Thursday, January 29, 2009

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KU center Cole Aldrich, who has his nose stuffed to stop a bit of bleeding, talks with Kansas head coach Bill Self during the second half Wednesday, Jan. 28, 2009 at the Devaney Center in Lincoln.

KU center Cole Aldrich, who has his nose stuffed to stop a bit of bleeding, talks with Kansas head coach Bill Self during the second half Wednesday, Jan. 28, 2009 at the Devaney Center in Lincoln.


Jayhawks conquer Cornhuskers for 12th consecutive time

The Jayhawks haven't lost against Nebraska since Bill Self's first season at Kansas.

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2009 KU-NU Jan. 28

Puffy nose

Kansas’ Cole Aldrich took a shot to his nose and had his left nostril plugged with cotton after the game.

“I don't know what it is. I’ll get it checked out tomorrow. It’s not anything that’s bothering me too much,” he said of his swollen nose. He refused to speculate on whether it was broken.

“It's a little runny. That’s all it is.”

He said the game was “real rough. They really kind of packed down a little big, came from every angle. They were swiping quite a bit, and they made it uncomfortable for us, myself included. They were a tough team. They came out gunning for us right away.”

Aldrich didn’t score or grab a rebound the first half. He had eight points and eight boards the second half.

“It’s tough. It’s real tough for me,” Aldrich said, asked if it’s difficult to play against a small team like NU. “It’s tough getting out to shooters and playing the dribble drive.”

Perfect from line

Sherron Collins went 4-for-4 from the free-throw line and now has made 27 in a row. That ties Wayne Simien for second best streak in KU history. Simien also has the record of 34.

“No,” Collins said if he’s thinking of the record. “What is the record?” he added, nobody in the vicinity of Collins able to recall the number and satisfy his curiosity.

Signee OK

KU signee Elijah Johnson, whose left knee has been bothering him, was cleared to play the rest of the season by his doctor Wednesday, the Las Vegas Sun reported.

The 6-2 guard from Las Vegas Cheyenne High missed a handful of games because of a slight ligament tear in his left knee earlier this season. He was limited to just three minutes in the second half of a game Tuesday night.

Next up

Saturday’s KU-Colorado game will be shown exclusively on ESPNU. Sunflower Broadband customers will need to subscribe to either Silver TV or the Sports Pack in order to receive the game as ESPNU is on channel 141. Tipoff for the game is 3 p.m. in Allen Fieldhouse.

Stats, facts

KU has won 12 in a row versus Nebraska and five straight in Devaney Center. ...KU trailed at halftime for the third time this year (UMass, 36-30, and Michigan State, 37-18). It is the first time the Jayhawks won when behind at the break. ... KU shot over 50 percent for the fifth straight game. ... KU’s bench outscored NU’s, 21-6. ... KU had a season-high 21 turnovers. ... Mario Little had a career-best seven rebounds while playing 30 minutes, also a personal high. He tied his career mark dishing out two assists.

Wall update

The country’s top high school senior prospect, John Wall, spoke to Jason Jordan of about his recruitment.

Wall, 6-foot-4 from Word of God Christian Academy in Raleigh, N.C., said he currently is “leaning toward Kansas and Memphis, not specifically in that order.”

He also has Baylor, North Carolina State, Oregon and Kentucky on his list.

“Those are the two coaches who I’ve had the best connection with so far because they’ve been in for in-home visits,” Wall said of Bill Self and John Calipari.

Wall told that Self told Wall he’d “have to work for everything.” Calipari compared Wall to NBA No. 1 draft pick Derrick Rose to indicate he’d have the ball in his hands a lot, which Wall said was “attractive.”

Wall told ESPN “probably” when asked if he was a likely one-year-and-done college player.


FlaHawk 12 years, 1 month ago

"Wall told that Self told Wall he’d “have to work for everything.” Calipari compared Wall to NBA No. 1 draft pick Derrick Rose to indicate he’d have the ball in his hands a lot, which Wall said was “attractive.”Wall told ESPN “probably” when asked if he was a likely one-year-and-done college player."KUdoes not need Wall and one and done. Idon;t think Memphis has enough balls (basketballs) to keep X and Wall happy at the same time. Wall would be better off going where he get's what he wants and KUis not that place!

osagefire209 12 years, 1 month ago


livedeadhead 12 years, 1 month ago

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John Brown 12 years, 1 month ago

Wall will have to work for it sometime in his career. If he's not a team player in the NBA, he won't see any championships. Of the 5 from KU that went pro from last years team, only Chalmers is getting any real PT. Chalmers is doing well because he is supporting Wade and Beasley and that team is playing incredible D.

jayhawkinATL 12 years, 1 month ago

Self wants Wall to compete for time while Calipari is willing to say whatever he (Wall) wants to hear...that says a lot about the difference in character of the two coaches. If what Calipari has said sways Wall, so be it...then we don't need THAT type of player at KU!!!

zissou 12 years, 1 month ago

I'm not crazy about "one and done" players myself, but it's just part of today's game. We can pretend that it's not, and that KU is somehow "above" that sort of nonsense, or we can accept the reality that our beloved Brandon Rush and Darrell Arthur were considered "one and done" (depending on who you were listening to, anyway). Look, Wall isn't a long-term solution or the prototypical Kansas guard, but if you've fooled yourself into thinking this team wouldn't benefit from having him on the roster, you're insane.

Jarod DeLozier 12 years, 1 month ago

Kansas recruits guys who are going to help them win championships. Memphis recruits guys who are going to increase the profile of a program that plays in the C-USA. If he isn't interested in winning a national championship, but more on just playing a year and getting selected early in the draft, than Memphis is a place for him. They can go 30-5, undefeated in the C-USA, and lose as soon as they see a team that's any good in the tournament...if he comes here I don't think he'll be one and done. Have we ever had a one and done player?

Joel Hood 12 years, 1 month ago

Ummmm, wasn't Brandon Rush thought to be a one-and-done when he came here? I guess that didn't turn out so bad. My point is that high school kids have a lot of preconceptions that change dramatically after 1 semester of college hoops. I think Bill Self is much better equipped to judge the merits of recruiting Wall than any of us are.

wi_jayhawk 12 years, 1 month ago

I agree. One-and-done shouldn't have a place in Kansas basketball. It's about building and making better players/teams. A person can't really do that in one year.

tsweat 12 years, 1 month ago

you can say one and done doesnt have a place all u want but the last 2 guys that came in here thinking one and done (rush and shaddy) turned out pretty good. and if u know anything about john wall you know he is well worth it even if he does leave.KU next year without wall- sweet 16 maybe elite 8. with wall- final four maybe NC

Topside 12 years, 1 month ago

What is with all the "we don't need a one-and done" crap. The last two good one and done players beat us in the championship game and ALMOST beat us in the other. I'll take a good one and done ocassionally. Sounds like a lot of folks have made up their minds he's not coming here so are trying to prepare themselves mentally. That's ok.

Jonathan Allison 12 years, 1 month ago

Cole is gonna eat Colorado's lunch on Saturday.And I definitely like that coach Self is telling John Wall that he's "going to have to work for everything." First of all, it's true. No one who comes to KU is guaranteed to start as a freshman. Second of all, Wall should see this as a challenge. If he wants to better prepare himself for the pro game, then he should want to come to KU and compete at a high level everyday in practice and also compete against the best guards in the Big XII. Self is a very friendly but very honest person, and Wall should trust what Self is telling him. John Wall should be watching this KU team. He must notice that he will be competing for playing time against guys who give maximum effort (Tyshawn Taylor) and make few mistakes (Brady Morningstar). Coach Self employs somewhat of an old school philosophy when he distributes playing time. It must be earned.

jayhawkinATL 12 years, 1 month ago

I don't have a major issue with the "one-and-done"'s the sense of entitlement that seems to be coming from this kid. What??? Is he afraid of hard work??? Give me a friggin' break!!!

klineisanazi 12 years, 1 month ago

  1. Almost all of the elite players "think" they are one-and-dones. Get used to it if you want KU to compete for a NC. If your goal is beating KSU and getting to the Sweet 16 occasionally , then by all means, don't recruit the elite players. By the way, Rush was gone had he not been injured. No Rush, no championship. Didn't see him sweating about KU getting a ring. This is not to down Rush. But this is how these guys think. College is a stop along the way to getting paid to play in the NBA. It is the coaches and fans that worry about the banners.2 What Topside said. You telling me you wouldn't take Anthony or Rose?

