Tuesday, October 27, 2009

Taylor welcomes family’s support

Kansas university guard Tyshawn Taylor poses with a basketball. Taylor has been learning from mistakes made a year ago during the 2009-2010 season.

Kansas university guard Tyshawn Taylor poses with a basketball. Taylor has been learning from mistakes made a year ago during the 2009-2010 season.


After each game last year, Tyshawn Taylor could always expect three or four missed cell-phone calls from his mother critiquing him on his play.

If the Kansas University sophomore guard thought that was tough, he’s in for an even more difficult chore this year: an in-person encounter with his mom, Jeanell, after each home game.

“She’s going to be in my face. ‘Why did you miss the free throw? Why didn’t you block out? Why didn’t you block that shot?’ Even though I don’t block shots,” Taylor said with a laugh. “She’s going to just throw stuff at me, so it’s going to be interesting to see what she’s got for me this year.”

A year after moving away from home, Taylor’s family has moved home to him.

Jeanell, along with Taylor’s two sisters (Taquana and Ghariana) and his stepfather, have moved from Hoboken, N.J., to Lawrence to be closer to the 6-foot-3, 180-pound guard.

Tyshawn is already taking advantage of the benefits of having his mother closer.

“She cooks a lot, and I need those home-cooked meals. And she washes my clothes,” Taylor said. “The negatives is she always wants to be around me, man. ‘Tyshawn, what are you doing? I’m coming to your room. I’m coming to your room.’

“I’m like, ‘Mom, just chill for a little while. I’m tired. I want to lay down.’ She always wants to be around me. She’s always talking my head off.”

A few times, when his mom has been working at Hy-Vee, Taylor has been asked to pick up his sisters from school. The small favors aren’t a big deal, he said, especially with the support his family members have given him during their short time in Lawrence.

“I think just having that more home-like feel, being able to go to my house and just chill with my family, my two younger sisters, my step-pops, having a home-cooked meal ... it makes me feel more like home,” Taylor said. “It’s definitely been good for me, especially in these last couple weeks. Things have been going tough for me, so she’s been here helping me out with things.”

When KU coach Bill Self played at Oklahoma State from 1982-85, he didn’t remember any players’ families packing up to move closer to their sons.

“I think times have changed a little bit. You look across America, and it’s kind of becoming a vogue thing to do where parents are relocating or trying to get close to their kids to watch them play more,” Self said. “I don’t have any problems with it at all.”

Self believes that many times, parents that live in college cities with their sons help “recruit” other parents to do the same after having good experiences.

Though the perception might be that Self’s job gets more difficult with parents so close to him, he said that’s usually not the case. In fact, his policy is that he will talk to parents about any issue regarding their son — such as their academic standing or social lives — but he won’t discuss playing time.

“Parents have been really supportive and understanding that they gave their sons to us to coach,” Self said, “and we coach them, and they support them.”

As for Taylor, he’s expecting a big year after thriving this summer at the FIBA U-19 World Championship in New Auckland, New Zealand.

Taylor helped the USA Basketball U-19 team to a gold medal by posting team highs in points (10.8 per game) and assists (35).

“I think it just boosted my confidence,” Taylor said of the trip. “I think I’m such a better player when I’ve got confidence behind me.”

Following a Sept. 22 incident in which he dislocated his left thumb in a fight on campus, Taylor admitted he’s been trying to lay low.

“I’ve been in my own world these last couple weeks, because it’s been tough,” Taylor said. “I’ve been doing exactly what I was supposed to do, going to class, working out and just chilling.”

He’s also picked up a new hobby in video games. Oftentimes, he faces off against roommate Travis Releford.

“That’s my way of coping with everything — just chilling in my room playing video games,” Taylor said. “I never played video games until I got to college, and now, I’m a big video-game head. That’s all I do these days.”

He’s also had time to reflect on some of the choices he’s made the last few months.

“I made some immature mistakes, and looking back at it, I realize how immature they were,” Taylor said. “I think this is definitely a learning experience for me.

“When I’m put in a situation again, I’ll handle things differently.”


gardenjay 11 years, 4 months ago

OK, this sounds better. But the video game culture, just like the Facebook and Twitter carp, you need more roots in reality.

