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Originally published February 2, 2009 at 06:54p.m., updated February 2, 2009 at 10:57p.m.

FINAL: Morris twins shine in KU’s 75-65 victory over Baylor

Kansas forward Markieff Morris pulls an offensive rebound away from Baylor forward Kevin Rogers during the second half Monday, Feb. 2, 2009 at the Ferrell Center in Waco.

Kansas forward Markieff Morris pulls an offensive rebound away from Baylor forward Kevin Rogers during the second half Monday, Feb. 2, 2009 at the Ferrell Center in Waco.

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2009 KU-BU Feb. 2

Reader poll

Who was KU's first-half MVP against Baylor?

  • Sherron Collins 23% 3 votes
  • Cole Aldrich 30% 4 votes
  • Brady Morningstar 38% 5 votes
  • Marcus Morris 7% 1 vote
  • Other 0% 0 votes

13 total votes.

Reader poll

Of these three Jayhawks, which was your favorite to watch on the defensive end?

  • Russell Robinson 41% 30 votes
  • Aaron Miles 6% 5 votes
  • Mario Chalmers 52% 38 votes

73 total votes.

GameDay Cram Session: Baylor

KUSports.com online editor Jesse Newell & Journal-World sports editor Tom Keegan discuss what to expect from the Kansas men's basketball team's road game against Baylor.

6Sports Preview: Kansas at Baylor

6Sports' Kevin Romary takes a look at the 'Big Monday' matchup between the Jayhawks and Baylor.

KU scoring

Collins 17, Marcus Morris 13, Little 12, Markieff Morris 9, Aldrich 9, Morningstar 6, Taylor 6, Reed 3.

KU was 28-for-57 from the floor (49.1 percent), 3-for-8 from three (37.5 percent) and 16-for-20 from the free-throw line (80 percent).

BU was 18-for-51 from the field (35.3 percent), 8-for-22 from three (36.4 percent) and 21-for-27 from the free-throw line (77.8 percent).

FINAL: Morris twins shine in 75-65 victory over Baylor

Collins’ free-throw streak ends at 35, as a free throw rattles out. A minute later, while waiting on an inbounds pass, he turned to our own Tom Keegan and said, “I missed one” with a smile.

KU comes away with an impressive, 10-point victory.

KU 74/BU 61 — 1:26 left in game

KU looks to be embracing the challenge that comes with playing on the road. The Jayhawks are playing focused and also smart. After an offensive rebound, Reed pulls it out. With numbers, Little throws a nice lob to Markieff for an easy two.

KU is in control of this one, and not just on the scoreboard.

Collins makes two free throws and has the school record at 35 straight. The “Rock Chalk” chant starts from the rafters.

KU 66/BU 55 — 3:31 left in game

What a move by Collins. He went baseline and looked for the pass before, in mid-stride, deciding to throw it off the glass for a reverse lay-in.

More fouls are hurting KU. Markieff Morris gets whistled for touching Rogers, and Jerrells later is fouled on a drive to the rim. Three easy points for the Bears.

Two free throws for Collins after he received the benefit of the doubt on a continuation foul call. He rolled both in giving him 31 in a row.

The whistles are turning. Collins forces a questionable blocking call on Baylor, then swishes No. 32 and No. 33.

In a scrum under the basket, Markieff picks up a loose ball and dishes to Little for a layup. Self goes wild with excitement on the sideline. He punches both fists in the air like a boxer, obviously pleased with his team’s grittiness on the play.

KU 56/BU 52 — 7:56 left in game

The calls are going against KU right now. With Baylor making it to the bonus, those ticky-tack calls are magnified. The Jayhawks have to earn their two points, while the Bears get them at the free-throw line. KU’s leading in team fouls this half, 10-5.

The Jayhawks are getting sped up on offense. Collins takes control on one possession, though, coming around a pick and scooping to Little for a lay-in.

Aldrich fouls Jerrells on a drive, and that’s his fourth whistle. Jerrells sinks a free throw at the 8:16 mark for his first point.

Play is stopped when a Baylor fan throws something on the court after disagreeing with a charge call on the Bears. Baylor fans get a failing grade for their performance tonight.

KU 50/BU 47 — 11:54 left in game

Curtis Jerrells has 0 points for BU. He led the team with 16.8 points per game coming in.

It might have been a foul on Markieff Morris, but I hate when players pump-fake on the three-point line then jump into a player, begging for a foul. It works for Dugat, though, who makes all three free throws.

Tweety Carter follows with a three in transition, and KU’s lead is down to four.

Somehow, KU leaves Carter open again in the corner, and he drains another three. That’s a 9-0 run for Baylor.

Reed answers with a jumper. Another big-time shot for him.

KU 43/BU 35 — 15:46 left in game

Marcus Morris must have drank some special Gatorade at halftime. On KU’s first possession, he pivots in the lane and, without hesitation, sinks the short jumper.

He follows with a layup and tip-in before Taylor lobs him a pass that he finishes at the rim. Marcus has KU’s first eight points of the second half. He’s only a point off his career-high (14).

Collins spins in the lane and softly lays one off the glass. KU has found rhythm offensively.

Markieff Morris swishes a wide-open three from the top, and brother Marcus waves a towel in celebration. Timeout Baylor, as the Jayhawks are on a 7-0 run and have their biggest lead at 43-33.

KU scoring

Aldrich 7 (3-for-4 shooting), Collins 6, Morningstar 6, Marcus Morris 5, Taylor 4, Markieff Morris 2.

KU was 12-for-29 from the floor (41.4 percent), 2-for-6 from three (33.3 percent) and 4-for-5 from the free-throw line (80 percent).

BU was 10-for-25 from the floor (40 percent), 4-for-9 from three (44.4 percent) and 4-for-4 from the free-throw line (100 percent).

KU out-rebounded Baylor, 17-15. KU had seven turnovers to BU’s nine.

Halftime thoughts

The crowd here is a non-factor. Even when it’s loud, it’s not loud. I thought the noise would play a major role before the game, but it won’t. It’s hard to believe the apathy from the fans here in Waco.

A nice stat for Marcus Morris: All four of his rebounds were defensive rebounds.

This is a low-scoring game from what I was expecting. Look for both teams to perform better offensively in the second half.

Truth be told, this is a game KU should win. The Jayhawks overcame a poor start and still managed to take a lead into half. They won’t be overwhelmed by this underwhelming crowd, so if they manage to keep the mistakes (and especially turnovers) down, they should have a great shot at winning this game.

