Originally published February 14, 2009 at 12:59p.m., updated February 14, 2009 at 10:53p.m.

FINAL: Aldrich’s 21 points lead KU to 85-74 victory over KSU

KU's Cole Aldrich dunks on K-State on Saturday, Feb. 14, 2009 at Bramlage Coliseum in Manhattan.

KU's Cole Aldrich dunks on K-State on Saturday, Feb. 14, 2009 at Bramlage Coliseum in Manhattan.


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2009 KU-KSU Feb. 14

Reader poll

Who gets the gameball after the Jayhawks' 85-74 victory over Kansas State?

  • Brady Morningstar 7% 44 votes
  • Sherron Collins 2% 13 votes
  • Cole Aldrich 39% 249 votes
  • Other 0% 3 votes
  • Marcus Morris 50% 318 votes

627 total votes.

Reader poll

Who was KU's first-half MVP against K-State?

  • Brady Morningstar 26% 64 votes
  • Marcus Morris 58% 142 votes
  • Sherron Collins 2% 5 votes
  • Cole Aldrich 13% 32 votes
  • Other 0% 1 vote

244 total votes.

Reader poll

What do you think is the biggest key for KU against K-State?

  • Get Cole Aldrich the ball 59% 44 votes
  • Get Sherron Collins going 28% 21 votes
  • Limit Denis Clemente on defense 8% 6 votes
  • Limit Jacob Pullen on defense 4% 3 votes

74 total votes.

FINAL: KU defeats KSU, 85-74

Collins hits one free throw to seal it, and KU comes away with the 11-point victory. Collins tosses the ball in the air at the buzzer before smiling and waving his arms at some of the KSU fans. They respond by throwing some paper and trash on the floor.

KU scoring

Aldrich 21, Collins 19, Marcus Morris 15, Morningstar 12, Reed 7, Releford 4, Taylor 4, Markieff Morris 2, Thomas 1.

KU was 25-for-44 from the floor (56.2 percent), 8-for-12 from three (66.7 percent) and 27-for-35 from the free-throw line (77.4 percent).

KSU was 25-for-59 from the floor (42.2 percent), 8-for-19 from three (42.4 percent) and 16-for-26 from the free-throw line (61.4 percent).

KSU out-rebounded KU, 29-27. KU had 16 turnovers to KSU’s 12.

KU 84/KSU 74 — 11.6 seconds left in game

Kent gets a turn-around to cut the lead to two, but Aldrich answers with a lay-in of his own.

Morningstar fouls out with 2:07 left. He was sixth in the conference in least fouls per game, averaging just 2.06 whistles per 40 minutes.

Pullen gets two free throws, but KU attacks the press well. Aldrich misses a short shot, but Marcus Morris follows with the rebound and stickback.

Taylor fouls out at the 1:46 mark. The officials are calling all the hand-checks now. How will KU respond without two if its best ball-handlers in there?

Travis Releford is in there instead of Little, and he clanks two free throws. Releford was just 11-for-23 from the line before those shots.

Clemente misses a floater, and Reed rips down the rebound before getting hacked. He makes both free throws.

KSU travels on the other end, and time is running out on the Wildcats’ hopes of a comeback. Marcus Morris makes two free throws, and the lead is back up to 10.

Releford stays in, and after getting fouled, he makes his next two free throws.

KU 72/KSU 68 — 3:59 left in game

Marcus Morris gets a steal, but Reed turns it over on the other end trying a behind-the-back dribble. The Jayhawks are being attacked instead of attacking.

Collins gets double-teamed and immediately tucks the ball. Two KSU players reach in for a jump ball. KU has to stop playing scared.

Pullen hits a three and gets fouled by Morningstar, and just like that, KU’s big lead has evaporated. Timeout Jayhawks, who have had their lead cut to two.

KU once again has found Aldrich. Twice KU lobs it inside, and Aldrich gets two free throws and also a three-point play out of it. The center is pumped, too, chest-bumping Collins afterwards.

KU 65/KSU 59 — 6:51 left in game

Self had Tyrone Appleton sitting at the scorer’s table waiting to check in for Taylor, but the officials didn’t see him. Seconds later, Taylor picked up his fourth foul, and Self was irate that Appleton wasn’t able to check in to save Taylor’s fourth foul.

This is the point in the MU game where KU stopped attacking offensively. The Jayhawks can’t afford to do that here. A layup by Kent, and KSU has trimmed the lead down to six.

Morningstar gets a turnover, but up eight, Collins jacks up a quick three. Self pushes his temples with both hands. Bad shot by KU's leader.

KU 61/KSU 51 — 11:37 left in game

Crucial mistake by Clemente, who picks up a technical foul. KSU loses possession, and Collins hits two free throws. Reed follows with a three after the foul shots, and KU gets a free five points courtesy of the K-State guard.

Collins follows with a deep three, and KU takes a 10-point lead at 61-51. The technical has swung the momentum towards the Jayhawks.

KU 53/KSU 49 — 14:06 left in game

Morningstar buries another big three for KU. He’s 4-for-4 from deep, and KU’s tied it again at 49.

The Jayhawks go back to the Triangle-and-2, and KSU looks a little confused on how to attack it, finally forcing up a bad shot.

A strong drive from Marcus Morris nets him two free throws, and he hits both.

The next possession, Aldrich throws down an alley-oop, and the Jayhawks have a 9-0 run.

KSU 49/KU 46 — 15:53 left in game

It seems like this happens every second half, but KU immediately feeds Aldrich in the post, and he hits a turn-around to give KU a one-point lead.

