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Wednesday, June 3, 2009

Keegan

2009 Jayhawks fourth in North? I think not

Shocking prognosis

Kansas University head football coach Mark Mangino speaks with media members in this file photo from Saturday, Aug. 18, 2007 following a morning practice at Memorial Stadium.

Kansas University head football coach Mark Mangino speaks with media members in this file photo from Saturday, Aug. 18, 2007 following a morning practice at Memorial Stadium.

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The Phil Steele preseason college football magazine hits the stands next week and consider yourself warned, fans of Kansas University football: You’re going to see the same color your favorite players see when they look into the stands during football games in Lincoln and Norman.

Steele bills his product as “the most accurate preseason magazine in the last 10 years!”

That doesn’t mean all of his picks are right. Nobody’s that good. In fact, one of his picks in this year’s magazine is outrageously off base; so off base most KU football fans likely will wait for the release of Lindy’s to begin digesting the outlooks of 2009 college football teams.

Here goes: Steele picked Kansas to finish fourth in the Big 12 North. That’s right, fourth!

Memo to Steele: These aren’t the Jayhawks with block lettering on the sides of their helmets. These are the Trajan font Jayhawks. The Jayhawks of seniors Todd Reesing, Kerry Meier and Darrell Stuckey. Seniors have a way of making it happen and these guys have played like veterans since they stepped foot on campus. Sure, the schedule is particularly brutal, but fourth place? In the North?

Steele picks Nebraska first. Nothing outlandish about that selection. The Cornhuskers controlled both lines of scrimmage in the KU game in Lincoln. The Cornhuskers have size and speed and a tremendous home-field advantage, though their game against KU is in Lawrence this season, reason enough to make Kansas an even better pick for first place than Nebraska.

Anyone who cries foul with anybody picking either KU or the ’Huskers to win the North thinks with his or her heart. It’s where Steele goes from there, namely off the deep end, that will draw the ire of local football fans.

Steele has Colorado and, get this, Kansas State tied for second place.

Dan Hawkins built a juggernaut at Boise State and based on that it’s easy to project that he’ll do the same at Colorado, if he can convince recruits that the students will come down off the slopes and support the football team in a big way once he puts a powerhouse product on the field. But better than Kansas now?

Bill Snyder II doesn’t have to be as remarkable as Bill Snyder I for the Wildcats to become a contender, but to think that will happen in the first year after Ron Prince would be to believe luck had anything whatsoever to do with Lawrence High’s state-championship baseball team’s 9-0 record in one-run games. The best indicator of a team’s balance, pitching depth, unity, toughness and ability to perform in the clutch is its one-run record.

OK, enough baseball talk. Back to football.

The gargantuan advantage KU has at quarterback over the rest of the North teams is enough to make the Jayhawks the team to beat.

Joe Ganz is gone for Nebraska. Dual-threat Zac Lee leads Cody Green and Latravis Washington in the competition. Smart money says runner-extraordinaire Daniel Thomas will beat out Carson Coffman at K-State. Neither Cody Hawkins nor Tyler Hansen of Colorado approaches Reesing in ability.

What do Lee, Green, Washington, Thomas, Coffman, Hawkins and Hansen have in common? Given the choice, I’d take Meier to quarterback my team over any of them. Instead, Meier will catch Reesing’s perfect strikes. Advantage Kansas.

Comments

100 5 years, 3 months ago

Great bulletin board material.

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Kusportsshould Notrequirethis 5 years, 3 months ago

I hope all the junk preseason rankings rank the 2009 Hawks as though they were a team from the late 90's.

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suttonku 5 years, 3 months ago

umm just thought i would throw this out there...Witt left the university of nebraska like 5 months ago...Zach Lee is competing with converted QB from LB Latravious Washington

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kansanfornu 5 years, 3 months ago

What suttonku said. Keegan, all you needed to do was look at Nebraska's roster for 30 seconds to know that Witt was no longer at Nebraska, or check Nebraska's spring game stats. Or read a single article about Nebraska by an author that actually knows what he's talking about. You get paid to write. It is your job and your living. You shouldn't be making errors like that.