Can't say as I blame you though. When I was in Lawrence, it was not that easy to find those roots, and it's likely to be much worse to find real roots for someone famous. My suggestion? Do some volunteer work for the poor, join that church group on 9th I think it is, get outside of the box the staff left you with at the Towers. Good luck Tyshawn, you will get it all turned around.

jaybate 11 years, 4 months ago

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KEITHMILES05 11 years, 4 months ago

How do parents expect their babies to grow up if they move to the very town the guys are living? My kids would not have enjoyed that idea whatsoever!

FairgroveJayhawk 11 years, 4 months ago

Nothing like a mother's love. I'm sure it will be a positive experience for all as Lawrence is a great place to be.

Nick Krug - At some time this season lets have a picture of Taylor giving a thumbs up.

nobody1793 11 years, 4 months ago

So did they move here before or after the "incident"?

gutter 11 years, 4 months ago

Good question nobody 1793. Wonder if his Mother was one of his Facebook "friends"?

Sherronimo 11 years, 4 months ago

Many times last year, I could've placed 3 or 4 calls as well. Tyshawn, we need you this year!! Not many mention this but solid CONSISTENT play from the two is crucial for legit title hopes. Likely X won't come into his own till Jan. We need some of the pressure off sherron and Cole to score till X fully emerges. Yes we have C.J. but Ty has been in the system, no brady, and Tyrel is prob red shirt.

Joe Baker 11 years, 4 months ago

Welcome to Lawrence Momma T !!

Gotta luv it

If momma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy !

TT better make momma happy and have good games.

KANSTUCKY 11 years, 4 months ago

Nice basketball article Jesse... please continue the trend.

and always remember "You can't put too much water in a nuclear reactor." SNL

gthejayhawk 11 years, 4 months ago

That is a hotel with condominiums on the top couple of floors. Neat looking building, but it is heart breaking to see The Crossing is no longer.

Joel Hood 11 years, 4 months ago

soobawls, Yeah, ever since Leo Beuerman stopped selling pencils downtown, Lawrence has just become a terrible place to live. If only Woolworths was still open there might be a decent place to eat in Lawrence.

Steve Brown 11 years, 4 months ago

Is 'tan man' still riding his bike shirtless down jayhawk blvd.?

we bought him a new ride 30+ yrs. ago...a three speed as I recall.

ginger2015 11 years, 4 months ago

nobody and gutter: What difference does it make? Bradys parents lived here a the time of his "incident".

KoolKeith: I think that there are a number of students at KU that attended LHS and FSHS.

gardenjay: How much voluteer work for the poor did you do when you were 19? Just asking.

rawkhawk 11 years, 4 months ago

Good article about Tyshawn. I'm glad to hear he has the support in Lawrence. I miss the old bluegrass/punk rock days of the Crossing when Sin City Disciples would have to use a different name to keep the crowd more down. That said, Lawrence always has had a way to roll with the changes...there is still a very active scene there (The Jackpot, Replay, Bottleneck, Liberty Hall, etc.) After recent visit to Boulder (which has it's nice aspects), I was reminded how truly unique Lawrence is in being a creative place. I see that being a constant for the foreseeable future...

kufootball19 11 years, 4 months ago

Nice insight soobawls, you're clearly very in touch with Lawrence these days.

There is a big difference between growing up in Lawrence and going to KU than having your parents move specifically to be near you. That's a lot of pressure on Tyshawn.

That said, its a personal family decision and I think his family will be very happy here. I'm sure Lawrence is a better place than Jersey City for his sisters to grow up. I read "Miracle at Saint Anthoney's" about Tyshawn's high school .. its a rough area (and a great book for basketball junkies).

100 11 years, 4 months ago

I'm very impressed Tyshawn. Sounds like you're becoming a man.

Words are very important, but ultimately the walk is all that matters. So glad you found the right path...

Rock Chalk, Tyshawn -- we're all rooting for you.