Clemente burns Taylor on a drive to cap a 6-0 KSU run, but KU dumps it back inside to Aldrich to get two of its own.

The game is starting to resemble a sloppy bar fight. Both teams are scrapping for loose balls, and the fans are getting fired up at every non-call.

KU scoring

Collins 9, Morningstar 9, Marcus Morris 9, Aldrich 8, Markieff Morris 2, Taylor 2, Releford 2, Thomas 1.

KU was 16-for-28 from the floor (57.1 percent), 5-for-8 from three (62.5 percent) and 5-for-10 from the free-throw line (50 percent).

KSU was 14-for-31 from the floor (45.2 percent), 7-for-10 from three (70 percent) and 8-for-10 from the free-throw line (80 percent).

Quick halftime thoughts

What an unexpected boost by Marcus Morris. Nine points, three assists, one steal and no turnovers in nine minutes. If KU wins, it will be because of his final four minutes of the first half.

Clemente looked great in the first half. Confident and fast, KU tried a ton of different defenses to stop him, and not much worked. We'll see how the Jayhawks line up against him in the second half.

Let's not forget about Morningstar's contributions, either. Nine points, 3-for-3 from three with a steal and turnover in 17 minutes.

KSU 43/KU 42 — Halftime

Marcus Morris has picked the Jayhawks up and is carrying them. He gets two consecutive steals, slapping the ball away from KSU’s guards. The steals lead to fast-break layups for Tyshawn Taylor and Sherron Collins.

Marcus Morris cleans up the next defensive rebound, and Aldrich hits a pair of free throws to make it a three-point game.

After another KSU miss, Marcus doesn’t hesitate with a three-pointer from the top, and he drains it. The big man is playing with some confidence now. Quick 11-0 run for KU, and the game is suddenly tied at 38.

Pullen breaks the KSU drought, hitting a huge three. The Wildcats are shooting 77.8 percent from three (7-for-9).

Collins drives on KU’s last possession, finding Morningstar in the corner for a three just before the buzzer.

And after all that, the Jayhawks are down just one at the break.

KSU 38/KU 29 — 3:32 left in 1st half

Marcus Morris checks back in, and instead of fading away, he makes a move toward the basket and scores. That was the best (and strongest) move he’s had today.

Another nice play by Marcus, who used a shake-and-bake move on the baseline to draw two defenders before dishing to Aldrich for a slam.

Clemente hits another three (KSU is 6-for-8 from three) but Collins answers with a trey of his own.

KU looks to be settling down offensively. The passes are better, and KSU’s defense seems to have let up just a little bit with a big lead.

Marcus Morris comes through again, rebounding a Morningstar three and putting it back in. KU has trimmed the lead to 34-26, and KSU coach Frank Martin calls timeout.

It looks like KU has gone to a Triangle-and-2 defense. Clemente still drives around it, banking one off the glass for two. Clemente has 16 points on 6-for-9 shooting.

KSU 30/KU 17 — 7:42 left in 1st half

Travis Releford breaks KU’s scoreless streak with a layup, but Clemente follows with a three. KSU is 4-for-5 from three-point range.

Clemente curls around another screen and hits a three. It seems like he’s shooting it before even looking up at the basket. He’s 3-for-5 from deep, and now the Wildcats are 5-for-7. Self uses his third timeout.

More turnovers for KU. Collins loses it, and Pullen turns it into a layup. Releford’s pass is swatted away, and the Jayhawks are up to five turnovers.

Quintrell Thomas is in, and he makes one of two free throws after getting fouled.

Tyrone Appleton checks in for Collins. This is reminiscent of the Michigan State game where Self is trying everything and everyone.

With a weak offensive lineup on the court, Brady Morningstar curls around a screen and hits a three. He seems to know just when KU needs him to score.

KSU 20/KU 11 — 11:52 left in 1st half

Both teams settle down defensively. Markieff Morris misses a pair of free throws for KU, and after getting a nice feed inside, he gets blocked from behind by Jamar Samuels. Markieff needed to try to dunk that one in traffic, but his timidness costs the Jayhawks.

Denis Clemente hits a three on the other end, and Self gets a timeout.

A layup by Fred Brown followed by a lay-in and foul by Dominique Sutton, and Self is forced to use another timeout. That’s a 10-0 run for KSU, and the Jayhawks haven’t scored in the last 4:16.

KU 11/KSU 10 — 15:34 left in 1st half

Sherron Collins starts strong, driving in before banking a shot off the glass and in.

Jacob Pullen responds, though, knocking in a pair of deep three-point attempts. He had 20 points last year against KU in Bramlage, and he’s off to a good shooting start so far.

Not much defense early on from either team. KSU has done a good job of recognizing the mismatch of Mario Little guarding Darren Kent. Kent has been able to easily back down Little toward the basket in the earlygoing.

2:28 p.m.

Bill Walker is here. No sign of Michael Beasley that I've seen.

2:10 p.m.

One thing to keep an eye on in this game will be the how the game is called from an officiating standpoint.

The more closely the game is called, the better chance KU has of winning.

KSU is known for its pressure defense, which forces teams into turnovers and also out of their offensive sets. Obviously, a high number of hand-checks would limit how hard KSU could pressure the ball.

Also, though the Wildcats have played much better defense lately, they still have been unable to keep opposing teams off the free-throw line.

In fact, the following are the number of free throws opponents have shot against KSU in conference play:

Oklahoma — 21

Kansas — 37

Nebraska — 18

Baylor — 18

Colorado — 30

Missouri — 21

Texas — 39

Iowa State — 14

Texas A&M; — 30

Texas Tech — 27

In Big 12 play, KSU’s opponents have averaged 25.5 free throws per game. For comparison purposes, KU has been a relatively foul-prone team as well, but in conference play, the Jayhawks have only allowed 20.7 opponent free throws per game.