KU 30/BU 28 — Halftime

Marcus Morris finally gets a shot to go down, banking in a baseline shot with a foul. His free throw ties the game at 26.

This game seems like the Nebraska game all over again. KU isn’t playing well, but the score somehow remains close.

Collins drains a pull-up, and KU has its first lead. Self claps his hands, urging his team to play defense on the final possession.

Taylor fouls Dugat just before the Jayhawks can force a charge. Dugat makes both free throws.

Collins goes one-on-one with 5 seconds left, floating in a 10-footer just before the buzzer. KU gets some momentum heading into the locker room.

BU 26/KU 21 — 3:19 left in 1st half

Collins gets his first shot to go in — a tough floater in the lane. With as stagnant as KU’s offense has been, he might have to start being more aggressive.

Henry Dugat is left wide, wide open for a three, and he drains it. That’s inexcusable from the Jayhawks’ standpoint.

Self has had much more patience with the twins tonight and left them in even after they’ve messed up. Maybe he’s figured that he has to for them to learn.

After an offensive rebound, Dugat is once again left wide open. Swish. Another defensive breakdown for KU.

BU 18/KU 15 — 7:41 left in 1st half

At this point, Morningstar is 2-for-2. The rest of the team is 1-for-11.

Collins bricks another three. Is his sore elbow affecting his shot?

Marcus Morris has an easy shot inside, but he shies away from the contact and misses it. He needs to take the shot through the defender, not away from him.

Taylor finally gets a lob to Aldrich, and he finishes with an easy two. Taylor turns it over on the next possession, though, trying to be too fancy with a pass to Markieff Morris inside.

BU 11/KU 9 — 11:26 left in 1st half

Mario Little drives all the way to the basket but doinks an uncontested dunk. KU needs the points, too.

Right after, Little commits two quick fouls to return to the bench.

The Jayhawks look out of sync offensively. No one seems to be getting open off set plays. Collins and Aldrich look hesitant with the basketball.

Morningstar with another huge three from the corner. He seems to know just when the team needs him to turn up his offense.

BU 6/KU 3 — 15:22 left in 1st half

KU struggles with turnovers to start. Marcus Morris has two in a row, the second on a bad entry pass to Cole Aldrich.

The Jayhawks start 0-for-3 before Brady Morningstar’s three from the top at the 17:09 mark.

Another turnover on a forced pass by Tyshawn Taylor. KU's leading in turnovers, 3-1.

Kevin Rogers puts in a 6-footer over Mario Little. That’s not a good defensive matchup for KU.

8:07 p.m.

It's safe to say now: This is not a sell-out, and really it's not close to one. It looks like there are a couple thousand empties. I was expecting a better Baylor crowd for sure.

8:05 p.m.

A minute until gametime. I'll go ahead and throw in my prediction since my last one wasn't too far off.

Prediction: Baylor 72, Kansas 70.

7:54 p.m.

Baylor has some interesting court-side seats. The chairs are court-side, but there is a table in front of the fans. Why not take away the tables? Many Big 12 schools have done it, and I think that makes more clear that the people are fans and not media members.

A lot of the upper deck is empty, but I said that at this point before the Nebraska game before it filled in. A few hundred KU fans are tucked up in one corner on the side across from the KU bench.

7:20 p.m.

Here are some random notes about Waco/Baylor.

I like the Ferrell Center, and that’s surprising to me. On TV, it doesn’t look like a great atmosphere, but when you’re on the court, the arena seems to tower around you. Because of that, the court seemed extremely small when I was standing on it about an hour ago. The facility reminds me a lot of Wichita State’s Koch Arena, another venue I like quite a bit.

Baylor fans have it made. Not only was there a white T-shirt on every seat (making it ridiculously easy for every fan to participate in tonight’s White-Out), the staff also had newspapers waiting for the students, which most likely will be used for the starting lineups.

Do not miss Rudy’s Bar-BQ in Waco. Best briscuit I’ve had in at least a year.

As we were pulling into the parking lot before the game, Baylor coach Scott Drew was pulling out in his SUV. He nodded like he knew us, then gave us the point-the-finger-like-a-gun-and-shoot-at-you-like-I-know-you gesture. Maybe we looked familiar to him. Maybe he knew he didn’t know us. Either way, he’s moved up on my list of favorite Big 12 coaches.

I turned in especially to KXXV last night to check out the "Boom Goes the Dynamite Guy". Alas, I was too late. There’s still hope for tonight.

Dr Pepper does not and never has contained prune juice. The Dr Pepper Hall of Fame made this clear in several locations.

6:39 p.m.

Welcome back to the Newell Post Live, coming to you from the Ferrell Center in Waco, Texas, where the No. 21 Kansas Jayhawks are getting set to take on the Baylor Bears.

The last three games have made me realize how fortunate KU fans were to have seen Aaron Miles, Russell Robinson and Mario Chalmers on the defensive end.

All three, in their own ways, were great defensively. All came to KU with the ability to take the ball away and get transition points on the other end.

The Jayhawks would love to have one of them right now. Take a look at the opponents’ turnover count for the last three games:

Iowa State: 9 turnovers

Nebraska: 8 turnovers

Colorado (a turnover-prone team): 7 turnovers

In the same three games, KU has averaged 15 turnovers per game (11, 21 and 13, respectively).

Last year, KU’s opponents averaged 15.6 turnovers per game. It might not be a completely fair comparison, but it does illustrate that it will be tough for the Jayhawks to keep winning if they don’t force more turnovers.

In particular, KU isn’t stealing the ball much. The stats support that.

Check out the steal percentage* for KU’s defense the last four years, courtesy of Kenpom.com.

*Steal percentage=Steals/defensive possessions

2005-06: 14.0 percent (ninth in nation)

2006-07: 13.1 percent (15th)

2007-08: 13.0 percent (16th)

2008-09: 10.7 percent (110th)

So who has the best potential to get steals for KU? I would think it would be Taylor, who has quickness and length but seems to not have the same defensive instincts as Miles/Robinson/Chalmers. He looks to be focusing most on staying in front of his man instead of looking for the steal.

It’ll be tough for KU to get steals again tonight: Baylor has the ball stolen on only 7.9 percent of its possessions, which is 20th-best in the nation.

If the Jayhawks aren’t able to score points off turnovers, they’ll have to keep their own turnovers down and execute well in the half-court to improve their chances against the Bears tonight.

