Monday, December 28, 2009

It’s not unanimous, but Jayhawks stay atop both polls

Texas grabs three first-place votes in coaches poll


The Kansas men's basketball team remains atop both college basketball polls.

The Jayhawks received 52 of 65 first-place votes in the Associated Press poll and 28 of 31 first-place votes in the ESPN/USA Today coaches poll. Last week, KU earned all 31 first-place votes in the coaches poll.

Other Big 12 teams in the rankings include Texas (No. 2 AP/No. 2 coaches), Kansas State (12/12) and Texas Tech (20, 24). KU's Jan. 2 opponent, Temple, also is ranked 18th in the AP and 19th in the coaches poll.

The full rankings are below.

See how Journal-World sports editor Tom Keegan voted on his Associated Press ballot.

Associated Press Poll

  1. Kansas Jayhawks (52)
  2. Texas Longhorns (11)
  3. Kentucky Wildcats (1)
  4. Purdue Boilermakers
  5. Syracuse Orange (1)
  6. West Virginia Mountaineers
  7. Duke Blue Devils
  8. Villanova Wildcats
  9. North Carolina Tar Heels
  10. Connecticut Huskies
  11. Michigan State Spartans
  12. Kansas State Wildcats
  13. Georgetown Hoyas
  14. Tennessee Volunteers
  15. Ohio State Buckeyes
  16. Ole Miss Rebels
  17. Washington Huskies
  18. Temple Owls
  19. New Mexico Lobos
  20. Texas Tech Red Raiders
  21. Clemson Tigers
  22. Florida State Seminoles
  23. Wisconsin Badgers
  24. UAB Blazers
  25. Northwestern Wildcats

Others receiving votes: Gonzaga 129, Georgia Tech 102, Dayton 94, Texas A&M; 91, Florida 76, Miami-Florida 60, BYU 55, Oklahoma State 37, Wichita State 35, USC 27, UNLV 26, Butler 19, Memphis 16, Mississippi State 13, Wake Forest 12, St. John's 10, Virginia Tech 7, California 7, Cincinnati 7, Baylor 7, Cornell 5, Missouri State 5, Northern Iowa 5, Rhode Island 5, William & Mary 5, Seton Hall 2, Army 1.

ESPN/USA Today coaches poll

  1. Kansas (28)
  2. Texas (3)
  3. Kentucky
  4. Purdue
  5. Syracuse
  6. West Virginia
  7. Duke
  8. Villanova
  9. North Carolina
  10. Connecticut
  11. Michigan State
  12. Kansas State
  13. Georgetown
  14. Tennessee
  15. Ohio State
  16. Washington
  17. New Mexico
  18. Clemson
  19. Temple
  20. Georgia Tech
  21. Mississippi
  22. Gonzaga
  23. Butler
  24. Texas Tech
  25. Florida State

Others receiving votes: Florida 60, UNLV 51, Brigham Young 49, Wisconsin 49, Northwestern 43, Alabama-Birmingham 33, Dayton 25, Oklahoma State 22, Texas A&M; 16, William & Mary 13, Illinois 12, Saint Mary's 12, Southern California 12, Cincinnati 11, Washington State 11, Cornell 8, Northern Iowa 8, Wake Forest 8, Richmond 6, St. John's 6, California 5, Louisville 5, Old Dominion 4, Arizona State 2, Charlotte 2, Virginia Tech 2, Minnesota 1, Wichita State 1.


jayhawkjoe98 10 years, 2 months ago

Baylor getting some love in the AP!

Question: When was the last time Baylor was ranked?

Eric Williams 10 years, 2 months ago

Baylor was last ranked #23 in the Coaches Poll on January 19, 2009.

AP Poll at #21 on January 12, 2009.

kesmithstl1 10 years, 2 months ago

polls are meaningless, however, if someone is going to be #1 it might as well be KU! RCJH!

Steve Brown 10 years, 2 months ago

At this stage polls don't count for much, true. Yet better to be #1 than just 'top five'.

When you arrive Temple, Tennessee, etc. you might as well hype up the game to the home crowd fever pitch, help insure full hostile house, get more ESPN exposure, and then when you put your foot on their neck, let everyone from that school, especially the players, relax and lose and say, well we gave the No. 1 team a great game, when they call home to mommy later that night.

