Originally published October 24, 2009 at 12:20p.m., updated October 24, 2009 at 09:33p.m.

FINAL: Oklahoma overwhelms Kansas, 35-13

Oklahoma defensive tackle Gerald McCoy brings down Kansas backup quarterback Kale Pick in the third quarter at Kivisto Field.

Oklahoma defensive tackle Gerald McCoy brings down Kansas backup quarterback Kale Pick in the third quarter at Kivisto Field.



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Oklahoma defeated KU, 35-13 Saturday, Oct. 24, 2009 at Memorial Stadium.

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Postgame: Oklahoma

Jesse Newell and Tom Keegan discuss the KU football team's 35-13 loss to Oklahoma. What does the future hold for KU football this season? How many more games will the Jayhawks win? Do they still have a shot at the Big 12 championship game? Who is the favorite for the ...

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KU football has five games remaining in the regular season. How many of those games will the Jayhawks win?

  • 0 8% 235 votes
  • 1 13% 404 votes
  • 2 31% 898 votes
  • 3 33% 956 votes
  • 4 10% 305 votes
  • 5 3% 89 votes

2887 total votes.

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Who was KU's first-half MVP against Oklahoma?

  • Jake Sharp 10% 7 votes
  • Ryan Murphy 4% 3 votes
  • Chris Harris 0% 0 votes
  • D.J. Beshears 4% 3 votes
  • Jacob Branstetter 64% 44 votes
  • Other 16% 11 votes

68 total votes.

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If you had the choice of these two options for KU's football team, which would you pick?

  • A loss to Colorado and a win over Oklahoma 70% 149 votes
  • A win over Colorado and a loss to Oklahoma 25% 54 votes
  • Undecided 4% 9 votes

212 total votes.

KU vs. OU

Box score

Final statistics


• Reesing 22-for-42, 224 yards, three interceptions; 8 carries, 17 yards, rushing TD

• Opurum 13 carries, 59 yards

• Sharp 7 rushes, 14 yards; 3 catches, 62 yards

• Meier 8 catches, 54 yards

• Briscoe 7 catches, 60 yards


• Landry Jones 26-for-38, 252 yards, two touchdowns, interception

• Chris Brown 22 carries, 66 yards, 2 TDs

• Ryan Broyles 11 catches, 121 yards

FINAL: OU defeats KU, 35-13

After picking up a first down, OU is able to run off all but three seconds. The Sooners punt it away, and on KU’s final play, Opurum runs for 13 yards.

The Jayhawks fall to 5-2 overall and 1-2 in the Big 12.

OU 35/KU 13 — 4:27 left in 4th quarter

Justin Thornton forces a fumble by OU’s Jermie Calhoun, and Laptad recovers at the KU 46.

At the end of a 10-play drive, the Jayhawks break their touchdown drought on a five-yard TD run by Reesing. The last time KU had been held without a touchdown in a game was in 2005 against — you guessed it — Oklahoma in a 19-3 loss at Arrowhead Stadium.

OU 35/KU 6 — 8:55 left in 4th quarter

It’s becoming fashionable to call offensive pass interference on the Jayhawks. Tim Biere picks up another one for KU, which moves the Jayhawks back 14 yards. Officials are making sure the Jayhawks get at least one of those calls each game.

A shovel pass and a throw in the flat to Meier don’t do any damage, and Rojas delivers his eighth punt. He had only 22 punts in the Jayhawks' previous six games.

OU 35/KU 6 — 11:10 left in 4th quarter

The feast-or-famine tendencies of KU’s defense continues.

After forcing two straight punts, the Jayhawks’ defense gives almost no resistance on the next OU possession.

Broyles breaks a 45-yard reception. Brown follows with runs of 10, 8 and then a 26-yard run and dive into the end zone.

It’s gone from bad to plain ugly for KU.

OU 28/KU 6 — 14:10 left in 4th quarter

Reesing is pressured and has to roll out on second down, finally throwing the ball away. Auston English comes with penetration again on third down, and he crunches Reesing for a nine-yard sack. It appears for the second straight year, OU’s defensive line will be a major reason for a Sooners’ victory over the Jayhawks.

OU 28/KU 6 — End of 3rd quarter

Reesing continues to be inaccurate throwing into the wind. A low throw on second down is followed by a high throw on third down. Rojas comes out to punt again.

OU looks content to make KU’s offense win this game. The Sooners call a pair of conservative runs on second-and-3 and third-and-1, and Jake Laptad stuffs the latter, forcing a punt back to KU.

The Jayhawks strike for a big play down the field, as after rolling right, Reesing finds Wilson down the sideline for 31 yards. Reesing tries for the home run again on a deep ball to Meier in the end zone, but Meier can’t rip the ball away from an OU defender and the ball falls incomplete.

OU 28/KU 6 — 2:47 left in 3rd quarter

We see the first round of KU’s version of the Wildcat-style offense, and the results aren’t pretty. Kale Pick comes in for two plays — a four-yard rushing loss and a one-yard rushing loss — and a short pass to Meier on third-and-15 forces another KU punt.

The Jayhawks’ defense follows with a quick stop, forcing a three-and-out after an incompletion from Jones on third-and-5. KU is on life support, but because of the quick stop, the Jayhawks aren’t quite dead yet.

OU 28/KU 6 — 6:18 left in 3rd quarter

It’s a full meltdown for KU’s defense. Jones passes to Caleb for 13, Miller for nine and Broyles for 14.

Beshears flat out tackles Tennell on a deep pass, and he draws three flags for pass interference and also a substitution.

Brown ends the drive with an eight-yard TD catch on a screen. KU’s defense has no answer for the Sooners’ no-huddle, hurry-up offense.

The KU students hung in there for a while, but many of them have seen enough and are heading for the exits.

OU 21/KU 6 — 8:45 left in 3rd quarter

The halftime adjustments for KU don’t work on the first offensive possession of the half.

The Jayhawks pick up 10 yards on the first three plays, but a Reesing pass is tipped at the line, and an underthrown pass to Briscoe is knocked away. Briscoe picks up eight on third-and-10, and Rojas punts it away.

KU is in danger of seeing this game fall out of reach.

OU 21/KU 6 — 11:29 left in 3rd quarter

KU’s defense shows signs of cracking on OU’s first possession of the second half. Jones finds a wide-open Brandon Caleb for 13 yards on a third-and-6. Jeff Wheeler is flagged for a roughing-the-passer penalty, which gives OU a first down on what would have resulted in a third-and-15.

OU continues to go hurry-up to tire KU’s defense. It works.

On third-and-6, Tennell breaks a tackle attempt by Beshears and runs 18 yards down the sideline. Two plays later, Tennell catches a nine-yard pass and reaches into the end zone.

Jimmy Stephens adds the extra point, and KU has lost any momentum it gained heading into the half.

Stats of note


• Reesing — 11-for-21, 121 yards, 3 interceptions; 21 rushing yards

• Sharp — 6 carries, 14 yards; 2 catches, 62 yards

• Opurum — 7 carries, 19 yards

• Meier — 5 catches, 27 yards

• Briscoe — 3 catches, 25 yards


• Landry Jones — 12-for-21, 82 yards, interception

• Ryan Broyles — 7 catches, 53 yards

Team stats

• KU is leading OU in offense (171-110), passing (121-82) and rushing (50-28).

• The Jayhawks have had the ball 19:19 to the Sooners' 10:41.

•KU has four penalties for 25 yards. OU had no penalties in the first half.

• OU is just 1-for-7 on third-down conversions.

OU 14/KU 6 — Halftime

A questionable play call and player decision could end up haunting OU.

KU had just one timeout left, and with the clock running and 1:20 to go in the half, OU called a running play to the outside. Brown ended up going out of bounds to stop the clock, in essence giving KU another timeout.

