nebraska_jayhawk (anonymous) says...

I know they had originally cleared Arthur of wrongdoing, but I suppose he is being investigated again? If he is found to be ineligble, do you still think they'll take away KU's championship?

February 20, 2009 at 8:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

lonestarjayhawk (anonymous) says...

Neb_Hawk, this would be a long drawn out process if it does happen. The reality is remote because the NCAA would have to admit it made a mistake. How so, well all players register with the clearinghouse which is run by the NCAA. The clearinghouse is suppose to look at discrepencies in transcripts and test scores and challenge or investigate those instances. It could happen, but it would be a long drawn out process.

February 20, 2009 at 8:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

railer1122 (anonymous) says...

I doubt our national championship would not be taken away. It would be NCAA's fault in the first place, not KU's.

February 20, 2009 at 8:29 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

blowhard (anonymous) says...

Arthur was ruled eligible by the NCAA Clearinghouse, case closed. No problem other than the internal workings of the Dallas Public School System and some hard-up TV station desperate for a story to boost ratings appear at odds with each other.

February 20, 2009 at 8:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

jedarchul (anonymous) says...

There cannot and will not be any actions against any universities regarding these findings. The universities' obligations to "investigate" student athletes' eligibility begins and ends with the NCAA Clearinghouse process. The high school may be forced to forfeit titles, etc but there will be no retribution for colleges.

February 20, 2009 at 9:51 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

HowMuchRice (anonymous) says...

Where there's a ton of smoke, there's fire. I think the TV station is doing a public service by uncovering tons of corruption in the DISD. And like it or not, Darrell Arthur benefited from cheating that helped him gain eligibility.

That said, KU's not at fault here and won't lose anything.

February 20, 2009 at 10:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

cap10d (anonymous) says...

Yes there was speculation Arthur benefited, but it could never be proven. Dont call the guy a cheater unless you know the facts or its actually true...................

February 20, 2009 at 11:20 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

KEITHMILES05 (anonymous) says...

Arthur said he was going to take legal action against the teacher/coach who said thing untrue things about him. I hope he does.

February 20, 2009 at 11:28 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

archercc (anonymous) says...

I dont think taking away the championship would be possible because we could only lose the games he was not eligible in. Once he passes his first semester of classes he's legal. So after that first semester of his freshman year its all clear.

February 20, 2009 at 1:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

JayhawkPurist (anonymous) says...

Let's move on to a relevant topic:

The Washington Post recently published an article that contained a quote from Stephenson's father, who commented on how Stephenson is looking to get away from NYC because the fans there "only want to see a show every night," and that Lance wants to go to a place where he's warmly supported in all facets of life.

Stephenson has been knocked for his attitude in the past, but I'm starting to think KU could be a terrific place for him to grow -- not only as a basketball player, but as a man. So for those of you who will be at the game tomorrow, please show him some of that fabled Kansas warmth.

February 20, 2009 at 1:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

dallasmd (anonymous) says...

HowmuchRice is exactly right.

The DISD is tainted by corruption, and this is yet another episode in its sorry history.

As a Dallas resident (who thankfully lives in a school district other than DISD) I enjoy seeing stories such as this, and they are locally useful.

Their was a weak attempt early on to attach this investigation to KU, as DA was playing here, and KU had just won the championship. But this will never be a KU issue.

It is, however, an important local issue.

And Blowhard, the station that aired this report is hardly, "some hard-up TV station desperate for a story to boost ratings." Locally, they are far and away the ratings leader for news. They are the only station that continues to do investigative reporting, setting themselves apart from their competition, and the reporter in this instance, Brett Shipp, has won awards for his investigative reporting. I've yet to see him bring a story to light that did not have legs, and in fact, he has reported several stories that had significant implications, such as the DISD employee credit card fraud story of a few years ago (district employees using district credit cards to make personal purchases).

I see why it would be easy, as a KU fan, to vilify the station, but unless you reside in Dallas, and see the story for what it is, and know the history of the DISD, you can't possibly know the local implications and the importance of this story.

February 20, 2009 at 2:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

dagger108 (anonymous) says...

JayhawkPurist - Wouldn't it be nice to introduce the next New York, new york.

Obviously, he is not RR, but traditions can remain while the players change. It would even be a bit of tribute to RR as the first Mr. New York, new york!

i wonder if any fans will pick up on that as a way of welcoming him Saturday. I think it could go a long way to bringing another McD to campus.

February 20, 2009 at 3:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

mvjayhawk (anonymous) says...

dallasmd

sounds like you have the pulse of it for sure. South Oak Cliff has already had championships taken away, so if this goes deeper it should be investigated no doubt.

KU is really not in any trouble here. Remember, it came down to Baylor and KU for Arthur's services....so Baylor would have known the same thing we did. He was fine academically at Kansas so there's no trouble for KU at all.

Sounds like the DISD has some real issues.

February 20, 2009 at 3:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

100 (anonymous) says...

This wouldn't be NCAAs fault at all. As far as they knew, Arthur was smart enough to come. (recall Arthur is suing too so he has a beef too) It's their teachers who would be in trouble, and the school, and the district. And Arthur passed all tests required.

Case was closed for us a long time ago.

February 20, 2009 at 9:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

jayhawkintx73 (anonymous) says...

To claim that Shipp is good just because he has won rewards is like saying Hugo Chavez is great because he won a Nobel Peace Prize. That is correct, Hugo Chavez won a Nobel Peace Prize and he's a tyrannical dictator.

February 20, 2009 at 9:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ohioburg (anonymous) says...

Is it TV sweeps month again already?

February 20, 2009 at 11:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

dallasmd (anonymous) says...

jayhawkintx73-

I'm sorry, did I read your post incorrectly? Did you use "Shipp" and "Hugo Chavez" in the same sentence? A local investigative reported compared to an idiotic dictator?

Wow- talk about a quantum leap.

I believe he's great, based on watching his investigative reports. That would make me a biased observer. In offering up the fact that he's won awards, I was attempting to offer some data/support for what amounts to my opinion.

Do you have any support, besides an idiotic analogy, that he's not good? If so, please provide it.

Besides, they'll give a Nobel Prize to just about anyone- Arafat, Gore, etc.

February 21, 2009 at 8:42 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

mwrtafox (anonymous) says...

If people really thought this was an ongoing issue, wouldn't Baylor suspend Rogers immediately? Baylor relied on the NCAA Clearinghouse just like KU did; obviously, they feel that they are in the clear on this.

February 21, 2009 at 12:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

100 (anonymous) says...

It's not KU's, nor the NCAA's job to see if a prospective high school player's coach/ teacher cheated. KU is in the clear. The NCAA is in the clear. And honestly, it sounds like Arthur is in the clear -- he passed all required tests to get into college, did well in college for 2 years, and is suing the high school.

Even if anything was ever proven, it's the high school who will be reprimanded. A few teachers will lose jobs. Their school board will look to rewrite rules.

But KU and the NCAA are in the clear. This is a high school community's situation. Not ours.

February 21, 2009 at 12:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )