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Tuesday, October 20, 2009

Gary Bedore’s KU basketball notebook

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Little planning to compete for playing time

Mario Little missed most of last season with injuries. This season, he's looking to remain healthy and compete for minutes on the Jayhawks squad.

Miles returning to Greece

Aaron Miles will play pro basketball in Greece once again this season.

The 26-year-old former Kansas University point guard, who competed for Panionios on Telecoms Athens in 2008-09, has signed a one-year deal with Aris BSA — a franchise located in Thessaloniki.

Terms were not disclosed.

“Aaron is thrilled at the opportunity. He’s on one of the top three teams in Greece,” said Chris Emens, senior director of Octagon Basketball, an agency that represents the 6-foot-1 Miles.

“Aaron had a great experience in Greece last year (emerging as a Greek League all-star). We’re very pleased at the offer he received.”

Miles was cut by the NBA’s Atlanta Hawks last week after scoring seven points in his only preseason game.

“In talking to the Hawks ... they stated how much better Aaron has gotten in a year,” Emens said, noting Miles hasn’t given up his dream of returning to the NBA.

He played in 19 games for the Golden State Warriors in 2005-06.

“He still needs things to line up for him. A lot depends on economic issues, how many spots will teams keep (on rosters) in the future?” Emens added.

He noted that some teams may keep just 13 or 14 players instead of the maximum allotment of 15.

The Jayhawks’ all-time assist leader averaged 11.3 points off 45.4 percent shooting with 3.5 assists in 27 games in the Greek League last season.

He averaged 10.2 points off 42.7 percent shooting, and 3.3 assists in 10 games in the Euroleague.

Collins No. 2

Gary Parrish of cbssportsline.com, who was in town for last Friday’s Late Night in the Phog, on Monday released his rankings of top point guards in the country.

He listed Kentucky freshman John Wall No. 1; KU senior Sherron Collins No. 2.

“Let the record show that Sherron Collins does not like my opinion,” Parrish wrote.

“It bothers me a little bit,” Collins told the writer, “I think I’ve established myself, and he’s coming out of high school with a lot of hype. But I’m the old guy, and I ain’t gonna let no young boy get the best of me.”

Parrish suggested a KU-Kentucky national title game might yet happen.

“It would be a good matchup: Kansas vs. Kentucky,” Collins said. “I’d like to play him.”

Goodman’s take

Foxsports.com’s Jeff Goodman also attended Late Night in the Phog. He had this to say on his Web site blog:

“One thing that struck me watching Kansas is how the gap from the Jayhawks — the consensus, maybe even unanimous top team in the country — to the rest of the legitimate national title contenders isn’t much at all. Sure, the Jayhawks have Collins and Cole Aldrich — two legitimate Player of the Year candidates. They also have terrific depth.

“But the key is freshman Xavier Henry, who will start at small forward.

“Henry admitted to a case of nerves last night, but the 6-foot-6 McDonald’s All-American hardly had the appearance of a one-and-done player.

He looked ordinary.

And if he’s ordinary, the Jayhawks probably won't be special,” Goodman wrote.

Henry scored six points off 1-of-4 shooting with three steals in the 20-minute scrimmage, which coach Bill Self annually says is meaningless. He hit one of three from three.

Robinson update

Former Kansas University point guard Russell Robinson remains on the roster of the Cleveland Cavaliers with one week remaining in training camp.

Robinson — he played for Reno (Nev.) in the NBA Developmental League last year — scored nine points off 3-of-11 shooting and dished eight assists against five turnovers in Saturday’s 93-82 loss to Dallas. He started and played 41 minutes in the contest, hitting one of five three-point tries.

Former KU power forward Darnell Jackson scored 10 points and grabbed eight boards while also starting and playing 34 minutes for the Cavs.

Second-year pro Jackson has been slowed by the flu.

The team is awaiting test results on Jackson, LeBron James and Coby Karl, to see if they had the H1N1 strain.

Comments

Ryan Mullen 10 years, 3 months ago

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suttonku 10 years, 3 months ago

Hahahahahhahaha I think it's funny that writers think that KU isn't anything special this year for a number one team. I watched that scrimmage and thought that the Morris twins were fantastic and that Thomas Robinson was a beast. The Jayhawks will be stout this season and whoever thinks that UK is better than KU better check to see if they have a brain. UK has a ton of unproven freshman and all freshman hit the wall at some point. KU can handle Xavier and Robinson hitting the wall but UK cannot handle their key freshman hitting the wall.

And boy you gotta love the response from Collins when he learned of Parish's rankings. I think Collins is hungry and I think Collins would eat Wall's lunch. I hope we play UK in the championship because I like our chances.

dustfan 10 years, 3 months ago

Wow, basing your opinion of a player on one performance in a meaningless team scrimmage. Now that is just shoddy reporting. All of the people that have been following him over the last couple of years find him ordinary enough to be a consensus top 10 recruit. Must be a KU hater.

Ron_Kellogg 10 years, 3 months ago

Folk need to stop calling Robinson a "beast"

Trey Hohman 10 years, 3 months ago

After the initial crazed-gerbil-in-the-brain phase, as long as Goodman stays on the pills, we all hope he returns to his normal psycho-repressed cerebral state.

