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Originally published December 14, 2009 at 12:06p.m., updated December 14, 2009 at 04:38p.m.

Kansas remains atop AP Top 25 with nearly all the first place votes

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Five Big 12 teams, including both from the state of Kansas, are in this week's AP Top 25, out Monday afternoon.

Kansas remains in first — where it's been since the seasons started, and is joined by Texas at No. 2, Texas Tech at No. 16, Kansas State at No. 17 and Texas A&M; at No. 23.

The top 25 teams in The Associated Press’ college basketball poll is below, with first-place votes in parentheses, records through Dec. 13, total points based on 25 points for a first-place vote through one point for a 25th-place vote and previous ranking.

See Journal-World sports editor's Tom Keegan's Associated Press ballot.

  1. Kansas (61) 9-0 1,620 1
  2. Texas (1) 8-0 1,512 2
  3. Kentucky (1) 10-0 1,486 4
  4. Purdue 9-0 1,426 5
  5. Syracuse (2) 10-0 1,388 7
  6. West Virginia 8-0 1,315 6
  7. Duke 7-1 1,137 8
  8. Villanova 9-1 1,107 3
  9. Tennessee 7-1 1,104 9
  10. North Carolina 8-2 1,039 11
  11. Georgetown 8-0 1,008 15
  12. Michigan St. 8-2 922 12
  13. Florida 8-1 864 10
  14. Connecticut 6-2 762 14
  15. Gonzaga 8-2 505 21
  16. Texas Tech 9-0 492 23
  17. Kansas St. 9-1 391 —
  18. Ohio St. 7-2 383 13
  19. New Mexico 10-0 364 —
  20. Mississippi 8-1 334 25
  21. Butler 7-3 257 22
  22. Georgia Tech 6-1 253 24
  23. Texas A&M; 8-2 221 16
  24. Washington 6-2 179 17
  25. Cincinnati 6-2 174 19

Others receiving votes: Memphis 129, Wisconsin 110, UNLV 96, Clemson 84, Temple 83, Northwestern 59, Illinois 44, Miami 40, St. John’s 30, Oklahoma St. 29, Charlotte 24, Dayton 24, Seton Hall 24, Florida St. 23, Missouri St. 20, BYU 14, Mississippi St. 9, Virginia Tech 7, Baylor 6, Minnesota 5, Cornell 3, N.C. State 3, Rhode Island 3, Tulsa 3, N. Iowa 2, Pittsburgh 2, W. Carolina 2, Wake Forest 2, Army 1, William & Mary 1.

Comments

Alan Mills 9 years, 8 months ago

The Michigan and California games looked so good a month ago. But, at least that Temple game (in Philly) is looking better and better all the time! Why isn't Missouri receiving any votes? I've seen them play, and they're better than a handful of teams ranked this week?!

adamjhwkfan 9 years, 8 months ago

Did you not see them lose to Oral Roberts?

jkanev 9 years, 8 months ago

Missouri lost to Oral Roberts, enough said.

jaybate 9 years, 8 months ago

jns news service (jns):

Dateline: Earth, Several North American Time Zones

Slug: Monday Nauseated by Other First Place Votes:

Anonymous jns stringers have assembled the following utterly unconfirmed (and quite possibly false) reports on who had the gall to vote for anyone other than KU.

_Texas Bonghorns Mis-Vote: No, stringers don't know of any brouhaha about UT players being burners, but believe it is such a great twist on Longhorns they could not resist. And you know Austin...it thinks its soooooooo progressive for a former slave state capital! :-) Anyway, rumor has it that the one mis-cast first place vote cast for the Bonghorns was cast by none other than Dubya himself, who is rumored now to be passing time in political/economic disgrace by writing under not one, but two pseudonyms: Kirk Bohls and Mark Rosner. If true, this could explain some of the writing of the two professional journalists noted. jns stringers report it is reputed by some that old Bush right hand man, Karl the Turd Blossom, now doing PR work in one of the Central Asian 'stans, had both Bohls and Rosner abducted and flown on an Air'Stan jetliner to Gitmo, so that Dubya could more fully enjoy keeping a low profile in retirement in the Big D. jns stringers report that Dubya likes KU and Bill Self, but just had to roll up his sleeves and "do hard work that was right for thelm 'Horns."

