Sunday, November 22, 2009

Kansas’ Taylor bounces back from ‘freak night’

Kansas guard Tyshawn Taylor drives around Memphis guard Willie Kemp during the first half, Tuesday, Nov. 17, 2009 at the Scottrade Center in St. Louis.

Kansas guard Tyshawn Taylor drives around Memphis guard Willie Kemp during the first half, Tuesday, Nov. 17, 2009 at the Scottrade Center in St. Louis.


Kansas University sophomore guard Tyshawn Taylor, who committed a career-high seven turnovers in Tuesday’s narrow victory over Memphis, bounced back to play an error-free game Thursday against Central Arkansas.

“That was a freak night,” Taylor said of the mistake-filled effort versus the Tigers. “I had one like that last year against Missouri, too, when they pressured a lot like Memphis did. I’ve got to learn to handle that pressure a little bit better.

“I think I’m getting better at it,” added Taylor, who had five assists against Memphis and two versus Central Arkansas. “In the second game of the season, I was a little bit shaky. I’ll be all right.”

Taylor had six turnovers against two assists in last year’s two-point loss to Missouri in Columbia. The 6-foot-2, 185-pounder from Hoboken, N.J., also had six turnovers two other times — in wins at Nebraska and against Dayton in the NCAA Tournament.

After finishing his freshman season with 104 assists against 83 turnovers, Taylor is off to a 13-assist, nine-turnover start through three games.

“He had no turnovers, so from my standpoint he probably had a pretty good night,” KU coach Bill Self said, in response to a reporter’s question, “What kind of things are going on with Tyshawn?” after KU’s 94-44 rout of Central Arkansas.

“If you look at the box score and just look at field goals made out of field goals attempted, then I think if you are looking at a guard, you are really not doing justice to what a guy is or the important piece he is to the puzzle.”

Taylor, who has made three of 14 shots (21.4 percent) this season after hitting at a 50.6 clip a year ago, missed five of six shots against Central Arkansas and all four tries versus Memphis.

“He is laboring a bit right now. He doesn’t trust his shot as much as he will,” Self said. “I thought he made a conscious effort to do what we wanted him to do.”

Taylor is not fretting over his slow start on offense. He has averaged 4.7 points per game after averaging 9.7 his rookie season.

“I think I played pretty well. I just wasn’t making shots,” Taylor said of Thursday’s performance. “I had a couple open looks, a couple go in and out. I’m just going to keep trying to get better every day. It’s one of the main goals of our team, to get better every day. I’m going to come out and bust my butt and get better.”

KU senior Sherron Collins said Taylor, “was more focused, his head more into it,” against Central Arkansas than against Memphis.

“Tyshawn’s thing is he will lock down the star player, the best scorer on every team. I think he’s getting (into) that and isn’t worrying about scoring. When he’s not worrying about scoring, his points will come” Collins said.

Self does think Taylor could be the player asked to shut down the opposition’s hot hand in the backcourt.

“I hope it’s him,” Self said. “I don’t think Xavier (Henry) is quite ready for that. Sherron needs to save some energy. I think it needs to be Tyshawn and Elijah (as the) secondary defender off the bench.”

Collins believes Taylor will have a breakout sophomore campaign.

“I think he’s the same ol’ Tyshawn. He just got a little better over the summer,” Collins said of Taylor, who averaged a team-leading 10.8 points per game with a team-best 35 assists in pacing the United States to a first-place finish at the FIBA Under 19 World Championships in New Zealand.

“He’s learning. He’s making better decisions. He’s back 100 percent.”


Michael Auchard 10 years, 2 months ago

Wow, look at that picture... Taylor is ridiculously cut.

kansaspike 10 years, 2 months ago

Think if TT could really shoot the rock.....he'd be unstoppable. Hopefully, it will come this year.

His shot is very flat....reminds me of Aaron Miles.

yates33333 10 years, 2 months ago

When Robinson and Chalmers roamed the defensive back court, the ball was never safe in the opposition's hands. So far this year against cupcake opponents stealing the ball looks like a lost art at K.U. If muscling up has slowed K.U. maybe they need to relax a little and stay out of the weight room for a couple of days.