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 3 months ago

That comment from Jeff Goodman is like:

Judging your college experience by the first day of your freshman year.

Basing your opinion of a new job by the first day.

Thinking your marriage will be just like the first night of your honeymoon.

The first time you try to shoot pool.

Watching porn and thinking it'll get better the longer you watch (well, never mind this one!)

Voting for a new President and thinking things will get better eventually (maybe I should quit befor I offend somebody)

FSUJHAWK 10 years, 3 months ago

No respect for the Jawhawks. HCBS and our players will use this as motivation. This guy just gave our team extra incentive to dominate. Thanks Goodman.

studio 10 years, 3 months ago

Although you gotta love the attitude," I ain’t gonna let no young boy" sounds thuggishly less than even a freshman for a representative of a D1university. As the "leader" of the Jayhawks this year, I would suggest the coaching staff offer some assistance, as a publicist might, to polish Mr. Collins' grammer and "stage presence" in making superiority claims more fitting of a senior before the microphones display KU as any less of an acedemic institution. I know I'm old fashioned but is it just me or is there a pattern developing here? I like to think KU would want to be portrayed as a class act worthy of being sports champions and collegiate athletic role models. Rock Chalk with smart talk Jayhawk!

Tim Bingaman 10 years, 3 months ago

Nice Money & Grecian Honeys!!! Makes being a bench warmer in a terrible city like Atlanta sound like hell! Have fun Aaron! You're livin' the dream already!

Great news on Russell!!! Amazing Jayhawk, without whom we wouldn't have won it in '08!!! (nice use of "whom", right stu, stu, studio? If you grew up named Sherron, you might have to talk tough too. I'll take that over my 42 year old-white-PC-tech who says "peeps" all the time... )

KU NATIONAL CHAMPIONS 2010!!!!!!!

KANSTUCKY 10 years, 3 months ago

Jeff Goodman is a two faced bandwagon jumping dingleberry that likes to stir up anything and anybody. Consider yourself baited, hook, line and sinker. Whitlock is his mentor. It's always fun to prove them wrong. Teamwork wins championships, not OAD's.

CRIMSONnBLUE 10 years, 3 months ago

"The reason Carolina is so optimistic about challenging for the title is that there is no one dominant team -- no Carolina -- going into this year. Kansas, Texas and Michigan State are all formidable, but none strikes that kind of fear into an opposing team."

Really? Andy Katz is dumb. I haven't heard one analyst say that Kansas isn't the clear favorite to win another title this year. I guarantee a few weeks into the season Katz will be all over KU saying that no one can stop them. Does he really think that UNC is going to be as good as KU this year? What a joke.

Kyle Neuer 10 years, 3 months ago

Mr. Goodman's reporting reflects what I've come to expect from Faux.

Eliott Reeder 10 years, 3 months ago

"But I’m the old guy, and I ain’t gonna let no young boy get the best of me.”

Yeah! Like that Johnny Flynn kid from Syracuse! Remember how I showed... oh wait, he DID get the best of me.

Sorry, but I felt the need to call Sherron out here. I hope he doesn't go into the N.C. game thinking its a showdown between himself and Wall. That would be disastrous. He is at his best when playing the type of team ball he did as a sophomore. Granted, later last year he went one-on-one with another young guy (Willie Warren) and came out on top, trading ridiculous threes from six feet behind the line, but we don't want to see him do that in Indy. Unless of course he makes them all...

KUFan90 10 years, 3 months ago

This really is ridiculous. A high school freshman that has never played a second of college ball is deemed to be better than a senior leader with a National Championship ring on his finger. One of the top recruits in the country is labeled "ordinary" after watching a single scrimmage.

These assessments don't even pass the red faced test. I'm embarassed for Parrish and Goodman.

Let's hope the Jayhawks have these quotes up in big bold print in the locker room all year.

PJ Karasek 10 years, 3 months ago

just judging by how sherron took on c.j. "better than sherron and tyshawn" henry at late night, i'd say he's ready to shut down and shut up any young pg this year. sherron looked like mid-season form at the first scrimmage.

Joe Baker 10 years, 3 months ago

He listed Kentucky freshman John Wall No. 1; KU senior Sherron Collins No. 2.

Are you freakin' kidding me! You would take a green frosh, never played NCAA, never played March Madness, Never won a NC, OMG!! What's this guy smokin?

This is the most ridiculous comment in the history of college b-ball!! LOL LOL LOL

Joel Hood 10 years, 3 months ago

This preseason “analysis” seriously bothers some of you?

A reporter calls Xavier “ordinary” during the Late Night scrimmage. Anyone remember who had the best game in the Late Night scrimmage of 2003? Omar Wilkes. I guess a freshman’s first Late Night scrimmage is always the best predictor of future success.

John Wall the best guard in the nation??? Ummmm… shouldn’t he actually complete at least one college game (or practice) before getting his crown? Sorry, the freshman wall hits every kid who plays D1. Actually, I think all the preseason hype for KY is great. New coach, new kids, fans expect NC first year - I think we all should keep raising the expecations for KY.

