Tuesday, August 11, 2009

KU’s Self eager to begin 2009-2010 campaign

KU men's head coach Bill Self addresses a packed Allen Fieldhouse on Friday, Oct. 17, 2008 during Late Night in the Phog.

KU men's head coach Bill Self addresses a packed Allen Fieldhouse on Friday, Oct. 17, 2008 during Late Night in the Phog.


Bill Self, who spent most of the month of July on the recruiting trail, is refreshed and ready for the 2009-10 school year to begin.

“We’ve not hit it too hard since recruiting’s been over. We’ve had a chance to do a couple fun things,” Self, Kansas University’s seventh-year basketball coach, said Monday. “But summer’s officially over now. It’s time to get busy.”

Self didn’t say where he and his family vacationed in early August and can’t say much about his July recruiting trips to Las Vegas, Orlando, Fla., and other sites of AAU tournaments.

Remember, he’s not allowed to discuss specific prospects in accordance with NCAA rules.

“I don’t know how we’re doing. We’ve got one commitment. We could get as many as three more. We want a tall guard, a big and then a point would be our immediate needs,” Self said.

KU in May of 2008 received an oral commitment from Royce Woolridge, a 6-foot-3 senior from Phoenix’s Sunnyslope High. The Jayhawks will have between two to four scholarships to award to players in the Class of 2010.

KU loses seniors Sherron Collins and Mario Little, with Cole Aldrich expected to leave for the NBA after his junior year and Xavier Henry to do the same after one season.

All the Jayhawks — including Xavier and C.J. Henry, who did not attend summer school — likely will be on campus Monday as the Jayhawks begin arriving for the start of first-semester classes on Aug. 20.

“They (Henrys) came up last week to get C.J. situated in his apartment,” Self said.

C.J. will live off campus, Xavier in Jayhawker Towers.

“I encouraged him to live off campus. He’s 23 years old and been living on his own for years. At 23 years old, I don’t have an issue with that at all,” Self said of C.J., who played minor-league baseball for the Yankees for three seasons.

Self said the Henrys have been working out hard on their own in Oklahoma City. He said 6-6 Xavier weighs “in the vicinity of 220 pounds” and 6-3 C.J. around 208.

“They have had their own trainer working with them in the gym,” Self said. “They’ve been doing two-a-days most days and should report in very good condition based on what I’ve been told. They work on conditioning twice a day and get in the gym and work on their game together.”

Self said the broken bone in C.J.’s foot has healed.

“He’s been released to be basically full speed the last month or so. He hasn’t done too much. We’ve encouraged him to go slow,” Self said. “He’s done work in the pool and treadmill as well as other things.”

As Self reported a couple of weeks ago, the previously injured Jayhawks (Elijah Johnson, knee; Brady Morningstar, foot; Mario Little, lower leg; Jeff Withey, thumb) all have been cleared for workouts.

“I think everybody will report back and be in good physical condition from an injury standpoint,” Self said. “I don’t think we have any issues. We had a summer in which we were pretty beat up.”

He said Morningstar, who spent a month working out with former KU assistant coach Bob Hill, trainer Frank Matrisciano and college and NBA players in San Francisco, “will probably be the best conditioned guy on the team as well as Tyrel (Reed).”

As far as KU’s facilities ... the Jayhawks should be able to start working out in the new indoor practice facility on Aug. 24. The coaches also should move into their renovated offices in about two weeks.

“It’ll be nice when we get moved into the offices and obviously the facility,” Self said. “The first couple months of the school year will be makeshift (with fieldhouse renovations to be complete by the Oct. 16 Late Night in the Phog).

“It’ll be worth it,” he added.

KU, two others on Jackson’s list

Joe Jackson, a 5-foot-11, 150-pound point guard from White Station High in Memphis, has narrowed his list of schools to Kansas University, Memphis and Tennessee, according to He is’s No. 18-rated player nationally.

Meanwhile, future Kansas University basketball guard Royce Woolridge will make his official visit to KU for Late Night in the Phog, Rivals reports. KU has two other confirmed visitors: Josiah Turner, a 6-3 junior shooting guard from Sacramento (Calif.) High School, and J.P. Tokoto, a 6-5 freshman small forward from Menomonee Falls (Wis) High.