Good to know that TT drove around Memphis' players because they sure drove around K.U.'s players.

Joseph Kuebel 10 years, 2 months ago

True fact yates. couldn't agree more...

yates33333 (anonymous) says...

When Robinson and Chalmers roamed the defensive back court, the ball was never safe in the opposition's hands. So far this year against cupcake opponents stealing the ball looks like a lost art at K.U....they need some wax on wax of sheet goin on. get those quck hands akthat would force a turnver 1/4 possessions.

Haven't thought about that, too back chalmer's type doesn't grown on tees.

thmdmph 10 years, 2 months ago

TT is going to breakout someday. He has so much potential and has shown sparks of his talent here and there. Right now, I think coach gave us an insight into what's probably holding TT back. Coach Self said “I thought he made a conscious effort to do what we wanted him to do.” In other words, I think considering some of his deficiencies last year and what coach wants, TT is focusing too much on doing what coach wants during game times. As a result, when a player over thinks on what he needs to do, he makes mistakes and some things doesn't come as naturally as it should, like scoring. However, sooner than later, he'll pass this phase of his career and allow his natural talent to take over.

thmdmph 10 years, 2 months ago

Also agree with Yates33... I miss those days when defensive pressures by KU were a sight to see. When Hasse, Vaughn, Chalmers... were like bumble bees buzzing on the court trying to intercept the balls.

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago

Sunday Morning Dealing with No Game Till Wednesday:

}If we are going to wax nostalgic about defense, it was Mario Chalmers AND Russell Robinson that were the wreak havoc brothers of all time in college basketball history. They were greater than the sum of their parts. They looked like two combo guards, but they were one defensive hydra with four arms as long as tentacles and two heads and cunning and smart on defense as college basketball ever saw. I don't know if strip records of guard tandems are kept, but they were the best pair that I can recall at any school in any era. Period. Strip. Break. Finish. End of discussion.

} Quantum T is at a turning point this year. Self in this article makes abundantly clear that this year, Xavier is playing the three, and that Xavier can't lock down plus be the third option on offense. Put another way, Self is implying politely that Xavier is no Brandon Rush. He may also be taunting Xavier a little to get him to work harder on Self Defense, but that is another post. The implication for Quantum T is this: Self doesn't care if Quantum T scores a point this year at the 2, but he has to lock down, protect the ball, and feed the post. Protecting the ball has always been a chink in Quantum T's sub atomic particle accelerated armor. Self is signaling clearly, "Fix the chink now, Tyshawn, or you're not my 2. You have to give the team what I'm asking for, or I'll find someone who can." Now, I ask: who else on this team can lock down, protect the ball, and feed the post from the 2? Self mentions Elijah. Oh, really? The Prophet Elijah? The freshman? Self loves this guy and for good reason. He has all the competitiveness, fearlessness, speed, length and bounce of a top D1 guard, and Self says he could handle tough defensive assignments in relief. But wait! The Prophet is foul prone, inefficient on offense, makes freshman TOs, and so far has evidenced no ability to feed the post. Well, Self did say in relief, didn't he? So: who, then, could possibly lock down, protect the ball and feed the post at the 2 starting ASAP? Who? CJ? Maybe. But he's never actually done it, he's rusty, he's injury prone, and he fancies himself a PG. Certainly he will get a good shot in time, if Quantum T falters.