I’ll put my money on Sherron in April. The only wager I’d take related to KY would be how long it will take until the first major NCAA investigation erupts in Lexington.

quigley 10 years, 3 months ago

“It bothers me a little bit,” Collins told the writer, “I think I’ve established myself, and he’s coming out of high school with a lot of hype. But I’m the old guy, and I ain’t gonna let no young boy get the best of me.”

LOVE IT!!!

That writer could not have helped us out any more if he tried. A PO'd Sherron means trouble for every other team in the country.

studio 10 years, 3 months ago

The Henrys both looked like they made a concious decision not to "take over" the scrimmage Friday night. They are smart enough to know when to show their hand. Sherron demonstrated his strength and quickness of wit and moves to weave around his teammates like a baracuda. Thanks in part to Gary Parrish, Collins will dominate this year as a player, leader, motivator, and as the all time winningest (is that a word TtJ?) Jayhawk. Can't wait to see what HCBS does to establish this team as a dominating defensive/rebounding powerhouse of historical significance to complete the package.

jaybate 10 years, 3 months ago

"Jeff Goodman is a two faced bandwagon jumping dingleberry..."

--KANSTUCKY

Despite the failure to punctuate entirely correctly, this goes into the Posting Hall of Fame!

May I offer these minor edits to dress it up for its formal induction.

"Jeff Goodman is a two-faced, bandwagon-jumping dingleberry..."

Induction with be at a barbecue to be named shortly. It will be a sports coat and slacks affair (no baby blue Sears sports coats allowed). Inductees' acceptance speeches will be limited to 5 minutes. No profanity. A poster of Jeff Goodman will be used as a welcome mat for all to tread on when entering.

Chris Shaw 10 years, 3 months ago

If comments like these from National writers don't make you believe there is a "Bias" amongst these columnists, I don't know what else to say. I think it's funny because when I watched the 4 hours (Recorded obviously) of the ESPNU madness and I got to see glimpses of all the scrimmages, I thought exactly the opposite of Goodman's opinions. I think there are a lot of teams coming in with a similar experience level as the Jayhawks did last year. It took them a while, but by the end of the season the Jayhawks were a pretty good team. When I watched the UNC, Kentucky, and Michigan State scrimmages there was no comparison and it was night and day differenece between the Jayhawks and everybody else. Now, I am not saying the rest of the teams can't close the gap, they most certainly will, but right now those other teams have a lot of work to do in order to "Catch-Up".

Chris Shaw 10 years, 3 months ago

One other note: When I watched CJ, he looked a little out of place. I know "Nerves" can sometimes mess up your "Handles", but CJ didn't look comfortable handling the ball at all. This is funny because when I started watching the scrimmage I thought X was number 13 and it took me a few minutes to realize that number 13 was indeed CJ and not X. I was a little concerned because my initial thought was that X wasn't as good as all the "Hype" had indicated. CJ will find his groove and I realize it was only the first practice, but there is a lot of improvement that will be taking place over the next few months in practice.

jayhawk15 10 years, 3 months ago

Goodman is an idiot, yeah Xavier Henry didn't look amazing in the game but it is a freaking late night scrimmage, plus you could tell his NBA strength and athletic ability. Plus his shoot looked pure, he's going to make a ton of threes he had like 6 in the jordan brand classic. Henry is like a more athletic inexperienced Rush. The thing that really gets me is that Goodman didn't notice the huge improvement by the twins and the really good looking play of Robinson. Last year besides Cole, KU struggled to score from the four spot. Now it seems like the power forward position could be one of our strengths. Plus our depth across the board is better than any team in the country!

OmaHawk88 10 years, 3 months ago

I guess the precedent has been set for giving awards to people based on their potential instead of their body of work. Sherron knows what it takes to win at this level. Don't know how you can say the same for Wall.

VegasJhawk09 10 years, 3 months ago

Thats insanity comparing Senior and battle tested, not to mention NCAA Champ Sherron Collins to Newby Wall. Sure he is talented, thats a given, but he is not even close to Collins' level.

Joe Baker 10 years, 3 months ago

Not to mention EJ...He looked smooth during Late Night. He stepped up and shot that trey on top of the key and looked so natural.

I'd take EJ over Wall any day of the week. Not due to my KU bias, but b/c I think EJ is that good!!

I frankly don't know what the hype is about Wall! He is good, but not any better than any other top player in the nation. I'm glad we didn't get him. I think he'll be a major dud and he will run into his own wall at uk. His pimp of a coach will only bring his rep down!

kubball99 10 years, 3 months ago

I, like many other here have said, find it absurd Parrish would list Wall as the top point guard in the country. It doesn't bother me that Collins isn't the top point guard, but how can anyone state that Wall is the best point guard in the country without every playing a single college game? While I agree Wall is a talented and explosive player, he hasn't played on the college level yet. Playing guards like Collins night-in and night-out isn't like playing Joe Blow from North Central High School. And I think I would speak for most KU fans when I say, hands down, I would rather have Sherron running the show at KU and the ball his hands when it matters. Sorry, Parrish, Wall is going to have to show he has what it takes before I hand over the crown.

Joe Baker 10 years, 3 months ago

Here is a real test question to resolve the writer's insanity. If you had a team going to a national championship game and you had to choose between Wall and SC to run your point, who would you pick?