Thomas has surgery

Las Vegas — Former Kansas University basketball forward Quintrell Thomas, who has transferred to UNLV, had surgery on July 31 to repair a torn labrum in his left shoulder, the Las Vegas Sun reported.

The 6-foot-8 New Jersey native will be out the next six months. He cannot play in games this season in accordance with NCAA transfer rules.

Thomas averaged 1.5 points and 2 rebounds per contest in his freshman season at KU. He will have three years of eligibility remaining starting with the 2010-11 season.


Billy Derringer 10 years, 5 months ago

cant wait to get the party started,and Joe Jackson seems awful small to me. i kinda like the bigger combo gaurds, they seem harder to defend against so unless this guy is going to be one the scout team or something not sure i like this recruit

waywardJay 10 years, 5 months ago

derringer, he may be quicker than quick... sually tiny means fast, and usually a shooter also..... 150 is my size, so i hope he gets up there near 180... but he's stillvery young ....

MemphisMachine 10 years, 5 months ago

You're right derringer29 Joe Jackson is small, and if you've never seen footage of his play one might instantly reject. Trust me the guy is incredible, they don't call him "The Real Thing", for nothing. He'll be featured in the Boost Mobile game @ Rucker. Either 3 of these teams would be lucky to have him commit. P.S. happy Kentucky out of the running, hehe!

Rick Arnoldy 10 years, 5 months ago

Anyone get the feeling C.J. is a one and done as well? He'll be 24 come draft day next year and the NBA drafts on potential. If he's as good as his dad says, there's not a lot of upside to staying in the college game at that age.

ku_tailg8 10 years, 5 months ago

I think CJ only has this year left for eligibility. He also isn't taking up a scholarship. I believe the Yankees are paying him to go to school here.

Taylor Mermis 10 years, 5 months ago

derringer, do you like Sherron Collins? He is pretty hard to defend against. 5'11" is plenty tall enough for college.

Andy Hess 10 years, 5 months ago

tailg8 - CJ is classified as a sophomore, so he has 3 years of eligibility left.

derringer - Joe Jackson is the real deal. here's some youtube video of him so you can see for yourself:

Jonathan Allison 10 years, 5 months ago

CJ has three years of eligibility, but he has no intention of being at KU for three years. He will probably declare for the draft, and test the waters. If he thinks he'll get drafted, he'll probably stay in. If he doesn't know whether or not he'll get drafted he may decide that he'd rather play professionally in Europe than stay in college. Most of us probably have no clue how good he'll be this year, and we may not get much of a chance to see how good he is depending on what kind of playing time he can get. If he ends up not liking school then I doubt that he'd stick around more than one year.

Joe Baker 10 years, 5 months ago

Who wouldn't be eager to start with a stacked team like KU. These guys are focused and it will be sweet to watch all the hard work pay dvidends. I couldn't be more proud of the work ethic.

Oct 16th can't come too soon!! Late Night should be pretty special this year.


Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 5 months ago

Remember Cookie Miller from Nebraska last year?

Now, imagine somebody about his size who plays like Xavier Henry, that's Joe Jackson!

Rick Arnoldy 10 years, 5 months ago

Hopefully, he's not the punk that Cookie was.

justanotherfan 10 years, 5 months ago

Only one thing needs to be said about Joe Jackson - People flat out can't stay in front of the kid. He's that quick.

I doubt CJ jumps after only one year. Remember, he hasn't played organized basketball in about five years. It could take him some time to get back to his old level. Besides that, unless CJ is electric from the start, he's only 6-3. The NBA would be hesitant to take a smaller guard unless he was absolutely dynamic. Not saying CJ won't be a very good player, but that unless he's all-conference level, he's not going to be in the NBA discussion.

I still think we free up 4 scholarships with the departure of Collins, Little, Aldrich and X. If we get X for more than a year, I will be surprised. Also, Tyshawn is a possible early exit, depending on how he shows this year. If he shows a consistent jumper, he could be a late first rounder.

But that's for next year. We have a very intriguing team to watch this season.