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago

IMHO, though, the answer is: Brady Morningstar. He did it 35 minutes a game last year from the 3 and Self has essentially shifted all the functions of the 3 last year to the 2 this year. Since Self seems increasingly confident that Marcus can back up Xavier a significant amount of time, this frees Brady for quite a bit more duty at the 2. It also keeps the team big. Brady and Quantum T and Elijah at the 2 makes this quite a stacked position starting in January, and Tyrel, he of 4 out of 5 from trey, is vying for action there, too, but Ty, bless his feisty big heart, is not a lock down type. Without putting too fine a point on it, Quantum T now has slightly less than one and a half months to master ball protection and post feeding, or he is not going to be a starter. And if the Prophet were to improve in these same areas, note that the Prophet can actually get to the rim and finish on people's heads without fading away like a falling leaf blown by a wind, as Quantum T is prone to do for reasons no one yet groks. Quantum T is now being tested by Self. Self knows Brady can already do everything Self needs at the 2, plus add a great gun to the starting five. But Quantum T brings a kind of speed that any coach loves, a kind of speed and quickness that is a match up advantage every frickin' night, a kind of speed that no one on the team has, but perhaps for the Prophet. Still, Quantum T is between a rock (Brady) and a fast place (Elijah) and Bill Self has put him there intentionally. This can be a special team. Special teams are made up of special men, hard men, men of tempered steel, men who bring Self Defense every night, men who protect the ball every night, men who do not wilt under withering pressure by other teams, men who finish, when necessary. If appearances are indicative, Self likes Taylor. Self believes Taylor should be his 2, but only if Taylor can be toughened. Self, the smithey of KU players' souls, is turning up the heat and bringing down the hammer. Do it, he is saying to Quantum T, and do it now. Prove to me you can. Give this team what it needs at the 2. Do it now. Master it. Harden up now. Or I will find someone who can.

This the great drama of college basketball. Young men given great opportunity and having to actually do what all of us only can babble about. As the poet Ezra Pound said, "Here error is all in the not done." Do it, Quantum T! Do in now. Protect the ball. Feed the post. Finish strong. KU will be the best it can be, if you do. But Self will find someone else if you can't. Do it! Do it now! Seize the moment. Everyone in Jayhawk nation is pulling for you.

You will still have an important place on this team, if you can't. You will have another chance to do it next year. You will still be a Jayhawk no matter what. But this is a potentially special team. And you are a potentially special part of it...if you can do it.

FairgroveJayhawk 10 years, 2 months ago

I see TT as having a lack of focus early this season, the reason Reed started over TT in the opening game. I see coach's comment “I thought he made a conscious effort to do what we wanted him to do.” to mean he hasn't been doing what is expected of him. I wonder if the summer success on the national team and NBA draft reports have gone to his head a bit.

Whatever the case may be causing a lack of focus, hopefully he is back on track and will shine like he should.

Grasshawker 10 years, 2 months ago

You hit the nail squarely on the head, Jaybate. The Chalmers/Robinson "Hydra" had the fastest four hands college basketball has seen in many years. This year's team can likely score with any we've had recently, but to paraphrase the old adage: Self-Defense wins championships. The sooner we find out if "Quantum T" can adjust to that concept, the sooner we'll know where these Jayhawks are headed.

KUTPO 10 years, 2 months ago

Great article jaybate, but "men of tempered steel?"

milehighhawk 10 years, 2 months ago

anyone have the cliff's notes to jaybate?

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago


Yes, yes, as I reread that phrase it is hackneyed.

My apologies.

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago


Speaking of hackneyed, good to see you losing "tired."


jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago

milelowhawk Post Script:

Forgot to mention that "Cliff's Notes" needs to go the way of "tired," too.


Chad Hallack 10 years, 2 months ago


I don't see this huge gap between X and Rush's defense as freshman... So far, I think X looks better on D than Rush did as a freshman and X definitely crashes the boards harder than Brandon did...

Coach said that X "isn't quite there yet" in reference to being a lock-down guy. Not that he's no Brandon Rush. IMHO you tend to draw conclusions from peoples words that were neither said, nor inferred.

Tyshawn has been and continues to be inconsistent. As I've said before, it could very well be a short stay for him in the starting line-up. Especially if C.J. comes along in his development.

Rock Chalk!

JOEKU 10 years, 2 months ago

Ironically, It is Tyshawn who is the bigger X factor to this team than X himself.

For this team to reach the LEGENDARY status that most of us beleive we can reach, we need Tyshawn to develop into the defensive stopper that Self beleives he can be.

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago


The only differences I see between X and Brandon as freshmen are: a) Self used Brandon as his perimeter stopper; and b) around midseason [if memory serves] Self announced that Brandon was the number one option and going to have to carry the team on his back. Other than these, I see no real differences whatsoever between X and Brandon, as freshman. :-)

Eurekahwk 10 years, 2 months ago

Even after a year of prep school, BRush wasn't built as well as X. I'm not sure BRush looks as stacked as X now.