Would you pick hype over experience? I think not. You would go with a tried and true champion with experience.

It cracks me up these writers make claims and decisions based on hype. But when it really boils down, 100% people would pick SC over Wall any day! You'd be a fool from Kensucky if you picked Wall to run your point over a veteran like SC!!

justanotherfan 10 years, 3 months ago

Everybody,

Calm down. I agree with Goodman's general idea, although not his conclusion. The major difference - i.e., the reason KU will either be the runaway favorite to win the national title, or one of several strong contenders - is Xavier Henry. If Henry is a legitimate one and done - a player that can take over a game in all facets when necessary, carry the team through a lean stretch, etc. - then KU is head and shoulders above every other team in this country, because KU is essentially a college team starting three (maybe four or five, depending on how much the Morris's have improved, and how Tyshawn is) NBA caliber players.

On the other hand, if X is just an above average wing player (someone along the lines of say, Danny Green from UNC last year) then KU is essentially just a deeper, more experienced version of last year's Sweet Sixteen team. Title contender, yes. Runaway favorite, no.

I don't think that can be judged on one practice, especially a twenty minute scrimmage in front of the fans. However, if we have to revisit this conversation in late December because X is more Danny Green than Kevin Durant, then it becomes an issue. Until then, I'm not worried at all.

Tony Bandle 10 years, 3 months ago

Well, I know one thing..John Wall may be the Number One test taker in the history of the NCAA!!! Can anyone on this site substantiate the statements that Wall's ACT scores went from the mid-700's to the 1300's???

Was he sick the first time he took it? Was he confused the first time he took it? Was he out of #2 pencils the first time he took it? Was he actually John Wall the first time he took it?

KU NATION talk to me...if this is true, this is a GIGANTIC Smoking Gun that someone needs to follow up on!!!!!!!!!!!

Tony Bandle 10 years, 3 months ago

PS Actually, he probably was John Wall the first time he took it....was he John Wall the SECOND time he took it???!!!

Derek Conway 10 years, 3 months ago

Oakville,

Very good point but, either he didn't actually recieve those scores or you accidently wrote ACT instead of SAT. I'm guessing, because he is from the east coast, he probably took the SAT.

Furthermore, I think I speak for everyone when i say that the NCAA needs to investigate this and probably everyone else on the UK roster. I mean, who knows when the rowdy italian is coaching there.

Joe Baker 10 years, 3 months ago

justanotherfan (anonymous) says... Everybody,

Calm down.

justanotherfan- Your points are well taken. But it's bias like this that throws KU under the bus every year. I don't think anyone is worried, just sick of the dribble that writers write and they no not what they write. Again, their columns and claims are based on hyped bias. In other words, lets pick a team, hype them and then watch them lose.

Then, when KU proves to be the better team minus the hype, he'll be the first on the bus claiming he "knew it all long." Most of these writers fail to eat their words when they are proven wrong. So, my sweet moment will come when KU does what they are capable of doing with a NC and this "writer" eats his words. I doubt there will be any eating of words when KU is cutting down the nets in 2010!!!

The John Wall thing? No it wasn't the real John Wall. I think it's peculiar that he takes and fails. Then Calasleazy comes along and miraculously Wall passes with a higher number. You forgot a few other reasons: Was he sick the first time he took it? Was he confused the first time he took it? Was he out of #2 pencils the first time he took it? Was he actually John Wall the first time he took it?

Was it b/c Calasleazy paid someone to take the test?

KUbsee69 10 years, 3 months ago

Ron_K:

Why? "Beast" is a term many have applied to many players. "Motor" came right out of HCBS's mouth.

tdub 10 years, 3 months ago

Actually, Coach Cal took the test the first time...

Tony Bandle 10 years, 3 months ago

dmc8142..you are correct, SAT, thx.

Interesting in that I didn't realize it was regional. I'm a St.Louisan and I took both tests {Of course, when I took them, they were on stone tablets and papyrus leaves!!]

Priest Fontaine 10 years, 3 months ago

I agree with Ron_Kellogg that we need to stop referring to Thomas Robinson as having a motor. That word bothers me for some reason. Can't Self or someone please find different words to describe him? If KU played UK, Wall and Collins would most likely not even be matched up against each other. Although I would love to see the two play one on one.

LAJayhawk 10 years, 3 months ago

Gary Parrish and Jeff Goodman mow my lawn.

justanotherfan,

I understand your points, and don't disagree with them. However, I might add that I think a big difference this year is more in other players and not quite as much in Xavier as people seem to think. Clearly, he will have major importance and "being as advertised" will make a large impact on this team. But one would be remiss to not consider the importance of the 4 slot. More production from the 4 will open up both Cole and Sherron as well as increase our rebounding numbers (something we really should dominate in this year). With Robinson coming in and if the Twins have both improved as much as people seem to think they have, this contribution is what makes us a Final Four team regardless of Xavier's contribution. Additionally, if Tyshawn's summer really has increased his skills as much as it seems to have, our perimeter play will be exceptionally better this year as well (especially considering that Sherron would not have to force as much and could let his All-American-level game come to him). Where I do agree with you is that Xavier has the ability to make us run away with it. If he does come in and play like a top 5 recruit, we will be an exceptional basketball team.