Comments

Djibouti 11 years, 3 months ago

We'll need a solid effort tonight to get through a (most likely) motivated Baylor bunch. We need to stay in the face of the shooters and be aggressive on the offensive end. They are a team on the brink of bad things with 3 straight losses; hopefully we'll let the air out of their balloon early and let their desperation take over.

Blake Brown 11 years, 3 months ago

Baylor is a guard oriented team with lots of depth and experience which accounts to a big reason they do not turn it over much. The lack of defensive pressure on our part, especially on the ball, allows other teams to set their offense and make passes that are safe and in the flow. It all starts on the defensive end. We have been blessed with the likes of Chalmers, Robinson and those before them. In time, our current guys will aspire to that level. Tonight would be a great time to get in the face of the opposite side.GO HAWKS !

lance1jhawk 11 years, 3 months ago

Jesse- Here is that line you were looking for in the LA Times that 1BigHawkFan said that we were 7.5 point dogs in... I don't think he can read a sports line by the way.http://64.246.64.33/merge/tsnform.aspx?c=latimes&page=gaming/liveodds2.aspx

Lance Hobson 11 years, 3 months ago

Great breakdown of those defensive stats - I'm sold that we need to get some steals and rush them into some mistakes tonight!

cwag 11 years, 3 months ago

Jesse, don't forget the rules at Baylor:NO DANCING!!!

frompekka2sasha 11 years, 3 months ago

Praise to Newell on posting these stats. I wish there was more analysis on kusports.com and was included in the articles. I really believe Keegan knows the game but he seems to shy away from in-depth coverage that isn't necessarily basic to the reader. Please pass this on to everyone who writes for this site. ThanksLet's go Hawks! The game was a pick 'em on some sites so I'm wondering if the money is favoring Baylor at the last minute. This will be a tough game but it comes after an abysmal home performance so Self should have them fired up!!

Blake Brown 11 years, 3 months ago

lance1jhawk: You are correct. I did not read the line accurately. I saw 7 1/2 and it was 1 1/2.

Jesse Newell 11 years, 3 months ago

No biggie, 1bighawk fan. The only reason I asked is that I believe most Jayhawk fans would line up with money in hand if Baylor was 7-plus point favorites.

jaybate 11 years, 3 months ago

They are a guard oriented team that starts small and subs bigger.Question: if you're Bill Self, do you start smaller and sub bigger to match them tit for tat, or do you go big to try to make them pay early for going smaller? Who starts? Little (shorter), or Marcus (longer)? Dark Undercurrent: Is Drew going to be tempted to end their losing streak by ordering the mugging of Cole. Mug Cole and you are at the worst assured a close game. Drew is desparate now, if ever a coach were desparate. I don't recall a history of mug ball with Drew, but desparate situations can sometimes tempt a coach.Regardless, this is going to be a great test of Collins, Taylor and Morningstar. Collins has to get his. Taylor has to get 10. Guessing Morningstar will try to get 10 too. He seems to have been ticking up recently; that is, he seems to have been being asked to score a little more, while the kinks get worked out at the 4 between Little and Marcus. If our youth can handle their experienced perimeter, then things default to Little/Marcus vs. their young stud, as well as to The Condor vs. Mamadou. I haven't seen Mamadou this year, but Cole ought to be able to fight him at least to stalemate, probably outscore him. Cole...steppin' out to the free throw line to take his j, mahn, havin' some light contact for a change...enjoyin' not gettin' his face busted.This would be a great game for Little and Marcus to both break out. The match up seems right, though they are both going to have guard for an entire game.Our margin of victory could come out of the 4. Sherron and Cole have to get theirs as usual, but it seems like the edge could come at the four, either via locking down their four, or holding him to his average and outscoring him.Go Hawks!Rock Chalk!

frompekka2sasha 11 years, 3 months ago

jaybate- I think we have to start big because that is our strength to offset Baylor's defensive weakness. If we fall behind early than I believe Self will have no choice but to go small. I also think he'll be quick with the TO's tonight because this game is one that may decide the B12 later on down the road. Everyone is talking about the MU and KSU road games but this one is obviously just as important. The Morris twins have started to figure things out and I believe these next two weeks will show all of the naysayers why these guys were recruited to KU. Not sure I can recall any freshman catching the wrath of KU fans more than these two guys. Only one of them fired an airsoft rifle but two of them are paying for the sin.

cffighter86 11 years, 3 months ago

Nice post about Dr. Pepper not containing Prune Juice!!! I have been told that it has for YEARS now!! Damn those people....

RedRed 11 years, 3 months ago

I don't like the green & yellow/gold yuk color !! Let's get it on !! Be ready to play !!

Joseph Kuebel 11 years, 3 months ago

Booty Rockin Big Jay just for you Jaybate!

cffighter86 11 years, 3 months ago

Why in the world is Marcus starting? Already three bad plays by him...

cwag 11 years, 3 months ago

"The facility reminds me a lot of Wichita State’s Koch Arena, another venue I like quite a bit."As a young lad, I saw the Hawks beat Houston & Drake in the old Henry Leavitt Arena a.k.a. the Roundhouse (as Koch was known then) on the way to the 1971 Final Four.

twowheels 11 years, 3 months ago

Streaming live online anywhere? I have the radio streaming but...

RedRed 11 years, 3 months ago

We are a little tight .... relax team and work the ball around !

frompekka2sasha 11 years, 3 months ago

Unfortunately Coach Self can't pre-determine which players are going to make boneheaded plays.

wischalk 11 years, 3 months ago

Good gracious this is so sloppy I can't take it... Taylor needs to take an early seat and think about how to play under control. We're going to have well over 20 TOs again at this rate.

Eric Hammond 11 years, 3 months ago

The two freshman are looking really bad right now. Come on Tyshawn! Marcus go sit down for the love of god!!!

RedRed 11 years, 3 months ago

Misses Jam and Fouls on next time down !! Wake up !!

kc_wildfire 11 years, 3 months ago

Should have been a foul on Morris with the double elbows.

frompekka2sasha 11 years, 3 months ago

That was a foul on Morris but it's exactly what's been missing on many KU teams in the past. I'll never forget how physical Self's Illinois team was against our "finesse" team. They sent us home packing.

Eric Hammond 11 years, 3 months ago

We have played as bad as we have all year and we are only down by 3.

Ben Kane 11 years, 3 months ago

i don't understand why kief doesn't start ahead of marcus...

kc_wildfire 11 years, 3 months ago

Have either of the Morris twins made a contested lay-up all year?If they could learn to finish that would drastically improve the team.