MNHawk23 11 years, 4 months ago

could this be a sign that he stays in lawrence all 4 years? ive seen a lot of mock drafts that have him leaving after this year. but would the family move 1500 miles just for a few months with tyshawn? this could be good

KEITHMILES05 11 years, 4 months ago

Tyshawn will NOT be going league next year. That is the dumbest thing ever. Forget the accolades of "you are wonderful." He isn't at the level of maturity on and off the court. That kind of talk moving to league next year needs to stop.

His momma and family were already in Lawrence prior to the incident. While I take a dim view of parents moving close to their kids during college for him it'll be a good thing. It is obvious he isn't mature yet to handle pressures of life. His momma will beat him down if he gets to acting like a fool again. And to that I say good for her.

BTW, she isn't the only parents that moved to be close to their sons. The Withey's, Sherron's mom, Twins mom, and Barbara Henry have all moved recently.

jaybate 11 years, 4 months ago

On reflection, I concur that my previous phraseology was insufficiently dignified and expressed with insufficient seriousness to permit it to remain, or to enable serious responses.

So: let me rephrase the previous question, because I think it was at heart a legitimate question to ask.

Can young men (or women) today live conventional lives of college students, and get the conventional benefits of the college experience, when their parents move to Lawrence expressly to keep a close eye on their children's welfare, and are often visiting their rooms at Jayhawker Towers?

I am not asking whether parents should or should not do so; that is, of course, every parents prerogative, and certainly parents, based on their parenting knowledge, are likely to try to do the very best to support a child in the most effective ways possible.

I am asking, because parents do need knowledge to try to give their child the best support they can.

Deciding when is the right time to let a child take the next step in life is often uncertain. When is a child ready to socialize on his own, to set his own social agenda, to choose with whom he associates? These are questions parents always puzzle over.

Most parents have the luxury of letting their kids go off to a college town and let their kids make their mistakes of growth out of the spotlight.

Parents of athletes do not have this luxury. When athletes goof up, it often enters the news cycle immediately and then percolates into story threads and speculation, and opining, and gossip, and sometimes stupid judgements publicly expressed.

On one level, having a lot of parents of players living in Lawrence seems a good thing. Parental involvement in childrens' lives certainly through high school yields a lot of benefits to the child.

On the other hand, is extending that close involvement into college necessarily effective? Is a kid going to the NBA better off, or worse off, if his year, or three years, of college, left him almost as sheltered as his years at a home?

College has traditionally been an environment that was a half step between home and the real world, a place to make some mistakes in a somewhat forgiving legal/political/social environment, and to forge at least certain aspects of an independent, self sufficient personality.

Can college be a half step between home and the real world, when a parent has such immediate and frequent access to students living quarters, as parents apparently sometimes do that move to a college town expressly to be with their kids?

Perhaps college can still be such an interim step with parents popping in to college rooms frequently.

Or perhaps such an interim step is no longer even relevant in a society where children grow up in a culture of mass media induced fear and propaganda, many violent communities, having 24/7 access to internet pornography, experiencing normalization of permanent war and 24/7 torture prisons.

jaybate 11 years, 4 months ago

Maybe interim steps like college life are irrelevant in a society saturated with sex in the media and in which substance abuse occurs at a decreasing average age, and huge meta drug cartels the legal system refuses to arrest and imprison, see to it that every adult and child in every city and town, no matter where it is, can get its share of illegal drugs.

Perhaps (dare I say almost certainly) college and socializing have changed significantly since I was in college. So many things have changed since I was young. I could not post my punches when I was young. There was no interactive public forum for discussing my misuse of alcohol when I was young. Presidents still at least lied about opposing perma-war and torture. They did not win Nobel Prizes for enabling perma-war and torture prisons. Perhaps in the currently normalized nightmare that is America these days, parents think they would be mad not to stick close to their kids as long as humanly possible.

Perhaps the nature and need for socializing has changed dramatically?

Our lives have become in the digital age enormously, but increasingly remotely connected, enormously vicarious, enormously less real, enormously virtual. We don't even talk on phones any more. We text whenever possible.

Maybe today's children do not need real (as opposed to virtual) college socializing, fraught with real (as opposed to virtual) mistakes, as a stepping stone toward functional social behavior. Maybe virtual is all they need now. Maybe college is for helping children like Tyshawn Taylor learn how to deal with virtual mistakes, rather than real ones; how to grow to avoid virtual mistakes, rather than real ones. Maybe reality is just a lot less important than it used to be.