FairgroveJayhawk 12 years, 1 month ago

Humor moment: Marcus is getting his backside chewed by Self quite intensly, directly following Marcus has the freshman capacity to talk back. He was promptly benched and didn't see playing time until the second half, after which he played better. He was awarded 7 big minutes for his mouth.Humor moment: ESPN anouncer refers to cookie miller's actions as... he is just acting like a punk... and refers to him as the smallest guy on the court with the biggest attitude. I can see miller in an orange jump suit with some gold in his grill. With a name like "cookie" life must be rough. Can we add a twelve inch clock around his neck and put him in a rap video?Cole blew against NU. I was waiting to hear he was battling the flu or something. It was a good game for other players to have the opportunity to step up and Reed did; Morningstar is always at that level but he did get to show off his scoring potential. This game was ugly and it will help to make a well rounded team in the long run. KU showed good grit to win, earlier in the year they would have lost this game. If they had this grit as a team early on, they would not have lost to umASS or Arizona. I see KU pounding the buffs Saturday.Rock Chalk

kvskubball 12 years, 1 month ago

I wonder how many will sing a new song if he decides to come to KU???

RyanHawk 12 years, 1 month ago

Julian Wright was one and done if anybody remembers him!! Not that he helped the team a lot but "delo" was asking if we have ever had a one and done. We need Wall next year if Sherron leaves! This comment means to me that if Sherron leaves he is coming to KU because he doesn't want to compete with Sherron. If Sherron stays he is going to Memphis were he doesn't have to compete. I have a really good feeling about KU's chances with Wall. I think he wants to come to KU but he wants to play a lot and go to the NBA after one year. We need to sprinkle in one and done type players if we want to win National Titles!

RyanHawk 12 years, 1 month ago

Just looked it up I guess Julian Wright left after his 2nd year SORRY, I thought he left as a freshman.

Rick Arnoldy 12 years, 1 month ago

One and dones are the reality now a days. A lot of teams have had success with them, particularly against us. I'd rather play them than face them. I've also seen a lot of self proclaimed one-and-dones hang around a couple more years after the reality of not playing against high school competition any more hits them.

Joe Joseph 12 years, 1 month ago

If John Wall improves KU's chances of winning the national title next year, then who gives a flying pancake if he's a one-and-done player. If John Wall is truly a Derick Rose type of player, you are kidding yourself when saying, 'Kansas is better off with out him.' Come to KU John.

yates33333 12 years, 1 month ago

Self is a good recruiter. He knows what is best for his team concerning Wall. I hope he gets a first class power forward. We need one. Maybe Withey and Aldrich can fill the bill by playing at the same time. Maybe.Last night Self proved he is a masterful floor coach. He adjusted a bad first half scheme, and it proved a winner.

63Jayhawk 12 years, 1 month ago

If Bill Self puts effort into recruiting a player, then I hope the player decides to come to KU. It appears that Coach Self has put significant effort into recruiting John Wall. I like Coach Self's apparent honesty and I trust his judgment.Recruiting and planning for your basketball team's future must be a coach's nightmare. Without knowing how long a player will stay, with limited scholarships, and with high school players being offered and accepting scholarships at younger and younger ages, how can a coach possibly plan for his team one, two or three years out? The bottom line is that I appreciate the job that Coach Self is doing. I always look forward to watching the games on TV. It is my favorite entertainment.

kcmostwanted 12 years, 1 month ago

Believe me when I say that we need JOHN WALL!!!... especially if Sherron Leaves! His speed, quickness, athleticism and vision is off the charts... I mean his athleticism is equivalent to Derrick Rose (though he's probably not as strong), probably a better pure passer and he's even taller/longer than Derrick. I think he notices that TT is getting lots of playing time this year as a true Frosh and IF Sherron leaves, he could get 30 min/gm next year too.If Sherron leaves and Wall comes here, Imagine how athletic our guards can be...Tyshawn Taylor... Elijah Johnson... John Wall...and a healthy Mario Little..ZoomZoom!!!!

Jaminrawk 12 years, 1 month ago

Calapari will say anything to recruits to get them to go to Memphis. I like that Self actually has standards. Damn right you need to earn your time on the court. When you are pushed, you elevate your game.

milehighhawk 12 years, 1 month ago

Okay, everyone who is saying we don't need Wall: shut up, you don't know what you're talking about.Others have brought it up already, but it's beyond idiotic to think that just because some high school kid answered "probably" to the question of if he's gonna be one and done that he's definitely going to the league after his freshman year....Brandon Rush, Darrell Arthur, etc.We won it last year with a combination of league-ready talent and four-year guys. I'm guessing John Wall would be a greatly welcomed piece of the puzzle once folks see him rocking a Jayhawk jersey.