_UK-VirtualSAT Wildcats Mis-Vote: jns stringers in Lexington report that one of the Louisville Courier Urinal's sports writers with a vote on the AP poll, and a person who reputedly picks up pocket money by taking SATs for Wildcat hoopsters, cast one of the votes. It is also rumored that this writer keeps on file a story that will announce Coach John Calipari's departure for his next job, when the NCAA begins serious investigations of certain UK-VirtualSAT players for not having taken their own SATs. The lead is: "For the third time in his career, Coach John Calipari has departed a program under a cloud of inappropriate activity without having any responsibility whatsoever for the violations committed by over zealous alumni. Controversial Coach Calipari announced he will take over as Louisville Cardinal head coach, while former Cardinal head coach Rick Pitino takes some time off to deal with issues in his private life." Josh Pastner of Memphis will replace Calipari at UK, which had to forfeit a 39-1 record that included one loss to Kansas University in the 2009/2010 National Championship game, the second such loss for Calipari to Bill Self and KU in three years."

jaybate 9 years, 8 months ago

jns: Monday Nauseated by Other First Place Votes continued...

_SyrExcuse: jns stringers report that an ink stained wretch in Syracuse, NY, working for an unnamed newspaper, reputedly lets Syracuse Head Coach and utterly zone-dependent Jim Boeheim cast all his votes for him. Coach Boeheim reputedly flatly denies casting any votes for anyone, saying, "I am too busy not coaching to even think about casting polling ballots."

_jns stringers in the Big Apple also report a rumor that the group of sports writers that cast these ballots for teams other than KU are now secretly calling themselves the "Inglorious Basterds" of contemporary sports writing.

_It is vital for all who read this to remember that the jns takes absolutely no responsibility for the information above and is almost certain that it violates all codes of professional journalistic conduct. jns management publishes it only because it seems the only fitting response to miscast first place votes cast by so-called professional sports writers.

End Note Applying to the above posts: Of course the above is entirely fiction and meant solely for the amusement of readers. Not one shred of it is true and not one shred of it is intended to be taken, or mistaken, as anything but an attempt at satirizing the votes mis-cast by sports writers unknown to yours truly.

BCRavenJHawkfan 9 years, 8 months ago

So where is that Kentucky moron to defend their ONE first place vote? And on top of that it must have been Calipari himself casting that vote. We know Self never votes his own team and most likely voted Texas. Barnes is much the same way and probably voted Kansas.

LAJayhawk 9 years, 8 months ago

mizzou also lost to the Richmond Spiders. At home.

lawrence_is_my_middle_name 9 years, 8 months ago

Wow, this year it seems that Big 12 Basketball is leaps and bounds ahead of Big 12 Football. We have some work to do if we want to stay on top!

LAJayhawk 9 years, 8 months ago

BCRaven,

This is the AP, not the coaches poll.

Kentucky did get the only other 1 first place vote in the ESPN/USA Today poll as well.

r1ckjayhawk 9 years, 8 months ago

I didn't realize that Calipari got a vote... That would be the only explanation as to why Kentucky got a first place vote. Somebody is drinking the kool-aid!!!

ROCK CHALK!!!

KU 9 years, 8 months ago

On a side note: anybody see the Xavier-Cincinnati game this weekend? First of all, great 2 OT game. It was of particular interest watching Lance Stephenson, the former KU recruit. The kid is a great player. Maybe not quite up to John Wall's ability, but pretty doggone good. Excellent defender. Great desire to stop his man--what I would really like to see out of X.

But, I started rooting against Stephenson because of his ugly court demeanor. Constantly jawing with his opponent and shoving it in their face and laughing at them when he made good plays. For those of you who don't like TT's posing, it's nothing compared to Stephenson's act. That may fit in the League, but it certainly wouldn't fly with Coach Self. KU and Stephenson may be fortunate that they parted ways.

ginger2015 9 years, 8 months ago

Mizzou lost to Richmond at the South Padre Island Invitational.

nwhawk 9 years, 8 months ago

Based on what they've accomplished thus far, Kentucky has a more legitimate claim to #1 than KU. So does Syracuse. Not a fan of either, but let's be realistic. Our strength of schedule is in the toilet.

BCRavenJHawkfan 9 years, 8 months ago

Perhaps we don't have the best scedule strength wise so far. The only thing that matters at this point is winning the game at hand.

nwhawk 9 years, 8 months ago

Yeah, but if you and I are both undefeated, and you've beaten better teams than I have, who deserves the higher ranking?

