Sunday, October 18, 2009

How Keegan voted


The following is Tom Keegan’s Oct. 18 ballot for the Associated Press college football poll.

  1. Florida
  2. Alabama
  3. Texas
  4. Boise State
  5. Southern Cal
  6. LSU
  7. Iowa
  8. Cincinnati
  9. Oregon
  10. Miami
  11. Penn State
  12. TCU
  13. Georgia Tech
  14. Oklahoma State
  15. BYU
  16. Texas Tech
  17. Virginia Tech
  18. Houston
  19. Utah
  20. Ohio State
  21. Oklahoma
  22. Pittsburgh
  23. West Virginia
  24. Arkansas
  25. Arizona


MrPilot 11 years, 3 months ago

One loss and you drop us completely from your ballot? Complete jerk.

sdoyel 11 years, 3 months ago

A big reason why OU is still ranked in the AP poll. This moron.

3-3 and likely without Bradford the rest of the year? Come on!

CrimsonPhoenix 11 years, 3 months ago

Personally, I would've dropped both KU and OU from the Top 25. Neither have any quality wins.

Eric Williams 11 years, 3 months ago

@CrimsonPhoenix -- I agree. When you lose to a 1-4 team on the road, you don't deserve to be in the Top 25. Doesn't mean KU isn't top 25 material, they just need to earn it.

How many losses does OU have to have before their name doesn't matter anymore. ANY other 3-3 team would be laughed at if they received a vote.

Also Ohio State should (in my opinion) should fall out of...or to the bottom...the top 25. Losing to a 1-5 Purdue team when you're #7 is ridiculous.

Florida vs. Alabama debate time:

Bama struggled ON THE ROAD and beat South Carolina 20-6. Florida struggles AT HOME to Arkansas and everyone talks about how great Tebow is and the great Gators. Didn't Tebow fumble twice? The Gators should not be #1, a case for #2 or #3 maybe, but NOT #1. When you struggle against Tennessee and Arkansas you are not the best team in the country.

And Keegan, how, please explain, HOW does Arkansas jump into the Top 25 with a loss?! I know you can't, so I'll do it for you.

You had to fill out you're 25 and you didn't want to include KU or Nebraska, so you thought "Hey they tried hard against Florida, why not?"

kansas22 11 years, 3 months ago

The last two weeks KU has played have they looked even remotely like a top 25 team? No way! Completely agree. Not Keegan's job to be bias or to stand up for KU. Look at it from a different perspective other than a KU fan's. KU does not look like one of the top 25 best teams in college football right now. Our best win: Iowa State...

drum1984 11 years, 3 months ago

Re Kansas: ZERO Quality wins. and 2 sloppy wins over not great teams. Re Oklahoma: OU's 3 losses have been by a combined 5 points, all to top 20 teams. Whether or not they have Bradford the rest of the year should make ZERO difference on their current ranking. Re Ohio St.: If every team with a bad loss dropped out of the top 25 there wouldn't be 25 teams. USC lost to Washington. Houston lost to UTEP. etc. Re Arkansas: They outplayed Florida. They were way more impressive in their loss than many teams who won.

I have no problem with Keegan's ballot. It's an opinion and one than can definitely be defended.

Joe Ross 11 years, 3 months ago

So let me get this. Kansas has been playing paper tigers and struggling/barely getting by in the cases of the Golden Eagles and Cyclones, they face a washed out Colorado team and lose, and people think we DESERVE to be in the top 25? The only proof of anything in these comments is that some of you people know absolutely nothing about sports.

JayViking 11 years, 3 months ago

OU in the top 25 with 3 losses? Come on.

jhawk23 11 years, 3 months ago


Wow, ad hominem. Classy!


Just after you say that a team (KU) doesn't deserve to be in the top 25 because it lost on the road to a 1-4 team, you say that another team (Ohio State) team that lost on the road to a 1-5 team should fall to the bottom of the rankings. Inconsistent ever?

FlaHawk 11 years, 3 months ago

KU has proved nothing this year. They have NOT played a team that did not have at least 3 loses by now in the season? Reesing/Meier/Briscoe are great but as a team, they have shown nothing. OU is another 3 lose team, although they have lost to 3 top 20 teams. Looks like UT is only team left on schedule that has not lost at least 2 games already and Big XII play is just starting. I seriously doubt that KU's 5-1 record indicates it can run the table except for UT. I would be pleased with an 8-4 record based upon what I have seen so far. An InSight Bowl invite is starting to look good (again)!.

gongs4ku 11 years, 3 months ago

Can't blame somebody for not voting KU in the top 25. If I was voting I'd put them at #24 at the very best.

jhokfan 11 years, 3 months ago

A lot of sound logic why we shouldn't be ranked but the coaches and writers disagree. Every week a good team struggles or loses to a lesser opponent and manages to still be ranked. We play in a tough conference and KU is a program that has meant something in recent years. Maybe we have earned that benefit of the doubt.

Eric Williams 11 years, 3 months ago


Ohio State has at least played a top 10 team in USC (they lost, but barely) and they were #7 when they lost to a 1-5 team.

KU was what (#15, #17) depending on which poll when they lost to CU. That's why I said Ohio State should fall farther down, but not necessarily out.

Purdue: 1 bad loss (Northern Illinois); other 4 (Oregon, Minnesota, Notre Dame, Northwestern)

Colorado: 2 bad losses (Colorado State, Toledo); Other 2 (West Virginia, Texas)

I'm sorry, but losing to Purdue is really bad for Ohio State, but not as bad as losing to Colorado.

Also, I never said there was a formula for if a team loses to a team with XYZ record, they have a mandatory fall of XYZ spots. It's called perspective.

Voters keeping OSU at #20, are leaving the door open for the Big Ten favorite to climb back into the BCS Rankings...that was strictly a money move.

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