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Dirk Medema 5 years, 3 months ago

Research? Are we talking research? Research?

I'm a writer not a researcher.

Are we also correct in believing that the line of scrimmage and QB will determine the game?

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Robert Brock 5 years, 3 months ago

Who is Phil Steele? Never heard of him.

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Carter Patterson 5 years, 3 months ago

I guess that makes Mizery 5th and Iowa State 6th....

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Rick Arnoldy 5 years, 3 months ago

"Let's leave the pre-season hype to soap opera lovers and wanna-be sports writers."

Such as Keegan?

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Joe Baker 5 years, 3 months ago

I'm with Brock...We'll leave our talking for the gridiron. Once again, we have to prove the quack writers wrong. Our leadership and recruits will be ready and this article should be used to fuel the hunger.

RCJH

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gutter 5 years, 3 months ago

Steele & Keegan - Two guys who need to get a clue.

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Clarence Haynes 5 years, 3 months ago

This sounds more like results from a popularity contest.This guy gets paid the big bucks to make a prognosis like this? I am in the wrong business! Pathetic!

Hawkins sucessful at Boise State? How about Mangino's successes at Oklahoma, K-State, and now 3 Bowl appearances at KU. Give me a break!

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William James 5 years, 3 months ago

4 bowl appearances. You give us a break

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joeyphog 5 years, 3 months ago

The sports food change goes like this, those who can't play coach, those who can't coach referee, and last but not least those who can't referee are sports announcers and writers. This is the year of the JAYHAWKS !!!

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joeyphog 5 years, 3 months ago

The sports food change goes like this, those who can't play coach, those who can't coach referee, and last but not least those who can't referee are sports announcers and writers. This is the year of the HAWKS!!!

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Kevin Kelly 5 years, 3 months ago

If you are going to force baseball into every post, can you at least have the sentance make sense? My brain hurts Keegan.

Also. Second day in a row where some simple checking and re-reading of an article would cause this paper to NOT look like it was run by chimps. Yesterday the sports editor couldn't figure out the difference between 'half the games' and 'half the non-confrence games'. Today the sports editor can't be bother to...you know...get up to date information on other teams IN OUR DIVISION!

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Jaminrawk 5 years, 3 months ago

Who the hell is Phil Steele? Sounds more like a porn actor than a journalist.

Colorado is going to be awful. Last time we saw Cody Hawkins he was taking 20 yard drop backs for safeties.

KSU has NOTHING left either. Their last two recruiting classes were awful and they will e breaking in a new QB that probably wouldn't start for any of the 11 teams in the Big XII.

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hail2olku 5 years, 3 months ago

Lindy's has us #1 in the north as does Sports Illustrated.

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jayhawkinATL 5 years, 3 months ago

Phil Steele is a shady Vegas odds-maker!!!

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jayhawkinATL 5 years, 3 months ago

Phil Steele is a worthless Vegas odds-maker!!!

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Clarence Haynes 5 years, 3 months ago

Sorry Fabio, I meant 3 bowl victories

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Jim Burns 5 years, 3 months ago

Not only is Keegan's cramming of a baseball reference into this piece tortuous to read, it is complete nonsense. A baseball team's record in one run games is nearly entirely due to chance/luck.

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waywardJay 5 years, 3 months ago

somethings never change..... perhaps they think the only atletes we have play basketball..... 4th is absurd, like Jack Palance in drag absurd.

if Sharp has no improvement we are easily top 2. if Briscoe stays healthy and has no improvement we are top 2. if meier stays healthy and no improvement we are top 2.

I found this quote with about as much fact checking as this article appear to have ( both writers ).......

Phil Steele: USC has toughest schedule.

Pac- 10 ? WHAT ???? don't they play like West coast soft football teams ????

THe pac -10 returns 5 teams that were bowl elgible from last season.....

USc plays 4 of them plus Ohio State ( in Ohio ) and notre Dame .

they should go 5-1 against those teams.

BY COntrast,

The big 12 had 7 eligible.

Kansas plays 5 of them, and I expect us to go 3-2.

Usc plays a tougher non-con than us... but our conference USC might get 7-8 wins a year as opposed to 11-13.