On the next play, Jones’ pass over the middle was batted in the air, and Ryan Murphy came down with the interception at the OU 40.

KU had a touchdown in its grasp on the next play, as Reesing delivered a low throw to Briscoe, who bobbled it up to himself four different times before it fell to the turf in front of him. Had he caught it, he would have scored a 40-yard touchdown.

Reesing is sacked, and on third-and-long, a shovel pass to Sharp goes for six yards and is greeted with boos from the crowd.

With just two seconds remaining in the half, Mangino elects for a 57-yard field goal attempt from Branstetter with the wind. The kicks sails just over the crossbar, going through the uprights for Branstetter’s longest field goal (by far) of his career. The kicker, an emotional guy anyways, raised his fist as he led his team sprinting into the halftime locker room.

KU, after all the offensive struggles, is down just one possession at half.

OU 14/KU 3 — 2:03 left in 2nd quarter

Once again, KU’s offense can’t fully capitalize on an opportunity given to it.

After short passes to Briscoe and Meier, Reesing scrambles ahead for one yard. The senior QB is not making quick decisions with the football.

After briefly entertaining the idea of going for it on fourth-and-2, Mangino makes the wise decision and sends Branstetter out for a field-goal attempt. The junior splits the uprights on a 39-yard attempt, and KU breaks the shutout.

OU 14/KU 0 — 2:55 left in 2nd quarter

After handing OU all the breaks, KU finally is the beneficiary of a gift from the Sooners.

KU’s defense continues to shut down OU’s passing game, and after three incomplete passes, the Sooners have to punt.

OU’s Tress Way gets a good snap, but he drops it, and KU’s Steven Foster tackles him to make sure he can’t get a kick away. The special teams miscue gives KU the ball on the OU 28. Twice the Jayhawks wasted opportunities like this last week against Colorado. We’ll see what they do here.

OU 14/KU 0 — 4:40 left in 2nd quarter

The scoreboard doesn’t show it, but KU’s defense has played extremely well today. The Jayhawks hold again on third-and-9, as the sure-handed Beshears makes a textbook tackle, this time holding Adron Tennell to a five-yard reception.

Following a punt, KU has good field position at its own 36. But after picking up a first down, the Jayhawks go backwards, as a false start and OU sack by Taylor, followed by a Reesing incompletion, force KU to punt.

OU 14/KU 0 — 10:03 left in 2nd quarter

McDougald bobbles the kickoff for KU, but the thrown-off timing actually works in KU’s favor, as the freshman finds a seam and returns the ball 34 yards to the KU 47.

Reesing comes through with a good throw on his next attempt, slinging the ball over the middle to Briscoe for 13 yards. All three of Reesing’s picks have come on passes attempted to go to the outside. Will KU look to go to more routes over the middle.

On third-and-5, Reesing’s pass to Meier is a little high, and Meier catches the ball out of bounds. The Jayhawks give the appearance of trying a 49-yard field-goal attempt, but a direct snap to Jacob Branstetter it punted instead. KU downs the ball at the OU 2, but once again wastes good field position.

OU 14/KU 0 — 13:41 left in 2nd quarter

Another big third-down pickup by Reesing using his feet. On third-and-5 at the 15, Reesing squirts through a small hole ahead for five yards, picking up a new set of downs by a couple feet.

And just like that, Reesing has nearly thrown the Jayhawks out of this game. He tries a long throw on a wide-receiver screen, and Dominique Franks easily steps in front of it and takes off 85 yards down the sideline for a touchdown.

Reesing’s line: 6-for-13, 89 yards, three interceptions.

OU 7/KU 0 — End of 1st quarter

Briscoe’s back in, and he makes an all-hands catch for an eight-yard gain over the middle.

On third-and-two, Opurum is stopped a yard short of the first down, but powers his way two more yards forward after contact. First down KU. That’s the benefit of having a power back like Opurum in there.

On second-and-13, Reesing has tons of time, but after surveying the whole field, he short-hops Opurum on a pass to the flat. On third-and-13, KU tries a shovel pass to Sharp, but even that doesn’t go well, as Reesing doesn’t put enough zip on it and Sharp can’t hold on. It looked like Sharp had a lot of room to run had he been able to come up with the catch.

KU’s defense comes up with a stop, though, as D.J. Beshears makes a nice open-field tackle on first down and on third-and-8, Chris Harris tackles Jaz Reynolds four yards short of the first down.

On KU’s next possession, Sharp breaks free for KU’s best play of the day. On a shovel pass, he ripped his way away from one defender, then broke into the open for a 56-yard gain to the KU 29. Credit Johnathan Wilson for helping spring the play, as he continued with a downfield block and helped Sharp pick up an additional 20-30 yards.

OU 7/KU 0 — 4:55 left in 1st quarter

A huge play by KU is negated by an offsides penalty by the Jayhawks’ Caleb Blakesley. Darrell Stuckey came on a blitz, sacking Jones and forcing a fumble with the Jayhawks falling on it. It was all for naught, though, as Blakesley jumped offsides a second early.

Stuckey knocks away a pass on third-and-5, and OU is forced to punt. KU will start its third straight drive on its own 20-yard line.

OU 7/KU 0 — 6:22 left in 1st quarter

On KU’s kickoff return, Briscoe is walloped at the 20, and the nation’s leading receiver is slow to get up. Trainers go out to check on him, and he walks off the field under his own power.

KU’s first run of the game — a five-yard carry by Jake Sharp — is negated by a chop block on Tanner Hawkinson.

Reesing, after dropping back, waits for the defensive linemen to penetrate then runs right by them, gaining 17 yards on a QB draw. As I mentioned earlier, UT’s Colt McCoy had a lot of success running that same play last week. Reesing will have to be careful to avoid getting hit hard once he picks up some yards.

KU’s offensive line has done a great job of run-blocking so far and knocking OU’s talented defensive linemen off the ball. A four-yard rush by Sharp is followed by an eight-yard gash up the middle by Opurum.

Reesing once again uses OU’s defensive aggressiveness against the Sooners. On third-and-8, he runs right past the rushing linemen, sliding for nine yards and another first down.

A promising drive turns sour for KU in a hurry, though, as Adrian Taylor gets penetration then tips Reesing’s pass, which is intercepted by OU’s Jeremy Beal. The Sooners will take over at their own 24.

OU 7/KU 0 — 11:06 left in 1st quarter

Yep, the first-quarter struggles continue.

Todd Reesing makes a horrible read on the game’s first play, failing to see that Dezmon Briscoe was double-teamed with a cornerback and a safety. Reesing’s toss is well overthrown, too, and Quinton Carter comes down with the easy interception for the Sooners at the KU 46.

OU comes out firing offensively. Landry Jones completes a pass over the middle to Dejuan Miler, who gets tripped up after a 13-yard gain. The Sooners go into an extreme hurry-up after the first down, and Jones hits Broyles for four more. On a naked bootleg, Jones finds a huge hole around the left side for 15 more yards.

KU’s defense holds off OU for four straight plays inside the two-yard line. Jones is stuffed on two straight QB sneaks from the 1, and Chris Brown is knocked out of bounds on third-and-goal for no gain. On fourth-and-goal from the 1, with KU’s crowd going crazy, Brown finds a crease on the left side and falls forward into the end zone.

For the second straight week, KU’s offense has put the Jayhawks in an early hole.

2:35 p.m.

OU wins the toss and defers. KU will receive. We'll see if the Jayhawks can reverse their first-quarter blues offensively.

2:32 p.m.

Let's set the scene here a bit.

This game was listed as a sellout before the game, and almost all the seats are filled in already.

Sooners fans are taking up two full sections, and there are also some sprinkles of crimson shirts around the stadium. Otherwise, it's all blue, which is a good sign for the Jayhawks, who will need the home-field advantage today.