So how can KU exploit this? The best way would be to get the ball in the hands of its playmakers. Statistically, Sherron Collins (4.9 fouls drawn/40 minutes) and Cole Aldrich (4.8 fouls drawn/40 minutes) are two of the Jayhawks’ top three foul-drawers.

Marcus Morris is tops on the team (5.5 fouls drawn/40 minutes).

Anyways, I’m thinking if you’re a KU fan, you should be cheering for both the Jayhawks and also for a lot of whistles.

1:20 p.m.

A few minutes ago, KSU coach Frank Martin came onto the court to talk to the students. After saying, "We have the best student fans in the country," he said that the fans needed to do two things today:

• "Show the whole country who has the best home-court advantage in the United States of America."

• "Let's join hands and get a win."

KU is shooting around in front of me, which has brought out the chants.

One of the loud ones was "El-e-va-tor!" directed at Sherron Collins, who laughed it off.

The next one was "Sex of-fend-er!" once again directed at Collins.

1 p.m.

Welcome back to the Newell Post Live, coming to you from Bramlage Coliseum in Manhattan where the 16th-ranked Kansas Jayhawks are getting set to take on the Kansas State Wildcats.

I was going to start this blog with a statistical analysis, but that was before Gary Bedore, 6Sports' Andrew Baker and I pulled up to Bramlage in our "6News Lawrence" Jeep.

We passed hundreds and hundreds of KSU students, lined up waiting to get into the building.

When we parked about 200 feet away, we figured we were safe.

We were wrong.

I took one step out of the vehicle when I heard a chorus of boos from the students far away. They must be mad about something, I thought.

I looked up to see where their anger was directed at.

Turned out it was me.

Seeing "Lawrence" on the Jeep was all the students needed. Soon, 200-300 students were booing us and heckling us as we made our way toward Bramlage Coliseum (If I'm getting this right, Me=Lawrence=KU=Bad. Did I do my math correctly?) That included the line of the day: "Nice khakis, D-Bag!"

"I think he's talking to you," Andrew said with a smirk.

I've never been to Bramlage for a KU-KSU basketball game. At the same time, I went to KU, so I know kind of how these rivalries have gone.

I will say this: MU is KU's biggest rival. Both teams have a mutual dislike for each other that goes back more than a century.

I also will say this, though: Anyone expecting it to be easier for KU to play at Bramlage today than it was to play at Mizzou Arena on Monday is very, very wrong.

From being here 10 minutes, I will tell you that this crowd will be better, louder and more desperate to win than MU's.

If the fans here see a KU trainer walking on the court, they all boo. If they see one student wearing red in the student section, they all boo. If they see a media member leaving a vehicle with the word "Lawrence" on it, they all boo.

Through 20 minutes, I would say the hatred here for KU surpasses the hatred I saw in Columbia, Mo.

That surprised me.

Get used to it, KU fans. As long as KSU has a competitive basketball team and the fans are interested like they are today, the Jayhawks have a new toughest place to play each year, and that's Bramlage Coliseum.


RL 11 years, 8 months ago

Nice khakis, D-bag.....hilarious. I wish I could post my picture of this KSU fan from the Big XII tournament last year. Head to toe in purple camo. even included a purple camo fisherman's hat.

William James 11 years, 8 months ago

Good stuff Jesse. Wish I had a ticket. Id love to be there.

RockChalkJayBlog 11 years, 8 months ago

Their obsession is showing.

Best fans in the country? Maybe best fans in the prairie.

Little brother is jealous, so they boo.

I really wish Self said at his press conference that "MU is more a hatred, KSU is more of a jealously"

That's all it comes down to.

jhawker_87 11 years, 8 months ago

I'm sure glad Bill doesn't have to come out and give the students a pep talk to get us loud for the game...Amateurs.

RockChalkJayBlog 11 years, 8 months ago

Bill only gives pep talks when KU wins a national championship.

kranny 11 years, 8 months ago

Doesn't it just suck to be National Champs!!! I love it!! Pound the Purple Pussies!!!!

Eric Hammond 11 years, 8 months ago

Hello from Baghdad! I am from Lawrence stationed at Fort Riley and watching the game on AFN! I have a lot fo KSuck fans stationed at fort Riley, so give me some trash talking rights! GO HAWKS!!!

jhawkpb23 11 years, 8 months ago

I bleed crimson & blue...

therefore I sh*t purple!!!!!!!

(I'm wearing that shirt today, so I figured I should post it)

Sean Rodger 11 years, 8 months ago

I agree with RockChalkJayBlog - ksu is jealous - I mean their fans - and I say that more like "fans" to stick with a college year in and year out, loss after loss, after losing season. Gotta give 'em credit (I say that very loosely).

I hate MU - I hate KSU, but heres why: MU for the obvious reasons. KSU - there were like 7 ksu fans in the state of Kansas. Then Bill "effin'" Snyder shows up - has a "few" winning seasons, and "True" ksu fans come out of the gutter. You know the "true fan" they can be spotted wearing ksu football attire during football season, and KU basketball attire during basketball season. I hate that.

The "true fan" also has been a fan ever since "they were little" but can never name anybody before the Snyder era. Now, Michael "effin'" Beasley finally broke the streak. Whoopity doo. Look at the overall records between KU-ksu in football and basketball. KU stands out so far in football that ksu would have to beat us for 35 years just to get to .500. And basketball - well yeah - its basketball. We're up almost 100 games.

