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Originally published November 25, 2008 at 08:04p.m., updated November 25, 2008 at 11:47p.m.

FINAL: Syracuse takes down KU, 89-81, in OT

Syracuse forward Arinze Onuaku pulls a rebound away from Kansas center Cole Aldrich late in the second half of the CBE Classic, Tuesday, Nov. 25, 2008 at the Sprint Center in Kansas City, Mo.

Syracuse forward Arinze Onuaku pulls a rebound away from Kansas center Cole Aldrich late in the second half of the CBE Classic, Tuesday, Nov. 25, 2008 at the Sprint Center in Kansas City, Mo.

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KU leads Syracuse 41-30 at halftime

KU is leading Syracuse 41-30 at halftime.

Reader poll

Who was KU's first-half MVP against Syracuse?

  • Sherron Collins 21% 34 votes
  • Tyshawn Taylor 57% 90 votes
  • Cole Aldrich 17% 28 votes
  • Marcus Morris 1% 3 votes
  • Other 0% 1 vote

156 total votes.

Reader poll

What will be the result of tonight's game?

  • Syracuse wins by 10+ points 2% 2 votes
  • Syracuse wins by 1-9 points 8% 7 votes
  • KU wins by 1-9 points 51% 42 votes
  • KU wins by 10+ points 37% 31 votes

82 total votes.

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KU vs. Syracuse

  • Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 9:15 p.m.
  • Sprint Center, 1407 Grand Blvd., Kansas City, MO
  • All ages

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FINAL: Syracuse takes down KU, 89-81, in OT

Flynn hits two free throws, and Collins finally gets a fadeaway three to go down with 18 seconds left.

Flynn misses a pair of free throws, but Taylor gets up in the air without knowing what he’s doing with it, throwing it straight to an SU defender to kill any hope of a comeback.

Devendorf gets two more freebies, and Collins misses a three at the buzzer. KU is handed its first loss of the year.

SU 85/KU 78 — 31.8 seconds left in overtime

Rautins hits an open three from the wing, and KU’s defense has fallen apart late.

Reed’s three rims out on the other end, and Aldrich and Marcus Morris fight over the offensive rebound before bouncing it out of bounds.

Devendorf hits a layup in the lane, and this one’s as good as over.

Airball Teahan and rebound SU. Harris makes a free throws, and the Orange is up nine.

Aldrich gets a stickback on a miss from Reed, but KU needs a miracle down seven with 31.8 seconds left.

SU 79/KU 76 — 1:43 left in overtime

Aldrich rattles in the second free throw, and KU is up 76-75.

Rautins misses an open three, but Harris gets the weak-side rebound and puts it in for two.

Marcus Morris throws the ball away on the ensuing possession, and Onuaku hits a hook in the lane to push the lead to three.

Collins airballs a stepback jumper, and KU needs a defensive stop in the worst way. Timeout SU.

KU 72/SU 72 — End of regulation

Collins almost gets tied up off an inbounds pass, but he quickly calls timeout to keep possession. Syracuse has the possession arrow.

Aldrich is fouled with 19.2 seconds left. Swishes the first one, leaves the second one short.

Flynn hits a tough three with 6 seconds left to tie it, and Collins’ wild 18-footer from the buzzer bounces off the top of the backboard. We’re headed to overtime.

KU 71/SU 69 — 30.7 seconds left in game

Two big blocks inside from Syracuse, and Flynn draws contact from Reed, getting a foul and tying the game with two free throws.

Marcus Morris feeds Aldich inside for a short jumper to put KU up 71-69 with 50 seconds left.

Aldrich comes through with a steal, but Collins is rejected by Harris on a layup attempt.

KU 69/SU 67 — 1:36 left in game

Collins misses the front end. Will missing free throws against Syracuse cost Kansas again?

Reed forces a jump-ball, and the arrow gives it back to KU. Reed follows with a couple quick dribbles into the lane, dishing off to Aldrich for a stuff.

Devendorf takes it to the basket on the other end, making both free throws and drawing the fourth foul on Aldrich.

After a wild shot from Collins, Taylor fouls Flynn on a drive (Taylor’s fourth foul), and the two freebies cut KU’s lead to 69-67 with 1:52 left.

KU 67/SU 63 — 3:18 left in game

Devendorf misses a pair of crucial free throws for Syracuse, and the Jayhawks’ lead stays at four.

Markieff and Marcus Morris both force up a pair of bad misses, but Marcus comes back with a big play on defense, rejecting a Flynn shot in the lane.

Taylor raced to the other end, putting in a layup with a whistle. He missed the free throw, though, unable to complete the three-point play.

Devendorf forces up a three after an SU timeout, and it falls in to make it a one-possession game.

Markieff Morris misses the front end of a one-and-one, but Marcus comes up with a steal on the other end. Taylor hits another layup in transition to push KU’s lead to five.

Marcus comes up big again inside, grabbing a Collins miss and putting it off the glass for two.

Flynn has an answer, though, dribbling all the way under the basket and swishing a three from the corner to make it 67-63.