From the "oh say can you see" don't let them think there is a chance .... pound them.

Dan Pawlowski 10 years, 2 months ago

1 , Just a bullet on your back baby.

Sorry , I just realized that sounds a little like something Dickie V would say.

prairie_rattler 10 years, 2 months ago

Boulder.. I think Vitale would have at least gotten the metaphor right... a bullet???? : )

KU 10 years, 2 months ago

A lot of good teams out there right now and none that are truly spectacular. Of the top 11 teams in the AP poll, I would say every one but Duke and Purdue have legitimate shots of winning it all--Duke because (as usual) they have a pathetic inside presence and Purdue because they....well hell.....they are a Big 10 team that's not Sparty to be honest.

If KU doesn't rachet up the defense, we aren't even a lock to be the best team in the North (K-State), let alone the Big 12. Don't take me seriously at your peril, but K-State plays much better D than KU right now. As I said several weeks ago, their guards will give KU all they can handle, especially in Manhattan.

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago

KU will beat Texas 7 times out of ten with Brady back.

KU will beat Texas 8 times out of ten, if either TRob, or Withey, become legit D1 bigs by the time KU plays UT.

KU will beat Texas 9 times out of ten, if both TRob and Withey become legit D1 bigs by the time KU plays UT.

Here are the crucial numbers that tell why :

Team, 3%, FT%, RPG KU 42.9%, 67.6%, 42.6 UT 33.9%, 61.2%, 45.6

Texas's shooting is so bad that it can't beat any decent shooting team that can defend and rebound with it.

KU is a very good shooting team that can easily defend with UT and likely board just fine with them, too.

And Texas will not be able to intimidate KU the way Butcher Barnes does most teams. Roy's green kids just plain got scared off the court by Rick's bullies. Not gonna happen against KU.

The Texas victory over MSU matched up two butcher ballers that can't hit the broad sides of barns. Texas was a little better; that's all, but they both suck offensively.

Further, KU has averaged 3 fewer reebs per game, at 42.6, but that has been with Cole playing at about 60% of his ability. That gap will certainly close, if Cole gets healthy.

If KU were to have TRob and Withey give credible minutes and 5 fouls a piece on the blocks, KU will simply wear Texas down inside and crush them. Dexter will be fouled up the first half, and fouled out with ten minutes to go. Damion James will be fouled up the second half, too, with X and Brady hounding him on defense and Damion having to chase X on offense.

Eleven first place votes for Texas?

The Bushes are buying sports writers again.

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago


I haven't seen KSU play yet, but now that Brady's back and the KU perimeter players can quit worrying about fouling, and assuming Cole gets healthy, KSU is suddenly going to look just like what they probably are: a good 6-7 man team about to run into a good 8-9 man team. In today's physical game, where great players can be butchered into submission, quality depth, not great players, decide most games. So: if Cole stays sick, and TRob keeps playing as he has, and Withey remains a nonentity, then you are probably right to worry about KSU. Martin produces hard nosed teams that can defend.

KU 10 years, 2 months ago

jaybate.....You have a point about depth. That's why I specifically said KSU would give KU a run at Manhattan, particularly. They have arguably the best home court advantage in the Big 12 once a year--the time they play KU. The home court can make up for their inferior depth on that night. In the conference tourney, it's basically the toughest team--physically and mentally--that's gonna win. I would think KU could beat them 2 out of 3.

I'm afraid the mythology surrounding Withey is trumped up. After all, the kid hasn't played a game since high school. I'm sure he will be good, eventually. But I'm not going to put much stock in his game until I've seen him actually PLAY 6 or 8 games. I doubt he's going to be the difference against UT on Feb 8. I've seen enough of Robinson to believe he's going to be hit or miss the rest of this year. I'm sure he will get more consistent as the season progresses, but I'm not putting my faith in him to be the difference maker against UT.

At this point, you can count on our core--Cole, Sherron, X, Marcus, TT, Brady, Markieff and to a lesser extent Tyrel and CJ. The rest is a crap shoot. Note: our core is currently ONLY 7 players that can compete at a championship level.

UT has more quality depth, but we have the better coach. The next month will tell whether Self has earned his respect as a great coach and the millions of dollars he is paid. If we come out of January clearly a better team with a couple more pieces to help the depth, he has done his job.