KGphoto 10 years, 2 months ago

Rush has nowhere near the physicality of X. And while he was a good rebounder at 6'6", X is already rebounding with gusto. His rebounds are stronger. Once he gets more comfortable in the system, like the beginning of Big 12 play, his average is going up to 6 or 7.

And I'm not even close to believing that TT is gonna lose his spot. He has the experience, don't forget the summer, and the heart to be the #1, 2. Give the kid a chance to get warmed up. He'll be fine.

100 10 years, 2 months ago

Tyshawn -- you want your shot back on? Focus on not turning it over & that's even better than a shot attempt!

This year is all about controlling the other teams with great passing, even if we're just spreading the court to make the defense run a bit before Tyshawn receives a high pick from Aldrich, who then flips it over the top to Withey after receiving a completely legal NFL style backpick from the X-man.

The next time down the court we run the same play...

And guess whose open in the corner?

Oh my goodness could it be?

The X man....

Put that shot up in the air big fella & let's watch its rotation as it flies high towards #13 in the rafters....

While we're waiting for X-man's shot to hit its apex -- guess which team is really tired (already)?

Thats right! The other team!

Look at them... After all that running around chasing your passes & fighting through picks, they are barely even trying to box out... One of them has his fist up to the bench.... Poor guys... Sucks when the other team isn't throwing it away, kind of burns your lungs... And worse yet you don't get any points for it!

And guess who can pass it much easier now because the other team is already worn down 5 minutes into the game?


Ooops, with all that day dreaming the X man missed...

That's OK!!!

Because I hear a coal train's brother coming!!!

Guess whose there to flush it with the grace of a 7'0" hulked up swan?


Or Withey....

Or Morris...

Or the ESPN highlight reel himself, T-Robb...

Next time down the court, same play is run...

Wow X-man is covered this time... Look whose wide open in the other corner...

A bowling ball who can shoot!

Great pass Tyshawn, Get it up Sherron!


That's all this season is about Tyshawn...

No turnovers. Lots of assists....

I dare you to get 20 assists next game.

"Passing Wins Championships"


FairgroveJayhawk 10 years, 2 months ago

I've read Morningstar will not be eligible to play in a game until mid-December due to his suspension but does anyone know which game that would be?

Steve Brown 10 years, 2 months ago

100 well said, and IF TT gets 20 assits a game, we'd be walking on sunshine. & able to become PikesPeak "legendary" and Jaybate's "pinnacle of perfection.''

HCBS shares that TT is attempting to do what we are asking him to do, translates that he is in reprogramming mode = break down to build up. Might explain the TT Phog.

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago


Aside from my own recently minted Steals-to-TOs ratio, which likely will fade in interest to me as the newness wears off, assists is the most fascinating single statistic to me in basketball.

I can explain high scoring.

I can explain big rebounding numbers.

I can explain TOs (at least I think I can).

I am also sanguine about my understanding of steals and FT percentages, and trifectation rates.

But trying to explain assists mesmerizes me the same way certain enduring mathematical problems vex and fascinate mathematicians.

Why can Bob Cousy, Oscar Robertson, Magic Johnson, John Stockton, and Steve Nash regularly hand out assists in double figures and other PGs who seem to have as much, or more, physical ability and competitiveness, plus some equally fine team mates, not?

This freakish capacity for assists has haunted me since I was 12. I was an exceptional passer from an early age. I discovered early on that I could thread the ball through traffic and get it to the hands of another player, often when the other player thought it impossible. I learned early it was not enough to get the ball there on the hands. You had to understand, when a teammate had the expectation of getting a feed. You had to work with them between games, between practices to communicate that it could come at any moment when they were in position to score, not just when they thought I could get it to them. They had to understand that I could see paths emerging that they might not and that they had to be ready to catch it. When they were near the basket, they had to be ready. They had to keep their hands in a position they liked to make their offensive move from, because I was going to put the ball where there hands were--not just anywhere. I don't know how I did this. I have never known how I did this. I just could do it. And yet, I could not dish at rates like the great PGs of basketball history.