Michael Auchard 12 years, 1 month ago

Didn't everyone think B. Rush was one and done, too? Yeah, we don't need players like that. Some of you guys are idiots and I'm not sorry to say it. Times have changed, dinosaurs. Times have changed.

hometownhawk 12 years, 1 month ago

My take on the situation is this: if Sherron stays, we have one of the best if not the best point guard in the country returning -- best case scenario. If Sherron leaves we have a very good shot at landing Wall -- very very nice scenario.And anyone who claims to not be interested in "one-and-done" players is basically saying that they're not interested in ever getting a top 10 recruit again. Good plan. Don't blame the kid; blame the system. You want the very best players on your team. Period. Bill has said it time and time again, and still people can't grasp the concept. It doesn't make the kid selfish-- just realistic.

zissou 12 years, 1 month ago

When Wall finishes using KU as a tool to garner more hype (Cheek, Henry, Stephenson) and announces that he's going to Duke, Baylor or NC State, how many of these same posters will denounce him as a fraud, a selfish player, a generally bad person? How many will lament that Bill has again played the role of the bridesmaid? Until then, I'll be watching in the wings, hoping against hope that we land Wall but mostly waiting to see the fallout from fickle fans who lose faith over such things.

Jaydub 12 years, 1 month ago

This Bill Self guy knows what he is doing. If Self wants him then so do I. Stop bad mouthing the recruits.

Lin Rahardja 12 years, 1 month ago

If John Wall is really that good and mature, why can't he play one year for KU? He can take one year at a time, and leave when the time is right for him. Let him and coach Self decide.In reality, with Sheron's possibility leaving to the NBA, he will have more chance to contribute at KU than Memphis due to the fact that Memphis already has Henry's brothers and Tyreke Evans. All three of them will demand the rock to keep them happy at the same time. You can't have four guys shooting the ball, or dribble and drive at the same time. You're smart enough to know this.

Godisajayhawk 12 years, 1 month ago

All you anti-John Wallers are, as has been noted by some, absurd. The fact that he answers a question honestly rather than skirting around it makes him no less of a player or a person. A lot of elite talents, especially after the age limit was implemented for the NBA, plan on going to college for one year and heading to the league to make money. Especially as a high school senior, the choice does not seem particularly difficult. It then becomes a matter of their play, their coaching, their evaluations, and in some cases, their college experience that dictates whether or not they feel the same after playing their freshman season. But, also like others have said, if Bill Self wants John Wall, then we want John Wall. It's truly that simple. Even when people would grant him nothing else, most people will admit that Mr. Self knows what he is doing when it comes to recruiting. Please let him recruit as he sees fit and enjoy the ride when we have some of the best players in the country to watch.

actorman 12 years, 1 month ago

"When Wall finishes using KU as a tool to garner more hype ..."Why is it that every time an elite player picks a school other than KU, that means he was just using KU??? I'm as biased towards KU as everyone else, but that's just ridiculous. There could be many reasons that someone picks a different school. As great as KU is, it is not the ONLY place that is worth going to.Well said, Godis. The idiotic NBA rule is a big part of the problem of having so many one-and-done players. If they actually allowed players to be able to make an adult decision (at, you know, the adult age of 18) and choose for themselves whether to go to the Association right out of high school, then there would hardly be any one-and-doners.

jasonsgill 12 years, 1 month ago

If a player wants to be one-and-done, I think they would pick Memphis over KU every time. Calipari is much more willing to use a system that highlights offensive talent, while Self is more of a coach who will develop NBA skills in players over time.

emjhawk04 12 years, 1 month ago

Just because the kid is possibly a one and done player doesn't mean he's not a team player. I don't care if he's one and done, Wall's skill set is phenomenal and I'd love to have him on KU next year. Any KU fan that says we don't need him is full of know you'd welcome him with open arms if he were to choose KU.