Each generation seems to wrestle with new technology. Each generation seems to wrestle with new drugs. Each generation seems to wrestle with new political and economic pain and opportunity.

jaybate 11 years, 4 months ago

Historically, college socializing changed dramatically in America between 1910 and 1930 with the introduction of the back seat of a car parked on a quiet road outside of town. Socializing in college changed dramatically again between 1945 and 1949, when colleges were flooded with WWII veterans, often with wives and children. Socializing changed again dramatically between 1960 and 1975 with the introduction of funky music, birth control pills, free abortions, liberalizing social values, the Midnight Special and a feminist movement. Socializing changed yet again in the 1980s and 1990s when STD/AIDS chastened at least some persons, while killing hundreds of thousands of others (probably many millions now).

Perhaps socializing has changed dramatically again on the heels of the digital technology and the virtual revolution and perma-war/perma-torture.

I honestly am wondering about the nature of social life on the KU campus today among young athletes with parents that move with them to Lawrence. Can they have a conventional social life, or is it curtailed, because of parents' quick access to them? Is it better or worse for their children for the parents to move with them to Lawrence? Usually such things are both better and worse, and the key to successful parenting is to exploit the better and find ways to marginalize the worse.

I pose this question in as dignified a way as I can, now, because, though cast irreverently previously, it seems a valid one for all parents and their children to consider.

Maybe one of the parents of the players, past, or present, could way in seriously on this issue.

I know I and a lot of other parents could benefit from what they are learning about this emergent phenomenon.

fansincewilt 11 years, 4 months ago

This is great news! And it couldn't have come at a better time. Coach Self's approach to a parent coming to town is a very positive one. Taylor probably needed this kind of support and his mother realized it. Times have changed and kids need more today than in times past. Our nation has stopped emphasizing morals, values and responsibility and substituted ideas of relativism, a worthless philosophy. I wonder if Tyshawn could look up Simien. There's a powerful guy who has his head on straight. I am very excited about the possibility of Taylor's future.

Joel Hood 11 years, 4 months ago


I don't think this is a bad thing. Kids can go to KU and be independent of their parents, even if they both live in Lawrence. I think it's great that parents can watch all the home games at AFH with their kids in a Jayhawk uniform. They will never get that chance again. I would love that kind of opportunity. If a parent is going to be overly intrusive, they can do so without actually living in Lawrence (email, texting, phones...)

BTW - Brevity is (still) the soul of wit : )

Joe Baker 11 years, 4 months ago

Sherronimo (anonymous) says...

no brady, and Tyrel is prob red shirt

Sherronimo- Brady was a redshirt his frosh yr! Can't redshirt again!

kufootball19 11 years, 4 months ago

Get job, Jaybate. Or else write a book so that your semi-intellectual waxings will be viewed by people that actually care (if they exist), rather than polluting a website that is supposed to serve as a forum for discussions about KU sports.

jaybate 11 years, 4 months ago


I posted with exceeding brevity and wit on this subject and it was yanked.

I found it necessary to expand it, and make it less amusing, in order to make it acceptable (or hopefully so).

jaybate 11 years, 4 months ago


Since your alias characterizes you as a football fan first, then I am going to try to dumb down my response to you to the level that a typical football fan would grasp. To wit:

Why is a football knob with the intellect of parrot dropping trying to read threads here anyway? Even the most lowly basketball fan's postings here would be hopelessly beyond you. Just watching the beauty and complexity and grace of basketball would leave you as vexed, as a Kentucky Stillbilly perusing Einstein's General Theory of Relativity.

Capice? :-)

TxJyHwk 11 years, 4 months ago

truehawk93 - I believe Sherronimo was saying there is no Brady (because he is suspended for the 1st half) - not that Brady would red shirt. The red shirt was referring to Tryel only.