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago

So: among the greats I mentioned above, what are the common threads among all these wildly different (at least in physical appearance and athleticism) PGs that allow them to amass these monster assist numbers where others cannot?

Notice the following before venturing an explanation:

--of the guys I have mentioned above, only Cooz and Johnson were frequently on championship teams and surrounded by superb players;

--only Oscar and Magic were particularly tall;

--only Cooz, Magic, and Nash use much feinting and French Pastry;

--only Stockton and Oscar had cat like quickness; and

--only Cooz, Nash and Magic played on teams that consistently ran.

What kind of freaks are these great PG I have listed?

What is the connection between them?

What would it take for Tyshawn to become a monster assist man?

Why can't Sherron do it?

Why couldn't Jacque Vaughn do it consistently?

Why can't Allen Iverson do it for a career? Why can he only do it intermittently?

John Stockton and Magic could do it and still score 20ppg.

Oscar could do it and score 30ppg.

What have they got that Iverson don't got?

How do we turn Tyshawn into a monster assist man, even an 8-10 assist per game man?

What are the drills?

How many touches does he need?

Where does he have to be on the floor?

What can he do to become KU's first option for assists?

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago

Change of Subject: Tyrel Reed and Tolkien...

Am I the only one who notices that Tyrel Reed is more than just a guard with a gun?

Am I the only one who notices that Tyrel Reed looks vaguely (and only from an occassional Nick Krug camera angle) like a super-sized character come to KU from Tolkien's Shire.

It is entirely possible that in his distant, perhaps mythological family past, that Tyrel Reed may be related to the lesser known Bagginses of Middle-Earth, the Basketball Bagginses. And it may also be correspondingly possible that Middle-Earth is itself simply the true mythic roots of the Middle West.

In fact, as I think on it, it is entirely possible that Burlington, Kansas, may rest on top of, or grant passage directly to, the Shire.

Reed's size and basketball IQ and elegant trinity fooled me for awhile. He seemed like just another small town Mr. Basketball.

But, but after studying a few Nick Krug pictures closely, especially the one cropped to reveal only his head and shoulders at the top of his jump shot, I do believe, that deeply recessed in his genes are pointy ears and wisdom, insight and knowledge far, far, far beyond our overworldly grasp.

Why does this matter to KU basketball?

Well, this is potentially a special season.

It only seems right that a team striving to win the NCAA has a connection to the Lord of the Rings.

Eliott Reeder 10 years, 2 months ago

Reed is not a descendant of the Shire-folk. Much more likely from the realm of Lothlorien. He is a half-elf if anything. We should start calling him 'Strider', or Aragorn son of Arathorn on special occasions...

Eliott Reeder 10 years, 2 months ago

Also... Jaybate: I have been fascinated by the development of Steve Nash over the years. At Santa Clara, he averaged 2.2/3.7/6.4/6.0 assists per game through the four years of his career, improving every season. As an NBA rookie, he only had 2.1 APG. But over the next ten years, his APG totals have risen at a consistently steady rate (about one or two per year) to a little over 11 per game these last couple of years. This has nothing to do with his surrounding cast, because from PHO to DAL and back to PHO, the personnel has altered significantly. He didn't change overnight, so we can toss out the 'devil at the crossroads' theory. So is the steady improvement of his numbers simply due to a serious work ethic and constantly studying the game? How did he do it? What is the secret? He is 35 years old, appears to be athletically limited (in other words 'white'), and yet still puts up these gaudy assist numbers (albeit a slight dip this year) even with the departure of D' Antoni's run-and-gun offense.

Scott Smetana 10 years, 2 months ago

We need Taylor to fill Robinson's role: defense, defense, defense and good ball handling. Should be an easy role, he's quick. If he can't I'm sure Brady would be happy to oblige.

Joe Baker 10 years, 2 months ago

Fairgrove- It may be the Michigan game if it's mid-December.

If not mid-December, he may not come back until the first game in Jan 2, Temple game.