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truefan 5 years, 3 months ago

My North Picks:

1st: KU 2nd: Nebraska 3rd: Colorado/Missouri tie 5th: Iowa State 6th: Kansas State

Missouri pretty much lost everything important from last years team, but they have been recruiting better than K-State and Iowa State for many years now and I believe they will still beat both of those teams. I'm not picking K-State last because they are a rival, I simply think Iowa State started their upswing last year whereas K-State is starting theirs this year. Colorado has gotten slightly better every year and as I don't think Cody Hawkins is good I believe he can be the leader just like Jason Swanson was for KU back in 2005...not great, but good enough. I have KU over Nebraska because 1) we get them at our house 2) they are going to have a new quarterback running the show. I also think our defense will be better (gasp) even without our three monster linebackers. I've heard great things about our new defensive line coach such as: he is teaching our linemen moves they didn't even know about. That should help our line get to the young/terrible quarterbacks that the rest of the North teams are boasting. A couple of sacks, and we'll start to see errant passes coming off the arms of our opposing team's quarterback.

I didn't really do any research for my picks, I am just going off of who I know left and is returning from last years teams. If anyone else wants to make some picks, please do, I'd love to read them!...anything is better than watching my Royals go down the tubes again.

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jayhawker85 5 years, 3 months ago

Nebraska isn't going to get things turned around this year...

  1. KU
  2. Missouri
  3. Nebraska
  4. Colorado
  5. Kansas State
  6. Iowa State
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hawk316 5 years, 3 months ago

Wow! Some of the comments on this site are downright nasty. Unless the authors of all this vitriolic criticism score 100 % on all of their exams, perhaps it would be wise to cut Keegan a little slack. Ever hear, "let him who is without sin throw the first stone"? (paraphrase) Constructive criticism has its place, but why not present it with some grace?

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LAJayhawk 5 years, 3 months ago

mizzboo has a decent QB in one of the two Blaine's (not the one who got arrested for an MIP, weed and vicodin possession, but the other one). I believe he was the number 1 dual-threat QB and #14 overall in his class by Rivals. They will still undoubtedly stink, though.

As for these particular predictions, I will give it all the attention it deserves. None.

"Not only is Keegan's cramming of a baseball reference into this piece tortuous to read, it is complete nonsense. A baseball team's record in one run games is nearly entirely due to chance/luck."

While I agree that adding that baseball reference was painfully out of place -- even for Keegan's standards -- having a 9-0 record in 1 run games has WAY more to do with skill, talent and poise than with luck. 9 games is certainly enough of a sample to garner that particular opinion (and the state championship probably adds a bit of validity too).

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ononanon 5 years, 3 months ago

you all realize KU plays OU, UT, & TT this year, right? nu mu ku cu ksu isu

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jchal28 5 years, 3 months ago

Keegan, why the heck do we have to throw Lawrence High School baseball into this article? Are you kidding me?? As usual, this article has a good base to be a good one, but it had no organization and you threw in some in stupid random anecdote. After reading your article, I was once again left confused and unamused.

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averagejoe 5 years, 3 months ago

Here is my prediction for what it's worth: 1. Nebraska 2. Kansas 3. Colorado 4. Missouri 5. Iowa State I am not an expert, but looking at schedules, returning players and coaching this is how I think it shakes out. However, if the new Nebraska QB struggles at our place and we play better on defense against the rest of the pack we switch places. I am surprised that this prediction is not the consensus. In my opinion KU and NU were the two best teams at the end of last year in the North and have key players returning, why expect the top two to change?

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friend1980 5 years, 3 months ago

"Dual-threat Zac Lee leads pocket passer Patrick Witt in the competition"

Do sports reporters do any fact checking at all?? Patrick Witt left the Nebraska program and transferred to Yale more than a month ago!..

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rockemchalkemrobots 5 years, 3 months ago

"Patrick Witt left the Nebraska program and transferred to Yale more than a month ago!"

And that's why Lee is winning that battle.

averagejoe- Does K-State get booted from the North mid-season?

hawk316- You must be new here. Welcome to the board. In case you did not notice the irony, Keegan is calling out another writer for not knowing enough about recent KU football history to offer an educated opinion. It would seem that he'd want to double check his own facts before doing so. I have to agree with everyone else: the baseball reference is awkward and out of place.