KU 61/SU 57 — 7:11 left in game

After a Collins free throw, Onuaku battles for a two inside.

Harris makes one of two free throws after getting hacked inside, and the score is tied at 54 with 10:08 left.

A key switch for Syracuse has been the adjustment back to a man defense. The Orange have forced numerous turnovers, and the Jayhawks look timid on offense.

After a missed SU three, Collins confidently hits a pull-up jumper, pounding his fist into his hand and bringing the crowd to its feet.

Andy Rautins silences the fans, hitting a three from the corner to puts SU up one at 57-56.

Aldrich follows with a tough, guarded jumper in the lane, and Reed hits a three from the corner to push KU’s lead to four.

The pro-KU crowd stands once again, and right now is the loudest it’s been in the Sprint Center in the last two days.

KU 53/SU 51 — 11:16 left in game

Reed drains a three from the corner, and quickly KU has rebuilt a 51-38 lead.

Onuaku gets an easy two inside, and Aldrich draws some ‘oohs’ on the other end, using an impressive up-and-under move to school his defender. Unfortunately for KU, Aldrich misses the bunny, then he fouls a Syracuse player on the other end.

Marcus Morris delivers a nice feed to brother Markieff for a two, but things get ugly for KU after that. The Orange get a dunk off KU’s made basket, and Collins twice dribbles the ball right into SU’s defense for turnovers. The Orange get two easy buckets in the lane from Flynn, who screams out his excitement.

KU takes another timeout, but Flynn gets another steal after the break and Harris gets two in transition. KU’s now only up 53-49, and Flynn is pumped up, screaming towards every KU player he can find.

Harris hits another baseline jumper, and KU’s lead is down to two.

KU 47/SU 38 — 15:53 left in game

Morningstar hits a wide-open three from the right side. It’s the kind of shot he has to hit when he’s in to keep defenses honest.

Syracuse is whistled for offensive goaltending on the other end, and a good pass inside from Morningstar will get Marcus Morris two shots, as he’s fouled on a layup attempt.

KU 44/SU 38 — 16:51 left in game

Paul Harris gets the first bucket of the second half, but Taylor responded by floating in a shot off the glass.

A great pass inside by Flynn gets Onuaku an easy two inside.

Taylor follows with his charge for the game before walking over to have a meeting with Self.

Collins is phantom-fouled on a drive in the lane, and he makes one of two free throws to push KU’s lead to 44-34.

Syracuse is starting to have success on the offensive boards, and Harris gets fouled on a stickback before hitting two free throws.

Marcus Morris isn’t ready for a pass from Collins inside, and Flynn makes it hurt worse, turning the mistake into a dunk on the other end. Self calls a quick timeout with KU’s lead down to 44-38.

Kansas scoring

Sherron Collins 14, Tyshawn Taylor 11, Marcus Morris 6, Cole Aldrich 4, Brady Morningstar 3, Markieff Morris 3.

Some Notes

• KU was 16-for-35 from the floor (46 percent). SU was 9-for-26 (35 percent).

• KU is out-rebounding SU, 20-15.

• Tyrel Reed has four assists in 10 minutes.

• KU made four of 11 three-point attempts (36 percent).

The Jayhawks will need to continue to pass the ball well to get open shots against the 2-3 zone. KU attacked it pretty well in the first half, but it also helped that Collins hit a couple threes over the top of the set. If KU can continue to execute offensively, it should be able to hold on to the 11-point advantage.

KU 41/SU 30 — Halftime

Reed gets a cheap foul while guarding Devendorf, and that’s his third whistle. Morningstar comes in to replace him.

KU picks up another touch foul, and Self is tearing into an official on the sideline. That’s 11 fouls on KU, compared to five for Syracuse.

Marcus Morris finds an open spot in the 2-3 zone, putting in an 11-foot jumper on the baseline.

After a Syracuse basket inside, Collins hits another three from the top. He’s been playing well with two fouls.

Morningstar gets fouled on a three from the corner, and his three free throws push the lead back up to 39-30.

Travis Releford and Tyrone Appleton check in for the last minute, most likely for defensive purposes.

Morningstar gets a steal, and on the offensive end, Appleton delivers a nice no-look pass to Marcus Morris for an easy two. KU’s defense holds, and the Jayhawks take a double-digit lead into the break.

KU 31/SU 25 — 3:48 left in 1st half

Collins tries to make a tough pass in transition, and Tyrel Reed is called for a charge. After getting eye contact with Collins, KU coach Bill Self told him, ‘Conner was wide open.’ And the coach was right. An easy feed out to the corner would have gotten the Jayhawks a wide-open three from one of their best perimeter shooters. Sometimes, the simple play is the best play.

Marcus Morris hits a 13-footer in the lane, and KU’s lead is up to 26-16.

It’s a track meet now, with both teams racing from end to end. The biggest force inside is Aldrich, though, who changes one Syracuse shot on a break, then blocks another try on the next Orange possession.

Devendorf hits another three from the side, and Self calls timeout with the Jayhawks’ lead down to 26-21.