100 11 years, 4 months ago

Speaking of redshirt commentary, all of you did a fantastic job the other day specilatingvon who would be one of three shirts this year. I had nothing to offer, because it was like reading Roy Williams talk to Adolph Rupp who would disagree with Phog Allen who would then discuss a seperate note with James Naismith, James McClendon & Ralph Miller. Only to then be vexed by Larry Brown, Bill Self, Greg Popovich & Danny Manning. Great thoughtful dialogue the other day.

My only two cents is: There's no way in he*ll Withey will redshirt.

  1. Take a look at his YouTube tapes. This kid is really good. He's 7 feet. He could play the 3 if he had to (of course he never would, but he has those kind of skills). He's a shotblocker.

  2. To get through the Final 4 last time we needed two near seven footers, Kaun & Aldrich. We will need two again.

  3. He's already used his redshirt when he transferred! He's now almost been a Jayhawk got a full year. He will have some seasoning in December.

  4. His injury is very minor. It's a slightly cracked kneecap. That fixes itself.

And now for your 2010 40-0 National Champion (championship game) Starting lineup:

  1. Aldrich
  2. Withey
  3. X
  4. Tyshawn
  5. Sherron

gardenjay 11 years, 4 months ago

Jaybate - what is wrong with football? It is played outside for the most part, and this is a good thing. People need to get outside more often.

Besides, basketball as we know has plenty of issues besides being indoors. The end game of B-ball where fouls are used to extend a clock or win by making another team take foul shots under pressure can be boring as bell. Here is a sport where leaving early can make a lot of sense - spend some more time in your own house. Both sports have boring TV controlled games now, which really bucks, so football cannot be blamed soley for that one.

Granted, football has plenty of baggage when it comes to being unhealthy on the body, but it turns out indoor sports such as basketball are hard on the body too - like for sure, man. So take a breather - take in a KU football game outside, enjoy the atmosphere. I like both venues. Rock Chalk!

Priest Fontaine 11 years, 4 months ago


I too like the idea of twin towers down under. And yes, there is no way Withey redshirts (unless his injuries are worse than reported and then a redshirt or medical redshirt would be possible). I see Withey as more of a sub for Cole but putting them together would present a tough matchup for most teams. Heal up big fella! we need you.

Tony Bandle 11 years, 4 months ago


I truly enjoy your almost unshakeable faith in the Condor/Mad Stork pairing that will occur someday in KU Nation's future. Throw in the Tomcus Morrbinson two-headed monster and KU will have a front line of "Titanic' proportions. This line up will be so ferocious, HCBS will need a whip and chair to keep them from mutilating all KU opponents.

The biggest problem may be that their greatest competition for rebounds and put backs will be, oddly enough....each other!!

Oh.. by the way, I saw on Yahoo that the NCAA is investigating John Wall. Since Rivals is so screwed up, does anyone have a more reliable take on the situation? Thanks.

P.S. Jaybate, why don't you rephrase what was edited out by the paper in Pig Latin. I can't remember a time when you were censored. :]

Firebirdguy31 11 years, 4 months ago

I swear that most of this article was in a previous article over the summer. Do they think we don't read their articles in the summer? I'm so glad that I learned nothing from reading this.

Firebirdguy31 11 years, 4 months ago

I actually think that Tyshawn's mother may be taking it too far with wanting to constantly go up to his room. That's just weird. My parents never came to my dorm room even when they were in town. I always met them outside.

Martin Rosenblum 11 years, 4 months ago

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Firebirdguy31 11 years, 4 months ago

Self will redshirt a SF, maybe two, because we're loaded in that position. X isn't a normal G, he's a SF at the college level. In the League he'll mostly be a SG/SF. My guess is that Releford and EJ will be redshirted. I see Releford and Little being left out in the cold. X and Marcus are going to be at the 3 spot.

  1. Sherron / Tyshawn ----> EJ- Redshirt?
  2. CJ / Reed / Brady
  3. X / Marcus / Little ----> Releford- Redshirt?
  4. Robinson / Kieff
  5. Cole / Withey

Deep on the bench- Buford / Juenemann / Teahan Teahan could be a possible Redshirt. Reed could redshirt but I don't think Self will do that.

Looking at those line-ups, most coaches would die for our 2nd team. Practices have to be insanely competitive.