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Jonathan Briles 5 years, 3 months ago

Prediction 1.KU 2.NU 3.CU 4.MU 5.ISU 6.KSU

Someone said something about us playing against OU, UT, and TTU. I think we can take one away from OU or UT, and I'm not too worried about TTU. Potts is a good replacement with a good arm but he is still new and they still lost a lot so I think that game is ours easily. As for NU, they may have lost a lot on offense with their receivers and QB but they still have tons on defense including their defensive end Suh. I think that game is a complete toss up. KU has leadership on offense and defense and we actually have true athletes that can compete with most anyone now and our coaching is outstanding. Most everyone who writes on this board knows all of this but I'm just giving my opinion. KU and NU are going to be first and second almost certainly I just honestly dont know who it will be but I'm really hoping for KU to come out on top. RCJH

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Rivethead 5 years, 3 months ago

ononanon:

Yes, I realize that KU has to play OU, UT, and TTU. And not only that, KU will have to play two of those teams on the road (and KU only won ONE true road conference game last year barely sqeaking by ISU).

But that still doesn't put MU above KU. Because of that difficult schedule, I think KU will be more desperate to beat MU at the end of the season, and thus in a better position to do so.

My Picks:

  1. NU
  2. KU
  3. MU
  4. ISU
  5. CU
  6. KSU
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averagejoe 5 years, 3 months ago

rockemchalkemrobots Thanks for pointing out my omitting of K-State. You know when you look at their schedule in the North it’s pretty good, K-State plays MU, CU and KU at home with ISU in Kansas City which should be an advantage for them. With that said, I think they beat MU, CU, and ISU to end up #4 behind CU tied with MU.

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Seth Peattie 5 years, 3 months ago

tool is just trying to sell magazines. he can eat ****. we'll win the north. we'll win the BCS NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP, too. mark it down.

suck it magazine that no one's ever read/heard of. you suck it.

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Rick Arnoldy 5 years, 3 months ago

Picking the "best" teams in the North isn't the same thing as picking the final standings. The South is still the best division and who you play will determine a lot about the North standings.

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Rick Arnoldy 5 years, 3 months ago

hawk316, how long have you been reading kusports.com? Keegan is a true idiot who thinks he knows more about bb than Self, fb than Mangino, and religion more than the Pope. Yet, in almost every article, someone can point out an egregious error. He's a pompous hack who staffs a Lawrence paper with Missouri shills.

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Joseph Kuebel 5 years, 3 months ago

That tool is just trying to sell magazines, and he can also eat my shiit. Ku wins the North this year.

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hawk316 5 years, 3 months ago

ohioburg, I've been reading kusports.com for several years, but I tend to enjoy the articles without getting too nitpicky. As I said, there is certainly a place for constructive criticism, but it can be done without being offensive. I certainly don't think it's necessary to call people names. I've made enough mistakes in my life to appreciate it when someone extends some grace my way. Know what I mean?

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hawk316 5 years, 3 months ago

ohioburg, Actually, I've been reading kusports.com for several years now, but I tend to enjoy the articles without getting too nitpicky. As I said, there is certainly a place for constructive criticism, but it can be done without being offensive. I certainly don't think it's necessary to call people names. I've made enough mistakes in my life to appreciate it when someone extends some grace my way. Know what I mean?

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hawk316 5 years, 3 months ago

Ooops. Sorry about the double posting. The site was jammed up.

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rasta_meta 5 years, 3 months ago

If there weren't changes to the coaching staff, I would have picked NU. However, Miller is a damn fine coach and he will be a big difference maker in coordinating the defense this year. Also, Texas Tech will be down this year. I think we will have a hard time against Texas and Oklahoma, but we very well could and should win every other Big 12 game.

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hailtoku 5 years, 3 months ago

Clearly that preseason ranking is a joke. I'm being as objective as I can be.

Every other preseason ranking has the winner of the Nebraska-Kansas game as the winner of the North. Its a coin toss.

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