Crazy ridiculous. I hate ksu fans for their purple, for their cat, for their Herrman Munster looking coach, and for Bill "effin'" Snyder.


Ben Kane 11 years, 8 months ago

Wow, Reed is going to get the start ahead of Taylor...

Taylor was the man who locked down Clemente last time. He's the one who scares me so as long as we shut him down I think we come out with a win.

anyone have any hookups on game video links?

kufaninfl 11 years, 8 months ago

I don't have the game on abc. You guy's know if it's streaming anywhere?

whitechocolate 11 years, 8 months ago

ditto. i know there's some jayhawks in atlanta...where do you guys go to watch the game?

Ben Kane 11 years, 8 months ago

Only a matter of time before little started ahead of marcus

CaramelMacchMan 11 years, 8 months ago


Can you check the history for me?

Who came up with the paper confettie idea at home team intro and first home score? KSU copy cat???

Jesse Newell 11 years, 8 months ago

Caramel — That's going to be tough to trace. I'm sure lots of schools will claim to have done their own traditions first.

CaramelMacchMan 11 years, 8 months ago

Why dont you do some research on it... I would love to read that article!

kufaninfl 11 years, 8 months ago

My internet provider doesn't work with espn 360....

Joe Joseph 11 years, 8 months ago

Khakis = okay

Wranglers = not okay

Wranglers + belt buckles = Extremely not okay

jayhawkintexas 11 years, 8 months ago

Is that an advertisement that K State has on the court? How stupid.

kshaw04 11 years, 8 months ago

I'm in Seattle trying to watch the game on ESPN Full Court Press and the screen is completely blank. I'm on the phone with Comcast and they say no one is reporting anything. Is anyone else seeing a blank screen. UGH!!!!!!

Theutus 11 years, 8 months ago

Ok, time to get the Morris's out of the game.

Eric Hammond 11 years, 8 months ago

I'm sorry, but the twins are terrible offensive players! They do not belong in Div I ball.

Kyle Crenshaw 11 years, 8 months ago

i agree... definitely are not worth the scholarships

Mike Barnhart 11 years, 8 months ago

OMG the Morris brothers are SOFT! Bad hands and no jump. That's called UNATHLETIC!

Code_2008 11 years, 8 months ago

Clemente is warming up... this is going to get ugly...

jayhawkintexas 11 years, 8 months ago

They let KSU get confidence. It could be a real ugly game.

mom_of_three 11 years, 8 months ago

Abc commentators have yet to say anything good about KU. About ready to turn on the radio.

kc_wildfire 11 years, 8 months ago

That is because there is nothing good to say about KU today.

Clarence Haynes 11 years, 8 months ago

Collins needs to play off the ball. Not dribbling well.

Theutus 11 years, 8 months ago

Well atleast Thomas is in the game....

ku98 11 years, 8 months ago

Sherron is letting the "Chicago rivalry" with Pullen go to his head... and Pullen is eating him alive.

Eric Hammond 11 years, 8 months ago

Do we have anyone that can create his own shot?

CaramelMacchMan 11 years, 8 months ago

I think i'm going to throw a remote at my Plasma TV

Theutus 11 years, 8 months ago

On the up-side... we seem to be pretty consistent with playing 1 half great, and the other like crap.

Atleast we're getting our bad half out of the way early.

deepind 11 years, 8 months ago

This is getting out of hand... real fast!

Theutus 11 years, 8 months ago

And that is exactly why Morningstar should be our go-to shooter... And not Collins.

DalTXJayhawk 11 years, 8 months ago

Their misses are so far off, they are getting the long offensive rebounds. (when they do miss)

jayhawkintexas 11 years, 8 months ago

We're just not into a flow either offensively or defensively. We look like we haven't practiced all year.

ku98 11 years, 8 months ago

Blake Griffin recorded 40 points and 23 rebounds today. I am afraid of what he will do to us.

Sean Rodger 11 years, 8 months ago

We look sloppy sloppy sloppy!!!!!

NO DEFENSE! ksu is making us look like a middle school basketball team!

jaynovahawk07 11 years, 8 months ago

This is simply appalling. Since going into a TV timeout with a lead of 11-10, we've been outscored 21-11.

DalTXJayhawk 11 years, 8 months ago

Are these clowns KSU grads? (the announcers)

DalTXJayhawk 11 years, 8 months ago

RICH TRADITION HERE??????? Is he talking about the ksu we know?

Mike Barnhart 11 years, 8 months ago

It's all the refs fault. We can't get any calls. Their fans are out of control. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners! An old friend came in from out of town! Someone stole my car! There was an earthquake! A terrible flood! Locusts! IT'S NOT OUR FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD!"

Thought you might be missing what Bob Davis is talking about.

Theutus 11 years, 8 months ago

These announcers just summed up Collins entire game.... "Out of Control".

BCRavenJHawkfan 11 years, 8 months ago

Breaking News... A Markief dunk was just seen on national TV. It can be done.

rockchalk_dpu 11 years, 8 months ago

Marcus just earned his scholly back whoever was calling for it.

jaynovahawk07 11 years, 8 months ago

Collins has had games like this ever since the game in Lincoln. Collins has become increasingly annoying in my point of view. He's halting the comeback.

Oh my gosh... This game is becoming so exciting! Go hawks!

Ben Kane 11 years, 8 months ago

so much for all the morris morris lovers

ku98 11 years, 8 months ago

MAR-CUS! MAR-CUS! I can't believe I am actually saying that... but nice job, 'Cus.