KU 10 years, 2 months ago

As an example of UT's depth, Justin Mason is about 9th or 10th in terms of playing time. If I'm not mistaken, he started his first 2 or 3 years at UT (if not, he played about 25 or 30 minutes per game) and I thought the kid was very solid. I would clearly take him over Tyrel and it would be a toss-up with Brady.

As it stands today (we have a little over a month to improve), UT's guard play will really mess with KU's relatively weak ball handlers, especially in Austin. X must continue to improve his physicality and his defense in the interim to make sure he's ready to wash the productivity of Damion James at the 3 spot.

KU 10 years, 2 months ago

The way I see it right now (still early in the year), KU's advantage over most top-tier teams is at the 3-4-5 spots. At the 1 and 2, we are adequate, but not spectacular. (I realize that's gonna piss off a lot of people who think Sherron is the best point guard we've had.) I see Sherron as being conflicted right now as to whether he's a team-first distributor or a scorer; in any case, he doesn't fit the pure point guard mold. (I realize Self likes to have 2 combo guards in the game, but when the chips are down and you're playing a great defensive team, you NEED a point guard mentality on the floor.) The problem is, I think our best point guard (Elijah) isn't in Self's "circle of trust" (Meet the Parents reference) yet. Self thinks Sherron, TT and Brady are sufficient to win a championship. The tell-tale sign is that Tyrel is getting PT and Elijah is sitting since Brady is back.

Fortunately, there aren't many teams with a front court that can match us and few teams with a back court that can overwhelm us. But they are out there.....on a given night.

Scott Lippoldt 10 years, 2 months ago

Prairie Rattler: I actually didn't catch it when I read the original post. Too funny--thanks! :-)

melrank 10 years, 2 months ago

KU - I agree with many of your points - well done.

Withey isn't going to make a significant impact this year in big situations, so your use of the word myth will prove to be quite prophetic. At best (short of an injury), he will be our 5th option inside and we aren't going to be running 5 post guys in very many games.

RE: Texas - I feel confident our bigs can bang, board, and wear down Texas on the inside, but the game will ultimately be won on the perimeter. Can we handle their aggressive on the ball pressure? Will we be able to get the ball inside effectively when they are inside our jerseys? Will we be able to penetrate enough to draw some help to open up our three point shooters? Can their young guards handle our pressure? Can we stop penetration or will we get killed on the boards because our bigs are continually leaving their man to stop the drive to the lane? Whose going to have the Mario Chalmers-ice-in-the-veins blood that allows for clutch shooting during the biggest game of the regular season? Will X show up? Which Tyshawn will show up?

Our guards don't need to win the game for us, they just can't lose it. If we can play them to a draw on the perimeter, we will win this game, because our size and depth inside will create enough of an advantage to put us over the top.

With all due respect, Sarge, beating Texas 9 out of 10 is an absolute pipe dream even on a neutral court.

melrank 10 years, 2 months ago

KU - I see that I echoed your points on the guard play. My last post took me a while and you beat me to the punch. Again, you're spot on.

KU 10 years, 2 months ago

melrank......Great questions in your first post. The enjoyment over the next month will be seeing the answers to those questions come to light.

Wouldn't you love to see a best of 3 series with KU and UT? At KC in the Big 12 tourney Indy in the National Championship. Wow. It could be epic.

KU 10 years, 2 months ago

And I wouldn't get too wrapped up in raw rebound figures. Texas plays at a faster pace than KU with more possessions per game, so there are bound to be more rebounds. The true test is rebound margin. Texas is still a better rebounding team (by about 2 board margin per game). But I'm afraid we are particularly weak where they are strong: we give up a lot of offensive rebounds. UT can make teams pay for 2nd or 3rd chance points like no other team right now. As it stands now, I would look for 2nd chance points to play a major role in determining who wins in Austin on Feb 8.

melrank 10 years, 2 months ago

Texas' 2nd chance points are going to be a direct result of guard play. If we can keep their guards out of the lane, we can put a body on their bigs and negate rebound put-backs.

Our guards need to board, too. You can expect a lot of long rebounds in this game because there will be lots of 3 point shooting. Unfortunately, X, Sherron and Ty combine for less than 8 rebounds a game. Not good enough. We need to get more hustle rebounds.