Firebirdguy31 11 years, 4 months ago

Also, all four of the bigs will be active because we'll need them for foul trouble. Last year we weren't very deep at the PF and C position which is why you saw Little playing PF. At 6'5, Little was overwhelmed and out of position trying to guard players 4+ inches taller than him. Not to mention the difference in muscle and weight.

aerohawk 11 years, 4 months ago


When I was 17 my dad drove me ~1200 miles and dropped me off in Lawrence at McCollum Hall and left after a couple of days. I definitely would not have gotten the same experience out of college if my parents had lived anywhere within a few hours driving distance. MY real life and MY choices started when I went to college (not to say that I wasn't still heavily influenced by my parents).

Based on my personality and personal situation it was crucial that I be far away. For me college was more than just going to class. It was washing my own clothes, making my own meals (after the dorms), being responsible to show up to my commitments, paying bills, dealing with consequences of my decisions....... doing life on my own, growing up.

I can't imagine college with my parents in town. It might work for some people though.

Jangaroo 11 years, 4 months ago


I'm a little confused. You don't have Tyshawn Taylor starting at the 2. I didn't know that was even questionable? I agree that he could help out at the point but I see him starting and playing the majority of the minutes at the 2.

I think most people on this board could agree that from day one there are three certainties.

  1. Sherron
  2. Tyshawn
  3. 4.
  4. Cole

3 position: I would like say X is a certainty but HCBS will make him earn it. I fully expect X to be a star by the end of the year with Little as his back up.

4 position: I know we've heard about Marcus Morris playing the 3 but I think he starts at the 4 and on rare occasion plays minutes at the 3. Depending on how well this year goes for Marcus I think he's the 3 when X leaves. If what everyone says is true, Thomas Robinson would make an awesome sub at the 4 and 5. I don't see Withey getting much playing time this year.

Self has talked about an eight man rotation. Come tournament time I think we'll line up like this:

  1. Sherron/CJ
  2. Tyshawn/ Brady
  3. X/Little
  4. Marcus/Kieff
  5. Cole/Trob

Dan Harris 11 years, 4 months ago

Jaybate- why the bashing of football fans?

mstrausz 11 years, 4 months ago

The possiblilities for this team are just gross. I love thinking about it but am tired of thinking and ready for some games. KU 159 FHSU

jaybate 11 years, 4 months ago


I was just playing around with that fellow. There probably is not a difference in IQ between football fans. The only difference is that basketball is just a waaaaaaaaaaay better game. :-)

jaybate 11 years, 4 months ago


You and I had similar experiences regarding what mattered about going away to college. Times may have changed on us. Thanks for sharing regardless.

Joe Baker 11 years, 4 months ago

I posted Withey's youtube clips at his injury announcement and dreamed of 100s line-up:

SC/CJ- CJ can handle the ball and drove strong for a lay-up TT/Releford X/Little/Releford- X and Little struggled and looked really cold- If Releford finds consistency, the 3 spot may be his for the taking during preseason! Withey/TRob/Mc- TRob had 8pts (1-trey), 4 rebounds, Withey looked a little cold Cole/Mk/Mc- I was impressed at Mk's 3pt ability. He hit 3-treys and one dunk for 11 pts at Late Night. I'm sure TRob or Mc will start in the 4. I know this was a special scrimmage and you can't derive much from it, but I was really impressed with Releford, MK and TRob.

Reed/EJ- Redshirts

Don't think Tehan and walk-ons can redshirt?

FairgroveJayhawk 11 years, 4 months ago

Being from KCK, it was nice to be able to drive home on the weekends and get my laundry done, get a good meal and see family. Tyshawn on the other hand has access to laundry and home cooked meals daily as well as "motherly love". What a deal, man you can't beat that.

jaybate- hopefully Tyshawn will make sure his mom calls first before droppin in so he can fully enjoy his college experience..

I disagree with "re-branding". I have felt Tyshawn is a good person, is talented enough to start last year; with a tendency to turn the ball over, and worked hard in the off season to better himself and the team. I feel his commitment to the Universit of Kansas has been strong.