Eric Hammond 11 years, 8 months ago

LOOK, the Jayhawks just showed up and got off the bus for the game! Welcome to the game HAWKS!!!!

mom_of_three 11 years, 8 months ago

marcus must be reading what was posted....what a game he is having.

mom_of_three 11 years, 8 months ago

the foul on collins when morningstar hit the three was bogus. Collins wasn't even looking when the guy slid into him. We are listening to the radio, because ABC was giving everyone in the big 12 love except KU.

jayhawkansas 11 years, 8 months ago

great comeback hawks...great to be this close considering we cleared the bench

jaynovahawk07 11 years, 8 months ago

I'm satisfied with our situation going into the half. I will take a 1-point deficit at the half after falling behind by sixteen anyday.

PAHAWK1 11 years, 8 months ago

Brady should take 20-25 shots per game.

Theutus 11 years, 8 months ago

Morningstar is so clutch... I can't believe how consistent and clutch he's been this year.

DalTXJayhawk 11 years, 8 months ago

Is that feed silo they keep showing the best thing in manhattan ABC could find leave and come back from commercials??

NH_JHawk 11 years, 8 months ago

hard to remember a game where Mc Morris was playing better than Collins. We took their punch and now we're back. C'mon Sherron, step it up!

CaramelMacchMan 11 years, 8 months ago


I think its becase last time when Steve Lavin brought the team in AllenFieldHouse we hand it to him.. and he remembers.. prolly still burning...

He brought the UCLA team in Fieldhouse year 2001.


BCRavenJHawkfan 11 years, 8 months ago

DalTX, Have you been to Manhattan, KS? Similar to West Texas. Very, very fortunate to be back in this. Whole new game the second half.

Sean Rodger 11 years, 8 months ago

SInce it's halft time - and the feed silo in manhattan is the main focus on the game, all ku fans should check out this link (just in case you haven't seen the "TOUR OF ksu")

href=" - Tour of Kansas State University by chopperdave78

DalTXJayhawk 11 years, 8 months ago

I have been to manhattan twice, once in high school, and once in college. I vaguely remember (alcohol involved). I do remember it was a small town with absolutely nothing outside the campus/aggieville. Wasn't sure if it has grown like Lawrence has over the years. Lawrence has always been a much nicer town.

jayhawkintexas 11 years, 8 months ago

Its kick booty time, guys. Let's get it on.

mom_of_three 11 years, 8 months ago

You are probably right Caramel. when he was talking about all the surprises in the big 12 , and didn't mention KU being 8-1 (and were expected to finish 4th) I knew he wasn't worth listening to. Would have liked to hear him eat some words when KU caught up, but I didn't want to do that to my ears.

Blake Brown 11 years, 8 months ago

I was all ready to post a " embarrassing" note before half and now, " yahoo"! Carry it on into the 2nd half and put this one away. Rock Chalk!

Eric Hammond 11 years, 8 months ago

Tyshawn needs to learn to be able to shoot from the perimeter. He is scared to shoot.

nnelson 11 years, 8 months ago

Without that charge from Collins, Morningstar would be 4-4 from downtown in the first half.

jaynovahawk07 11 years, 8 months ago

Uh... we're starting this second half very sloppily as well.

Sean Rodger 11 years, 8 months ago

Collins is barely ready for D1 - to out of control - tries to hard to be "the man".

Theutus 11 years, 8 months ago

Why is Collins calling for Aldrich to come out and set picks... He should be feeding Aldrich the ball...

rockchalk_dpu 11 years, 8 months ago

How many steps were they going to give Clemente there?

Theutus 11 years, 8 months ago

That a kid Brady.... Scrapping for the ball.

mom_of_three 11 years, 8 months ago

aldrich gets mugged and How does brady get a foul going after a loose ball??? After KSU players lay on collins during that loose ball tie up???

mom_of_three 11 years, 8 months ago

maybe collins wants aldrich to pick and roll??

jayhawkintexas 11 years, 8 months ago

They need to put Clemente on his booty a time or two when he drives the basket. He won't drive after that.

BCRavenJHawkfan 11 years, 8 months ago

Did they say depressive line of coaches at K-State?

mom_of_three 11 years, 8 months ago

not sure what the refs are watching, but the calls are not quite the same on each end.....You should hear Piper and bob. I think someone better check on them. Piper is about ready to blow a gasket.

Theutus 11 years, 8 months ago

mom I would agree with that thought, if Collins EVER fed Aldrich the ball on the pick and roll.....

But he doesn't.

jaynovahawk07 11 years, 8 months ago

Does anyone else think that Kansas State's court is absolutely hideous? I mean yeah, they have purple, and that isn't as cool as our school colors, but for real, don't you think that they could have managed something better?

cwag 11 years, 8 months ago

I've said it all season: Collins is a great complimentary player, but doesn't have the basketball savvy, situational awareness, or composure to lead us. The sooner we become Cole's team, the better.

mom_of_three 11 years, 8 months ago

someone has fed him once, but not sure who it is. The 2nd time aldrich got mugged, and nothing....thought piper would have a fit....well, he did have a fit

Theutus 11 years, 8 months ago

cwag, i've been preaching the same thing all year... some people refuse to admit it though.

Sean Rodger 11 years, 8 months ago

ksu's court seems dingy to me. Anyone else wanna vote Morningstar MIP? Most Improved Player?

NH_JHawk 11 years, 8 months ago

Sherron playing much better so far this half. Nice OOP right there!

Theutus 11 years, 8 months ago

Aldrich sprinting the court.... good feed from Collins for once too.

jayhawkintexas 11 years, 8 months ago

Nice lob dunk!!! That's Jayhawks basketball.

rockchalk_dpu 11 years, 8 months ago

Anyone noticed how Lavin has slowly changed the way he is providing color? He was all over KSUck's nuts the first half and now he is praising the 'Hawks in everything they do. He might be a bit of a front-runner. Maybe that's why he failed as a coach...