It's nearly perfect weather here. Sixty-five degrees, partly-cloudy skies, winds out of the southwest gusting up to 15 miles per hour.

2:20 p.m.

The word around the press box is that OU running back DeMarco Murray is out for the Sooners. That's a huge break for KU.

2:12 p.m.

After watching the OU-UT game tape from last week, I'm thinking that if KU is ever going to tinker with running a Wildcat-based offense, this would be the week to do it.

OU's defensive line, led by Gerald McCoy, is a tough unit to defend against. The defensive linemen were constantly getting pressure in UT's backfield and seemed to always get penetration.

UT countered this partly by calling a ton of runs to the outside to avoid the OU defensive linemen. Another way the Longhorns attacked it was by running draw plays or by having quarterback Colt McCoy run past the penetrating defensive linemen after they started their rush to make it to the next level.

A third way to possibly attack OU's defense would be to use the Wildcat-type offense.

By putting someone back in a Wildcat-based offense (Kale Pick seems like the best candidate for KU), the Jayhawks could attack the perimeters of OU's defense easily. They also could gain an additional blocker to try to double-team McCoy inside.

Though we haven't seen any Wildcat-like set so far from KU, I would think that if it's going to happen at all this season, this would be the day for it.

1:07 p.m.

The KU-CU game was featured in friend-of-the-blog Bill Connelly's Varsity Numbers column this week, albeit for the wrong reasons if you're a KU fan.

You can check out some of his observations there. Here are a few of the things I found interesting after looking at his "Beyond the Box Score" box score of the game.

For a refresher on the terms such as S&P;, click on this link.

• KU's turnover equivalency points — 13.45

• CU's turnover equivalency points — 13.49

What does this mean?

Remember, equivalent points measures the number of points an average NCAA team scores when it is given the ball on a particular yard line.

All week, I talked about how Todd Reesing's two turnovers killed KU. We can see that here, as following those two turnovers, an average NCAA team would score 13.45 points on KU. CU scored 14.

Here's the interesting thing, though: On average, KU should have scored more points off CU's turnovers than CU did off KU's turnovers.

Following CU's three turnovers last week, an average NCAA team would have scored 13.49 points. KU took over after those turnovers on its own 30, CU's 41 and CU's 24. The Jayhawks scored just six points (interception, field goal, field goal).

So, in fact, the difference in the game wasn't Reesing's turnovers. It was the KU offense's inability to capitalize on the turnovers it was given.

• Colorado's sack rate on non-passing downs — 20 percent.

A non-passing down is any first down, second down with 1-7 yards to go, or third/fourth down with 1-4 yards to go. I know KU was coming from behind most of the game, meaning most non-passing downs were still most likely passing downs, but this number is still way too high from a KU perspective.

• KU offensive S&P; on first downs — 1.196

• KU offensive S&P; on second downs — .487

• KU offensive S&P; on third downs — .501

Remember, S&P; measures a team's efficiency and explosiveness. KU had much more success on first downs than second and third downs. For one week, a strong passing game for KU didn't necessarily mean success on tough downs and distances.

• KU's quarter 1 offensive S&P; — 0.542

• KU's quarter 2 offensive S&P; —0.665

• KU's quarter 3 offensive S&P; —0.757

• KU's quarter 4 offensive S&P; —1.229

The first quarter is a huge concern today for KU. Tom Keegan has already broached this topic in a column earlier this week, but it's worth repeating.

KU's offensive simply can't afford to get off to a slow start.

Talking with KU offensive coordinator Ed Warinner this week, he felt KU was just a little unlucky in the first quarter against CU. On one third-down play, CU misaligned itself and ended up in the right spot to make a play. On another third-down play, Todd Reesing had one of his few inaccurate passes that fell incomplete.

Whatever the case, KU needs to be better this week. OU has outscored its opponents 51-0 in the first quarter this season. The Jayhawks can't afford to have their offense put them in a huge hole for the second straight game.

12:20 p.m.

Welcome back to the Newell Post Live, coming to you from Lawrence where No. 24 Kansas is getting set to take on No. 25 Oklahoma.

We'll get to some analysis later, but I wanted to start this blog off with a video and also a discussion topic.

First off, KU hasn't defeated Oklahoma in football since Oct. 4, 1997, when Terry Allen was still the coach.

In the offseason, I featured a Jayhawk Flashback on that game.


Jayhawk Flashback: Oklahoma, 10/4/97

The video of that game can be seen on the left.

Also, I wanted to get your guys' opinion on this topic: Which, as a KU fan, would you rather have: a win over Colorado and a loss to Oklahoma, or a loss to Colorado and a win over Oklahoma?

The question made for good debate in the office this week. Tom Keegan said he'd rather have a loss to Colorado and a win over Oklahoma, because at least then, you would have a victory over a strong opponent. I can see his point, as what has hurt the Jayhawks over the last three years, at least in the public eye, is the lack of victories over big-name opponents (Missouri last year and Virginia Tech two years ago are the only two ranked teams KU has beaten in the last three years).

I think I'd go the other way, though. If I were a KU fan and my team had started 6-0 after beating Colorado, I don't think I'd be too down even after a loss to Oklahoma. The Sooners traditionally have been powerhouse, and at 6-1, I would still feel like KU had plenty of opportunities to beat a big-name opponent after taking care of business against the teams it was supposed to beat. I think the CU loss does more damage to KU's reputation than a win over OU would help.

So what do you think? Which scenario would you prefer? Make sure to vote in the poll on the left.


kranny 10 years, 5 months ago

As I'm watching K-State roll on CU, my thoughts are that KU had better get some things figured out real quick or they are going to be hard pressed to win another game the rest of this season if they continue to play the way they have been the past three games.

10 years, 5 months ago

Loss vs. CU & win vs. OU - - gives us a quality win, and momentum going into the Texas Tech game.

Jesse Newell 10 years, 5 months ago

kranny — You think K-State fans might show up to that KU game at the Bill in two weeks?

kranny 10 years, 5 months ago

Jesse, I think the Bill will be rockin'. It will be a serious gut check for the Hawks.

Mike Johns 10 years, 5 months ago

Great question... but my answer is tainted since we have already lost to colorado... i just want the win today....

i guess all in all .. beat the teams that you are supposed to... and give it your all against the others.

quality win vs terrible loss...


minnhawk84 10 years, 5 months ago

any links to an audio stream of the KU-OU game today? We get Michigan Penn State up here in Minnesota.......and on ESPN.

Prefer audio to video stream as my Verizon account can't handle 3 hrs of video streaming........but if I must, I must

Mike Johns 10 years, 5 months ago

in an unrelated event... the commentators of OSU v Minn were asked a question about big 12 teams.... which team in the big 12 has 2 shutouts...his answer ... TCU??? come on - they are paid for this?


Jesse Newell 10 years, 5 months ago

kranny — I said on the radio before the Colorado game that KU-KSU in Manhattan was a scary game for KU. I think it's looking scarier by the minute.

If the Wildcats hold their lead today, at worst they will be 3-2 in the Big 12 heading into the KU game. That means they'll still be in the thick of the Big 12 North race with the possibility of still being in first.

As if Wildcat fans needed another reason to be excited for that game ...

kranny 10 years, 5 months ago

I still feel that our linebackers are key for us from this point on. Also, as much as I hate to call out TReesing, he needs to take care of the ball better in vulnerable situations: throwing a pick against Iowa State in the red zone. Throwing a pick that's returned to the 2 and a fumble deep in our own territory. That's tough for any team to overcome. Take of the ball, offense stay on the field. Positive field position will be key against OU today.

minnhawk84 10 years, 5 months ago

cwag - Thanks. I got a Firefox Browser popup warning me the "listen now" site was dangerous for be reported for trojan horses and malicious viruses, but took the plunge as I am listening on a Mac. You made my day. Just tell me Lazer carries all of the football and basketball games, and I'll die a happy man. Sitting up in the Northwoods of Minnesota at the cabin, this will change everything.

thare 10 years, 5 months ago

Don't get the game here in DC. Anyone know a where it's being streamed online??

cwag 10 years, 5 months ago

Minn - They carry all the varsity games, along with , , and others. They do have a limited bandwidth, so be sure to stream early or you might get left out in the cold.