He made a mistake that recieved national attention. If his mistake didn't recieve national attention, there would not have been such a negative response by those feeling it tarnished the reputation of KU. One person's/player's actions cannot tarnish the reputation of KU. If it could, we would be equal to Mizzou, i.e. Quin Snider.

I like these articles that give insight into our players. To hear where they are from, what challenges they faced in their home town and what they are facing in Lawrence, it's a good read. To hear quotes gives the players a greater demension and allows me to better understand them as an individual and enjoy watching them on the court.

Good story Jesse.

murph 11 years, 4 months ago

Jaybate, I see you have a lot to say about the intellectual capabilities of others. With that in mind, here's a quote from your ramblings above:

"Maybe one of the parents of the players, past, or present, could way in seriously on this issue."

They're going to "way" in?? What? They going to come in by way of where? Antarctica, or somewhere equally close by??

Try saying "weigh" in - which is the proper usage - and then TRY to understand that you're not the absolute end-all, be-all when it comes to knowledge.

imzcount 11 years, 4 months ago


 Jaybate might likely say, "Gee, I didn't think anyone here would catch that".

jaybate 11 years, 4 months ago


The answer is no. I did not write what you wonder about. What I wrote had no trouble passing the filters, when I posted it. I used no obvious four letter words and resorted to no symbolic tricks like asterisks to get what I wrote past the filters, as you did in your post. It did not even occur to me that I what I wrote violated usage rules. But apparently the combination of irreverence and subject matter made it read, as being too insensitive to all players' and all parents' feelings and privacies, and not closely enough on the subject of KU basketball to be defensible in the eyes of the editors.

Now, do you suppose you could define the meaning of the two words you simulated with asterisks, so as to get them past the LJW filters? I suspect the editors would be very interested in your usage of these words (even in reference), as well as your definition of them, and your use of asterisks to slip them past the filters. :-)

Rich indeed.

jaybate 11 years, 4 months ago


u cot mee. i em sorie.

ankors a-weiy!!!!!!

jaybate 11 years, 4 months ago


Tell me you really don't believe I think I am "...the absolute end-all, be-all when it comes to knowledge."

Wait, don't tell me.

Just read the following sentence.

I, jaybate, do not now believe, and never have believed, that I am the absolute end-all, be-all when it comes to knowledge, so help me James Naismith.

There, now, murph, you don't need to fret over that ever again.

Rock chalk!

Steve Brown 11 years, 4 months ago

Jeannell: Keep him on straight and narrow path. We all can use loving guidance from voice of experience. Welcome to Lawrence, Rock Chalk Jayhawk.

TT toe the line or face consequences, in life, being accountible helps us meet higher standards.

okiedave 11 years, 4 months ago

Wow, the basketball v. football players brief interchange has now spread to the alumni. Let is not be so.

Martin Rosenblum 11 years, 4 months ago

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jayhawk_games_fan 11 years, 4 months ago

Man...I hate this old man named jaybate...what an arrogant fool. I strongly believe his psychiatrist needs to be provided a link to all of his comments, so his mental condition can accurately be diagnosed.

Btw, Dr. Jaybate – please do me/others a favor and don’t mind replying (rambling) to my post. Please take your chill pills and prove that you can control your mental anxiety….just for once.

Martin Rosenblum 11 years, 4 months ago

Wow, since Rush's attempt to buy the Rams was rejected, did he buy into the LJW instead?

I've seen obvious violations much more blatant than mine overlooked recently. Must be a new sheriff in town!

I've never seen a comment be removed after such a long time being on the board (reference my 10/27 infraction).

I guess I just got a two-fer. (Hope that has no negative conotation)

jaybate 11 years, 4 months ago

jaybate news service (jns):

Bulletin: Interpol/Basketball Division/Division One Unit/Lawrence Office--Warning Issued...

Beware of alias identifying itself as "jayhawk_games_fan_prime" (not to be confused with "jayhawk_games_fan). Masquerades as an intellectually challenged Antler lurking on Strongly masochistic and seeking strong dominant for unacceptable basketball posting scene. Please contact online editor if sighted. Do not, repeat, do not engage. Armed with extremely dull wit. Identify by intermittent dashes in alias, age-ism and monotone.

End of Transmission...