I'm not sure what position James plays, but we have to find someone who can slow that guy down when he is on the perimeter.

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago

Monday Night During Getting Better Week Anticipating KU Will Soon Separate from the Rest of the Single Stage Top Ten Teams Like a Two-Stage Launch Vehicle Lighting the Candle on a Second Stage Booster:

There is a lot of uncertainty about this KU team right now inside and outside KU nation. The presstitutes are sucking up to Tayhoss with eleven first place votes, because Tayhoss, a lousy shooting team, beat a green, hopelessly skinny UNC team and a Chigan State team that couldn't hit the backboard from the free throw line with an M24 Sniper Rifle. Presstititutes are what they are and do what they do. I have to live with it.

But I am a bit surprised by the hand wringing from inside Jayhawk nation. They are knowledgeable persons. If they are dry washing their hands, maybe ol' jaybate should be, too.

But ol'jaybate just doesn't see it half empty right now. Maybe because he is all full of the holiday spirit. Or maybe because he mainlined too much spiked eggnog. No...I haven't had a drop this holiday season. So what then? Why is ol'jaybate, a guy who can see look gift horses in the mouths with the best of them, saying, "Hey, that horse is gonna run down the stretch." And why is he mixing metaphors so carelessly?

Well, I have no excuse for mixing metaphors. I'm just being damned careless.

But I do suspect people are overlooking that KU has a way higher ceiling second semester than any of the other Top Ten teams at this point. Self had to play it conservatively till semester break, because he suspended Brady, red shirted two terrific players and then saw Cole and Tyshawn struggle with injuries and illnesses, while CJ, a guy he once said he expected to play big minutes, could never get healthy enough to play much.

Take a deep breath here and be patient, whilst I go around the barn a bit.

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago

Young teams like UK this year (and KU last year) improve a lot, and their coaches rev them up early several times for games to build confidence, so they look good early, and look like they could get a whole lot better. But really they only improve incrementally as the season goes on. They don't have major spikes.

Then there are substantially new teams, like Texas, with a large mix of new and returning players for a nucleus. Coaches also rev up these "new" teams a lot early, because they need to form a personality and self confidence. There amped up early showings are strong make us expect a lot more improvement the second half, but again there improvement is usually incremental.

Then you come to a team like KU that returns basically in tact with only the need to integrate one fresh face to the nucleus and 1-3 in 10 minute per game substitute roles and this sort of team can win without getting up for games. Coaches of these teams spend the early season focusing on developing new dimensions of how they can play the game. These teams always make people ask if they are really as good as their rankings, because they are overwhelming people and playing their best.

But this KU team is really still another notch beyond the kind of team just described.

This KU team is adding three players after mid year (Brady, Withey, and in effect CJ) that would constitute the nucleus of a very good basketball team at any other school. It may take a while, but sooner or later this second semester, this threesome is going to push an already very good, but thin 7 man team into an absolute monster of a ten man team.

I repeat, no other Top Ten team in the country is going to have this kind of spike in improvement, if Coach Self can fit the pieces together in time for February and March.

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago

Let me break it down a bit farther and try to distill what makes persons underestimate how much better KU is probably going to get from now till March:

a) Unlike all the other Top Ten teams that have already had to be amped up for challenging opponents, Self really has not maximally amped the team up for a single game yet (when he does, they will look an order of magnitude quicker and more intense);

b) KU, as far as I know, is the only Top Ten team to add a perimeter starter with a 42 percent trey and lock down defense, plus a 7 footer on the blocks, the latter 8th ranked in his recruiting class (note: Self said in a story today that Withey can help a lot, when he gets back in shape and so Withey's contribution this season is most likely going to be 10 very productive minutes a game down the stretch);

c) Cole has played at vastly less that his best because of illness and still struggled to ten boards a game and 8-12 ppg (note: with good health, he should easily climb to a 20/15 guy); and

d) CJ has almost not played so far (though the brief glimpses of him suggest an exceptional player), and will almost certainly get his shot second semester, since Elijah has shown little sign of being ready for the point this year (Note: no other Top Ten team is likely to add a back-up PG to the mix the second half of the season that is remotely close to being as good as CJ--CJ remains perhaps Self's biggest hole card still face down).