10 years, 5 months ago

thare ~

Check out ESPN 360 online. If you don't have any luck there, try

Mike Johns 10 years, 5 months ago

we got the kickoff and then OU had the ball...i missed what happened... turnover?

cwag 10 years, 5 months ago

Down goes Corn! ISU 9 NU 7 1st win for ISU in Lincoln in 30+ years.

Now if we can only pull our heads out.

cwag 10 years, 5 months ago

Corn had 8 turnovers today - is Reesng trying to beat that?

Dirk Medema 10 years, 5 months ago

Usually, an OU win is a win against a ranked team and a quality win. Not necessarily seen that way this year.

Dale Kroening 10 years, 5 months ago

Can get on lazer, no live streams this sucks !!!!!!!!!!

Dale Kroening 10 years, 5 months ago

Yeah no luck but now there is a live stream on : Thanks !!!!!!!!!

cwag 10 years, 5 months ago

ND 3 BC 2 4:55 1st 2 run double for BC

cwag 10 years, 5 months ago

End of quarter break, and you can't get the play off in time?!?!?!

Christopher Hauser 10 years, 5 months ago

must we spot other teams 14-21 points before we start executing?

Christopher Hauser 10 years, 5 months ago

Don't mean to sound like a fair weather fan but basketball starts soon!

KGphoto 10 years, 5 months ago

Shades of Cody Hawkins. WTF!!!!!!!

All week OK was planning to stop the sideline crap. And he handed it over on a platter!

Dale Kroening 10 years, 5 months ago

Terrible throw Todd. The defender was right there. C'MON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ryan Mullen 10 years, 5 months ago

I am not sure why but, I think we are going to come back and win this game. Oklahoma's offense is horrible and KU still has an amazing one. We are still going to win this one.

Dale Kroening 10 years, 5 months ago

Nice kick now we need a safety !!!!!!!!!!!!!

escaped_labrat 10 years, 5 months ago

Who kidnapped Reesing and replaced him with a body double? The offense looks a little bit dazed and confused.

KGphoto 10 years, 5 months ago

Hate to say it, but a fact is a fact. Todd is not himself this year. His inflated stats are a result of comeback efforts, and his interceptions and poor decisions are killing wins. He's waiting W.A.Y. too long to get rid of it. He's trying too hard and wasting a great defensive performance.

Sean Rodger 10 years, 5 months ago

OU is just begging for a game - why can't we capitalize? Jeesh!

Dale Kroening 10 years, 5 months ago

Ok thats a start. Wish we could have gotten 7 though.

Jim Darnall 10 years, 5 months ago

Looks like they should have stayed in their dorms. They have no intensity on offense and are thinking horizontal instead of vertical with passes. Not losening up Oklahoma defense by going down the middle or long. Reesing is definately not focused at all. Defense playing well though.. Coaches not helping by being too conservative with offensive play calling. Hopefully the 2nd half they will wake up...

Ryan Mullen 10 years, 5 months ago


He started not performing as well, right around the time that article came out about those people naming there son after him. Too much pressure on him I guess.

Dale Kroening 10 years, 5 months ago

HELLUVA Kick !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KGphoto 10 years, 5 months ago

That ball curved 10 feet in the last 5 yards. Good!!

KuKain 10 years, 5 months ago

Well at least we have one offensive player focused. =/

Jim Darnall 10 years, 5 months ago

It's almost half time and the coaching staff has gone brain dead..Wow,, thanks for the field goal. Do you suppose that will get the offense fired up????

escaped_labrat 10 years, 5 months ago

On the bright side, the defense is starting to look pretty good....but OU is a very poor offensive team this year

KGphoto 10 years, 5 months ago

mullen: agreed.

Briscoe had a TD and Todd tensed up. No reason it's not 21-0 KU, except for Reesing. I can't believe I just said that.

MrPilot 10 years, 5 months ago

What an ass-kicking performance by our D-line so far. Now...if Mangino can just wake up the Offense in the locker room...

Jim Darnall 10 years, 5 months ago

Well, there is no reason we shouldn't win this game if we just play like we want to win. I am mainly talking about the offense.

cwag 10 years, 5 months ago

Down by 8 when we should be up by 17. Can MM light a fire under these guys? We shall see.

Jim Darnall 10 years, 5 months ago

Mangino needs to get more aggressive with his passing game. This dink and dunk left then right just ain't going to get it done,

Lone_salina_kufan 10 years, 5 months ago

Tough to get aggressive in passing game when your idiot quaterback throws 3 picks

Lone_salina_kufan 10 years, 5 months ago

We can also officially end the blown up Heisman talk about Reesing, so maybe he can start playing relaxed again. Im just shocked to see a MM team play this way. Its puzzling

cwag 10 years, 5 months ago

Defense needs to force a couple of TOs.

Clarence Haynes 10 years, 5 months ago

My hangup with our corner backs is their height.

Dale Kroening 10 years, 5 months ago

Crap call Wheeler was pushed into the QB !

cwag 10 years, 5 months ago

This team is regressing - not a good sign.

Kent Wells 10 years, 5 months ago

In case the game wasn't over at the half... is now. So, where is the next win coming from?

FlaHawk 10 years, 5 months ago

KU folding like a cheap deck of cards. This is going to get ugly quickly!

TwistedFish31 10 years, 5 months ago

I hope our offense wakes up next week because we are going to need to put about 70 on the board to hang with Texas Tech the way our D is playing.

cwag 10 years, 5 months ago

As if all th Oz jokes weren't bad enough, now we have munchkin DBs.

Christopher Hauser 10 years, 5 months ago

My hangup is that we are not a good football team. We do not compete and we do not execute. I am finding it hard to find another win on the remainder of our schedule. I dont think we will get it "figured out" this season. If we dont have it figured out now we will never get it figured out.

escaped_labrat 10 years, 5 months ago

"Is your football team not meeting your expectations.....have you lost some tight you need some redemption.....well LOOK NO FURTHER!!! We have just what you need. Come play KU and we'll make your struggling offense look like a national juggernaut!! Defensive woes? We've go your answer for that too. When you buy a really good offensive showing, we'll make your defense look good....for free!! How much do you ask is this deal that's too good to be true? Just $19.95 plus tax, shipping and handling" lol...ok, just trying to keep a little bit of my sense of humor so I don't feel like total roadkill for a second week in a row :-)

escaped_labrat 10 years, 5 months ago

On the bright side, at least we get NU at Memorial :-)

cwag 10 years, 5 months ago

Kyle Pick loses yardage twice - I guess Bobby Douglass can rest easy.

rastameta 10 years, 5 months ago

KGphoto, you are right on about Reesing. I have had the same conversations with some fellow alumni that his stats are inflated and he has hurt us as much as he has helped us.

He holds it too long sometimes, his passes are off the mark and weak and he will get happy feet and run directly into the rush when the pocket was fine.

rastameta 10 years, 5 months ago

The scary thing is that it is looking like K-State may take the North.

Dale Kroening 10 years, 5 months ago

Crap why not put Meier at QB and see if he can do something ? This sucks !!!!!!!!

Christopher Hauser 10 years, 5 months ago

So what I am trying to figure out is are we just not very talented or are our heads not in it, or both?

cwag 10 years, 5 months ago

I better not hear a word about fans leaving early, when the offense never showed up.

FlaHawk 10 years, 5 months ago

This is the first time I have ever seen Todd Reesing be a total liability for KU. He is so out-of-synch. Why don't they roll Reesing out rather than try and stay in pocket where his lack of size and limited mobilty condems him to a blocked pass or a sack?

rastameta 10 years, 5 months ago

We have enough talent to compete. We aren't as deep as a OU or Texas, but we should be able to compete better than we do. In my opinion, this is a coaching issue. We don't ever seem to be ready to play and some of the game time coaching decisions on both sides of the ball as well as game management are perplexing to say the least.

Perkins needs to put his foot down and demand more accountability from the coaching staff.

Dale Kroening 10 years, 5 months ago

C'MON Hawks we need a TD here !!!!!!!!!!!!!

KGphoto 10 years, 5 months ago

Reesing's pro career just died.

And the Reesing statue that would've certainly been placed somewhere around the new facility is in jeapordy. He looks pedestrian. Nay, weak,

Is he thinking about stats? Is he thinking about stocks?

Whatever, it's not a one-game thing. He hasn't looked right all year. Too bad.

Kale and Co., come on down.

rastameta 10 years, 5 months ago

FlaHawk, go back an watch all of the games this year. Reesing has been a little off almost all of them. He has been inaccurate, made bad decisions, held onto the ball too long, and ran directly into rush in every game.

rastameta 10 years, 5 months ago

It appears like they gave up already. Again, I fault the coaching staff.

FlaHawk 10 years, 5 months ago

Mangino did not seem to have KU ready to play today. Good effort by defense in 1st half. KU offense looked dead against CU last week, but they were DOA today! One of KU's most lackluster game even worse than CU as they never were in game.

Dale Kroening 10 years, 5 months ago

Play calling has been horrid and I think Reesings been drinking his own kool-aid. We're done.

rastameta 10 years, 5 months ago

We might not win another game this season...that is no joke either.

KGphoto 10 years, 5 months ago

Honestly rasta, it's the carousel that has killed Mangino. How can you expect to compete when nobody is comfortable with their position?

Mangino sold out for 2010, and I can't blame him.

Unfortunately, Reesing also crapped the bed at the same time. Where is his energy? Leadership? He looks F'n lost!!

Too bad Mangino. Looks like you're a victim of your own success. The facility. The fluff. You lost the edge.

Clarence Haynes 10 years, 5 months ago

These guys were no where near being prepared for this game. Their minds are somewhere else.

Christopher Hauser 10 years, 5 months ago

another embarrassment on ABC. Look at all of the injuries that OU has. There o-line is limping around the field and they are still kicking our a@#.

KGphoto 10 years, 5 months ago

Nice call Keegan.

Your football acumen is even further verified.

Justin Diederich 10 years, 5 months ago

KU defense is flat pooped. They have been on the field the entire game. At least this was a team effort the whole team has sucked.

Yakihawk 10 years, 5 months ago

My 'Kansas Football' t-shirt just got demoted to paint rag.

jmason 10 years, 5 months ago

I have been a KU football fan longer than most of you have been alive and have seen many a bad year. We owe Coach Mangino and Todd Reesing some respect in the fact that we have seen the best run of KU football that most of us have ever seen. In saying that, this team just doesn't have it. I do not think that this team will win another game this year but will be supporting them as always!!

Clarence Haynes 10 years, 5 months ago

Commentator just said it Bob Stoops brought his team in ready. Effectively Mangino did not.

FlaHawk 10 years, 5 months ago

KU fans are wimps. Did you see thaat probably not 10,000 were left by 10 minutes to go in 4th Qtr. KU really sucked but were is the support!

ajckujhawk 10 years, 5 months ago

Horrid play calling. 3rd and 10 and we run/throw an 8 yd route. 3rd and 14 and we throw/run an 8 yd route. OU offense went to the right and picked on Brashears (sp?) all day, yet we do not make an adjustment until way late. Little if any pressure on Jones. Nothing about this game looked good. Reesing looked as if he were in a fog and completely lost. We looked like total pretenders and NOT contenders today. These are the games that we lose recruits on. These are the games that show, painfully so, why we do not get better media coverage. Ever wonder why when you are watching another game and they breakaway for updates and highlites that you rarely if ever see KU??? Well this is why. Warriner and the analysis paralysis on the O play calling is ridiculous. Hurry up offense??? HAHA!! Give me a break. When we are looking back at the line of scrimmage 3 times for ONE play, that does not categorize hurry up. Notice how OU would frequently get to the ball and go right away, AND HAVE SUCCESS!?!?!?!? would think we could do the same....but OH NO....we have to sit and think and rethink and rethink plays over and over. Call the play and GO WITH IT!!!! And the D? Come on Bowen. Get it together! It is not personnell. It is COACHING! Shuffling players here and there is not the solution. Better coaching is the solution. We have the talent, but for whatever reason Bowen can't get in the right sets and make the right calls. I am beyond frustrated with this team and the coaching. I really feel sorry for these kids. Seems like alot of them play their hearts out, but when you have coaches with their heads up their a$$es it sure does make it tough. O Play calling today = FAIL! D play calling today, 2nd half = FAIL. Clock management = FAIL. I could go on and on but my fingers and my brain hurt from this. Congrats to Stoops and OU on a well prepared and played game. KU coaches....WAKE UP! Lastly, Congrats to Brandstetter...nice FGs when called on.

100 10 years, 5 months ago

Love what the defense is doing.

Offense went up against the best D in the country and scored as many points against OU as UT did. Yes we looked tired, but for 3 INT's, our offense wasn't all that bad. Without those INT's, it's a 3 point game either way.

What I would like to see on offense is letting Todd (like he did last 2 years) take the snap a couple yards deeper. Give him his vision back.

Also pockets are great when you have a 6'5" passer & line. Our young line is getting better but success has always come from Todd when he can run out of the pocket. For a guy with his height & athleticism, it just buys so much more time & opens the field and angles, and running possibilities up.

We have a creator -- let's let him create. No more being stuck in a pocket against an OU type huge team. It just doesn't work.

Great running game today at times!

We'll be back.

Rock Chalk

Ryan Mullen 10 years, 5 months ago

News flash, We are still it for the North. We all knew that we were going to lose this game. Nebraska lost today, and all the rest of the teams in the North are just as bad as we are. We are still in this. We can even beat Texas if we go to the big 12 game.

10 years, 5 months ago

100 and jayhawkinmullen~

While it is difficult to disagree with the posters before you regarding our lackluster play today, I love your positive attitude. Is it too early to say:

Just beat Texas Tech!

gamblinggringo 10 years, 5 months ago

Bad news: An embarrassing loss today.

Good news: When your worst player is Todd Reesing, you know there is a lot better things in store this year.

Reesing will get it figured out and take out Tech.

jayhawkintx73 10 years, 5 months ago

Pathetic. Now I will say we have no chance in winning the North. We're done.

jayhawkboogeyman 10 years, 5 months ago

After this game, I am done even thinking about football and completely focused on school and basketball. But my list of complaints: 1. Play-calling was terrible. The pick 6 has been available all year because we run that useless WR screen at least 5 times every single game. Nothing better than a play that averages a 2 yard loss to get our offense going. 2. Jake Sharp is not a feature back. The 60 yard screen/shovel exemplifies what he is capable off - gaining a lot of yards in open space on a once-a-game trick play. Do not give it to him up the middle. Useless. A wasted down every time. 3. Todd needs to learn to stand in the pocket and hit his receiver or Meier needs to play QB. For some reason, he can't get the ball to his receiver on the run any more. Either bounces way short or way overthrown. And he is not throwing the ball with zip like years past. He has basically regressed in every way this season. 4. Meier is not going to break a long run of a screen. And it just sets up an INT. Useless play. 5. Was Mangino even trying to win this game? Why in the hell would you put Cale Pick in, in a huge spread formation, to try running the ball straight up the middle? Was coach just trying to help his old boss ease a bad year or what? 6. Defense played mostly well enough to win..but same old crap as always. 1st down, good D stop. 2nd down, good D stop. 3rd down, drop the coverage, watch the man go to the first down marker and catch the ball, then make a tackle, which 25% of the time is broken for a huge gain. We have got to get more aggressive on D. 7. If it is 3rd and 8 and we already decided not to go on 4th down this game like all year long because, you know, we were so effective today we didn't need to take a risk, don't run a damn 3, 4, 5 yard play. It is asinine. 8. Mangino is not the coach we claim he is. He has been slightly above average with one miracle season. His defenses don't hit hard or take pride in making hits, the offense doesn't show up for the first half all season, and the coaching staff is scrambling to make adjustments in the middle of the season that should have been apparent in the several months of workouts before the season. If we make a bowl, it will be a miracle, and I won't bother to watch, because really, what good is making another Insight Bowl or Hyundai Bowl or some useless waste of time? This team had potential to be excellent, and never developed.