I'm guessing.

Joe Baker 10 years, 2 months ago

Lighthawk- I've seen that vid several times.

TT is very RussRob-like.

I'm waiting for him to bust and maintain.

He could be a good shooter like Mario, but he will have to work on the shot for consistency of Mario.

He will! Maybe not this year, probably his Junior year. I don't see him going NBA until maybe after his Junior yr. It's really up to him. If he wants to go early, he's got some work to do. If he wants to go slow, he may be at KU two more years!!

100 10 years, 2 months ago

KoolKeith & Jaybate,

Fabulous stuff by both of you during a break from the KU hoops news cycle.

I do (seriously) have the answer for both of you. Let's just be completely honest here & stomp my ego into the trashcan.

I know assists. If there was a timemachine Steve Nash & I wouldve run circles around each other.... And with my cane I've seen Nash play so many times in person I need a bag that one defecates into.

I'm too old to do it now, but I know assists, that's what I did besides scoring on the rise, boxing out my defensive player from 20 feet & coaching coffin defense. My shot was never pure but I scored when given a spot to leap. Besides that, it's passing.

Let's talk Nash: he was given a huge advantage for a year or two when the NBA changed the rules (strictly enforced the handcheck). This meant Nash could go anywhere he chose without getting touched. The guy is built like a barrel & is still the best athlete on the court with five eyes, some on his elbows & knees.

His stance is always how it should be, Phogesque -- one must always keep in mind he is playing the NBA game & not the colllege game. Much of what he does just wouldn't work in college due to the zone.

But what he does in an ancorn is he pulls defenders away from the goal. Either he rises if he has any space & hits (always) his ten foot jumper. Or he'll pull them out to 25 feet & dish to an automan, like a Staudemire type big man. It's automatic everytime. That's why playing with Shaq was tough for him. He didn't slice defenders, he bungled his way up the court & slowed down Nash's game. Quick tall big guys help Nash bigtime. He needs someone cutting when he pulls three defenders away.

It's automatic -- and no one is better at it in today's game.

As for the NCAA game -- it's just so much different.

The ball must be whipped around to wear the defense down. At any point a scorer could have the ball. That doesn't mean shoot. A pump fake here, a cut there. It's precision, it's cutting, it's setting picks. It's gaspedal, all the time. It's so much prettier of a game. If it's done properly, the court is spread out (& all five players can fire the ball across the court, European style).

That's why Tyshawn need not even think about scoring -- it just happens if you're wide open (like an ESPN tomahok). The D will be too concerned about the Coal Train & the Bowling ball & the Xman & Brother Mc/MkMorris to even blink an eye at Mr. T....

Alas Mr. T should be the last of the D's concern.

That's why he needs to simply swing the ball around -- safely, smartly, & bide his time. His time will come -- keep the head on a swivel. Set some picks. Keep the ball moving. Wear the other team down.

Those assists will come to guys who move & get above the rim & pull defenders away.

The last thing he or anybody else needs to worry about is scoring. It's passing... that's all it is... Flickin' it...

"Lasers wins Championships"


FairgroveJayhawk 10 years, 2 months ago

Thanks truehawk93, hopefully will get us the specifics.

Jack Wilson 10 years, 1 month ago

I just have to say, wtf. Brady Morningstar? Seriously? Not on a title team, my friends. If Tyshawn does not step it up, or if Elijah does not make the leap, then this is not a national championship team. It isn't scoring, it really isn't assists. What this team needs at the 2 is what Tyrell Reed was so obviously inept at vs. Memphis .. ball handling.

We need a 2 that can reliably handle the ball and then deliver the ball. With the handling of the ball will come some very easy assists. It is needed to give Sherron a break while Sherron is in, and needed when he is out. Tyshawn, unfortunately, wants his points and tries too hard to force the ball on the dribble (and passing, too). Reed just doesn't have the skill vs. the fast/quick players like Memphis had.

This is the Achilles' heel. It was the same issue last year. If Tyshawn can relax and understand he is a role player this year, the results will be obvious.