At some point late in this second semester this teams improvement curve is apt to go vertical for a few games and KU is already ranked Number 1.

I realize fecal matter happens that could change things, but this really is how the season is shaping up.

All the other Top Ten teams are progressing very normally in increments right along with KU right now.

The difference is: KU is going to go into hyper drive some time soon and the rest of the Top Ten teams are going to continue improving incrementally.

This could be absolutely stunning to watch KU separate from the pack, while doing so already being Number One.

Houston, the second stage booster is ready and its T minus 30 to 45 days and counting.

Rock chalk!

wtarush 10 years, 2 months ago

Love to see it said, "rankings don't matter". Try telling that to a five star recruit who wants national exposure, or to a future recruit who is just now getting into the game. Success breeds Success.

yates33333 10 years, 2 months ago

Jaybate, Rock Chalk!

Wonder why Keegan didn't vote for Texas as number 1 this week?

jayhwkroks 10 years, 2 months ago

I'm a KU fan through and through! I live here in Wichita and can't believe that Wichita St. isn't getting showed more love. They are 11-1 and had beaten Texas Tech yet they only get one vote in the coaches pole. Teams like Charolette and Old Dominion get more votes. Come on please!!!!!!!! That shows that these poles don't necessarily mean squat. I believe the Jayhawks should be number 1 until they stumble. Its not easy carrying the #1 bullseye on your chest no matter who you are playing because all teams see that as being a big boost to their program if they could get a win. HCBS knows how to get his teams prepared and keep his players heads focused in the right direction. GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!

hawkward1 10 years, 2 months ago

jayhwkroks - you're right, the "poles" don't mean squat, just ask some old Nazis. Those darned poles!

WilburNether 10 years, 2 months ago

jaybate wrote: "And Texas will not be able to intimidate KU the way Butcher Barnes does most teams. Roy's green kids just plain got scared off the court by Rick's bullies."

Yeah, poor Nick Collison sure was scared right off the Allen Field House court by Texas, wasn't he? Why, he was so scared that Dick Vitale gave him a standing ovation for his incredible performance in that great win when Nick left the game. Yeah, Nick sure was just plain scared in that game, all right.


KU 10 years, 2 months ago

Wilbur.....I think jaybate was referring to the UNC-UT game that was just played in the new Cowboys Stadium, not Roy's KU teams--although Roy's KU teams were often pretty soft and intimidated at times physically. If you look at UNC's team this year, most of their post players are about 6-10 and scrawny--Zeller, the goofy twins, etc.

Dan Pawlowski 10 years, 2 months ago

prairie_rattler, yeah my bad. Obviously it should have been.

1, 'Just another bullseye on your back baby"

Yea, Dickie V would have at least gotten the metaphor correct, but he probably would have practiced it several times before delivering it.

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago


Some Reasons Tom May Have Changed His #1 Vote Back to KU:

} KU played a little better, and Tom realized how sick Cole has been, and how injured Tyshawn has been, and how much better Brady made the team already and decided KU deserved to be number one.

} The job opening at the Austin Statesman was filled.

Or the one I prefer...

} Tom, embittered from not working in a larger media market, went all George Bailey on Christmas Eve, jumped off a river bridge out of town into the icy waters of the Wakarusa, was saved by a bumbling angel named jaybate, who allowed him to see how vile life would have become in Lawrence had Tom not lived; that is...

how bad this web site would have become without him, how his wife would have become an old spinster in Buffalo, how Bill Mayer would now be a retired rummy in an Alzheimer's ward, how Chuck Woodling would be on foodstamps in Columbia turning journalistic tricks for the Antlers, how Bill Self would have been fired for getting in a fist fight with Jason Whitlock (who became the LJW sports editor instead of Tom), how Lew Perkins would have been fired for the intersport West Side Story schtick this summer without Tom managing the flow of information fairly and responsibly, how Nick Krug would be doing snuff movies and pots and pans spreads for department stores in LA, how spouses of all the board rats would have to listen to interminable rants about KU basketball instead of their spouses venting them harmlessly on (which would exist only as an unused portal for male sexual enlargement ads), and how Jenny Craig would have hung herself in despair without the long term goal of one day crowning all her celebrity ads with a Tom Keegan spread.