whitechocolate 10 years, 5 months ago

yeah, that's the spirit.

mighty Nebraska loses to Iowa State, Mizzou is winless in conference play, and 2 of Kansas State's 5 wins are over I-AA teams.

We still have a great chance of winning the North. This game was bad, but we are far from out of the North hunt.

jayhawkboogeyman 10 years, 5 months ago

I am going to suggest something that no one will want to hear or bring up, but I am getting to the point where I am openly wondering if Mangino is still the man for the job. 1. He can't get a consistent defense on the field. It is unacceptable for any supposedly "elite" football program to be overhauling the defense after half a season two straight years. What is he doing in the off-season workouts? 2. He team's do not have a winning attitude. They always lack the intensity needed to excel at football. Watch how OU's defense puts a hard hit on every time, and at least 7 defenders are at the tackle hitting somebody every play. Then watch how we politely bump a guy out of bounds. We need a killer instinct, and his teams don't have it. 3. What does it take to get the offense up for a game? They have come out pathetic every game this year, and, except the Insight Bowl, not shown up for the beginning of games last year either. I like that his teams don't give up, but what is wrong with coming out and playing like you would kill to win from start to finish? I think he focuses so much on respect and discipline that his teams don't have a football instinct to hurt people and dominate. And for the defensive problems alone, something needs to change in the coaching staff. I realize we still have a winning record, but 2 wins were against hopeless teams, one was a solid road win over a bad team, a game where again our offense failed to show up early, and 2 wins against bad teams that came down to the last 2 minutes of the game. Against teams we should have beaten handily. Until this team plays like it wants to send people home hurt and broken, they are not going to get to the top. Especially when our divine QB is playing absolutely terrible football, as he did the last two weeks.

Ryan Mullen 10 years, 5 months ago

Everyone chill we are still seriously in this thing we can beat tech, Mizzou, and nebraska to stay alive and even make it to a bcs don't give up everyone continue to root for out team they are great and we don't know if we will ever see this again.

55jayhawk 10 years, 5 months ago

We are definately not out of the the running, but the Coach's have to get their act together. I don't know what happened the past two weeks but our guys were not prepared or psyched up to play the game they are capable of. Can't figure out why Todd is not reacting the same as in the past, but in his defense, he has had to scramble for his life unlike our competition the past couple of weeks. Texas Jayhawk

whitechocolate 10 years, 5 months ago

boogey...we lose two games and you think the man who owns more wins than any other coach in our program's history should be let go?

Jeez, when did we become Notre Dame?

Bad game. Bad plays. Bad Reesing. But don't start yelling like some over-privileged fan.

Ryan Mullen 10 years, 5 months ago

Is everyone forgetting that this is Oklahoma they have a defense they were supposed to be in it for the BCS national title this year we lost to a good team.

rcjh22 10 years, 5 months ago

November 3rd will solve everyones problems.

Yakihawk 10 years, 5 months ago

In all of KU football's defense, there are more than a few storied programs struggling these days, the irritating part is that the flubs on national tv hurt us in the recruiting more than a program that is established. It's not that we lose, but we get drilled. How would you like to be Todd Reesing going into a game where you know that the only chance for a W is if you have a near perfect game just to get a chance at a win? Our defense is to blame, the soft coverage and routine 9 - 22 yard plays by the opposing O put a mountain of pressure on our offense. Our inept first half offense is because they know if they don't score in bunches, the game is over (too much pressure).

Have you ever noticed that great teams have a great D-coordinator?

bewareofthephog 10 years, 5 months ago

wow just an absolute pathetic performance by our offense today. I'm glad I saw Todd Reesing at the Hawk last night completely hammered before our biggest home game of the season

KSseahawk 10 years, 5 months ago

What happened to the Swagger Lew was talking about after the Orange Bowl victory? There's no swagger... Mangino and his staff are completely out of touch with how to win a football game. The last four games have been the same...start slow then get the picture (not today) when it's too late. They do not adjust on O on D or on ST. I'm sick of seeing the option and the bubble screens that nearly get picked off everytime. Frankly, it may be Mangino's offensive philosophy that realy bugs me and perhaps why I've never been a fan. It's absurd they still run-in plays from the sideline (which is sophomoric and arrogant) and they end up outhinking themselves. What happened to huddling up and running a play? The o line is so bad, that all teams have to do is keep Reesing out of rhythm and he'll keep chucking balls all over the place, to the other team and then take off right into the mouth of the D.

The last four games have been an embarassment and ANYONE could have seen this trainwreck coming after the Southern Miss game. These guys are either not confident (it's a freaking carousel on D - why was the frosh on the best WR in the 2nd man-to-man???), over-confident, not paying attention or they've checked out. There's no killer instinct and certainly no swagger.

I wish the football team showed as much heart and fight on the field as they do on campus taking on the basketball team. Apparently Sherron was right, the football team is a one hit wonder.

Michael Bratisax 10 years, 5 months ago

Wow..I no longer need to argue with those who called KU overrated. Obviously, they were. Insight Bowl?

beebe1b 10 years, 5 months ago

Seems my prediction was 6-6; if we wre lucky, 7-5. It is a shame to waste all our terrific Offense to a Defensive Coordinator who learned only from an incompetent Def Coord. If Bowen can't choose the right candidates, why must Mangino make mid-season selections? They should have been taught defense from the start. #20 is a good kid, but they scored on him repeatedly because he is defending a 'territory'.

One of the best moved from Ohio State to be head coach at Cinti. They were ranked #5; today they slaughtered another opponent. If you don't know a good defensive scheme, find someone who does! Special teams aren't doing too well either.

Bowen seems to be a good recruiter, but doesn't know how to use them. Put someone above him till Bowen learns.

Mangino is a great head coach, provided he catches up on Defense!

dirtybirdman 10 years, 5 months ago

We should finish 6-6. Maybe 7-5 if we are lucky. However, that comeback win over ISU is getting bigger and bigger. State is improving almost as much weekly as we are regressing, and there are no sure wins left on our schedule. Our confidence may be shattered in the next couple weeks if we don't find some way to not turnover the ball and find some D!

Ryan Mullen 10 years, 5 months ago


Dude I know you hate the fact that Lew is improving everything about KU and trying to make this the best university in the world. Will you do me a favor and go get your fat ass girlfriend or Mom to stick your head in the toilet and flush a few or "lew" times too cool you off and make sure there is a big terd in there for me too.