And one might also like to point out that some writers want to suggest that we need to "see how Xavier actually plays" before we can determine how good we will be; yet Kentucky is already making the championship game with mostly freshman, and John Wall is currently the consensus player of the year in some "analysts" minds without having played a game. The double standard here is quite remarkable.

Joe Baker 10 years, 3 months ago

tdub (anonymous) says... Actually, Coach Cal took the test the first time...

I don't think a toothless coach of a hillbilly (to barrow from 100) would be able to score that high either!!

LOL

Firebirdguy31 10 years, 3 months ago

Did you hear that Xavier? Goodman said you're ordinary. I don't know about you, but that would piss me off more than Collins getting voted 2nd to a Freshman PG. Especially if you only plan on being in school for one year.... That could be damaging to one's image and draft position. I would prove him wrong as quickly as possible.

jaybate 10 years, 3 months ago

jaybate news service (jns):

Exclusive:

the jaybate interview with Greg Badman:

jaybate: Greg, good morning, I want to thank you for meeting virtually with me in the jns chatroom, you bile-sucking liver parasite.

Greg Badman: Thanks jaybate, glad I could connect with you. You write very strongly and powerfully, and I like that in a citizen journalist...and in a man.

j: I'm not sure how to respond to that, you molm eating Pleicostomas of sports journalism.

GB: Just say yes. lol!

j: Let's get on with the interview, shall we? Are you and Jay Cockwit journalistic lovers? Over 99 percent of KU fans surveyed by Mondo Sports Metrics, Inc. suspect that you are.

GB: No...(pause)...we are not...(longer pause)...but we are into journalistic fetishism. We are part of the Bondage and Bias Journalism scene. I am his journalistic pro bottom.

j: Well, that's certainly disgusting to contemplate. (long pause) But I have an obligation, as a citizen journalist, to ask the tough questions, even when they lead to dark places. So: what is a Journalistic Pro Bottom?

jaybate 10 years, 3 months ago

GB: Jay is my journalistic professional dominant, my journalistic master. I live to please him and get clicks. I am his journalistic professional submissive. Professional subs are called journalistic pro bottoms in the Bondage and Bias (B&B) Journalism sub culture of journalism. When we meet in cheap motels after covering a game, especially when we have just written stories deftly suffused with sharp major media market bias, Jay has me wear an ink-stained crinoline and I have to lick his green visor clean, then I have to remove a pair of old black garters from his big flabby bicepts, before we indulge in kinky, never fulfilled foreplay about each other's writing. Jay has a vast collection of bicept garters worn by itinerant type setters in the Old West. My favorite pair is the set once worn in Manhattan, Kansas by Damon Runyon. I bet you didn't know Jay had a fetish about Damon Runyon garters, did you? (Pause) I'm a sucker for bicept garters, too. They make a professional journalist look strong and powerful...even when he's flabby.

j: TMI, Greg, TMI.

GB: I agreed to this interview to get somethings off my chest, jaybate. Don't try to stop me.

j: Please stop!

GB: Jay likes to role play Othello with me. He plays the Moor and I play Desdemona. (a very long pause in key strokes) I wonder, jaybate, if you know just how low I can go for journalistic love and clicks?

j: Well down into the earth's mantle, I suspect.

GB : Oooh, I like the virtual whip-crack of your come backs. Are you into Bondage and Bias Journalism, too?

j: No!

GB: Liar, liar, keyboard's on fire!

j: Greg, you seem more Iago than Desdemona in this scene you play with Jay Cockwit.

GB: Journalistic reputation is an idle and most false imposition; oft got without merit and lost without conserving.

j: "Deserving," not conserving, if I dare correct a journalistic professional bottom, as you describe yourself.

jaybate 10 years, 3 months ago

GB: Pish, posh, you big, strong, and powerful citizen journalist. Listen well, I want to corrupt you with bias next--bicept flab and all. I live for such, my liege.

j: No chance, Greg. Besides, I'm near my ideal body weight. Hardly flabby. Well, maybe a little flabby. But not enough for your debauched tastes. Thank god for small favors.

GB: Thus do I ever make my fool my worse.

j: Purse! Not worse.

GB: I have already found the path that doth disturb thee.

j: Greg, that's not even in the play.

GB: Demand me nothing: what you know, you don't know:

j: What you know, you "know!" (Pause) So: you have gotten where you are by fooling Jay Cockwit into thinking he is your journalistic pro dom Othello to your journalistic pro bottom Desdemona, when in fact, you are really his Journalistic Iago! Fie, you are a crafty one.

GB: I am not only not Jay Cockwit's Journalistic Iago, I am noone's Journalistic Iago. Though I might also say I am what I deny.

j: Greg, all literary posing aside, my readers, KU basketball fans, the smartest basketball fans in the game, just aren't interested in how you and Jay Cockwit journalistically make the beast with two backs...if you catch my metaphorical drift.

GB: I'm not posing...For shouldn't men be what they seem?

j: Stop mangling the Bard and let's get back to KU basketball.