I'm eager to see Sherron pushing the ball with X and Tyshawn filling the lanes and Cole trailing. I'm eager to see Thomas Robinson rip down and offensive board in traffic and go back up strong. I'm eager to see Cole and Jeff work the high-low game. Eager to see X in the crimson and blue. And I'm eager for March (and hopefully a certain Monday in April).

KU1992 10 years, 5 months ago

word is that Jackson is 99% going to memphis.

TxJyHwk 10 years, 5 months ago

CJ only has one year left. It has something do with the 5 year rule the NCAA has - even though he is a "sophomore".

JayCeph 10 years, 5 months ago

I think Joe Jackson is 'Steppin Out.'

K_Easthouse 10 years, 5 months ago

anthonyzal (anonymous) says...

We need a guy like Cookie Miller. His attitude and love for the game are unparalleled. He gets a bad rap for his skin color and dreads. Racists. Yes, Cookie Miller is exactly the kind of kid we want at Kansas.

/end sarcasm

It's not racism to call a spade a spade, sorry to say.

JayCeph 10 years, 5 months ago

anthonyzal, are you serious? Skin color? Dreads? How about his belligerent attitude on the floor and his flagrant fouls with nothing to gain in a game that is already lost?

Perhaps, it is you who is racist. They say, "When all you have is a hammer, everything begins to look like a nail." Try picking up some new tools...

Waylon Cook 10 years, 5 months ago

lmao we caused Cookie to leave-his last trip to AFH wasn't a good one!

Self4Prez 10 years, 5 months ago

anthonyzal - WRONG. Miller got a bad rap because of his poor attitude. There is no room to post asinine, unfounded comments like that.

Eliott Reeder 10 years, 5 months ago

I believe anthonyzal was joking. Not sure what K_Easthouse is saying either...

justanotherfan 10 years, 5 months ago


The 5 year rule only kicks in once a player begins their eligibility. In CJ's case, that wasn't until last year at Memphis, so he still has his remaining eligibility. The fact that he played pro baseball first is irrelevant to his basketball eligibility. I would look up the actual rule, but the NCAA rulebook is insane, but the gist of it is that an athlete has up to 10 consecutive semesters to use up their four years of eligibility, unless they have a hardship (medical or otherwise).

So if a kid graduates high school, then plays at a school for two years, then drops out for a year, then redshirts, they would only have one year of eligibility left because their clock started running during their first two years of play. On the other hand, if a kid graduated high school and didn't go to school for two (or three or four or however many)years, then went to juco for two years, then enrolled at a four year school, they would still have two years of eligibility (plus a redshirt year) because their clock didn't start until they went to juco.

If anyone has a different understanding of the rule, feel free to correct me.

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 5 months ago

MAN, I'm sorry I brought up the Cookie Miller/Joe Jackson comparison!

My only point was his size and speed.

KU1992- I tend to agree with you. I've heard Memphis is head and shoulders at the top of his list. I think he's just taunting Memphis with his short list of KU and Tennessee.

route66 10 years, 5 months ago

I feel sorry for you anthonyzal....and not for your post being removed. Break down those walls you live in....

justanotherfan 10 years, 5 months ago

Also, here's a highlight package for Terrance Jones (kid from Aaron Miles and Michael Lee's HS) that has us on his list.

Reminds me alot of Earl Clark (formerly of Louisville, now in the NBA). He's a big guy (6-9) with ball handling ability and an outside shot. He probably draws a lot of comparisons to Lamar Odom as well (size, perimeter game, left handed, etc.)

waywardJay 10 years, 5 months ago

Rivals has him on even footing still..... looks like there is still potential to grow a little bit.... 6'1 is not out of the question by the time he gets on campus somewhere.... Rivals also has him at 160, wich i not a big difference but you never know about that too... it's easier to get to 180-190 oin 6'1 frame than say a 5'11 frame

Dirk Medema 10 years, 5 months ago

Could it be another 6-player NBA draft? Sherron Cole Mario X CJ Tyshawn

Another big run to the NC could do it.

waywardJay 10 years, 5 months ago

Mario ???? he'd have to have darnell improvement ( not saying it isn't possible... )

KUbsee69 10 years, 5 months ago

We were in Lawrence Saturday and on several occasions noticed a very long stretch limo touring the campus and downtown. Like most limos, the windows were completely blacked out so we couldn't see the occupants. They seemed to be crossing Mass on each cross street, thoroughly touring the downtown area and were obviously touring the campus. We saw them several times over a few hours.