BCRavenJHawkfan 10 years, 5 months ago

This is just a reminder of why Kansas plays basketball.

dirtybirdman 10 years, 5 months ago

njjayhawk is correct in the fact that our fans do leave at halftime. We suck when it comes to 2nd half support as there was maybe, and I'm being generous, maybe 10,000 fans left for the 4th quarter. Fat cats and students...Actually, as students we seem to be worse than the alumni and other fans. That sucks! We suck about supporting the team if we are losing. We leave and then look for excuses as to why we left early!

rastameta 10 years, 5 months ago

As fans and alumni we need to stop defending and telling stories about when we were bad, really bad. The fact of the matter is that we are better now and we should expect more. We should expect a program that can compete for Big 12 championships. We shouldn't be so passive about it and just say Coach Mangino is the best ever and Reesing in the best ever. If they are not getting the job done, then they should be held accountable, period!

We have great new facilities, we have an AD who supports football (which hasn't always been the case). There is no excuse for poor coaching, none! A lot of people were questioning Mangino before the Orange Bowl season, then all of a sudden he got a free pass. No more! Lew needs to hold this coaching staff accountable and if they can't get it done, then changes need to be made. Mangino has earned the right to stay on and correct his staff, but if he doesn't get it done in the next two years, we need to think about moving on as we will never reach the next level and there is no reason we should not have the goal of reaching the next level.

kranny 10 years, 5 months ago

We're still in the hunt for the North. The harsh reality is that the Big 12 North is not very good. If Oklahoma was in the North, they'd be kicking everybody's butt. The talent level is just not as good. Who knows, it could be another 2003 season where a 7-5? Kstate team beats OU for the Big 12 championship. I still feel KU will get Kstate, NU, and Missouri, but they'd better find some balls quick. I thought the Defense showed up well today.

Joe Baker 10 years, 5 months ago

And the bleeding continues...but hey we have TT, tiggers, ksu, UT, NU...We should control a few or maybe all of these games left. It's like Spencer Tillman said- KU will bounce back in the North! We play ut in have a chance! UT will have a bad game and maybe it will be against us?

Reesing and Co need to get their heads up, look ahead and put once again another debacle behind them. I still believe they can pull out a really good year from what appears to be dismal.

Beat TT now!


Joe Baker 10 years, 5 months ago

Yes, huge kudos to the KU D...Reesing needs to get back on track. He seemed anxious tonight and overplayed!

kranny 10 years, 5 months ago

Mangino is getting it done. The new facilities are having an effect and Mangino has been just as influential in getting those facilities as Lew. We are starting to get more talented recruits as seen in McDougald, Opurum, and Tharp who are playing now. Mangino has won 3 of 4 bowl games including a BCS bowl and is the winningest coach in KU history. We have a ways to go to compete annually with the big boys but we will eventually if SUPPORT is given by loyal fans and not bandwagon fans who want to jump ship or clean house at the first sign of adversity. We will get a few dramatic wins this year, I'm sure of it.

TexasJayhawk78 10 years, 5 months ago

Great "D". Best ever. Inspite of O. or Reesing.

TexasJayhawk78 10 years, 5 months ago

Mangino..... QUIT kissing OU's butt. where do you work now?

TexasJayhawk78 10 years, 5 months ago

I am tired of MM kissing up to MS every time OU and KU Play. Kick the "FXXXX"out of OU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ryan Mullen 10 years, 5 months ago


Well said could not have said it better myself.

TexasJayhawk78 10 years, 5 months ago

Wake up! jayhawknmullen

Wins. As long as it does not associate with OU staff..... or old KSU staff......

Ryan Mullen 10 years, 5 months ago


That may be the worst conspiracy theory I have ever heard. So Mangino told Ressing to throw all of those interceptions when we were in the red zone?

Justin LoBurgio 10 years, 5 months ago

On another note.....Texas Tech, Missouri and Nebraska all looked like crap today. This season is not over by a long shot. We saw the 2nd best team on our schedule today (Texas being #1). Mangino is not going to let this team hang their head. This team still has the talent and capability to go 8-4. We are still looking at anything from the Holiday to the Alamo to the Insight Bowl.

Scott Smetana 10 years, 5 months ago

Keep your heads up everyone... we owe it to Reesing.
Our defense looked good in the first half.
If they continue to improve a little, I'm thinking Reesing has a big game or 2 left. The big 12 North STINKS... we can do this.

actorman 10 years, 5 months ago

"I am tired of MM kissing up to MS every time OU and KU Play."

MS??? Do you mean Mike Stoops, as in the coach at Arizona? Or could you perhaps be referring to BS, as in BOB Stoops, as in the coach at Oklahoma?

actorman 10 years, 5 months ago

I don't buy the ridiculous conspiracy theory about MM sucking up. On the other hand, I spent $24 to watch this game on PPV. Should I sue KU to get my money back? I figure I should get at least $10 back since the game was over half-way through the third quarter. Now I have to decide if it's worth paying again next week. I'd say the odds are against my choosing to waste another $24.

Jim Pendleton 10 years, 5 months ago

I don't know where to begin with some of you negative people. Question for some of you who think things are so bad right now - Maybe you would like things back the way they were years ago. I have been coming to KU football for a lot of years, many of them bad. I support our team good or bad. I am thrilled that our program has improved so much that we are now on TV practically every week, we are now getting sellouts, and we are getting better recruits also.

I heard boos today. Come on, is that really necessary? Yes we didn't play well, but that doesn't help. It certainly won't help our cause for a recruit watching this game who might be considering KU and someone else. Many of these guys playing won us a BCS game and another bowl game last year. They are struggling right now, but they don't deserve that.

Yes Todd is struggling a bit right now. I put a lot of today on a hangover from last week. I am not going to suggest we would have won today, but I will say that if we didn't have the turnovers last week which gave CU 14 points and we win that game, the mindset is totally different today. Perhaps they all play with a little more confidence.

It is way too early to bail on this team. There are a lot of wierd things happening in this league right now outside of UT, OU, & OSU. ISU wins 9-7 in Lincoln, A&M wins at Tech, after Tech beats KSU by 50+, and KSU does the same to A&M. Tigggers 0-3. Anything is possible from this point forward.

I actually like what I have seen from the defense the past two weeks. Still some issues, but much better play. If they can continue to improve, and we can get the offense back on track, then anything is possible. Short of UT, there isn't a defense on our remaining schedule that scares me.

Back to the fan support. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, good or bad play, but suddenly everyone thinks we should be winning every game. Despite our successes the past couple years, this is still a building process. We are trying to get to that level each year that the good programs have been at. Part of the process is being there win or lose, backing your team. We need to learn to win this kind of game

35-6, five minutes to go - ok I get it, many will leave. But to see people on both sides get up and leave after OU scores the first time they had the ball in the 3rd and it's only 21-6, come on, what kind of fan are you? That kind of thing will not help us, not just in the current game, but also in recruiting.

Lastly, Senior Day is three weeks away. This senior class deserves everyone's respect, and everyone's full support at that game against NU. Will still be a big game I believe. We can also use support in Manhattan in two weeks also. It may not be a big deal to many to win the North, as it is assumed you get drilled by UT again. Winning the North is another rung up the ladder, which will continue to help build for the future. Rock Chalk!!!

rastameta 10 years, 5 months ago

jayhawkjim80, it this type of attitude about KU football that needs to change before we can ever be a top program.

I played at KU and know how far we have come, but that doesn't mean we should just take it lying down because it is better then it was in years past.

We should hold the program and coaches accountable and demand they improve or else they need to go and we get someone better. We have better facilities now, we can get some good coaches to come here if our current coaches are not getting the job done.

This crap about I remember when we didn't win 7 games a season is bunch of crap and it is that mediocre attitude that will keep us down. The fans and alumni need to start getting upset if the team under performs. This is what happens at all top schools because they take football seriously.

If our basketball team underachieved for a couple of years in a row and did not make the tournament, I am sure everyone would be in an uproar. Well, we should feel the same way about football. The orange bowl season should have proved one thing, that we are capable of having a winning team here and she we should demand nothing less.

Also, I am so sick of reading about this crap about we need to support them and be good fans...blah, blah, blah. If you are really a good fan can really do care, then you would not accept ineptness, you would demand the AD and coaches do their jobs and do them well.