GB: Oh, you are strong and powerful and I do so want to do a flabby scene with you some time.

j: Are you tempting me into Bondage and Bias Journalism?

GB: Well, it's what I do. It's how I make my living. As you said I said, I am a journalistic pro Iago pretending to be a journalistic pro bottom.

j: Have you no professional journalistic shame?

GB: Knavery's plain face is never seen till diss'd.

j: "Us'd!" Misquoting the greatest writer in the English language is low even for a fever carrying tse tse fly like yourself. I must insist you stop it, or I will be forced to call the Chairman of the English Department post haste and report you! A firm, deconstructivist hand shall surely follow.

jaybate 10 years, 3 months ago

GB: I don't want to stop misquoting anyone. Angering the unsuspecting is part of my pleasure...(pause)...And what's he then that says I sleigh the villain?

j: Play the villain! Er, I don't know. I can't remember every line, you know.

GB: I do. And you citizen journalists, especially from small media markets, you fret too much over falsehoods, bias, disinformation and misquotations.

j: We just want the Father of all basketball programs reported on fairly.

GB: O! beware, my lord, of honesty; It is the green-ey'd monster which doth mock The lie it feeds on.

j: Jealousy! Not honesty! Has anyone ever suggested you have questionable professional ethics and the morality of an advanced syphilitic?

GB: Why no, never. Let's have another question, shall we?

j: You'll say anything for clicks, won't you?

GB: Anything at all, or nothing at all, or both...as the master wishes.

j: You do know KU is the best team by an order of magnitude entering the season, don't you?

GB: Heaven, jaybate, is my judge, not I for love and duty, But seeming so, for my peculiar end: For when my outward action doth demonstrate The native act and figure of my heart In compliment extern, 'tis not long after But I will wear my heart upon my sleeve For Jayhawks to peck at: I am not what I am.

j: Thanks for the interview, Greg. I think KU fans now get your act, you colon-convulsing amoeba.

Note: The above interview (including all parts of it posted) is completely fictitious. Any correlation with real persons is coincidental and unintended. Malice as always is absent.

MemphisMachine 10 years, 3 months ago

go here jayhawks for the truth behind the drama, memphistigers.org on the Dockery-Finch forum titled (Gary Parrish just said)...umm everyone but Memhawk.

Chris Nieto 10 years, 3 months ago

terrence jones is no longer considering the jayhawks

Joel Hood 10 years, 3 months ago

MM –

Get over it. Woulda Shoulda Coulda…..

Of course there were missed calls. KU fans can go back to 1940, 1953, 1957, 1991, & 2003 and point out missed calls that cost us the title game. But, we don’t because we know KU basketball will go on to another great day. But, Memphis is not special and Memphis basketball will crash without Cal.

You and your ilk keep whining about Sherron’s foul. For goodness sake, what about the two technical fouls the ref’s did NOT call on Memphis when they should have?? “WHAT, WHAT, WHAT…?!?!?” you cry. 1 – First half – Dorsey shoves Aldrich and talks smack after he dunked. Cole did nothing & the ref did nothing.
2 – Second half – Slamming the basketball to the ground after a missed free throw. Both were clear technical fouls, but the refs chose to stay calm and talk to the players instead. If those were called, what would the game have looked like then?

I could review the game and nit pick on every little call that didn’t go KU’s way. But, close calls and missed calls are part of the game. Your team of illiterate thugs lost the game. Bad coaching and missed free throws played a huge role. That too is part of the game. The score was tied going into OT. You had your chance. You lost. Now please, quietly fade into obscurity, you’re just embarrassing yourself.

SCHNBALL 10 years, 3 months ago

Kanstucky, just curious, are you from Kentucky? I know most people don't like to judge off of 20 minutes of scrimmage, but I will give my observations since I drove 8 hours to watch:

  1. Twins, very impressive, hope this translates to the season.
  2. Releford, never understood why he did not see more playing time last year.
  3. C. J. Henry looked a step slow and lost
  4. X, will struggle getting to the rack at first, but will make the transition by mid year.
  5. Robinson, very impressive on both ends, plays above the rim and see major minutes.
  6. Collins looked the part of a leader
  7. Cole, no improvement on footwork from last year, remember the chippies he missed in the Michigan State game.
  8. Withey, at least a 2 year project. Can be used as a backup!
  9. Tyshawn, very talented, can he become a closer, still a question.
  10. Little, looks caught between a guard and a foward.
  11. Johnson looked aggressive and like he belonged amongst the talent.

Just some early thoughts, very talented team that I expect to be in the Final Four.

Tony Bandle 10 years, 3 months ago

I think Mr. Jones saw highlights of Mr. Robinson and decided it wasn't his Neighborhood!!

Tony Bandle 10 years, 3 months ago

MemphisMachine, I'm guessing "ummm everyone' means best wishes and God's blessings to all.

Ron_Kellogg 10 years, 3 months ago

Thank you, Heterohilfiger. Then it's settled. Hereinafter, there shall be no further reference (by HCBS or any other party) to Mr. Robinson's so-called "motor," nor, henceforward, shall any party describe Mr. Robinson as a "beast."

Tony Bandle 10 years, 3 months ago

How about engine and monster?????........just kidding.