RedRed 11 years, 3 months ago

I think we are starting to settle down ... and ready to make a little run ! Play some defense too !

BCRavenJHawkfan 11 years, 3 months ago

Has anyone else seen the ESPN commercial using the the Rock Chalk Jayhawk chant in reverse? (those old enough, just think Black Sabbeth albums).It's pretty cool, I like it.

Eric Hammond 11 years, 3 months ago

Why can't we get a power forward to go strong to the basket like that?

BCRavenJHawkfan 11 years, 3 months ago

When did Collins start wearing an arm sleeve?I mean the .......

RedRed 11 years, 3 months ago

Morris needs to Jam the ball through the hoop !!

frompekka2sasha 11 years, 3 months ago

No kidding about the 2-foot basket. If we could convert those "bunnies" we would be a Top 15 team!

DalTXJayhawk 11 years, 3 months ago

Something the other day said he has a bruise/contusion on his elbow.

jaybate 11 years, 3 months ago

Markieff Morris has just played the best several minutes of his college career. It is like he went to see the wizard of oz and got courage, hear and a brain all at once. This guy is playing beautifully despite an error here an there. Keep it up, Kieff!

kc_wildfire 11 years, 3 months ago

I wish I was watching the game you were jaybate.

frompekka2sasha 11 years, 3 months ago

Uh... the goofy white dude just travelled.

Kyle Logan 11 years, 3 months ago

i sure wish the twins could make layups ... we would be up by 10 already

frompekka2sasha 11 years, 3 months ago

Okay guys. You have played like absolute crap and are only down 3 points. Let's count our blessings and get this thing figured out.

cffighter86 11 years, 3 months ago

Jay what game are you watching that Markieff is playing beautifully?

Brian Powell 11 years, 3 months ago

Two guys trying to dunk: 4 points missed. :( blocked, throwing it out of bounds, etc. We better clean it up from here on out!

frompekka2sasha 11 years, 3 months ago

The HD signal on Directv is looking pretty grainy tonight. I sure hope they fix the problem.

RedRed 11 years, 3 months ago

Get your head in the game !!! Focus, focus, think and do !!

Brian Powell 11 years, 3 months ago

How many times are we going to leave a huge guy WIDE OPEN for a dunk????

BCRavenJHawkfan 11 years, 3 months ago

No doubt Markieff is getting in the paint and showing a willingness not shown before. The only problem is it appears he and his twin played in a high school league that used the short goal, aka the grade school goal where even white guys could dunk.

RedRed 11 years, 3 months ago

Grab the ball MK ... You are not in a practice game !!

cwag 11 years, 3 months ago

For better or worse, this needs to be Cole's team.

BCRavenJHawkfan 11 years, 3 months ago

The masked man truly looks like the Lone Ranger out there.Where the hell is Tonto?And Cisco, for that matter.

Brian Powell 11 years, 3 months ago

It IS amazing how bad we're playing and still only down by two baskets!Terrible defense and offense so far. Especially defense. We're not even contesting wide-open 3s and wide-open dunks. And rebounds? Hit the weightroom!

frompekka2sasha 11 years, 3 months ago

And another missed layup. Sheesh that is frustrating.

RedRed 11 years, 3 months ago

What kind of shot was that ... up and underhand !!

Djibouti 11 years, 3 months ago

Wow. Pathetic play. If the Morris boys can't make a contested layup, then they can't play in the game. We could run the double high screen play, but our 4-spot is no threat to make the layup on the roll to the basket. Ugh. Ehck. Yuk.

Eric Hammond 11 years, 3 months ago

Tyshawn is scared to shoot the ball, unless he is throwing sloppy runners up.

wischalk 11 years, 3 months ago

hell of a rebound there by brady... leading to a nice tt layup.

frompekka2sasha 11 years, 3 months ago

Claps for Marcus Morris! A nice little shot.

Robert Murphy 11 years, 3 months ago

It's a shame to have a team as bad as KU on ESPN. The best player is Brad Morningstar who is mostly sound asleep. The morris' are even less aware of what's going on and this team is beginning to look like a Ted Owens team. Ted could take five high school all americans and after a year of his coaching they would look like they had never played the game. Now let's see, Self decides to start a Morris twin at point guard. Then we can't get a rebound and Taylor dribbles to within 3 feet of the basket and throws it in the stands to an imaginary player who isn't there, for gods sake shoot it when you get that close. What must the practices look like if this is the way they come out and play. This is not entertaining.

kc_wildfire 11 years, 3 months ago

Stop the presses...one of them made a contested shot!!!

jaybate 11 years, 3 months ago

Yea, guys, Kieff is playing great...for him. I'm not saying he's the second coming of Jerry Lucas. I'm saying he's playing tough. He's moving. He's defending. This Baylor team is very good. Kieff carried the inside for awhile. His play fell off when he started to get tired again.The two that are not holding up their end of the log tonight are Tyshawn and Tyrel. Tyshawn is still playing like he's afraid of being touched within 15 feet on offense and when Self brings in Tyrel, Tyrel is a step slow for the guy he's guarding.Still, considering how poorly KU has played of late, and considering how good Baylor is, KU is doing okay.There is still a problem between Sherron and Cole though, and that's the difference between the team now and the team a month ago.

kc_wildfire 11 years, 3 months ago

Doesn't have to be entertaining bobby as long as they end up with more points than the other team at the end of the game.

Eric Hammond 11 years, 3 months ago

Shoot the ball TT. This guy is scared to shoot.

frompekka2sasha 11 years, 3 months ago

In case some don't realize, we are still very young. That would explain our erratic play.

Yakihawk 11 years, 3 months ago

This is a fan chat bobbysfissure-go back to surfing for animal porn ya dirt bag.

RedRed 11 years, 3 months ago

Find Cole ... he is the one under the basket !!

frompekka2sasha 11 years, 3 months ago

HUGE by Sherron. This guy is nails when it counts!

BCRavenJHawkfan 11 years, 3 months ago

I do have to admit, even with all the carping from all of us in the penut gallery we managed to win the half.Miracles still do exist.

Ben Kane 11 years, 3 months ago

i'm with jaybate...Kieff is playing awesome! ( for him anyway) he's missed some shots but he's been aggressive, aware, and sooner or later his shots will start falling which will only give him more confidence. From there we could see a meteoric rise in his performance...this could be the turning point game for him.

cffighter86 11 years, 3 months ago

He has been playing pretty well for him. I agree that he is definitely playing the most agressive and confident that he has all season.

rockchalkin54 11 years, 3 months ago

bobbysfissure-Who in the heck is Brad Morningstar?

frompekka2sasha 11 years, 3 months ago

Don't you know anything about Brad Morningstar? You must live under a rock...http://www.facebook.com/people/Brad-M...