KU 9 years, 8 months ago

I'm certainly not concerned about who's rated #1. But I AM concerned that we haven't been tested. In March, the teams that are tested by adversity are better off. Texas is playing UNC in the new Texas Stadium this week, I believe. Other than Texas, OU, aTm, and K-State the only challenge--in terms of teams with enough talent to beat you--will be the rivalry games with MU.

Kye Clark 9 years, 8 months ago

The polls are pretty much for fan fodder only, especially this early in the season. It provides and outlet for disgruntled Syracuse fans to scream (as they so often do, although usually it comes on selection Sunday) about the injustices they suffer. Or the Kentucky fans, mired in mediocrity for years and anxious to puff out their chests and get their respect before the NCAA inevitably strips away any mark of success due to Calisleazy's shady tactics. Seriously, you wouldn't think that a storied program such as Kentucky would have such an inferiority complex after a month's worth of games. You'd like to think they, as much as any other school, know that polls in December are meaningless and that it's who's left standing after the March Madness that is important. It's not the BCS so it's not like it determines whether we'll play in the national title game. If it were computer based Kansas wouldn't be at the top due to strength of schedule (which is not necessarily all of Kansas's fault. Ahem, UCLA & Michigan). However, the BCS does not put out it's first rankings until around the mid-point of the season, so maybe all the whiners complaining about our schedule & Kentucky & Syracuse not being ranked above the 'hawks should take it easy and simply enjoy your teams short-lived success. Kansas was preseason ranked #1 because almost everyone felt we have the best team. Until they do something to disprove that, anything anyone else does doesn't really matter.

Scott Smetana 9 years, 8 months ago

Just because Kentucky has beaten better teams does not make them better than us. That said, who cares? We have Bill Self and they have Calisleezy.

Methsewery... nice! I haven't heard that one before.

Why is Washington ranked? I'd love to see no Pac-10 teams ranked.

LAJayhawk 9 years, 8 months ago

ginger,

Thanks for the correction. Losing to Richmond in South Padre is certainly a huge difference... :-)

Eric J. Baker 9 years, 8 months ago

Kentucky needs a good non-conference strength of schedule because the SEC, although better this year, certainly isn't anything to get excited about. Besides Tennessee and maybe Florida, Kentucky won't be tested as much. KU may have a weaker nonconference schedule (although not through lack of trying- who expects to schedule against UCLA, Michigan, and Cal and have them all turn out like they did?), but we still play at Tennessee and at Temple. And the Big 12 is going to be a very, very tough conference to get through when even teams that were expected to be near the bottom, like Texas Tech, are showing their talent. That'll give us a lot of experience under our belt right around March, when it matters most, even if we don't have that #1 ranking and a spotless win-loss record.

Dan Harris 9 years, 8 months ago

The Temple game is looking pretty tough right now.

Ron Franklin 9 years, 8 months ago

NWHAWK "Yeah, but if you and I are both undefeated, and you've beaten better teams than I have, who deserves the higher ranking?"

  1. The team that is not coached by sleezball.
  2. The team that is not lead by a thief
  3. The team that returns 2 players that lead them to the Sweet 16, plus a great supporting cast.
  4. The team that consists of at least 2 all americans and 2 top 20 draft picks.
  5. The team that made it to that started out # 1 and has not been proven wrong.
  6. The team that boasts the longest home win streak (active)
  7. The team that has the most class.
  8. The team which educated sports analysts deem worthy of # 1 and not a weak opinion supported by one criteria...strength of schedule.
  9. The team that goes 38-2 and wins the 2009 National Championship.

Rock Chalk

nwhawk 9 years, 8 months ago

icthawkfan316: for the record, I'm not a "whiner" "complaining about our schedule & Kentucky & Syracuse not being ranked above the 'hawks." My comments were addressed at those who seem bewildered that Kentucky would receive some #1 votes. Thanks for your diatribe though.

Steve Brown 9 years, 8 months ago

BlownJay: Temple, Tenn, Texas which one you got us beating, just curious.

Steve Brown 9 years, 8 months ago

UNC v. Texas

who do we want to win?

isn't it better for us, if Big 12 continues to strengthen our RPI with quality wins, so that our conf. gets more teams ($$) in the dance.

conversly, if Texas ends up with our record, 1-2 losses all year, we don't want their RPI to feed them to Indy via Saint Louis and we get bumped to Alaska.

I trust someone here will illuminate me, who do we want to win, former coach or Big 12 team, how does the result help us is my only goal.