Actually, if you think about it, just saying "Mr. Robinson" conveys the message quite clearly.

suttonku 10 years, 3 months ago

Robinson is a beast...you like that Kellog?

addlime 10 years, 3 months ago

I just watched the midnight madness special on espnu, but I didn't think there was any comparison between UK and KU. KU pressured the ball a little and blocked shots. They moved the ball on offense and set screens. UK just spread the floor and went one on one for the dunk or shot a very long three every time down. The gap, at least at this early stage, looked pretty clear to my amateur eye. As for X, John Wall, or any of these hyped guys, they gotta go out there and earn it just like everyone else. Nothing in college hoops is predetermined...

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 3 months ago

MemphisMachine-

I clicked on your link. As I read the comments, it became more apparent that Tiger fans concede that the game was lost because of two issues. Free throw bug and Cal not calling a TO at the right time. What did you think could be taken from those comments that would make any difference to any of us KU fans?

Why wouldn't you want me to go to that link? Afraid I might infiltrate like you do on this board? I woudn't lower myself to such depths. I hope you realize that I am not the only KU fan in Memphis. There are probably over a hundred alun. and fans in the area.Quite a few regularly turn out at various bars, etc. when the Jayhawks play on TV.

FairgroveJayhawk 10 years, 3 months ago

Sherron has received his early season fuel. Although unlikely KU will have UK on the other side of the court this year, it would be fun to watch.

I don't understand what's wrong with beast or motor. The comment that takes the cake was Andrea Hudy's comment regarding summer conditioning when she referred to Robinson's physique as that of a horse.

easy Mr. Ed.

KUball14 10 years, 3 months ago

If Kansas were to play Kentucky in the national championship, Sherron Collins would light up John Wall like an effing christmas tree.

kvskubball 10 years, 3 months ago

Fairgrove...

Oh, come-on! Robinson is soooooo obviously a Clydesdale, not just a 'horse'!

yuk yuk!

Kevin John 10 years, 3 months ago

goodman, your a joke!! get a life... prolly never even played division I ball.

bayareajhawk 10 years, 3 months ago

Jaybate, you're nuts!

But in a good way.

These "writers" are jokes. But who cares? The games are decided on the floor, and I know where my money will be when the talking stops and the playing starts.

jaybate 10 years, 3 months ago

jaybate news service (jns):

Extra:

Memphis University announced today that it has begun early planning a 5 year anniversary celebration of the 2008 Memphis Tiger basketball team's 0-40 season. Head Coach Josh Pastner said that all members of the mostly illiterate 2008 team would have to be notified of the celebration by telephone, because most still could not read. The 2008 Memphis team lost the National Championship to Kansas before forfeiting its entire season of wins, because certain unknown Memphis officials reputedly doubted certain Memphis recruits were capable of taking and passing their own SATs. Sources close to the program said that former Coach John Calipari would not be invited, because the expectation was that "by the five year anniversary in 2013, Calipari would likely be leaving UK embroiled in a recruiting scandal." Donations to the "Help the 2008 Memphis Tigers Learn to Read Fund" should be addressed to the Memphis Athletic Department.

FairgroveJayhawk 10 years, 3 months ago

Hey Oakville, I've been trying to find the article that has Wall's SAT scores on line with no luck. Can you help me out? Thanks

kvskubball - you're exceptionally accurate. A Clydesdale for sure.

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 3 months ago

I lean more toward the Lippizaner stallion. A Clydesdale is rarely seen in a role more than pulling a wagon or just posing like a body builder. Lippizaners are extremely skilled and agile with a sense of purpose in their moves. Their whole purpose is to be athletic and graceful. Discipline and determination have become their routine. Sherron might not be basketball's version of a Lippizaner, but he should adopt their character more than a Clydesdale, imho.

Tony Bandle 10 years, 3 months ago

Fairgrove......that's the reason I asked also...I read it on another poster's comments and I can't find a darn thing about it anywhere.

IS ANYBODY GOT THE SCOOP ON WALL'S SAT SCORES???????????

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 3 months ago

CWGOKU -

Condense??

Could you use that in a sentence for Jaybate?

What is the Derivation of that word?

Could you repeat the word?

gojbirds 10 years, 3 months ago

Jaybate, take your meds and settle down a bit. No one cares if you have excellent grammar if the content of your work is pointless. Please post your mock interview or other sophomoric diatribe here...

jaybate 10 years, 3 months ago

CWGOKU,

Thanks so much for recognizing my heart and its rightful locus.

Regarding length, think of me as a guy with long range, mid range and short range word game and I work on all three here.

Sometimes, I try unorthodox things, such as exaggerating national sports reporting regarding KU into a Bondage and Bias Journalism scene with a kinky Iago-like reporter misquoting Othello, while he pretends to be a journalist pro bottom to a bumptious, flabby sports commentator. This was burlesque noir--as exaggeratedly twisted as the ridiculous speculation that KU is about the equal of UK; that Xavier may not be a decisive addition; that ommitted TReleford looking great; and that omitted T. Robinson's gleasting (beasting on glass).

At other times, like the paragraph above, I try to collapse a multi-part post into a Cliff's Note.