Yakihawk 11 years, 3 months ago

Is anybody else tired of hearing about the Big East? Grant it, the XII isn't that tough this year year, but c'mon, let's hear a little about the rest of the country for Pete's sake!!!

Blake Brown 11 years, 3 months ago

Shades of the last 2 games where we suck and still come out on top at least in the first 20 minutes. What is with the numerous passes into the passing lane without even noticing the defense is overplaying the lane? The twins have done it all season, Sherron too and now Brady. The stars are not aligned for Mairo so far. GET THE BALL INTO THE POST GUYS! IT`S GOLD

Ben Kane 11 years, 3 months ago

lets face it when miami and vt left the big east they decided to turn themselves into a basketball superconference. They are the best conference but they should lose their football bcs auto bid

BCRavenJHawkfan 11 years, 3 months ago

Yaki,I am with you 110% on the Big East as the center of the college basketball universe.If ND and Georgetown had remained ranked after five straight losses I would have had to start watching the NBA.

Ben Kane 11 years, 3 months ago

now it's marcus playing above his head...love it

cffighter86 11 years, 3 months ago

Nice Start to the Half. Marcus Morris is playing awesome right now!

Joe Joseph 11 years, 3 months ago

Apparently Cole violated the "principle of verticality."I don't even know what that means, FRAN!!! GOD I HATE YOU!

BCRavenJHawkfan 11 years, 3 months ago

Yes Marcus playing above his head but those were two opportunities where he should have been playing above the rim.A layup and a layin, come on, jam the damn thing home.

Ben Kane 11 years, 3 months ago

apparently in the first half quick is good for baylor but in the second half good for ku?...

cffighter86 11 years, 3 months ago

^^ LOL...I'm glad I wasn't the only one that heard that and also had no clue in what the hell he meant!!

wischalk 11 years, 3 months ago

what the hell happened to marcus at halftime?? my goodness...

Brian Powell 11 years, 3 months ago

cole can't pick up those fouls on guards way out past the 3 line.... :( But great start to the half -- keep it up!

cffighter86 11 years, 3 months ago

Holy Crap!!! The Morris twins are BALLIN'!!!!!

BCRavenJHawkfan 11 years, 3 months ago

Perhaps Jaybate will entertain us with a disertation on the principles of verticality.Oh what a block by the masked man!!!!

rtjayhawk 11 years, 3 months ago

Well $hit, if one twin is going to get going - get them both going!

Eric Hammond 11 years, 3 months ago

WHERE THE HECK HAS THIS KID BEEN ALL YEAR! Welcome to KU basketball, Marcus!

cwag 11 years, 3 months ago

ESPN audio difficulties = Fran Freschilla

cffighter86 11 years, 3 months ago

OK...where was the foul on Tyshawn....he didnt touch the guy

Cody Stumma 11 years, 3 months ago

And now everybody is loving the Morris Twins. I'm sorry but some of you need to quit being bandwagoners and watch the damn game and quit criticizing on everything! Kansas started off slow, but now its starting to become like a snowball effect.Just 10 minutes ago you wanted them to stay on the bench and now your loving them. Seriously.

rtjayhawk 11 years, 3 months ago

Apparently, coming close to touching someone = a foul. I guess I didn't read that part in the "Officials Guide to Officiating"

Cody Stumma 11 years, 3 months ago

ESPN audio difficulties = Fran FreschillaOh good, I'm not the only one then. I thought it was because of my crappy 13" TV in my dorm room. Lol

wischalk 11 years, 3 months ago

big time phantom foul... meanwhile, marcus got jacked in the face on a layup earlier... and after cole's latest monster block, the dude from baylor tried to rip off his arm. wtf refs?

BCRavenJHawkfan 11 years, 3 months ago

Audio difficulties????What audio difficulties?just kidding.

Joe Joseph 11 years, 3 months ago

Get this Dunn guy out of here. The 40s called and it wants its set-shot back.

jaybate 11 years, 3 months ago

How can you guys say Kieff is not playing his best game of the year?He's active. He's running like a gazelle to set picks. The picks he sets are solid. And I could just kiss him for those elbows he threw early in the game.

Joe Joseph 11 years, 3 months ago

Just when you thought Marciefus wasn't a freshman anymore... fouling a three point shooter

BCRavenJHawkfan 11 years, 3 months ago

Fran may not be the best but at least he has been a consistant Big XII advocate and was in the Kansas camp all year last year while all the rest of ESPNorth Carolina was you know where.

cffighter86 11 years, 3 months ago

cmon...this transition defense the last two possesions have been god awful...

Brian Powell 11 years, 3 months ago

I don't think I've ever got on the Morris wagon. I need to see more than 3 minutes of good plays. Do we need to get the pace back up, or what?What happened? It's like our normal first half: quick burst, then flat.

Brian Powell 11 years, 3 months ago

they are WAYYY overplaying us on D! Dribble penetrate! layup or kickout.. geez

jaybate 11 years, 3 months ago

Tyshawn Taylor is playing like he hasn't got a point guard bone in his body. Just a pitiful display of playing the point. This is what happens when you ask him to run the show against experienced guards. Oh, well, its a time of growth for Tyshawn.Back to Kieff, why do you guys think he was getting the minutes? Even his goof ball foul on the three shooter was a hard foul. Kieff is like a man who has woken up from a long sleep and realized he has a place in the world. Its going to take him to the middle of next season to be a real player, but all he has to do for KU this year is play as hard as he has tonight and the team is a big step better already.

RedRed 11 years, 3 months ago

Don't try to run with them ... that's their game !! We need to play OUR game !

Brian Powell 11 years, 3 months ago

Take your pick?1. leave them open for a baseline dunk2. leave them open for 3sI'll choose in a minute; Have to go puke. BRB

wischalk 11 years, 3 months ago

I understand principles of help defense... but when you have the luxury of Aldrich patrolling the paint, there is no reason for help to sag in THAT FAR and leave someone open by a mile in the corner. We did the same thing against CU and gave them a chance to steal the game.

cffighter86 11 years, 3 months ago

We just need to stop letting them shoot wide open threes....

Joe Joseph 11 years, 3 months ago

QUIT BEING STUPID!! @#($*#(%&!!! THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN ALL CAPS PS!!!!