Sean Rodger 11 years, 8 months ago

Looks like Clemente should have played ball for Mizzourah!

jaynovahawk07 11 years, 8 months ago

Guys... we have a 10 point lead. How did this happen!? Haha, this is amazing.

Lone_salina_kufan 11 years, 8 months ago

Clemente is "acting like a punk" Thank you Gottleib

jayhawkintexas 11 years, 8 months ago

That technical on Clemente may have influenced the refs and they are going to watch him a lot closer.

NH_JHawk 11 years, 8 months ago

Reed just got getting chippy now.

mom_of_three 11 years, 8 months ago

They just missed a push against reed. Consistency zebras

mom_of_three 11 years, 8 months ago

I like that coach is playing his bench to get the point across to the players in the first half. Go Appleton

jayhawkintexas 11 years, 8 months ago

Collins is dribbling too much--bad habit that is returning.

mom_of_three 11 years, 8 months ago

refs need to call some fouls underneath. Dont think KSU is supposed to hug our players during the game.

Sean Rodger 11 years, 8 months ago

Gotta play the players that want to play - you know everyone is wanting playing time!

Theutus 11 years, 8 months ago

How in the hell did they call that against Appleton?

mom_of_three 11 years, 8 months ago

bob says "wacky calls in this game." That's an understatement.,

Sean Rodger 11 years, 8 months ago

Anyone know why Collins has been wearing the shooters sleeve?

CaramelMacchMan 11 years, 8 months ago

"Its a run if they can convert offensively and get some stops." -Steve lavin

Okay!!!!! WE know that!!

mom_of_three 11 years, 8 months ago

Maybe that's why Lavin isn't coaching anymore.

Sean Rodger 11 years, 8 months ago

I'd take steve lavin over dick vitale and his man love for unc/duke/coach k/ and roy williams!!!!

mom_of_three 11 years, 8 months ago

dickie v is always fun to watch when he is watching a ku game.

cwag 11 years, 8 months ago

What's the difference between Lavin and the economy?

The economy will get better.

BCRavenJHawkfan 11 years, 8 months ago

Just under 7:00 to go and we are going into walk the ball up mode. The exact thing that killed us against Mizzou. Come on, if K-State is foolish enough to press, make them pay!

PAHAWK1 11 years, 8 months ago

What the heck is Collins doing? He tried and bricked a three with 29 sec left on the clock. Leaders do not shoot that early with 8 point lead on the road (unless it is a layup).

DalTXJayhawk 11 years, 8 months ago

Why was clamente not ejected? They called it intentional, and it was clearly a punch with the elbow?

mom_of_three 11 years, 8 months ago

bob pissed about pullen getting the physical steal, when we can't do the same/

mom_of_three 11 years, 8 months ago

they are calling flops, but we can't get a break.

jayhawkintexas 11 years, 8 months ago

How can they call that a jump ball when Collins gets hit in the face?

rockchalk_dpu 11 years, 8 months ago

Did Pullen decide to sit down after that shot and the refs missed it?! No way that was a foul.

DalTXJayhawk 11 years, 8 months ago

clemente plays like the guy from Davidson

CaramelMacchMan 11 years, 8 months ago

"When the big dog(cole) is hungry throw him a bone." -Steve Lavin

hahaha!! that was funny!

rockchalk_dpu 11 years, 8 months ago

Good to see Cole getting jacked up and excited about this game. The freshmen need to see that and get the momentum back.

Lone_salina_kufan 11 years, 8 months ago

Refs losing control of the game by trying to decide it

jayhawkansas 11 years, 8 months ago

marcus' new look was short lived, that could cost us...again

rockchalk_dpu 11 years, 8 months ago

"These two teams don't like each other a whole lot..." Really, you just now figured that one out?

mom_of_three 11 years, 8 months ago

funny, refs trying to get control when they lost it a long time ago.
I don't care if they have no calls, just a little consistency from the refs. That;s all I ask for.

BCRavenJHawkfan 11 years, 8 months ago

Does Collins really think he can split a double team? He has been on the short end of that every time this year. Come on, wise up man.

mom_of_three 11 years, 8 months ago

ksu big guys have double dribbled a few times under the basket.....

jayhawkintexas 11 years, 8 months ago

KSU player slapping it out of Marcus' hands should have drawn a warning.

Sean Rodger 11 years, 8 months ago

This just in: Its rivalry week in NCAA Basketball.

jayhawkansas 11 years, 8 months ago

lucky to not get a t...second guy always gets caught

BCRavenJHawkfan 11 years, 8 months ago

Good Lord, we act we have never encountered double teams.

Theutus 11 years, 8 months ago

lol, Taylor just walked badly on the inbounds..... Good thing they didn't catch it.

mom_of_three 11 years, 8 months ago

good game by brady, didn't deserve some of those fouls.
Did you see the replay on the tie up? ONe called a foul on Kstate and the other called a jump? We thougth it was foul, too

Clarence Haynes 11 years, 8 months ago

Glad to hear that they know their left from their right!

Theutus 11 years, 8 months ago

Lets see Releford come in hopefully.....

jayhawkintexas 11 years, 8 months ago

We have two guys foul out and they don't even have anyone with 4 fouls. The refs are definitely having a bad day.

rockchalk_dpu 11 years, 8 months ago

Does anyone know why the KSUck players have crossing swords and shield on their left chest?

rcaltrider 11 years, 8 months ago

Horrible call! This Clemente b@#ch needs his @$$ kicked! He is a first class punk. Need to send an end of the bench player out and send him a message at the end.