And Morningstar can't fill that role. On this team, it is either Tyshawn or Elijah. Remember, the '08 team had 3 reliable ball-handlers (Mario/Sherron/Rob). If neither Tyshawn or Elijah become the reliable 2, we bow out in the Sweet 16 or Elite 8 at best.

Steve Brown 10 years, 1 month ago

High Elite Major: Not on a title team, my friends. If Tyshawn does not step it up..... What this team needs at the 2 is.... ball handling.

drgslyr: I think it's too early to get too worried about Tyshawn. He most likely will work this out,

I think you are both correct, we will eventually face a Henry Bibby (saw his dad in AFH awesome then as well) AZ or Carmelo "Cuze Anthony or god knows who from god knows where and we need that B Rush shut down defender.

It is too early and TT has reserves, Brady for example. TT is on fact track growth curve, he doesn't need March Madness skills today. It's early & HCBS is right where he needs to be, inside TT brain reprogramming it.

FairgroveJayhawk 10 years, 1 month ago

---I don't think it is fair for anyone to criticize Tyrel or Brady. Both of these guys are overachievers and have earned their minutes. They set the bar...---

100% agree. Coach self had many good things to say about Brady in his press conference. Also it was the genius of Self that played him last year when many would have thrown a "wtf" or the "if Morningstar plays..." scenario.

Only time will tell.

100 10 years, 1 month ago

We are loaded at all positions. If we are not loaded at the 2, I find this quite interesting:


A. CJ Henry -- probable starter in the next month or so. Very clean vision of court. Great shot. Takes care of ball. Tough as nails. Boxes out. Great, strong defender.

B. Tyshawn Taylor

C. Elijah Robinson

D. Brady Morningstar

E. Tyrel Reed

F. Conner Teahan

G. Mario Little (can pull his shirt anytime)

H. Travis Releford (can do the same).

Guys, fear not. We are loaded. If turnovers are ever a problem again, all Coach has to do is put someone else in for 5 minutes. The problem goes away by itself.

It's all about passing & defense.

"Passionate Intelligence Wins Championships"


emillasap 10 years, 1 month ago


I award you my highly coveted "best post so far this season" award. I couldn't agree more about the beauty of Self's offense when done right. Aside from the occasional missed open shot, if run properly the offense is unstoppable. I believe such explains why Morningstar can be a viable option on most nights (fiat the defense). Obviously, some players need more time than others to understand the concept. Some players will never get it;however, if Self can get any 9 guys on this team to understand then 40 -0 is definitely possible. Fun to watch it all play out.

kansasbasketball 10 years, 1 month ago

i vote we let tyshawn wear that headband and then maybe it will bring him to doing good things!

Joe Baker 10 years, 1 month ago

If TT doesn't get his act together during the first half, I would start working EJ into the rotation.

Reed and BM are not shooters from the dribble like SC. They are pass shooters, with feet planted. I think TT is capable, but not consistent. EJ seems to be the next option. He's better than TT was this time last year and with some confidence, can be that "x" factor. He can be that much needed scorer that some are referring to with a few games under his belt. Give him a chance in the next few games and let him produce.

They all need to burn the nets on any given night. I just can't get the msu sweet 16 game out of my head. We had no shooter and they wouldn't shoot the ball. We need that tandem 1-3 punch like Mario, RussRob and Rush!! The key was they were consistent on any given night.

Joe Baker 10 years, 1 month ago

We've got the 1- Mario/SC and the 3- Rush/X...that 2- RussRob/TT/Reed/EJ is the opp.

Some have also said they have to handle the ball. Reed/BM and even TT at times have problems handling the ball.

EJ's biggest issue is the freshman factor. He's making the transition from the HS pace to D1 pace!! This is really daunting!!

I don't like the tournament talk of getting deep and then knocked out by some team that picks up that 2 spot weakness. HCBS must resolve that now!! I don't like that possibility, but have to agree. I'm just not quite convinced like the 1 and 3 positions. The 4 and 5 is pretty well solid at this point. That 2 needs some more work!!

jaybate 10 years, 1 month ago


I am down with your suggestion, but I was thinking of something a little more like this:

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