Both are stretching exercises aimed at a little fun.

Sometimes I reduce immense subjects that have had millions of books written about them to haiku.

Adam liked Eve Failure at kingdom building Then all hell broke loose.

This would be the bible reduced to a three act play and then expressed cryptically in haiku.

This site is a logonasium (just made that one up, too)--a virtual practice floor to work out in with words.

"In the beginning was the word..."

This site is the YMCA of words, the city league of sentences, the play ground of paragraphs, the Tai Chi of tomes. It accretes daily into the lexicon of the KU basketball legacy.

And even the too boring can be redeemed by the PgDn button, and the too vile by the "suggest removal" link. :-)

Now let us start our virtual stretching, shall we?

gojbirds 10 years, 3 months ago

-bate, stretch virtually elsewhere. The Internet is vast and there are numerous outlets for your ramblings, let's keep comments to KU sports

Lance Hobson 10 years, 3 months ago

Xavier is just like Ordinary Orton! I love it! That's one adjective I bet he's never seen next to his name. Maybe if this turns out to be true, which I suspect it might very well be, we can start calling X "Ho Hum Henry." His brother can be "Sees no Action CJ."

Lance Hobson 10 years, 3 months ago

Sherron doesn't need to feed on anything except salads.

Ryan Mullen 10 years, 3 months ago

The thing I do not understand about Goodman's take is this. First he says, “One thing that struck me watching Kansas is how the gap from the Jayhawks — the consensus, maybe even unanimous top team in the country — to the rest of the legitimate national title contenders isn’t much at all. Sure, the Jayhawks have Collins and Cole Aldrich — two legitimate Player of the Year candidates. They also have terrific depth.

Then in the same breath he says that the key is Xavier. He just said that the gap between us and everyone else was big. How can he say both he watched us with X and said the gap was big. Then he says the key is X. What a total butt hole.

jaybate 10 years, 3 months ago

gojbirds,

Check your DNA, will ya?

I did and you're not my daddy.

I'll stretch where I damn please.

Now, talk to me about your feelings about your mother and father; that seems as good a place as any for your therapy with jaybate to begin.

Next.

jaybate 10 years, 3 months ago

jayhawkinmullen,

Way to cut to the chase.

But I think calling him a "total butt hole" does a disservices to sphincters everywhere.

Lance Hobson 10 years, 3 months ago

We were a couple of Morningstar turnovers away from getting the the Elite 8 last year against a team that went to the Final 4, so with everyone back I find it hard to look at X as the main guy.

rcjh22 10 years, 3 months ago

jaybate, NO ONE LIKES READING YOUR STUPID COMMENTS!!

jaybate 10 years, 3 months ago

rcjh22,

Why don't you just stick with trying to understand what you dislike and stop speaking for persons who probably loathe you.

Let me guess what your problem really is. It will take a few guesses.

Your wife slipped you a mickey, made an incision into your scrotum and tied your vas deferens into a bow line knot.

You are in the stage of Alzheimers just before diagnosis.

Your wife left you for a Weimeraner.

You have been given 36 hours to live and are hopelessly stuck at a three day religious retreat.

You are having an unnerving realization that one of your multiple personalities is a member of The Antlers.

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 3 months ago

I've gone back and reviewed what Jeff Goodman had to say. Being the open minded level-headed person that I am, I'm going out on a limb too say he might actually have a good point.

He's not demeaning Aldrich and Collins. He's not really even demeaning the team as a whole. His point is that there should be a third spoke in the wheel at least to make it roll over everybody else. That third spoke is supposed to be Xavier. His perception of X was that he didn't dazzle at Late Night. Im hindsight, I don't blame X for not putting on a clinic. That night is not about clinics. It's more about a celebration of the new season and an intrduction of new players. I hope X didn't sandbag it in efforts to not make it all about him. But, Goodman should be savvy enough to avoid making negative judgements at such an event. Xavier will display his dominance in one of the first two or three games and Goodman should be man enough to offer his comments then in response to those at Late Night.

Now, rcjh, your's is a bold and futile effort. You obviously are a newbie when it comes to the tolerance and appreciation of our Jaybate. He's like the special uncle who has everybody entertained at some events while at others his ramblings are more than most can abide by. His "Rainman-like" charm is endearing while disturbing to some who haven't seen the light. The light will always shine as will your right to criticize it. Viva la freedom of speech (and the scroll down key)

Ryan Mullen 10 years, 3 months ago

memhawk,

I could not disagree with you more. Are you saying that X is going to be our only third option. The reason that everyone is upset is because anyone could be the third option or fourth or fifth we are stacked with talent.

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 3 months ago

No, you've misunderstood my comments mulllen.

I'm suggesting that X is the third point on the triangle. The team doesn't stop there obviously. With his hype and potential upside to surpass many others on the current team career-wise, he should compliment Cole and Sherron the most. We could all have been suckered in by hype, etc. And, I have been vocal about the theatrics of some of the actions, comments, etc. about him and from him in the past. But, if he is the real deal, we should witness something truly special when these three are on the floor together. There will be an unlimited number of combinations that HCBS will experiment with and employ throughout the season. Very seldom with these combinations will it seem that we are under-matched with our opponents.

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