It was all too much for Tom!

Tom ran again to the old river bridge in a blinding flurry of snow flakes on the coal black night and cried out, "I want to live, god, I want to see my board rats again. I want to be with my family! I want to vote KU Number One again. Please let me live again!!!"

Fortunately, God was wearing his hearing aids that night and was not preoccupied with a fat man in a red suit making gross domestic product deliveries to chimnies. God granted Tom his wish.

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago

Tom immediately voted KU Number One, as god intended Tom to do, and his bumbling angel, jaybate, was given his wings at long last. Tom, holding his wife and children close after a KU victory over tiny Belmont, a game that had not yet even been played in real life, looked up at the score board along with his beautiful daughter, who called, "Look, Daddy, the scoreboard is blinking "Rock Chalk!" Tom said, "I know, honey, it blinks that way whenever a Jayhawk gets into heaven." Tom gave a wink upwards at the scoreboard and knew his existential crisis in midlife was finally over.

(Note: There was no job opening at the Austin Statesman. But the rest of this post is all absolutely the truth, so help me god.)

Rock chalk!


Rock chalk!


Rock chalk!


Rock chalk!

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago

KU and Wilbur,

KU is right; that's what I meant. Thanks for the switch off, KU. Guess I'm going to have to man-up some more on clarity. :-)

kennethst 10 years, 2 months ago


Do we have anything to fear from some other decent teams in Big 12 like K-State,MU and Baylor?

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago


I haven't seen KSU, MU, or Baylor play, but based on what I have read, with a healthy Cole, no.

With Cole the way he has been the last four games, KSU is a risk for a split, if we have an off shooting night.

MU not. Let's put it this way: last years KU's team beat MU, when KU's young team figured out how to split the press the second time even with DeMarre Carroll; this year MU doesn't have Carroll, their replacements aren't as good and KU remembers how to split the press (and has more depth to do it with). KU's team this year is much stronger and better in every respect. 40 minutes of hell without a player like Carroll quickly turns into 40 minutes of mild annoyance. Oh, and did I say KU learned last year how to split the press, as per 100's advice well before the second game. KU wins both meetings.

Baylor not. They are living on Udoh's 9.8 rpg, and a team 43 rpg. KU's inside strength and depth will cut them to 33 and probably outrebound them by 4-5. Dunn is good, but he's their top trinitizer and only makes 36%. KU shoots 42% from trinity as a team! KU will use X and Brady to pull Dunn down to 32-34%. KU wins handily.

And remember, once Withey can play 10 productive minutes per game, KU will completely bury teams like these, and I suspect, Texas, too. In today's game, you gotta pot the trey better than the opponent, defend as well and outmuscle the opponent on both ends. KU and Texas defend about the same and muscle about the same. Dexter's a load, but with 15 fouls to give against him at the 5, plus ten from the 4, Dexter is going to wind up not knowing whether to stink, or sing soprano.

To beat KU once Withey arrives, you have to catch KU on a bad trey night, you have to be able to make 38-40 percent of your treys, you have to be able to play muscle ball with a lot of depth (because Self will default to grind it out mayhem on any bad shooting nights), and you have to have a PG that can keep Sherron from creating, a 3 that can keep Self from clearing out the side for Xavier, a post man who can hold Cole to ten and ten (and have a backup that can stop Withey for ten minutes), and a 4 that can stop Marcus and Kieff from going off in tandem for 20/10 between them.

jaybate 10 years, 2 months ago

No one in the country that I know of has the required pieces and percentages needed to do the above, even on a bad shooting night by KU...if Cole heals and Withey can go ten productive minutes. Cole's health and Withey's ability to perform solid backup are the missing pieces presently. TRob might be able to fill the bill, if he were to mature quickly, but even he cannot bring the kind of advantage in the post that Withey could.