Therefore, everyone that is complaining and demanding a better coached team are the true fans to me. These are the fans I wish we would have had we I played instead of the frickin pansies that accept poor coaching because they can remember the bad years.

It is time for KU fans and alumni to get their heads out of their asses and demand some accountability from the coaching staff and athletic department. This is the only way they feel pressured enough to make the coaching changes that are needed to be a top program.

Every top program has fans and alumni that do do you think Prince got fired after two years at K-State? They didn't say give him a chance, he needs a couple of years to recruit. No, they said he is not getting the job done get him out of there. Now look, they are atop the North standings and I would not be surprised one bit if they won the North because Snyder is one hell of a coach.

It is time to stand up and demand a KU football program. We have the facilities to attract top coaches and athletes now so there is no excuse for bad coaching, PERIOD!!!

Brian Skelly 10 years, 5 months ago

I said before the season started that if we didnt start 6-0 prior to today's game against OU we were in trouble... and we are.

Why? Because now were counting/assuming a/some "W"s in some form from the KSU-Neb-Mizzou trio. While winning 1 or 2 of these games seems possible (the optimist would say probably), the reality is after last weeks game against a mediocre at best CU team and today's predicted whooping we took from OU I dont know how anyone here can be honest about the situation and assume we'd win ANY of those 3 games. It doesnt mean we wont. I still think someway, somehow we'll pick one off, but I certainly wouldnt bet the house on it.

We have a 1000% chance of losing to Texas. I think we've got a 99% chance of losing to Texas Tech. Have we beat those guys since the Big 12 was formed? I dont think we have. When you apply no pressure on the QB from your front 4 and you dont blitz, teams like Tech and Mr. McCoy from Austin are going to tear us up. I think we'll get smoked worse than we did today next week in Lubbock. Im not looking forward to it.

So that leaves us with KSU, Mizzou, Nebraska. While I do believe the KSU is doing it with smoke and mirrors right now, you cant tell me after losing 4 of the last 5 to us they arent going to be jacked beyond belief in 2 weeks up at the Bill. Man I hope we get some fans up there.

Mizzou has come back to reality primarily because, much like KU they played a soft non-conference schedule, and then open up with a tougher 1st half of the Big 12 schedule. Almost the opposite of us to be honest. I think dismissing Mizzou outta hand is a mistake. Especially since the next 4 games before us are CU, Baylor, KSU, ISU. If Gabbert is healthy (he hasnt been) them winning 5 straight to end the season isnt out of the realm of possibility.

Nebraska to me seems to be the most logical option for our next (and possibly last) "W". Their most impressive "W" was Mizzou in the monsoon a few weeks ago. Problem again is however they have OU left then the dregs of the North (including us). Having them at home is HUGE now.

Whom(s)ever posted it previously was dead on... we've played like hell for 4 straight weeks and should feel lucky to be 2-2 after the way we played. Blowing the ISU and Southern Miss games were there for the taking. The OU loss was predictable, but the CU game is going to haunt us. It just is.

Im not one of these "we gotta win the North and go 10-2" guys either... my wants are modest at this juncture, and have been even after the amazing Orange Bowl run (and before, really). Having the football team get to bowl games the last several years makes me think anything less than that is a huge disappointment, even if its a more minor bowl. Problem is, thats not a sure thing now either. Especially if the 6-6 Big 12 teams start piling up (which it appears that we maybe heading that way).

Very frustrating indeed.

rastameta 10 years, 5 months ago

My AD was Bob Frederick and he didn't believe in spending money football and he didn't really think KU could ever be a big football school, so he was happy with the mediocre performance of Mason's staff. They were about .500 team under Mason with a couple of bowl victories. Since that was improvement over the 80's, it was acceptable to him and the alumni. Don't even get me started on Terry Allen and that debacle. I will give Al Bohl credit in the fact that he knew we needed a better football program and fired Allen.

I think Mangino has done some really good things, Bowen too, and Reesing too for that matter. However, that doesn't mean they get a free pass for life.

I don't believe in blaming the players though. It is all about the coaches and the way they run the program, etc.

In case people don't remember, we used have a pretty good defense and a crapy offense and Mangino was constantly changing players on offense durning the season trying to get production. He would move DB to WR and would use 4 or 5 QB's in a season. He would yank the QB in a game if they made any mistake causing them to play tight and scared. Nick Q. wasn't the best O-coordinator either.

Now, the same is happening with the defense.

There is a pattern here and Mangino needs to be held accountable for the way he develops players, hire coaches, and calls games (both plays and management).

Let's stop being football illiterate and say it is because of talent or that it takes times, etc. These are all f*$ing EXCUSES!! I gave them time to develop players, to recruit better players, and to build better facilities. There is always another excuse why it isn't happening this year. The excuses need to stop and either results or accountability need to happen.

If our fans and alumni would ever do this along with Lew, we would be very scary in the Big 12 because we have the campus, we have the facilities and we have the potential to have good fans. We just need good coaches. They really do make a big difference.

strongbadia 10 years, 5 months ago

I really, really hope Reesing wasn't wasted at the Hawk on Friday night.

rastameta 10 years, 5 months ago

However, K-State is getting better each week, I have watched the last two games for them and they are drastically improved from the beginning of the year. Snyder can coach. What is most impressive about them is how their defense just keeps getting better and better. Their offense isn't to blow anyone away this year, but their defense might be pretty tough by the time we face them. If our offense plays like it did today or in the first half against CU, they will beat us without a doubt.

rastameta 10 years, 5 months ago


I am not sure how Mangino does it, but in the past, the entire team would stay at the Holiday Inn the night before the game so the coaches could keep an eye on them and have them keep a curfew. I imagine it is still that way.

easyfive 10 years, 5 months ago

Todd R. use to fun to watch! Before Mangino made him to be a pocket passer.
That is like putting a square peg in around hole. Is Mark gone Mad? Mark says, "Todd your doing to much you quit running around and just take the sack..." Mark has shackled our best QB ever, to the pocket and has taken Todd's freedom to play his style of ball. That is why Sparky has no spark or, run like a greesed pig anymore. Why did he do that???

Brian Skelly 10 years, 5 months ago

It is a bit ironic as rastameta pointed out...

... our Offense used to be flat out offensive and putrid. Out Defense used to be at worst average and at times early in Mangino's tenure it was excellent. Wild how times have changed.

Look... there is no question that the Football Program is better stronger now than it has been in most of our lifetimes. I DONT view fans being more critical as a problem... remember, most of the time previously we just didnt care. Glen Mason did have some good years as well, but I think Mangino has it to a place where it maybe more sustainable. Or so we hope. Interest and revenues are at an all time high now for football.

Expectations SHOULD be higher after the Orange Bowl. Thats not to say I think we as fans should think going to a BCS bowl is going to happen... it may not happen again. At this point going to a bowl game however is and should be expected. Especially when you schedule the cupcakes that Mangino likes to snack on prior to Big 12 play.

We HAVE to beat the teams we should however in Big 12 play, and losing that CU game I fear is going to be our downfall. We shouldnt be shocked if we only win one more game though, which in my mind stinks. While its only a one game differential, with our 'gimmie' non-conference schedule 6-6 seems a world away from 7-5 to me. And because if that easy non-conference schedule, if the Big 12 gets backlogged with 6-6 teams and to few bowl bids we shouldnt assume we'd get one of them either.

TexasJayhawk78 10 years, 5 months ago

Okay. I am sorry for being so negative about the game and showing my backside attitude. I was mad and I have a long dislike for OU. I take back everything except I still think the D was great!

Please excuse my outbursts.

I do feel we are still in this race as long as we put it all together and maybe let Todd get loose from that pocket. How in the world can he see over the combination of our O line and their D line?

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