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Monday, October 12, 2009

Mangino: Reesing should be a part of Heisman discussion

Kansas quarterback Todd Reesing puts a move on Northern Colorado linebacker Cameron Friend during the third quarter Saturday, Sept. 5, 2009 at Memorial Stadium.

Kansas quarterback Todd Reesing puts a move on Northern Colorado linebacker Cameron Friend during the third quarter Saturday, Sept. 5, 2009 at Memorial Stadium.

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Kansas coach Mark Mangino isn't one who usually advocates for personal awards for his players.

That changed a bit on Monday when Mangino was asked about his quarterback Todd Reesing.

"We've only played five games, but he certainly — and this is an opinion — he certainly merits the right to be a part of the Heisman (Trophy) conversation," Mangino said during the Big 12 coaches teleconference. "When you look at him statistically, you're impressed, but I think the true way you judge Todd Reesing is you have to see him play.

"If you watch him play, the way he just has great leadership, the way he's in control, the way he can take what looks to be a minus-yardage play and turn it into a gain or a big gain, the real appreciation you have for Todd Reesing is after you watch him play. It's not fair to just look at his statistics."

Reesing is tied for fifth nationally with 315.8 passing yards per game. In five games, he has thrown for 1,579 yards and 13 touchdowns with three interceptions.

"I've kept my word. We're not having any Heisman campaigns, and we're not going to do any of that," Mangino said, "but I think when you watch him play, whether you're an opposing coach, an opposing fan, a broadcaster or a journalist that covers the game, you walk away saying, 'That's kid's a pretty doggone good football player.'"

Comments

Topside 10 years, 3 months ago

Whoa Big Tuna, not gonna happen. If we win 2 of 3 form the South then ok.

jayhawkjoe98 10 years, 3 months ago

Mangino is completely right. When you compare Reesing's stats with the rest of the QB candidates, many of them are better. Check it out for yourself.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/collegeQuarterbackRating/year/2009/group/80

Eric Williams 10 years, 3 months ago

Nobody said he was a front runner, but since Tebow supposedly is the front runner, let's compare.

Rating Reesing: 157.6 Tebow: 165.9

Yards Reesing: 1,579 Tebow: 777

TD / INT Reesing: 13 / 3 Tebow: 7 / 2

Rushing Reesing: 101 yards, 3 TD Tebow: 309 yards, 5 TD

Sorry, but overall Todd's stats are better than the "front runner".

Ben Kane 10 years, 3 months ago

go Reesing...make me look smart. took 35/1 odds on it preseason.

topside is right though, have to take 2/3 from south.

Sparko 10 years, 3 months ago

It is ridiculous to look at the Heisman in terms of a team's ranking or even won-loss record. There are players who are simply special even on losing teams. But here we are. The voters are dazzled by the great supporting casts more than individual talent. Florida has played its only game of the season this past weekend, and can limp home. McCoy has looked less than impressive. Tebow and McCoy have had huge advantages in home games and schedules this year, plus enormous linemen. Looking at Reesing's blocking, he may be the best ever. That 57-yard heave to Briscoe into that Kansas 20mph headwind Saturday was one of the greatest throws I have seen.

honk_for_hawks 10 years, 3 months ago

its true. completion %: 7th in the country. yards: 9th in the country (with 7 of those ahead of him playing 6 games instead of 5 so far). Tied for 6th in TDs, again with most of those ahead of him playing 6 games. 12th in QB rating. Almost all of his stats are as good or better than the "front runners" and yet because our team isn't seen as dominating, he isn't even seen as a candidate. I would rather win than have a Heisman player, but the point is that the Heisman is an individual award.

Tony Bandle 10 years, 3 months ago

Why the hell NOT campaign for the Heisman!!??

It's not like Todd is a "paper candidate". Pound for pound, I think he's tougher than anybody out there.....including Tebow!!!!!!

Not that I'm prejudiced or anything.

jhokfan 10 years, 3 months ago

He should be part of the conversation even though he has practically no chance of winning. Graham Herril(sp?) didn't get invited to the cermony last year and look at his numbers.

brownhawk 10 years, 3 months ago

I like how Jimmy Clausen is a part of the conversation for Heisman when ND has been anything but impressive. I sincerely think the only reason Todd isn't a part of the Heisman race is because nobody thinks KU football is for real. Same thing happened in the '07 season when we proved everyone wrong and won the Orange Bowl against a very good VT. People were hesitant to say that KU was a dominant team when, in fact, they were leading the nation. This isn't going to change because we don't have 50+ years of football tradition here at KU. How often do you hear sportscenter talking about Todd when they talk about the Big 12? Very seldom...if they mention him, they're probably talking about the Big 12 as a whole, and only really touch on Bradford or McCoy.

OCJHAWK 10 years, 3 months ago

If we run the table in the big 12 TR would have to make New York. Especially with the defense we have.

jhawk4life1976 10 years, 3 months ago

Just don't start up a website or pass out Viewmasters.

kranny 10 years, 3 months ago

Mangino is simply saying that he should be part of the conversation and that at the very least should be taking place at this point in time. If the team tanks and his numbers drop, then drop him from the conversation but for now, give him a look.

Lance Hobson 10 years, 3 months ago

Is qb rating calculated differently in college? The college players ratings are off the chart number-wise compared the the NFL numbers. Not sure why it would be different, unless the include running in college.

actorman 10 years, 3 months ago

I don't know how the ratings are calculated (does anyone???), but I do know that college and pro ratings are figured out in completely different ways.

Benjamin Piehler 10 years, 3 months ago

im sure todd will come up. and then they will probably move on and talk about other candidates. terrific qb, but ku doesnt have the prestige for the football program. i think colt will likely win it this year... hopefully anyone but tebow...

GridironHawk 10 years, 3 months ago

Yea if anyone can explain the QB ratings that would be good. I was looking at Tebow/McCoy's ratings from last week and could not understand how Tebow had the higher rating (even if rushing is considered):

TEBOW RAT YDS TD INT CMP% 147.2 134 1 1 68.8

MCCOY RAT YDS TD INT CMP% 142.5 265 1 1 82.1

patrick_raftery 10 years, 3 months ago

Someone with the skills buy the URL, www.toddreesingforheisman.com , and start the campaign.

Hater 10 years, 3 months ago

too bad your non-frendly neighbor already bought it... haha tell sod to go chug some more boxed win and hit on some more cougars... toddreesinglovescougars.com should be his heisman website...

s_dot_riegs 10 years, 3 months ago

Todd has as much as a chance as Flutie did.

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