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darnelljackson32 12 years, 1 month ago

DONT PAY ATTENTION TO THE WALL STORY!! IT IS TAKEN FROM AN ARTICLE IN SEPTEMBER!!!!!!!!This is the worst, most unprofessional move I have seen a writer try to pull off. Gary Bedore has no shame. essentially everything that was said by Wall has no relavancy. This was before we had even signed Elijah Johnson. These quotes are way out of context and should be ignored

darnelljackson32 12 years, 1 month ago

Also, don't forget that this was before Xavier Henry signed with Memphis. Gary Bedore tried to pull a fast one on me and it didn't work. Shame on all of you guys for falling for this "story". I have lost any respect that I might have had for Gary Bedore.

vmwskywalk 12 years, 1 month ago

If it's true that Wall sought out Coach Self and shook his hand in Springfield, I have to believe that he not only respects Coach Self, but is looking very seriously at attending KU. I think that they have a very good relationship and Wall knows that Self wants him to be a Jayhawk. That may very well have been the problem with the previous recruits. John Wall may have been the main target all along and HCBS could never commit 100% to any of the others. I love it. I think that we are "all in" on Wall and he knows it. When it comes to what kind of person Wall is, the more I read about the kid the better a fit I think he is. That was not the case with the others, especially Henry. The easy road does not always lead to prosperity. KU is not the easy road.

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zissou 12 years, 1 month ago

"When Wall finishes using KU as a tool to garner more hype ..."I meant that comment more tongue-in-cheek than I think it came off. I've heard that line from multiple KU fans who follow this stuff much more closely than I do (which isn't saying much). I doubt that many recruits have ever actually used KU as a tool, but that's what those "fans" tend to think every time a top recruit chooses someone else.

Matt Bowers 12 years, 1 month ago

zissou is right about KU needing and wanting Wall. So what if he is one and done, I want him to spend his career at Kansas and help us win another title. Don't think for one second that the naysayers won't be screaming for joy if he makes the right decision and comes to Kansas. If Kansas gets Wall and only loses Collins or keeps everyone, does anyone have any idea how good we will be? We will have two of the most capable big men in the game, the best back court, and the deepest bench. Don't tell me you don't want Wall, you are living in never never land or somewhere in outer space. This isn't personal, its just business.Rock Chalk

5a5quatch 12 years, 1 month ago

Anyone who thinks KU should blindly avoid 1-and-dones is foolish. There is nothing wrong with recruiting elite talent, people!I don't know what kind of person Wall is, but I do know that Coach Self will teach him how play basketball the right way, offense and defense, and will be a great mentor and leader on and off the court. If he wants to be a part of something bigger than himself, something that will last a lifetime, even if he's only here a year, he will should come to Kansas. If he wants to be told what he wants to hear, and play in a nothing conference at a nothing basketball school (once Calipari leaves), he should go to Memphis.

Jesse Newell 12 years, 1 month ago

darnelljackson32 — I talked to Gary and he said he saw a link to the story on the Internet. He thought it was a new story and didn't notice the date on the article.There was no malicious intent, as you imply.Jesse online editor

bentleytigers 12 years, 1 month ago

Hello, everyone.. Memphis Tiger fan here. just wanted to stop by and shed some light on this conversation. For everyone holding there breaths on John wall's decision, let me help you.. It will be the same heartbreak you felt with Henry, he wants to be a star, a first round pick a top ten for that matter. Self is a very good coach but Cal is the MAN. The year of the big name school is coming to an end. Kids go to those schools and only the schools get richer. Can u blame a kid for going to Memphis (best of both worlds)? You heard it from Bentleytiger on Jan. 29th, John Wall is waiting on Tyreke to declare for the draft and he and Cousins will sign with Memphis. See you guys in Kansas City next year, if your coach agrees to play.

kranny 12 years, 1 month ago

Bentleytigers' comment is exactly the reason why Memphis and Calipari won't win a championship- no continuity, broken pipe dream promises and Calipari won't be there in two years.

vmwskywalk 12 years, 1 month ago

I guess Memphis fans have to go to other teams sites for news.

Tony Bandle 12 years, 1 month ago

bentleytigersWelcome to the KU website. Please give us all a first hand description as your National Championship slowly slipped through your fingertips. Please describe your emotions as hope oozed out of you as foul shot after foul shot clanged off the rim. What did it feel like to have that three pointer stab you through the heart.You may indeed reach the promised land but 100 Walls and 100 Henry's will never bring back the NC you gave away.And Calipari..he may be a good coach, he may be a great coach, he may even be a better coach than Bill Self. But the Man?? Calipari was, is and always will be a con man of the highest magnitude.I have erred, sinned and made stupid mistakes all my life but I take comfort in my school, I take comfort with my country and, no matter how badly I have performed, I take comfort in the fact that I will never have to live in Memphis.Have a nice day!!!