Joe Joseph 11 years, 3 months ago

chuckberry,I believe they were chanting "Sit down coach"

Ben Kane 11 years, 3 months ago

man someone must have paid the refs a lot of money tonight

cffighter86 11 years, 3 months ago

9 to 3 on foul calls this half... absolute trash officiating if you ask me

kc_wildfire 11 years, 3 months ago

Already in the bonus with over 10:00 to play.

cwag 11 years, 3 months ago

Cole needs a sleeve for his brain with these fouls .....

Ben Kane 11 years, 3 months ago

wow! a charge! when was the last time we got one of those?

Brian Powell 11 years, 3 months ago

YEah, I can't believe we got them to the bonus at 10:00 or so. Sick.4th foul on Cole guarding a guard. I think we're behind in every stat except the score??

cffighter86 11 years, 3 months ago

"Cole needs a sleeve for his brain"....May I politely ask WTF does that mean?

rockchalkin54 11 years, 3 months ago

I thought it was Hightower who always called the nit-picky fouls. What's with these refs tonight?

jaybate 11 years, 3 months ago

Tyshawn, Tyshawn, Tyshawn, what happened to my beautiful Quantum T? He's still got the speed, but now he goes to the rim like Peter Pan!His head is above the freaking rim and he lays it up?What playground did you come from Tyshawn?

Joe Joseph 11 years, 3 months ago

Ranking of announcers I would like to punch in the face:1. Dick Vitale2. Jon Sundvold 3. Fran Fraschilla

BCRavenJHawkfan 11 years, 3 months ago

Dunk, dunk, dunk, dunk.Please dunk it on those follow ups!

rockchalkin54 11 years, 3 months ago

Honestly, have either of the twins tried to dunk more than twice this season?

wischalk 11 years, 3 months ago

omg... i have not seen so many air-fouls in a game... perhaps EVER. utterly ridiculous. this should be reviewed by the Big XII.

cffighter86 11 years, 3 months ago

I think the foul count is 12 to 4 in this half...

Brian Powell 11 years, 3 months ago

dumb foul call. Did Morris touch him with both pinky fingers, therefore both hands? cmon, Let them play a bit!and now we're in the double bogus bonus :(

jaybate 11 years, 3 months ago

Tyrel and Tyshawn don't feed the post. They throw it at the post. It is insane. The bigs make cuts and are open and they don't even try to throw it in. It is like our perimeter players only want to make the pass to the big when he IS covered!

Rodney Stice 11 years, 3 months ago

Thank goodness they refs called a foul against baylor. This officiating reminds me of the superbowl lastnight.

Rodney Stice 11 years, 3 months ago

Collins has made 33 free throws in a row. WOW

RedRed 11 years, 3 months ago

MK is grabing every rebound ! Feeds Mario ... Awesome !!

BCRavenJHawkfan 11 years, 3 months ago

This is a very perplexing issue on why the twins do not dunk.They clearly can elevate, their rebounding has shown they can.

Ben Kane 11 years, 3 months ago

going back to my earlier statement... i hope this is the turning point game for kieff that we've been hoping for...maybe for marcus as well

jayhawkansas 11 years, 3 months ago

best possession of the season right there

Cody Stumma 11 years, 3 months ago

Fight! Fight! Fight! LolWho was going to win that brawl beneath the basket? Lol

cffighter86 11 years, 3 months ago

You would think with him making 33 straight free throws in a row that his FT shooting % would be higher than 83%...did ESPN throw up a bad stat or is he truly shooting 83% from the line?

NH_JHawk 11 years, 3 months ago

great hustle on that play! we gotta have that type of intensity for the final 3 min.

Brian Powell 11 years, 3 months ago

NICE HUSTLE BOYS!!! now finish these teddy bears off. I mean rip out the stuffing.

Joe Joseph 11 years, 3 months ago

Apparently the refs have traveling confused with fouling.

rockchalkin54 11 years, 3 months ago

That was some awesome hustle! By everybody!

CaramelMacchMan 11 years, 3 months ago

If Collins misses the next free throw..... phoenixjayhawk to blame!!! seriously man!!

Joe Joseph 11 years, 3 months ago

"Forest Gump and a box of chocolates..."Jesus Mary & Joseph, Fran! STFU!

Jesse Newell 11 years, 3 months ago

Collins was shooting 84.4 percent from the line coming into tonight.

wischalk 11 years, 3 months ago

I would say that 9:04 without a FG for Baylor indicates some pretty slick defense... but that is definitely NOT that case. The truth is they haven't had a FG because they have been at the line almost every possession since these refs seem to have having narcotic withdrawal hallucinations...

Brian Powell 11 years, 3 months ago

For a second, I thought the announcers were going to accidentally kiss.

Rodney Stice 11 years, 3 months ago

caramel,the announcers said it first. Collins is awesome.

cffighter86 11 years, 3 months ago

Thanks Jesse, I had a feeling that ESPN threw a incorrect stat up there..

Joe Joseph 11 years, 3 months ago

Correction:1. Fran Fraschilla2. Dick Vitale3. Jon Sundvold

Brian Powell 11 years, 3 months ago

WEll, that no call makes up for... .the whole game? :P

cwag 11 years, 3 months ago

Jon Sundvold went to Mizzwho - he can't be lower than 1a.

Ben Kane 11 years, 3 months ago

it was a good no call...that guy took a dive

Joe Joseph 11 years, 3 months ago

When was the last time it felt this good to beat Baylor? Ever?

BCRavenJHawkfan 11 years, 3 months ago

Another nice little soft, delicate, whispery layin by one of the twins.Dunk, Dunk, dunk!!!!!Please Dunk!

DalTXJayhawk 11 years, 3 months ago

Clearing out now, but there were a lot of empty seats.

Brian Powell 11 years, 3 months ago

Yeah , I agree it was a dive.... but the travel was funny :)

Brian Powell 11 years, 3 months ago

Raise your hand if you care about Baylor football:

Joe Joseph 11 years, 3 months ago

One more terrible foul call for the road...

cwag 11 years, 3 months ago

Well, the execution wasn't there, but the effort was. Good win, imho. As young as we are, these conference road wars can only make us better.

Brandon Winkler 11 years, 3 months ago

and that will do it folksi hope that this time next monday we are celebrating a WINROCK CHALK

Ben Kane 11 years, 3 months ago

well at least he broke the record before he missed

NH_JHawk 11 years, 3 months ago

Despite the overall sloppy play and awful first half, we won a key conference road game against a quality south opponent. some how we keep finding ways to win which is key if we're going to go dancing next month. dont think this effort will be enough to win the games with OU or UT though.