On one of the several occasions that we saw the limo driving down Mass, I joked to my wife that "maybe the Henry brothers have arrived". Now, from this article, I see that they were in town last week.

Maybe, just maybe???

suttonku 10 years, 5 months ago

The rumors that Jackson is pretty much Memphis bound is true...KU is not completely out of it but it's tough to recruit a kid out of Memphis...He wants to play in front of family and in an NBA venue...but KU is recruiting a number of good guards at this point and dont forget about Royce Woolridge...We are also going to get a visit from deron lamb...Josh Selby will probably end up at UCONN...we will have Beal and Josiah Turner at Late Night I KU will not be hurting at the Guard position...Im more concerned about us getting bigs at this point...we are definitely in the mix tog et Terrance Jones as well.

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 5 months ago

Please don't tell me that anybody with the last name Henry cruised the campus and downtown area in a stretch limo.

I thought I was through being unimpressed with the prima-donna perception surrounding these student-athletes. Just let them come to town with the family SUV or a UHaul like most new students arrive.

Would somebody please tell me that there were execs from CBS or ESPN or ANY other corporate entity checking out our quaint little town of Lawrence in that limo. I'll accept any reasonable explanation that can be conjured and maybe even confirmed. Just don't let it have been the Henrys!

Jeremy LeMaster 10 years, 5 months ago

I thought that there was anohter stipulation on the eligibility rule that your eligibility automatically starts at a certain age (21?). That is the reason why he is already a sophmore and does not have a redshirt left.

I could be wrong but I thought that was in a story on this website earlier in the summer just after CJ and X had made it official.

Anybody else remember this or am I losin it?

waywardJay 10 years, 5 months ago

You think they would be that insipid to cruise the town in a limo after all the drama.....

Can't be....

100 10 years, 5 months ago

It was ESPN limos, mad about not setting up Gameday this year & searching for a way to film the campus before the big Monday games in an attempt to make them feel a bit more like gameday.

As for the rule, as soon as a student turns 21, he has 4 years to complete his elgibility.

So if he was considered a 22 year old sophmore last year (playing wise), he'd have 2 years left to play as I understand it. I hope I'm wrong and he has three years left so he can bask in a year (or three) of National Championships before going pro (with Royce, possibly Harrison & Terrence Jones coming it could be more of the same for those who like rings & 100,000 people parades on ESPN)

suttonku 10 years, 5 months ago


Yes he will be a sophomore but it doesn't really matter because at the most he will only be at KU two seasons so him being a sophomore is irrelevant especially since the NCAA is not making him sit out a year.

100 10 years, 5 months ago


The NCAA has ruled that CJ is elgible to play immediately due to his previous coach changing jobs, combined with the fact that CJ was never recruited by him, and CJ never played last year due to injury.

He's elgible now -- Coach Self confirmed it a couple months ago.

suttonku 10 years, 5 months ago

yes and thats what I was getting at I just didnt feel like typing it out because it doesnt matter now that it is cleared up.

mjlindsm 10 years, 5 months ago

Oy. Someone mentions there's a limo in Lawrence the same weekend the Henrys are in town and suddenly more than one on here go back to the prima donna stuff and acting as though there actually could be any evidence that they were in the limo (and who cares in the slight chance they were?!) Now I understand how so many people apparantly can believe that a public health insurance option would eliminate medicare, kill senior citizens, and equate to the government taking over your life. What's the matter with people?! Stop believe everything you read/hear when you don't have all the facts!

jaybate 10 years, 5 months ago

} Re: Joe Jackson--5'11" and 150 is pretty flimsy, even for 20 years ago. In today's game, no one may be able to stay in front of him in high school, but in D1 they are going to mug him on defense and take him inside on offense. Tiny Archibald proved you could play all the way to the L in this mold, but after Tiny very few followed. There have been short wide bodies, like Calvin Murphy and Sherron occassionally but wiry runts have had a tough go of it lately, after a brief flurry of Spud Webbs. Still, great athletes often find a way to make their bodies do more than their measurements. I'm thinking here of Allen Iverson and John Stockton and Steve Nash. But they were all significantly bigger than JoeJack.

jaybate 10 years, 5 months ago

} Re: Morningstar--Frank Matrisciano? This guy is brutal! Enter human. Exit broken, or superman! Apparently Brady exited super man. Noone mentions it if they quit. Have you ever met a Navy Seal? They often look more like utterly neutrally balanced choir boys than killers and they often speak softly. What makes a Seal has nothing to do with conventional ferocity. Ferocious guys wash out of Seal training all the time. Seals have the ability to perform expertly under the worst of conditions, after utter fatigue sets in, and when everyone else has given up. They come in all shapes and sizes, to be sure, but many of them look and act just exactly like Brady Morningstar. Their eyes are different than other persons' eyes. They are not lifeless. But they are cool and unblinking like a sharks. There is no rage in them, just infinite will. If this trainer that Brady went to is the same guy that Blake Griffin went to, Brady Morningstar has just become an order of magnitude harder to keep off the floor. Brady can now sleep walk his way through boot camp. And Bob Hill will have taught Brady every trick in the book on playing to boot. Brady, after Matrisciano, is going to come into camp with his confidence the size of an aircraft carrier. He is going to be a sleepy eyed, relentless assassin on defense (as in he will NEVER tire), and he will be fearless going to the rim, instead of tentative. No more Mr. Nice Glue Guy. If Brady could defend the way he did last year, without Matriscianoization, he is going to be the defensive equivalent of a raptor after Matrisciano. Morningstar has now been through a pain barrier Xavier has never even dreamed about. Xavier, no matter how much talent he has, is not going to have the want-to and cold-hearted relentlessness on defense that Brady will bring any time and for as long as Self wants it. And Self loves defense to the point of a fetish. Want impact offense? Xavier. Want relentless defense and a three and the inner steel of a Navy Seal? Brady. The sparks will really fly in practice when Brady and Little defend X; that will tell the tale. If Xavier can stand up to those two, the opponents on KU's scedules are going to seem like light-weights to X. Self will probably start Tyshawn and Xavier, to get out of gate on the scoreboard fast, but Self is constantly going to be going to the bench for Brady to turn up the defensive heat and cut the TOs. After Matrisciano-ization, who do you think will tire first? Xavier, or Brady?

jaybate 10 years, 5 months ago


Blake Griffin was the first Navy Seal in the post last year that I have ever seen. It was largely because of what he survived under Matrisciano. I still think Brady is going to see at least 25 minutes a game. Its just going to come from two positions this year, instead of from one. It is going to come when Xavier, or Tyshawn are not able to stay in their squats like men. It is going to come, when things are going against the team, and will of steel counts for more than finesse moves. Sherron Collins was born with a will of steel. Now Morningstar has a will of steel. Tyshawn and Xavier have talent. Tyshawn proved he can be a leader among under nineteen year olds. Xavier has proven he can whip high school players. Xavier had a personal trainer. But do Tyshawn and Xavier have wills of steel?

Fatigue makes cowards of us all.

mjlindsm 10 years, 5 months ago

I think TJ Ford was the same size at that age. Small. Skinny. Studly.

Matt Elliott 10 years, 5 months ago

I saw Joe Jackson play in Springfield last winter one game before John Wall and I was way more impressed with Jackson's athleticism and demeanor than that of Walls. I would take Jackson regardless of size. He had mad hops as well. Lets hope Memphis changes coaches again after next season and it forces him to Lawrence!!

suttonku 10 years, 5 months ago

Dont dount HCBS he is as good a recruiter as I said earlier KU is not out of the Jackson sweepstakes but they are not leading, Memphis is.

Martin Rosenblum 10 years, 5 months ago

Thanks 100.

Plausible or not, at least you've replaced my original image of the Henry limo.

And now, I sleep.

Dan Cook 10 years, 5 months ago

I've seen Joe Jackson play. He's the real deal. The TJ Ford comparison is a good one in terms of ball handling, passing and quicks. TJ was a little stronger his SR year of high school than Joe, but Joe is a better outside shooter than TJ ever was. Bill Self would love to have him. We would love to have him. But I don't believe we lead today.

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