Kye Clark 9 years, 8 months ago

nwhawk - if you read my post it is directed at Kentucky fans & Syracuse fans, which you say you are a fan of neither. And I point out that the whiners enjoy their teams' short-lived success. Again, since neither Kentucky or Syracuse are your teams, it was not directed at you. Sorry if you took it as a jab at you, but I've been hearing the arguements you made both on here and on other sports sites, and I stand by my points. Pre-season #1, still undefeated, still the best team in college basketball.

bballdiehard 9 years, 8 months ago

Adding to BlownJay's list:

10. The team that has had only one close game as opposed to four.

11. The team that still wins big when its stars aren't playing their best.

12. The team that hasn't let a single team make a big run on them in a game.

Based on the games I've watched so far (all of KU's and a handful of Kensucky's), I think Kensucky is overranked at the moment, deserving to be down closer to UNC and UConn... Somewhere in the 10-15 range. When Wall gets into foul trouble, their game disappears and teams come back on them. If Wall were to get injured at some point in the season, they'll drop in the rankings... fast and hard as other teams exploit their weaknesses.

bballdiehard 9 years, 8 months ago

And lighthawk, I for one will definitely be rooting for Texas. I don't think Texas will get the joy of playing in St. Louis after we beat them during the regular season, and again in the conference tournament.

Ron Franklin 9 years, 8 months ago

nwhawk- I understand your original post was directed at those who think it's preposterous that a team other than KU should receive a # 1 vote. However, you then directly posted the question, to which I responded with your so-called diatribe. I'm just a fan, not an expert. My statements a my pure, humble, opinions.

lighthawk-I think our toughest games are KSU (either one) , @ Tennessee, @ Texas. Call me crazy for the KSU pick if you'd like. I think we'll lose one of those three. I don't think we'll make it through the Big 12 Tourney either.....

BCRavenJHawkfan 9 years, 8 months ago

I can't believe I am about to post this. The powder puff schedule didn't downgrade Memphis the year before last. They even went into the four # 1 seeds higher than we were.

Fuuuudge! Now I have to go wash my mouth out with soap.

Martin Rosenblum 9 years, 8 months ago

Weekly rankings are such poli-babble!

Who remembers our ranking in the same week last year, the prior year, etc?

Rankings only serve to inflate egos, not to build up "brownie points" toward any seedings, etc in post-season play. As the season rolls along, the only benefit that I can consider is how many weeks a given team spent at the number one spot. RPI is more of a quasi-science and should be held in more esteem than anything else. In the end, the "quality" wins and "strengths of schedule" factors are a more adult way of chest-thumping.

Play like there is no tomorrow in every game!

Stats live forever, weekly rankings do not a championship make!

Martin Rosenblum 9 years, 8 months ago

Totally agree ralster!

The ones who truly respect us in those situations are usually the coaches of teams who played us and were beaten by a well coached, fundamentally solid KU team.

The ones who get hung up on our slipping in the rankings because some body of voters decide they liked what they saw from another team in one week's worth of games need to check their self esteem and take off the blinders,

I would love for us to start the season at the top of the rankings and remain there all season. But, how likely would it be that all other Div. 1 teams be so inferior and unlucky as to not be able to challenge the top spot at least once after pulling off a shocking upset on their schedule if they were in the top 5-10 spots behind us.

Tony Bandle 9 years, 8 months ago

Ralster...can I ask your avatar for a date??

I would rather see KU go 30-9 and the NC than 39-1 and the NC if the one loss was to Missouri!!

Five in the top 25 with 3 more getting votes.....yep, I'd say the Big Twelve will be a decent test to prepare for "The Dance."

Go Coach Gill....a good football team does enhance the look of a university for future student athletes. That's why it's so amazing that Kansas has been so dominant in BBall with, in general, a mediocre to awful history of football!!

Will Lawrence, Kansas become GILL...igans Island? I just had to be the first idiot to post it. Mea Culpa!!

Steve Brown 9 years, 8 months ago

A&M you go Turgeon, cool beans. Big 12 let's get 5 in top 20.

Michigan Game: Mr. Gill bring in all the recruits intro yourself to us at halftime and hear your 1st rock chalk chant, you certainly didn't hear any of it as a player. Just have all the FB players as well as those in the house 'considering' becoming KU FB players to stand and get their justly deserved ovation.

Ralster, after Ms. Avatar finishes dating Oakville, even though I"m as old as H. Truman can I get her apt. in Paris on the left bank and fund her future shcoooling , just sayin.

out.

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