Tony Bandle 12 years, 1 month ago

John Wall would be an outstanding "get" for KU. We'd have to wait and see if the one and done decision, made by an eighteen still living at home, holds water after being out on his own experiencing life.If he doesn't come, well, the cupboard isn't exactly bare. Taylor, Johnson, Morningstar, Reed, Little, Releford isn't too shabby a rotation especially if they all continue to improve and Johnson is as good as he appears to be and Little hits 100%.I am excited about the big men..Cole, Jeff, M and M, Mr.Robinson [just wait to you see this kid]. The KU front line rotation will truly be awesome.There is a logical chance that Bill could go eleven deep next year. Reminds me of the year way back when Dean Smith at NC has a red team, a white team and a blue team, fifteen players, and he rotate them in by squad. [He choked that year too}

bentleytigers 12 years, 1 month ago

No need to bring up our gift that we handed you guys last And I have plenty of sources for my news. I just wanted to impart some of it on the great fans of KU.. And Cal will be in Memphis until 2013, Mike Rose's check book says so, by then he can leave because we will have just as many NCs as the GREAT KU.. TWO.. By the way, if you know who W.W.W. is you will know that my info, is solid..And Cal is a sales man not a con man..By the way, KU admin. would jump at the chance to have Cal as there coach. Actually, after you know who left KU, a call was made to gage interest from Cal. Mmm, check your sources mine are solid..

5a5quatch 12 years, 1 month ago

bentley, at least get your facts straight...KU has won 3 national championships in the NCAA tournament era ('52, '88, '08), and won two Helms National Championships ('22, '23) before then.BTW, there is nobody that the KU admin or fans would have coaching our team than Coach Self. You are delusional if you think we'd prefer Cal. Maybe you meant if Self left...even then, I doubt it, although Cal would be putting the KU feelers out.I'll agree with you on one point: I don't think Wall is coming to KU. No info, just a gut feeling based on the way he's drawing this out.Go back to beating up on UAB, Marshall and Rice.

Tony Bandle 12 years, 1 month ago

Bentley...I'm afraid I have to agree with you on Wall...I never really thought we had a strong chance for him although he would be a great player. I'll guess we'll leave it at Memphis leads in one and dones and KU leads in National Championships.I do think it's only fair to point out that Memphis has a tradition as well and has been to the show as well as played in a league that included Louisville and Cincinnati. It's a shame that an obviously very good team is devalued because of the crap conference they are in. It would be fun to see Memphis in the Big Twelve. Oh well, we've beat this to death.

jchief40 12 years, 1 month ago

I like Gary Gedore. He just made a small error. We are still in the running for Wall still. All I know is we need a contract put on WWW.

COjayrocks 12 years, 1 month ago

bentleytigers-If it weren't for KU, Memphis fans would not even know the name Calipari. He got his coaching break from Ted Owens and Larry at KU, and you are crazy if you don't think he'd come here given the chance. He has even said that publically! But we are content with Self, and will be for a long time. Also, It often helps to check your facts before you post so you don't look like another person that has failed to graduate from there. How many players dream of playing for Conference USA when they are shooting baskets as a kid--zero.

bentleytigers 12 years, 1 month ago

COjayrocksI need you to think about the fact that some kids grow up in Memphis and idolize guys like Penny Hardaway.. No one wants to be like Danny Manning anymore, who else from KU has made a difference in the NBA in the past 20 years..I'm waiting... No one.. Big name schools for the most part put out good role players, kids these days don't want to be a role player like Mario Chalmers, Brandon Rush, and Darrell Authur. Mind you these are all good players but they were McDonald's All Americans. Cal turns top 150 recruits into NBA role player, so that makes these guys underachievers...See Derrick Rose, and Tyreke (next year) will be a top ten pick..And you don't have to insult my intelligence. I'm a J.D. candidate. Just friendly conversation, and informing KU fans to enjoy the gift we gave you because it will be another 20 years before you get another one..Self needs to start recruiting like he did at IU.

KanKu 12 years, 1 month ago

"who else from KU has made a difference in the NBA in the past 20 years..I'm waiting... No one.."2008 NBA Finals MVP Paul Pierce....yeah....he went to KU for 3 years....meathead.

bentleytigers 12 years, 1 month ago

Yeah, I forgot about Pierce.. he's a great player when he has two Hall of Famers on his team..

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