Getting Cole healthy and Withey fitted in for ten productive minutes is basically the Manhattan Project being conducted in secret during "Get Better Week." Bernadette Gray-Little is FDR during development of the super weapon. Lew Perkins is General Leslie Groves. Bill Self is J. Robert Oppenheimer. Joe Dooley is Robert Serber. Danny Manning is Leo Szilard. Kurtis Townsend is Enrico Fermi. The critical mass has been refined. The trigger is understood. Lawrence, Kansas, is now the basketball equivalent of Los Alamos, New Mexico; Oak Ridge, Tennessee; Richland, Washington; and Chalk River, Ontario, Canada, all rolled into one. The new practice facility is like Fermi's facility under the football bleachers at the University of Chicago. Allen Field House on December 29th, 2009, against, Belmont, may be the basketball equivalent of the Trinity Site in New Mexico. Something the basketball egg heads have been cooking up in the practice facility is about to be tested. It's power and destructive force could be unprecedented in the muscle ball era. The basic formalization driving it is: Basketball Energy = Muscle * Quickness Squared * Trinitizing Cubed. The explosive power released may change everything but the way we think. After beholding what his diverse team of coaching scientists have unleashed on an unsuspecting basketball world, Self may step back and quote from the Bhagavad Oread Gita, "I am become death, destroyer of muscle ball worlds."


And if CJ can earn some PT by practicing great during "Get Better Week," and stay healthy, then KU will be fully ready to cut the heart out of John Wall with ten of the hardest fouls he has ever had to endure, and leave him D.O.A. should we meet Contucky.

I hate to sound like a broken record, but...

We are a very good team with a chance to win a ring with Cole healthy and without Withey.

With Withey contributing 10 productive minutes subbing for Cole, too, we are an absolute monster.

And if CJ becomes the ten minute man behind Sherron, we are without question the potentially greatest team of the muscle ball era.

"Quality depth wins championships in the muscle ball era."


(Those last two lines were for 100.)

justinryman 10 years, 2 months ago

Suprised that no one is freaking out that Calipari got a vote for #1in ith AP. At least the coaches(SID's) didn't vote for him and his Wildcat's.

As for other Big 12 Schools? Tech isn't all that bad, not great but not bad either. Oklahoma could be better, just not enough talent. Nebraska might have one of it's better teams in the past couple of years, but they are still Nebraska, watch out for the Diaz kid, tall and raw and Sadler is a heck of a coach. He will have them playing scrappy in Lincoln like he did last year if you remember that game. K-state is a good team not too deep but some talent in the top 5. Mizzu is ok, could be and should be better, but they are not for some reason. OK st, just not getting it done this year. A&M after the major injury(sorry the name escapes me) it kind of left thier season out to try. Baylor is playing very well and could be dangerous at home or on the right/wrong night, not a lot of depth though, kinda like Cal was.

Michael Leiker 10 years, 2 months ago

By Jan 16 we should have a much better idea of what this team is made of.

yates33333 10 years, 2 months ago

You're a funny man Jaybate. I guess you're male.

jayhawg61 10 years, 2 months ago

Look people I am a rabid KU Fan, but at the same time I am practical and a realist.

First of all how can anyone on this board or as a KU fan say KU is a legitimate #1 when they haven't even played a ranked team yet? Texas has beaten a couple top ten teams as well as Kentucky. So a realist who wouldn't let their bias get in the way of their better judgement would probably have the top 3 ranked #1 Texas, #2 Kentucky & #3 Kansas. Although I'm not even sure why KU would deserve a #3 ranking right now. Their ranking is not even based on their play this year as much as it was for last years. But past performance doesn't guarantee future returns.

There is something lacking in this team. The fire doesn't seem to be there. Especially on Cole Aldrichs part. Collins is lacking as well. Something tells me that Henry has messed the chemistry up on this team. They seem to be confused most of the time as to who is supposed to be the leader on this team.

Last year Collins was the clear leader on this team and Cole understood that KU would only go as far as he and Collins would take them.

This year they seem to have lost their Mojo.

And this Cupcake preseason schedule they have been playing. Is the same person who is scheduling the KU football teams game scheduling the Mens basketball games now as well?

Someone was comparing Texas stats with KU stats. How can you compare a team that is playing ranked teams stats against a team who is playing a bunch of "cupcake" teams? Texas's stats shouldn't be as good as KU's because they are playing tougher opponents. KU should be blowing out these cupcake teams and yet is struggling as of late with them.

All I'm saying is don't let your bias and and hype cloud your better judgement people. The play of this team doesn't merit it's ranking right now.

kennethst 10 years, 2 months ago


Thanks... Excellent analysis as always!

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