
September 24, 2009 at 10:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jhwkfan162515 (anonymous) says...
Actually, Danny Manning was involved in some juvenile behavior his senior year. Late in a game with Colorado, CU's Milt Newton and KU's Milt Newton came to blows. As the official was breaking it up, Manning tackled Robinson and punched him a couple of times. For that he was ejected.
September 24, 2009 at 11:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
memhawk (anonymous) says...
wells,
I just heard that the whole "melee" ( as our newspaper described it) was a delayed reaction to the Great BBQ Debate we had a week ago.
One dude was like.."Yo man, the sauce at Bryants is da bomb". And the other dude was all.."Yo mama!" and it was on!
Tyshawn was actually trying to offer a guy a rib when he injured his thumb. At least that's what I think I heard.
September 24, 2009 at 11:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
kuwells (anonymous) says...
memhawk:
Damn, we are responsible? And momma never thought I would amount to anything.
I think some guy was ribbing Tyshawn and he offered him a knuckle sandwich. Lets get the LJW on it to see if it was BBQ or not. (mem, that was clever...)
On a serious note. The first event was quoted by the KU rent-a-cops as having 100 participants. How many you gotta have to call it a melee?
TIme for sleep. This crap has kept me up too late 2 nights in a row.
September 24, 2009 at 11:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
VegasJhawk09 (anonymous) says...
OH yah the early boot camp session was punishment.
No doubt in my mind. Tyshawn can run just fine, right along
with all the other guys.
Anyone remember Full Metal Jacket? The Boot Camp scene?
Thats what this is people. Although not quite as intense.Im sure coach giving
those guys major hell right, bet he made a couple of them puke too.
If you have problems in the ranks, this is how you squash it the Freek out!
September 25, 2009 at 8:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ohioburg (anonymous) says...
"The basketball team should not be aloud to wear any kansas apparel until they prove that they deserve to be a jayhawk."
I like that idea. Show up for boot camp, bring your own shorts and shirts.
September 25, 2009 at 8:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
KansaKid (anonymous) says...
Not all our team is deserving of punishment for a few. Let us all hope they mesh as a team early on. Then also keep it going all year.
September 26, 2009 at 2:01 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ralster (anonymous) says...
Jaybate,
I completely agree with your analysis. I lived thru such a broken heart in college, and thought it was the end of my world for about a month. For the vast majority of college-age kids, "half formed minds, pseudo-adult world of a college campus, yet with very limited life experiences" is spot-on accurate...They are older than H.School, yet still driven by hormones, and things can take on a greater meaning, which also means they can crash harder...(it can possibly hurt more).
---------------------------
I dont know Tyshawn's & the football player's situation, but can any love triangle be good? This literally, is yet another college-age soap-opera love-triangle, although this one involves 2 players on nationally ranked Div1 teams at a very high-profile university, and the 3rd person is apparently a hottie-beyond-belief...(see the hype?)...LOL! Self is in charge. Time for all of us to move on.
September 27, 2009 at 9:02 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )