Originally published November 28, 2008 at 05:43p.m., updated November 28, 2008 at 11:18p.m.

Final: KU defeats Coppin State, 85-53

Kansas guard Brady Morningstar is fouled on the shot in the second half against Coppin State Friday, Nov. 28, 2008 at Allen Fieldhouse. Morningstar finished with a career-high 21 points and connected on six of eight three-point attempts.

Kansas guard Brady Morningstar is fouled on the shot in the second half against Coppin State Friday, Nov. 28, 2008 at Allen Fieldhouse. Morningstar finished with a career-high 21 points and connected on six of eight three-point attempts.


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Spodcasters Postgame: Coppin State

The Jesses (Newell, Temple) hand out grades in the school edition of the Spodcasters Postgame. The two grade KU's offense and defense, name their most and least valuable players and also talk about what they liked and didn't like from the Jayhawks' 85-53 victory over Coppin State.

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KU vs. Coppin State

  • Friday, November 28, 2008, 7 p.m.
  • Allen Fieldhouse, 1651 Naismith Drive, Lawrence
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FINAL: KU defeats Coppin State, 85-53

Brady Morningstar scored a career-high 21 points on 7-for-9 shooting, leading the Kansas Jayhawks to an 85-53 victory over Coppin State on Friday night at Allen Fieldhouse.

Morningstar, who hit his first four three-point attempts, set a new career-best for points just 8 minutes into the game. He finished 6-for-8 from beyond the arc and also grabbed a career-high seven rebounds in 31 minutes.

Coming into the game, Morningstar was just 1-for-5 from three-point range.

KU took control early with stifling first-half defense. CSU (1-2) made just six of 27 shots (22 percent) in the opening 20 minutes.

Cole Aldrich led all scorers, posting a career-high 23 points on 8-for-11 shooting. He also grabbed 11 rebounds in 28 minutes.

Sherron Collins added 11 points and a career-best eight assists.

Tyshawn Taylor added 10 points, six assists and five rebounds. The freshman left the game with a left ankle sprain in the second half, but in the postgame press conference, he said he would be fine to play in the Jayhawks’ next contest.

KU made eight of 16 three-pointers (50 percent) and also out-rebounded Coppin State, 46-21.

Tywain McKee, the preseason MEAC player of the year, led CSU with 17 points on 7-for-17 shooting. He was held to three points on 1-for-9 shooting in the first half.

The Jayhawks (4-1) will play Kent State at 8 p.m. Monday night at Allen Fieldhouse.

FINAL: KU defeats Coppin State, 85-53

Morningstar hits another three from the corner — why not? — for his 21st point. He gets a standing ovation behind the bench when checking out for the final time. His final line: 21 points, seven rebounds, 7-for-9 shooting, 6-for-8 accuracy from three-point range. He also had two assists and two steals in 31 minutes. It’s easily his best game as a Jayhawk.

Brennan Bechard hits a free throw, and Chase Buford gets a two after grabbing an offensive rebound. They both score their first points of the regular season in the Jayhawk victory.

KU 75/CSU 49 — 3:43 left in game

A nice assist inside for Collins, who slices through the lane before finding Releford under the basket.

Collins looks more like himself with the shot clock running down, shaking to the side before swishing an 18-footer.

Aldrich catches a tough pass from Collins in traffic, then slams it home with a whistle. He drains the free throw.

Aldrich picks up a steal at mid-court, then dishes to Releford, who glides to the basket for two. That puts some life into what has been a stale second-half crowd.

KU 65/CSU 45 — 7:19 left in game

A little shake-and-bake from Collins, who weaves by his defender before putting in a left-handed layup in the lane. A free throw completes the three-point play.

Scary moment for KU at the 9-minute mark, as Taylor went down in a heap after a made three by McKee. It looks to be a left ankle/foot injury, though Taylor seems to be putting more pressure on it as he walks off the court.

A nice bounce pass inside from Collins gets Aldrich a good look, and he banks it in from 6 feet.

On the break, Releford gets the ball against two defenders and hangs in the air long enough to draw a foul.

KU 59/CSU 42 — 10:02 left in game

Kucinskas shoots in a three, but Aldich gets a stuff on the other end.

Aldrich throws away a high-low pass intended for Markieff Morris, and quickly Marcus Morris comes into the game for Aldrich.

Jordan Lee gets a layup inside, and Self calls timeout. The lead is down to 59-42, and this game is starting to resemble the Syracuse contest, where the Jayhawks played well in the first half only to lose focus in the second half.

KU 57/CSU 37 — 11:47 left in game

Mike Wall from the Bowl is shown on the video board at Allen. It seems like almost a foregone conclusion that the KU football team will be playing there on Dec. 31.

Collins gets a steal, then takes it coast-to-coast for a two.

Morningstar is called for a questionable travel, and Self slams the press table with his hand.

McKee hits a floater in the lane, and he’s fouled by Taylor. McKee hits the free throw, and CSU has played much better in the second half.

Nice high-low pass by Markieff Morris, who rainbows it inside for Aldrich. After getting fouled, Aldrich hits both free throws.

CSU gets a three to go, and the Eagles are 9-for-12 from the field in the second half. Self won’t be happy with that.

A tough bounce pass by Collins goes through the hands of Aldrich, and KU has another turnover before the media timeout halts play.

KU 51/CSU 27 — 15:39 left in game

Set play to start the half, as Taylor feeds Aldrich for an alley-oop. Self must be getting deeper into the playbook with this young group.

Morningstar cashes another three, this one from the left wing. The best part about his points is that he’s taking shots within the offense. By my count, seven of his eight shots have been wide-open ones.

Aldrich shows his strength inside, muscling up a shot off the glass and in while getting fouled. He also hit the free throw.

KU has given up baskets inside on four straight possessions. The defense hasn’t come out as crisp as it was in the first 20 minutes.

Tough two possessions for Marcus Morris, who gets stuffed by the rim on a one-handed jam then has a pass to him inside go through his legs.

Kansas scoring

Brady Morningstar 14, Tyshawn Taylor 8, Cole Aldrich 7, Marcus Morris 5, Markieff Morris 3, Travis Releford 2, Sherron Collins 2.

Other notable stats:

• KU was 15-for-32 from the floor (47 percent) and 6-for-12 from three-point range (50 percent). CSU made just six of 27 shots (22 percent) in the first half.

• Taylor had five assists to go along with five rebounds.

• Morningstar was 5-for-7 overall and 4-for-6 from three-point range.

• CSU’s leading scorer Tywain McKee was just 1-for-9 with three points.

• Collins, coming off a frustrating second half against Syracuse, went just 1-for-5 in the first half. He had four assists, three turnovers and looked a bit hesitant when making decisions.

Though KU has lost a game, I think Jayhawk fans have to be most pleased with this team’s defense in the first five games. KU has only had one bad defensive half in the regular season, and that was the second half/overtime against Syracuse. Usually, with a young team, the defense is last to develop, but these Jayhawks look like they’re far ahead of schedule on that end of the court.

KU 41/CSU 17 — Halftime

After Taylor tracks down a loose ball, he fires it to Markieff Morris inside for a slam.

Some first-half playing time coming for Conner Teahan and Tyrone Appleton, as they check in with 2 minutes left in the half.

Jordan Lee throws in a three, and Self gets a quick timeout. CSU still is only shooting 5-for-25 from the floor.

Lazy pass from Teahan gets intercepted inside by the Eagles.

The next offensive possession, Teahan hoists up a guarded jumper from the corner with 31 left on the shot clock. It misses, and that’s two bad possessions for him.

Vince Goldsberry hits a jumper, and CSU ends the half on a 7-3 run. Still an impressive first half defensively for the Jayhawks.

KU 38/CSU 10 — 3:21 left in 1st half

The fans are having some fun with the airball chant, as nearly every Eagle has tossed up a shot that has missed everything.

Aldrich gets a three-point play inside, and later, Morningstar hits a 16-footer from the wing. At this point, Morningstar has more field goals made (four) than Coppin State (three).

Some nice hands by our own Tom Keegan, who stretched back to catch an errant throw by Travis Releford that was heading into the first row.

On the next possession, Releford, catches a ball in traffic and puts it off the glass for two, drawing a foul in the process. Releford has shown a good ability to get to the rim without getting charges.

KU 31/CSU 5 — 7:55 left in 1st half

A bad pass by Collins causes a turnover, but CSU can’t take advantage in transition.

Another three for Morningstar from the left corner. He’s 4-for-4 now without forcing a shot.

Morningstar finally misses a three from the top of the circle. He’s still perfect from the corners, though.

Taylor dishes off a nice no-look pass inside, but Marcus Morris misses the bunny. Marcus gets the bucket after grabbing the offensive rebound.

It’s an instant replay 30 seconds later, as Marcus Morris misses an easy one in the lane before ripping away the offensive rebound and putting it in for two.

KU 24/CSU 4 — 11:44 left in 1st half

Taylor, after hitting both free throws, drains a three on the next possession from the left wing. Sixteen-to-zero run for KU before a Ceslovas Kucinskas jumper.

Morningstar again shows his value, tipping out an offensive rebound to keep the possession for KU. Seconds later, he rattles in another three from the right corner.

Timeout Coppin State after the Eagles fail to get a shot up against the KU defense. Already three assists for Collins, two for Taylor and two steals for Morningstar.

On a feed from Morningstar, Aldrich takes a power dribble and posterizes Kucinskas on a dunk inside.

The next possession, Morningstar drains a three from the left corner, and he has nine points on 3-for-3 shooting from deep.

KU 11/CSU 2 — 15:42 left in 1st half

Coppin State’s Tywain McKee starts things with a tough floater in the lane, but Tyshawn Taylor answers with a three from the corner off a feed from Sherron Collins.

Cole Aldrich gets a lay-in after pulling in an offensive board. Collins originally tried to hit him on an alley-oop, but Aldrich didn’t know it was coming. He still was able to recover in time to catch the ball inside.

Morningstar gets a steal on the defensive end, and once again the Jayhawks hit the offensive glass, as Marcus Morris steals a rebound from Aldrich and gets fouled while going up for a shot, making one of two free throws.

Morningstar gets a friendly roll on a three from the corner, as the ball hit front rim and backboard before falling through. Give the assist to Collins.

Another steal for Morningstar, who crosses over before feeding Taylor on the break. Two shots coming for Taylor after the timeout.

7:04 p.m.

Starters for tonight's game: Brady Morningstar, Marcus Morris, Sherron Collins, Cole Aldrich, Tyshawn Taylor.

6:47 p.m.

Sherron Collins seemed to spend a few extra minutes at the free-throw line during shoot-around. Remember, he went just 2-for-5 from the line against Syracuse, with all of those attempts coming in the second half.

6:42 p.m.

It’s a good bet that this game will have some empty seats at the top of the Fieldhouse. The students are on Thanksgiving break, so the college turnout is much smaller than it would be in a normal regular-season game.

6:15 p.m.

It's fascinating watching the interaction between assistant coach Danny Manning and the KU players during shoot-around.

Manning is known as a quiet guy to us media types, as he's usually a guy that deflects the attention elsewhere.

He's been anything but quiet in this shoot-around. He's been laughing and joking with a lot of the players, especially the big men like the Morris twins. Manning looks like he's trying to ease the tension of some of the younger players, and those guys look like they're having a genuinely good time during layup and dunk drills.

5:45 p.m.

Welcome to the Newell Post Live, coming to you live from Allen Fieldhouse where the Kansas Jayhawks are getting set to take on the Coppin State Eagles.

Here are some quick notes about Coppin State, which comes into the game with a 1-1 record (including a 94-73 victory over Wilmington and a 66-46 loss to No. 10 Purdue).

For the second time this year, KU will go up against a preseason conference player of the year. Coppin State point guard Tywain McKee is averaging 18.5 points through two games and was selected to be the top player in the Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference this year. McKee also is one of the 35 Division-I nominees for the Bob Cousy Award, given annually to the nation’s top point guard. Some other notables on the Cousy nominee list are Sherron Collins, UCLA’s Darren Collison and Syracuse’s Jonny Flynn.

The Eagles will not play a home game until Jan. 10. After playing KU tonight, Coppin State also will take on Syracuse, Oklahoma and Missouri on the road before its first home game.

Coppin State, though it only scored 46 points against Purdue, has shot the ball well in the earlygoing. The Eagles have made 13 of their 32 three-point attempts (41 percent) and 27 of their 32 free-throw tries (84 percent).

• And just in case you missed it: The last (and only) time KU played Coppin State, Greg Ostertag had this highlight for the ages.


Dirk Medema 11 years, 10 months ago

There was a post for one of the first games for a website that showed the game online. Did anyone save the link? Does it work for this game also?As amazing as it seems, the CA stations aren't picking up the 'Hawks, and I'm not able to head to the Pub tonight.

MrPilot 11 years, 10 months ago

It was here:, I think it's just tuned to ESPNU. The game is on a local channel tonight (in central Kansas), I don't know if they'll have it on ESPNU.

Joe Joseph 11 years, 10 months ago

Let's try to keep this bias free tonight.

BCRavenJHawkfan 11 years, 10 months ago

Chalmers scores to start the game!...................sorry, I am watching the Heat Suns game but listening to the KU game.

NH_JHawk 11 years, 10 months ago

Who is this Brady Morningstar guy? Haven't seen him yet...

kuwillkillit 11 years, 10 months ago

Dont the jerseys have numbers? With an M.K and M.C. I guess announcers cant see them.

BCRavenJHawkfan 11 years, 10 months ago

Please tell me our defense is this good that has Coppin State down and not that they are no better than Levenworth High.

rockchalkin54 11 years, 10 months ago

I think Brady Morningstar is showing why he's earned a starting spot.

Joe Joseph 11 years, 10 months ago

I would like to see Kansas shoot this well against Division I teams.

nnelson 11 years, 10 months ago

Yep. Mid-eastern athletic conference.

Tony Bandle 11 years, 10 months ago

Morningstar is providing an adequate stop gap until Little returns from injuries and Releford upgrades his play to KU standards. If he is still starting in March, KU is in trouble. Frankly with a very real possibility that Cheeks, will join Johnson, Releford, Little, Taylor, Appleton and Reed next year, I wonder how much PT will be available for Morningstar, Teahan etc. Although he made some great hustle plays against Syracuse, he cannot handle the physical elite forwards and guards that will be thrown his way by the true Division ! teams.Please don't get me wrong..I love the guy. I was the 15th man on a 26-3 team my senior year so I totally appreciate what a guy can do with guts, smarts, determination and heart but I feel that over the length of a game, he becomes a liabilty when over-exposed. Am I just a hearless pragmatic or does this make sense to anyone out there??

manplanner 11 years, 10 months ago

I can't help but think all of this anti-Morningstar stuff that I've read on the boards is because the guy is white. I hate to make a racial argument here, but if he was anything else, people would see the way he d's up the best offensive player every game, flies around the court, and people would be raving about him. I'm not just blowing smoke, HCBS has had Brady defend the best shooter from the other team every single game, and I see why, he has tremendous athletic ability.

manplanner 11 years, 10 months ago

I'll make a prediction that Brady Morningstar starts every game that he is in a Kansas uniform, and deservedly so. I'm sure that Mario Little will have the opportunity to play, but right now, I see him taking minutes from Q. Thomas, who hasn't shown a thing.

Jack Wilson 11 years, 10 months ago

I already examined the racial thing .. white or black, Brady's a slow guy that can get hot every 4th game. He is not a great defender, so don't buy that. And he does not have great athletic ability .. that's crazy. But he does play hard. Heck, if he, Kleinmann and Teahan went the Wichita State, they'd be gods. But this is KU. He actually reminds me of Jeff Hawkins a bit. That's the best comparison I can think of. Remember Hawkins hitting 5 or 6 3s against TCU. Not quite the guy that should be starting for a team making a Big 12 title run, or an Elite 8 run, though. Coach Self knows that.

Underdog777 11 years, 10 months ago

Brady reminds me of Moody. I don't care what color his is...... I don't believe Nooner or Case should have started at KU and both those guys are black. Hawkins is a notch about Brady. Brady just cannot impose his will on real competition. While others who are not getting near the minutes Brady gets are playas with much higher skill levels.

Dale Kroening 11 years, 10 months ago

Brady has played well,and had a great game tonight,but dont fool yourself,Mario Little will be starting when his stress fracture heals.Dont get me wrong,I like Brady and hes a solid role player,but he's not a starter unless he can go 6-8 from downtown EVERY night and can all of a sudden get quicker on defense.I'm somewhat surprised he's starting,but I think thats because 2 things,Little being hurt,and Brady's hustle sets a good example for the young guys.

kvskubball 11 years, 10 months ago

I guess I'll let Coach decide who will start....

michaelaho 11 years, 10 months ago

Brady should not be starting, however he was part of last year's championship team, so I believe Self is starting him until Releford or Little clearly takes his spot. As painful as it is to watch him out there, I believe it's the best way for the team to gel. Hopefully, we wont lose too many game like Syracuse, until.. Can't wait for the next real game. I hate these cupcakes, I wish we played a tougher non-conference schedule to get us ready for the Big 12 season. It's gonna be a tough season.

jaybate 11 years, 10 months ago

There are two questions that need answers in the Brady vs. Little debate at the three and neither of them has to do with skin pigment.1. Can Brady ever go 6 for 8 against D1 high major competition?If the answer were yes, then it would be very tough for anyone to unseat Brady now. The team needs a gun at the three to keep the defense from packing the paint and he seems to be able to jump, run and defend sufficiently well to be the 4. Self has had him defend the first or second best perimeter player in games so far and you don't get those assignments because you're chopped liver on defense.But if the answer were no, then his days of playing big minutes, much less starting, would be numbered, because Little appears much stronger and can reputedly lock down and rebound better than Brady, and Releford can probably slash more.Brady showed no gun vs. Washington and Syracuse. He's only triggered against lesser teams. He has a history of being a dead eye shooter, so he could have just been keeping it holstered while Self routed the game through Collins and the bigs. But Brady releases his J down near his forehead and low releases are tough to get off against good D1 defenders. 2. Can Mario Little EVER go 6 for 8 from the 3 vs. high major D1 competition?If the answer were yes, then Little would get the nod for his rebounding and muscle on defense.If the answer were no, then Little would be a situational player for when Brady can't handle a really big, strong, guy taking him inside. For perspective, RR and Chalmers had to switch off to BRush to deal with this issue in previous years.Vis a vis Bradyl, Little's big problem is that he has not practiced against D1 competition day in and day out that last two years, as Brady has. People have no problem saying Cole was made a great deal better by having to play against Arthur, Kaun and DBlock last year, when Cole was playing insignificant minutes most of the year. Don't you reckon the same holds true for Brady? Brady was banging against Brandon Rush and Mario Chalmers the last TWO seasons for gosh sakes!!! Practicing against good competition doesn't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Matt Kleinmann is still not a potential starter. But so far, it appears that Brady has D1 tools and practicing against Rush and Chalmers made him a heck of a lot better.Frankly, the absolute best thing for KU is for both Brady AND Mario to be able to answer the questions above YES! Why? Because we'll be in the Final Four, if both can pop the triceratop and defend and each be 20 minute men.

jaybate 11 years, 10 months ago

MISCELLANEOUS...Releford Development Begins: after Syracuse, I said look for Self to start developing Releford's slash game, because Self's got the cornerstone offense/defense worked out. Against Coppin, Self began that process with 13 minutes facilitated in part by Taylor leaving early. Releford responded with about what one would expect: 3-6 inside, no trey attempts, and 3 reebs. The bad news was 2-5 on FTs and 2 TOs. So: the T-Man has been red lighted from Trifectaville, and he's got some FT and TO issues cramping his minutes. Still, KU needs a situational slasher, board man, and true two defender on the perimeter. But its tough to be that guy, if you can't channel charities. Presently, it appears T-Man will see situational action, if he can find a FT stroke, curb the TOs and respect the red-lighted two. Most likely, T-Man is aimed for an experience kind of like Cole Aldrich's last year. He's this large talent in incubation. Look for T-Man to be good enough down the stretch to let our starters be very aggressive, because he gives us 6-10 quality minutes at the two. You can already see that when an opponents 2 or 3 gets a second or third foul, it may be diabolically clever to bring Releford in to slash on the guy and get him "fouled" up.Perimeter Rebounding Report: Best news of this game, even better than Brady lighting it up from trey (he's supposed to be able to do that) was 15 reebs from Brady (7), Taylor (5), and Travis (3). Granted it did not happen against a D1 high major, but at least it did happen. It has not happened at all before this regardless of competition. Perimeter rebounding is another traditional way Self's teams chip away at opponents. This bodes well for our team's development.

jaybate 11 years, 10 months ago

MORE MISCELLANEOUS...The Gold Report: Collins became dish man, cutting his shots and scoring in half. 11 shots is just right. 11 points is too low though. He was 0 for 3 from trey. On a normal night he'll hit one or two of those and be at 14-17 points and that's perfect for him. As I said yesterday, they need to bring his FGAs and PPGs down a little and spread his foregone scoring through the bigs. Last night that foregone scoring got spread to Cole and Brady. So be it.The Silver Report: Cole is really playing well. Against the chumps he's a 23 and 11 guy. Against serious competition, he's a 15 and 10 guy. But could he beast this year; have a 30 point and 15 rebound night? He sure LOOKS like he could, but I sense he's a season away from beasting. Either way, beasting is in this guy's future.The Quantum Report: Quantum Taylor turned an ankle and left early, but still had the busiest line score of anyone. Note I said busy. He doesn't top the team in particular stats yet, but he's omni-productive. This kind of broad productivity betrays a guy who is so freaking quick that offense his defender can't stick with him anywhere on the floor and on defense he's so quick he's comps for rudimentary fundamentals. This guy just gets to places on the floor be it on offense, or defense, faster than every one else. He's like having a really rangy photon packet on the team. Reed Report: Low impact line scores are not good for TyRee, but he's still the only jaw out pugnacious guy on the squad and the team needs this. As long as he holds his TOs down, and continues to defend, he's going to eek out 10-15 minutes, because everyone else IS making TOs and his gun is needed, whether actually fired or not. But he needs a break out Trifecta night, like Brady had, to cement that role.

jaybate 11 years, 10 months ago

FINAL MISCELLANEOUS...Marcus Report: Pre Beasting continues. Marcus seems a guy who could one day beast, but right now he's suffering from a bad case of big man scoring inefficiency. 2 of 7 from inside? Versus Coppin? Just dunk for a few games, wouldja? Up arrow for 9 glass vacs. But improving his scoring efficiency remains crucial to this team being an inside/outside monster.Kieff Report: Kieff appears to have entered the land of big man funk, aka Arthuritis, after a spike in performance that got me excited. This too shall pass. But he's got to get on the glass.The Marcus/Kieff Composite Report: 9 pts. and 10 reebs. We can live with this when someone has a hot three hand, but we really need 15 and 12. Again, Kieff has got to on the glass.Quintrell Digest: Ditto Arthuritis. He slumped into it first and I'm hoping he is the first to emerge from it.Teahan Footnote: Conner just keeps digging the hole deeper. Conner in a shooting slump is one of the strangest phenomena ever. Self is as dumbfounded as everyone else. But at this point, Conner will get a few late game looks in blow outs, but at this point he appears to be a dead man walking for this season, anyway.Appleton Footnote: He didn't hurt himself, but he didn't help himself.

RedRed 11 years, 10 months ago

Jaybate ....I can't disagree with what you posted !

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