End Note 1: Hey, how about some basketball content, jayhawk_games_fan_prime? The seasons draws near.

End Note 2: There's a WordMaster in the logonasium, where the newbs go to work out. Try it. It builds logo-bulk.

End Note 3: All fiction. Fictional aliases used and carefully delineated. Connections to reality accidental. Malice absent.

Rock chalk!

jaybate 11 years, 4 months ago



Best regards,

Papillion :-)

Firebirdguy31 11 years, 4 months ago


Self mentioned in one of his interviews that Tyshawn is a better option at point when Sherron is out of the game because we have mostly combo guards. Tyshawn is a combo guard too, but he's better at distributing the ball. Sherron and Tyshawn may start at the 1 and 2 respectively, but the in game rotation will often find Tyshawn playing with the "2nd" team.

Self has also mentioned TRob exclusively at the 4 position battling with Kieff, and Marcus playing the 3. Marcus will probably start, but again, during the game we'll probably see X out with the main squad.

Firebirdguy31 11 years, 4 months ago


CJ is considered a Redshirt on the Jayhawks roster and he was a walk-on at Memphis last year. I think as long as you sit out a year without playing, it doesn't count against your eligibility. Hence, Teahan could "Redshirt." However, CJ was injured last year and the NCAA may only consider medical redshirts for walk-ons, but that I do not know.

Joel Hood 11 years, 4 months ago

memhawk & jaybate,

I recently learned that the warden's rule is only enforced when it is flagged for removal. Apparently, if someone is offended by the obscenity, implied obscenity, or inflammatory nature of the comment, it will be removed. It does not matter if the comment was satirical or tongue-in-cheek. But, if no one flags it - it will last forever (unless extremely vulgar.)

I too was recently slapped on the wrist by Warden Brubaker. Since that experience, I have been sure to clarify the actual intent of some of my more colorful euphemisms. For example, we all know that B.S. = Bovine Scatology (thanks to Gen. Swartzkopf) and that G.D. can only stand for Gosh Darn. This type of tedious clarification may also help you ensure your own sentiments will in no way offend the delicate sensibilities of those who may read your alleged vulgar and/or inflammatory commentary. Cheers.

Firebirdguy31 11 years, 4 months ago


You think Rush would repeal your comment for violation of conduct, he barely censors himself.

gojbirds 11 years, 4 months ago


Time to move out of your parents' basement.

Joe Baker 11 years, 4 months ago


Good point! I think you may be right.

Firebirdguy31 11 years, 4 months ago


"Jaybate- Time to move out of your parents' basement."

Is that the best insult you can think of? Pathetic.

jaybate 11 years, 4 months ago

jaybate news service (jns):

Dateline: Columbia, MO

Antlers Announce Newest Member...

The Antlers weekly meeting held at the venerated Show Me Chicken Ranch and Dog Fighting Club in Columbia, MO, featured an introduction of the club's newest member. He is gojbirds, one of the latest lurkers on the web site.

Antler President James Earl Cape Girardeau said, "We are exceptionally honored to have gojbirds join The Antlers, because he is the first member we have had who can read above 5th grade level.

When asked if any members had a problem initiating someone with a KU-related alias, James Earl Cape Girardeau said, "No, not really. None of them can read, so his alias means no more to them than something scribbled in Cantonese."

rcjh22 11 years, 4 months ago

I can't hate on Jaybate anymore.. somehow he won me over.

Martin Rosenblum 11 years, 4 months ago

Firebirdguy31 -

That is the irony of Rush. He is nothing if not a hypocrite.

Jayhawkerjoel -

I'm not sure if you are correct. I tested the water on this issue to prove a point a while back. I was seemingly like a man on an island with my viewpoint. When I posted a comment that was clearly contra to the policies and rules of this board, my comment was immediately removed. I find it hard to believe that there is a "cop" whose job it is to monitor our comments on a realtime basis. But, it happened to me.

Joel Hood 11 years, 4 months ago

memhawk - I'd bet there are key words that auto flag the post for review (i.e., George Carlin's 7 dirty words you can't say on TV)

jaybate 11 years, 4 months ago


And the fire and the rose shall be one. :-)

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