BCRavenJHawkfan 11 years, 3 months ago

I know we don't need the points but for goodness sakes if Cole is all alone under the basket.....THROW IT TO HIM!!!!!!

wischalk 11 years, 3 months ago

The SINGLE WORST officiated game I have seen in YEARS... but a good win playing through that nonsense, even if it was against a team that plays shoddy defense.

rockchalkin54 11 years, 3 months ago

I blame wischalk. You just said he will never miss and what happens? Seriously dude.

CaramelMacchMan 11 years, 3 months ago

funniest thing i have ever seen on TV...Rock chalk chant at Baylor and the bench of the Baylor looking around wondering... what the..! is this our house or their house???

Joe Joseph 11 years, 3 months ago

How about Mario Little for second half MVP? -next to Sherron of course

jayhawkansas 11 years, 3 months ago

i dont care if the morris twins granny shot it in, as long as it GOES IN....great win jayhawks

Brian Powell 11 years, 3 months ago

Baylor idiots. Seriously. You can't let us run out the last 30 seconds?? lol that's typical of why I really really really dislike the whole state of Texas.

RedRed 11 years, 3 months ago

Turn Out the Lights ... The Party is Over !!

Rodney Stice 11 years, 3 months ago

Baylor players do not look to disappointed in the loss. A couple even were smiling.

Alex Lent 11 years, 3 months ago

Good win youngsters! Morris twins; the first half was pitiful, but wow, the lights came on for you guys! I'm impressed! See how we can look when we get production out of those two! Watch out Oklahoma! (well, not yet, alot of season left...but you know)

Tony Bandle 11 years, 3 months ago

Green and yellow huesFail to blind the Crimson/BlueVictory assuredRemember...the last two letters of Haiku are KUThe Undefeated Dream continues, 7-0 in conference. Everybody believe...or am I still the only one.Anyway...GO HAWKS!!!!!!

pmohr13 11 years, 3 months ago

did i hear the announcer say reed and brady were young sophs? is brady like 23?

mjlindsm 11 years, 3 months ago

Jesse, I love the random notes about Waco/Baylor. Very Ryan Greene-like random humor. Speaking of which, you going to get the Spodcasters going again? Last year that was half (okay, maybe a quarter) of the fun of the great season.

Blake Brown 11 years, 3 months ago

Big game. Big win. Great 2nd half. Much better motion offense in the 2nd half. Everyone involved. One game at a time.

jaybate 11 years, 3 months ago

Kieff and Little and Kieff and Cus are the only pairing of bigs that played well together tonight. Kieff and Little played the best together.Cole keeps doing his thing, but he is not meshing with the other bigs, or they are not meshing with him.Also, Cole has completely forgotten how to set a pick.I never thought I would live to see the day when Kieff sets stronger picks than Cole.This was a big win tonight for this team. They proved they could win it down the stretch without Cole. Self was making them win it without Cole. The team chemistry has, for better or worse, changed. This is no long Sherron's and Cole's team.This is Sherron's team.Little looked more like a basketball player and less like a physical talent tonight. He actually did some smart things tonight and grabbed a couple of important rebounds down the stretch.Brady and Tyler each made some stupid plays down the stretch, but Brady was solid most of the rest of the game. Tyrel was just not on his game and a little mismatched, but it is a testament to how weak Tyshawn played tonight that Reed got so many minutes even though he wasn't playing well.I forecast the four to be a possible decisive edge for us and it turned out to be. Mario and Marcus played very well as a composite player.Still, the guy who blew me away tonight as the most changed player was Markieff Morris. I mean it is like someone took him off his sedatives and the real Kieff came to play. He was RUNNING to positions on the floor. He really looked like a basketball player out there.Prediction: If the new Kieff is the Kieff we are going to see from now on, Kieff Morris is going to be a real force by the second half of next season.

jonhitch 11 years, 3 months ago

Great game......terrible ref's. What happened to rules and objectivity?Gone, I guess.

TtownHawk 11 years, 3 months ago

Headline should read: FINAL: Morris twins shine...IN SECOND HALF in KU’s 75-65 victory over Baylor well i expect not to get the majority of calls on the road but this was kind of ridiculous.

jasonsgill 11 years, 3 months ago

Everyone who failed to see potential in the twins until today needs to go back to the tape and learn to evaluate talent./feeling vindicated//unjustified///maybe not

jaybate 11 years, 3 months ago

Post Script:John Wall, do not waste your time in Waco.Coach Bill Self put on a coaching clinic tonight. This is the way a great coach coaches, when he hasn't got all the cards.Scott had more talent.Scott had more experience.But Scott can't adapt.Scott can't exploit mismatches.Frankly, Coach Bill Self beat Baylor tonight.Self milked every last thing he could out of his team.Scott just had his guys playing well. He didn't create any advantages for them. Scott had a big lug who really stymied KU's inside game the first half, and Scott never went back to his lug in the second half. Scott blew it. By the end of the game, Scott looked like a deer caught in the headlights. Scott looked like Roy Williams last year in the semifinals. Scott had been out maneuvered by the wilyest coach in college basketball.Bill Self is coaching at such a high level it is unbelievable. Bill Self creates half of the problems this team has just because he is exploring new ways for his team to play. Bill Self is like some master racing mechanic who is so good that even when the car is running well, he decides to take it apart and see if it will run better another way, because he has so much confidence in his ability to make it run every which way it can.Bill Self is the bravest coach I have EVER seen at taking teams apart in mid season and rebuilding them on the fly. He is insanely good.In games, he is like a savant.Half the time he doesn't even know how he is doing what he is doing until after he does it.He isn't perfect. There are times when he could probably let well enough alone.But the guy is just insane about getting better.Within the canon of Eddie Ball, Self is this frigging Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart to Eddie's Joseph Haydn. Haydn was the father of the symphony and the string quartet, but it was Mozart that showed the world what these creations of Haydn could really do.We're witnessing greatness out here people. Bill Self is not utterly in control. Great genius is always just a little out of control in the moment of doing it.He is creating as he goes along, too.Sometimes he's so good its scary.Ask Roy and Scott Drew.

Jesse Newell 11 years, 3 months ago

I promised someone else two Spodcasters this week — one for football signing day and one for basketball.I'll try to stay true to my promise.