Clarence Haynes 11 years, 8 months ago

I think Marcus paid Glavin tonight. he's been singing his praises all night!

mom_of_three 11 years, 8 months ago

Here is an unofficial stat -

flops - KSU - 8 Clemente - 6

Lone_salina_kufan 11 years, 8 months ago

why are we the only ones fouling on loose balls?

rcaltrider 11 years, 8 months ago

I guess Clemente just is an extension of his coach.

jayhawkintexas 11 years, 8 months ago

The crossed swords are to honor a division out of Fort Riley that is in Afghanistan. That's a nice touch, actually.

rockchalk_dpu 11 years, 8 months ago

Nice that Reed gets called for a foul after he got shoved over my #1

Sean Rodger 11 years, 8 months ago

WIN-WIN-WIN - and the streak begins again...

BCRavenJHawkfan 11 years, 8 months ago

Not sure how they did it, but what the hell, it's a win.

DalTXJayhawk 11 years, 8 months ago

Not easy to silence bramledge? This is only their 2nd sell out of this season.

rockchalk_dpu 11 years, 8 months ago

Looks like someone pulled the fire alarm... everybody's clearing out. Great game and way to show toughness down the stretch. Rock Chalk!

jayhawkintexas 11 years, 8 months ago

Way to go, guys. Ugly at the beginning but we won.

CaramelMacchMan 11 years, 8 months ago

Clemente was crying!!! wow! i got that on DVR...

mom_of_three 11 years, 8 months ago

Why didnt Markief play?????

But Marcus played his tail off.

BCRavenJHawkfan 11 years, 8 months ago

PAHAWK1, I know, almost can't believe it. I hope this gives him more confidence. I really think if he would take his agression out on the basket more he wouldn't have some of the fouls he gets.

Lone_salina_kufan 11 years, 8 months ago

This needs to be a step forward for Marcus Morris. He stepped up in a lot of ways. He's done this before, but then regressed

jco8394 11 years, 8 months ago

Sorry that we beat you in your national championship K-State....there's always next year....or twice every 20 years or so

Derek Conway 11 years, 8 months ago

DalTXJayhawk- That is how it is for almost every team we play. No matter where we go, there will most likely be a sell out. Not only that, we also have to deal with a gold rush, white, black, purple, yellow, green and orange outs. That is just what you get when you are coming off a National Title.

Overall, I am glad we pulled it out. Not very pretty but very similar to the mu game. Obviously we have learned from that, but we still have a lot of room for improvement, especially when it comes to closing games.

P.S.-After Simien, Miles, Langford and the crew left we were blessed with the next class of Rush, Chalmers etc.. The same thing is happening right now and I just want to say that we should enjoy watching them improve and hopefully developing into what we had last year. These guys are all special.

jayhawkansas 11 years, 8 months ago

if anyone taped this game, look at the last free throw of clemente after reed fouled him (toward the end) and see if he took a swipe at reed

FairgroveJayhawk 11 years, 8 months ago

Great game,

the commentators are not in touch with reality. but they did talk up the conference and the rivalry.

Marcus played a heck of a game. Signs of briliance, and a retaliation elbow.

Did Little get hurt? he played briefly in the first half and none in the second half.

KU showed the ability to fight back. They continued to fight all the way through the second half until the buzzer sounded.

Good win.

Tony Bandle 11 years, 8 months ago

Typical game for a very talented but very young team. The two halfs can be direct opposites of each other. In Columbia, bad luck...the good half was first, in Manhattan...good luck, the good half was second. Soon enough the halfs will attain a quality whereby you won't have to chose one over the other.

Also, I will vehemently but respectfully disagree with anyone who fails to recognize inexperience even now as a factor with the freshman. My opinion is that until they experience a full season against all their opponents home and away, before they see the intensity of the Big Twelve Tournament, before they participate in their first NCAA Playoff game, their progress will have to measured in fits and starts.

What you can gauge are the good moments and are they coming more frequently and the bad moments, are they lessening in number and degree.

This was a very big win on many levels, league standings, ratings, bounce back factor, another road victory but, most important, another step in the growth and maturation of the entire team. The 15-1 dream continues!!!

PS Martin does look like a gangster, doesn't he!!!!

kvskubball 11 years, 8 months ago

I agree with those singing Marcus's praises! Game ball goes to MC, IMO. This is by far his best game as a Jayhawk! Well done.

Also, there for awhile in the second half, I thought, on no, here we go again. The guards seemed to forget about Cole for about 8 minutes....but we did come back to him toward the end, and we even got the ball to him! Good job team. Way to rally and get this game after being disappointed on Monday and getting down big in the first half!

Rock Chalk!

TopekaWestHawkFan 11 years, 8 months ago

I never thought I would say this but great game Marcus!

ku98 11 years, 8 months ago

You gotta love hearing the commentators talk about famous coaches/alumni at both schools... "Phog Allen, Dean Smith, Adolph Rupp, Larry Brown...." and the guy goes "well, Kansas State is not bad either... Hartman, Fitzsimmons, Kruger..." I almost wet my pants hearing that...

Blake Brown 11 years, 8 months ago

Great win! We got tough all of a sudden. Great effort although lots of bonehead mistakes. With a 49% FT avg. for the season" why is Releford in the game when we are on offense in the last minute plus?
Now for Iowa State and a big rematrch against Nebraska. Then OU!! It`s lookin good. Rock Chalk!

ku98 11 years, 8 months ago

1big, Releford was in the game in the last minute or so because both Tyshawn and Brady fouled out.