Tony Bandle 11 years, 3 months ago

Watching KU win is better than SEX!!!! Well, almost as good anyway. I think we really helped ourselves with John Wall tonight. I frankly don't think Baylor is much of a player anymore, so it's between KU and MUMP-PUSS with Coach Calimari.The key will be Collins declaring for the NBA. If that's the case, John saw how a dominant point guard/shooting guard penetrator will be given charge of the KU offense.And even if Tyreke Evans declares, Wall still won't have to contend with Xavier Henry for shots if he chooses to come to KU. {sorry, I still feel Wall will probably choose the bright light of Memphis, but there is always hope}.John, if you read these posts, I agree with Jaybate.....Bill Self not only knows how to bring talent to the table, he makes sure everyone can cook, serve and wash the dishes.

jaybate 11 years, 3 months ago

jasonsgill.High horsing it about being right about the Twins, eh?First, everyone with a brain knows they have talent (even the lowly jaybate), and knows they will mature into good players. Are there some basketball challenged folks around here who don't think so? Yea, but not that many actually. And the ones who don't know squat are getting schooled inexorably by the many, many knowledgeable folks here. That's the great thing about the net.Second, the reason everyone has been busting the Twins chops is that they have played like feces for over a month now, when it was obvious they had the tools to do better and often times were just going through the motions. Put another way, their problems appeared to have had less to do with youth and more to do with hurt feelings at not being more appreciated. Third, they really only started playing hard after sulking a game or two after their minutes went down because of Little, and with the arrival of Withey. If I were Kieff, Withey showing up would light a fire under me but good. Now, they've gotten the message AND Self flattered Marcus with starting again, so they are both through their funks...at least for a game. :-)Fourth, I for one have defended their production all along and said they were doing as well or better than many of KU's past bigs when they were young, and that they make a perfectly respectable composite player even now. I am hardly alone on this either.Fifth, it is a testament to how good they are as athletes that they are even able to stay on the floor at this level, given that they are skinny, weak freshman that can't even the trainer on a team like Michigan State. I mean these gifted sticks are having to hang with some serious studs and its got to be very scary for them at times. They make a basket, or throw an elbow and no one is the least bit scared of them. In fact, the Twins get floored whenever they even try to strut their stuff a little against the good teams. They don't have jumps and their upper body strength is presently a joke. But anyone can see that a year's growth and maturity combined with weightlifting is going to turn them into adequately strong D1 bigs next year, and serious studs the year after, if they stay that long.

jaybate 11 years, 3 months ago

"Bill Self not only knows how to bring talent to the table, he makes sure everyone can cook, serve and wash the dishes."--OakvilleJHawk,Stellar writing.

Kevin Pavey 11 years, 3 months ago

jay -love your posts...very insightful, but get off your knees (no, not that, I'm referring to the deification of a basketball coach). Coach Self is a great recruiter and coach but he would be the first to say sometimes he's rollin' the dice. He's searching for the right combinations on the floor. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.Great win 'hawks! The Morris twins brought it tonite and the masked avenger can shoot with either hand!

Martin Rosenblum 11 years, 3 months ago

So, Bill is a hybrid of Emeril, The Iron Chef and Ted Owens? BTW, I've always wanted to know something. Does anybody know why Lew Perkins has a headset on at the table during games?

Lance Hobson 11 years, 3 months ago

Is it really helping us having Brady M play 40 minutes? He doesn't make many mistakes, but they are fairly empty minutes. Six points, one assist, not much else. Somebody explain how this is good for us.

Chris Seferyn 11 years, 3 months ago

Brady is playing a lot because he does not miss many defensive assignments. If we had another big man and Mario were healthy from the get Brady would be our 6th man. Self is doing a great job of coaching a team with one big man. The twins are athletic but they can't keep anybody off the post; however they are getting better. You gotta give our one big guy credit for standing on that island every game and getting shot at like the Sands of Iwo Jima... and how about Tyrel looking for the big shot 3 games in a row?This board is positively giddy tonight, isn't it? It's fun to watch over-achieving teams...

jayhawker_97 11 years, 3 months ago

wipe your mouths clean, hey twins bashers!dont' drool over what Morris twins can deliver. it's Christmas in springtime!this is just the beginning. i still believe they can do more. awesome performance by Little, too.great job, er'one in the team!rock chalk!!! i'm so pumped up - cant' wait to see Griffin held scoreless by KU one more time!

Theutus 11 years, 3 months ago

I've always thought the twins had good basketball in them.... It's a matter of them playing aggressive and intelligently. They played a lot more intelligent in the second half, and aggressiveness was there... But i'd still like to see them in better shape, ie: dunking.Once again I'm going to completely disagree with Jaybate. I think Collins has been mediocre at best in the last couple performances (barring his free throw shooting). He turns the ball over too often, and he forces too much crap over and over. Too often he is coming down the court, not making a SINGLE pass and forcing some terrible shots. Hell, multiple times tonight he just dribbled at the point until the clock was down, and drove to the whole. The entire time ignoring his team. That is anything BUT leadership. You can even watch the tape and see his teammates getting angry about it.That being said, i think Little comes in as the TRUE big brother/Leader. The guy I think the players REALLY look up to. He's got the heart, and the big brother attitude and when he's in, he's fighting on every possession.I'll also disagree with Jaybate on the Aldrich issue. When Aldrich is out, we HURT on the boards. We got lucky tonight because quite frankly Baylor played terribly. When Cole comes out, we see a huge lack of defense and rebounding.... I'd much rather have Collins out, and Cole in than vice versa.Anyway, thats my peace.... I'm sure others disagree.

PlayinWithMyBillSelf 11 years, 3 months ago

The twins are coming along fine, as evidence in our last two games. They will surely make bonehead plays at times the rest of the year, but they are still just freshmen who are still learning how to play smart, team-first basetball and fans need to be patient with them.And on John Wall, if he chooses KU then great. If not, and he goes to that NBDL program known as the Memphis Tigers, he is pretty much saying he only wants to showcase his one-on-one talent for a year before jumping ship to the pro's...and in that case, KU is better off without him

kc_wildfire 11 years, 3 months ago

The twins had a great second half after a miserable first twenty minutes. I think the second half is more like what they can bring to the game night in and night out because everyone knows they have great upside.However, I am not quite ready to jump on the bandwagon of them "breaking out" after just one very solid half against a Baylor team that has one interior player of any considerable talent. If the twins can match, or even come close to last nights performance against a team with some inside depth and force, like MU next week, then I will gladly jump on wagon that Jaybate is driving.

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