DrRoach 11 years, 8 months ago

25 games played--20-5 record. Am I good or what: yes, yes I am. Roach.

DrRoach 11 years, 8 months ago

One more thought, This is not yet a good defensive team which I bet drives Coach crazy. We allow to many opponents to shoot over 40% and cannot seem to put back-to-back clutch defensive stops together. This will have to improve for a deep tourny run.

jasonsgill 11 years, 8 months ago

Although in fairness Pullen/Clemente is as good a guard combo as there is in the BIG XII today. Both of them can create on the drive and hit the three. Our interior D (except for Mario) looked really good today (Although in fairness there frontcourt is tall but exceptionally unskilled).

Greg Lux 11 years, 8 months ago

I got M&M for Valentines Day ... Now that he knows he can do it.... Let's hope he and his brother will turn it up a notch from now on and play with the desire that I saw today. Marcus was without a doubt quicker then anyone else out there getting after loose balls and going to the boards time and again. .. Great game let it not be your best just the start of many great efforts... Oh and Stop shooting 3's your making my heart stop LOL ( I know you made it but we have guards who do a good job also )

What a nice V.Day present. Thanks Jayhawks Great comeback win.. Rock Chalk ...

100 11 years, 8 months ago

I've heard people talking about the 15-1 dream in league play. The strange thing is if we do go 15-1, we win the league all by ourselves. The loss at home for OU would be the tie breaker.

Hawkman_021 11 years, 8 months ago

BCRavenJHawkfan I love the storming the parking lot I said it to my ksu friends they didnt like it as much as I did

Dirk Medema 11 years, 8 months ago

For all the dumping on Sherron, I thought he made two of the bigger plays was when the kittys were making their comeback in the second half. He got the ball very high in the half court O, had everyone spread wide, and Cole bring his man toward the top of the lane, then threw the pass up toward the goal for Cole to catch and drop in.

The next possession, Tyshawn made a steal and drove the ball upcourt into a TO. Fortunately, I think we got the ball back after another empty kitty possession, and Sherron made an identical performance, and Cole picked up the basket and foul. Sounds like what everyone said was suppose to happen last game.

I also think Coach needs to split up the twins and move Marcus in with Brady. Lavin commented that the retalliation gets called missed that Brady did nothing to instigate being elbowed so there couldn't be retalliation. That was amazingly mature. (I also love the leadership Sherron shows to firmly step in, but not recklessly.) The contrast is that Marcus was on the verge of getting another stupid chippy T, after the comment that he was going to completely change. Too many times his reactions have betrayed the irresponsibility (?) that has been ingrained far too deep in him, and comes out in reactions/without thinking. That being said, it was a nice game by Marcus, and great to see 'Kief dunk.

Dale Kroening 11 years, 8 months ago

Great win! 20 straight years with atleast 20 wins. Rock CHalk Jayhawk Go KU!!!!!!!!!!

rockchalk80 11 years, 8 months ago

what a game!... the reverse of the Mizzou game... cardiac hawks!

Brandon Hull 11 years, 8 months ago

This was a great win, always good to win at KSU. I'll bet Frank Martin stays for a couple more years before blowing a fuse with a player or something and being forced to resign. He's a little over the top on the intensity scale.

But back to us: we've also got some issues that should have been sorted out by now. And I don't mean freshmen issues.

On the top of that list, I think Sherron likes to be seen as the leader...without actually possessing the traits of a leader. He has the talent, but not the judgment. He can talk to the guys from experience in the huddle after a foul. But he lacks the self-control to make smart decisions late in games, in my opinion.

I give Collins credit for being a play-maker and causing havoc when he drives, but you just have to know when NOT to attempt a pull-up 3, not to attempt a layup with 3 guys around you who've each got 8 inches+ on you, and not to simply try to break a guy down and dribble past him...only to face 2-3 more defenders in the interior. Being a leader doesn't always mean YOU make those killer shots -- it means you guide your team to win the game.

Some of this is on Self. Wouldn't be life or death if everyone didn't look to Sherron to lead the way they do.

Having said all that, I didn't think this team would be 20-5, 9-1 going into the season, so it's been a nice surprise. I'll take whatever they give us at this point, they are fun to watch.

kranny 11 years, 8 months ago

We would not have even 10 wins if not for Sherron Collins. Good lord he's THE only player on the team who can even come close to creating a shot while the other guards stand around clueless. Reed and Taylor still need a lot of court time. Collins is basically trying to create on his own. Am I the only person who sees the double and triple teams that he draws along with Aldrich. Not to mention the amount of foul shots he puts in. For Cripes sake get a clue posters. Collins is the man and we would be Tex Tech without him. Remember the steal and the 3 pointer against Memphis in the championship. Wise up!

Tony Bandle 11 years, 8 months ago


I totally agree. Watch the next game closely. Sherron is constantly talking to and directing his teammates, even with the ball while making a play. I think part of what we miss when we question his moves is that maybe his teammate is not in the right spot and thus he is forced to follow thru on a shot with less chance of success than if the pass had happened.

Still, I have checked dozens of mock drafts, and his name shows up on NONE. Interestingly, Cole showed up on one draft at 16 and didn't show up at all on a number of other drafts. Come on Sherron and Cole...stick around another year. You know you really want to!!!!

Tony Bandle 11 years, 8 months ago

KU Victory Haiku

Purple kitties fall

Loss lands them on back not paws

Another life lost

Hibachi33 11 years, 8 months ago

kranny is right on. KU=Nebraska without Collins. KU=Sweet 16 with him.

Good win and goodnight!!

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