A sign shown on the video board during the break: “Mizzou fans love the Orange.” Guess the MU fans didn’t have anything better to do on a Tuesday night.

Flynn gets a steal and dunk, and the Orange is on a 7-0 run.

Collins hits a three from the top over the zone, and KU needs more of those shots to go down.

Collins once again beats the zone on a cut to the lane, receiving a pass from Aldrich before getting a goaltending call on Syracuse.

KU 24/SU 15 — 7:39 left in 1st half

Taylor elevates in the lane on the secondary break for a two. Seconds later, Onuaku gets his second foul on a bad over-the-back call.

I keep hearing how Brady Morningstar is unathletic, and yet, he keeps making athletic plays. He elevates way up to reject a Devendorf layup, and Taylor took advantage on the other end, pulling up for a 15-footer to give KU a 15-10 lead.

Taylor his a three from the left wing, and seconds later, he steals the ball then does a spin move in transition for a layup. The freshman is taking this game over with Collins on the bench, scoring nine straight points for the Jayhawks.

Devendorf has started to heat up, hitting a mid-range jumper and also a three from the top of the circle.

Aldrich gets a screen inside and takes advantage, making a 7-footer on the baseline.

Conner Teahan also has checked in for KU.

KU 11/SU 8 — 11:59 left in 1st half

Taylor slaps the ball away from a Syracuse player, then gets a two to go down on the other end. Afterwards, he looked at the official, asking for a foul he didn’t get.

Syracuse has gone into its patented 2-3 zone, and KU attacks it well on one possession, getting it to Cole Aldrich inside, who passed it to a cutting Collins for a layup.

Collins gets a cheap foul at the 13:24 mark, and he has to sit with two personals.

Markieff Morris hits a three from the top of the key, shooting it even though the Jayhawk fans gasped when he started to hoist the shot. He has that kind of range, and KU fans should get more used to seeing him put up that shot as the year goes on.

SU 5/KU 4 — 15:40 left in 1st half

Good start for KU’s defense, as it forces a shot-clock violation on Syracuse’s first possession. Tyshawn Taylor is indeed guarding Jonny Flynn.

Kristof Ongenaet hits the first bucket for Syracuse — a reverse lay-in — before Sherron Collins answers with a pull-up 18-footer.

KU’s struggling with chip shots, as Brady Morningstar missed an open layup, and a few seconds later, Taylor bricked a gimmie in transition.

Collins gets a stickback off an offensive board, giving him the Jayhawks’ first four points.

Markieff Morris misses another layup inside, and KU can’t seem to get an easy shot to go down.

9:23 p.m.

The Sprint Center turned off the lights for the player introductions. Interesting choice. They did show off their NBA-like atmosphere with plenty of crazy spotlights shining on the players.

By the way, KU’s starters are the same as Monday: Sherron Collins, Cole Aldrich, Brady Morningstar, Tyshawn Taylor and Marcus Morris.

9:20 p.m.

The Sprint Center is much more full tonight. Looks like the only empty seats are up in the rafters. Guess word spreads quickly that the Jayhawks are playing pretty well right now.

8:55 p.m.

Florida hangs on to take an 86-84 victory over Washington in the first game. The Huskies actually executed well on the final possession to give themselves a chance down by three. After getting fouled with 2.5 seconds left, UW’s Isaiah Thomas made the first free throw, then purposely missed the second. Washington’s Jon Brockman grabbed the rebound, but his fadeaway at the buzzer from 16 feet came up short.

The Huskies looked much better on offense tonight, which shows just how well KU played defensively Monday.

8:30 p.m.

Tonight’s game will most likely be decided on the defensive end for the Jayhawks.

The Orange comes in averaging 84 points per game. It has also made 51 percent of its shots in four games.

KU’s defense, meanwhile, has been its strength in the early season. The Jayhawks have held opponents to a 27.5-percent shooting percentage (an amazing number if you think about it) and only 51.7 points per game.

Syracuse also has an advantage from the outside, making 31.8 percent of its threes (KU has made 25 percent of its three-point shots this year).

The aforementioned Flynn, Devendorf and Onuaku haven’t seen a defense like KU’s this season, but if they can still get their team somewhere into the mid-70s scoring-wise, the Orange have a great chance of winning this game.

8:06 p.m.

Welcome to the Newell Post Live, coming to you live from the Sprint Center in Kansas City, Mo., where Kansas is getting set to take on Syracuse in the championship game of the CBE Classic.

Some quick notes from Syracuse, which comes into the game at 4-0 with victories over Le Moyne, Richmond, Oakland and No. 18 Florida.

The Orange is led by 6-foot point guard Jonny Flynn, who has led his team in scoring in all four games. From seeing him Monday, he was quick and shifty and was able to get to the basket off the dribble often against Florida. I would guess that defensive assignment would go to Tyshawn Taylor, so expect a lot of minutes from him tonight.

Eric Devendorf, a McDonald’s All-American in 2005, has averaged 13.8 points per game. He averaged 17 points per game last year before going down in the 10th game of the season with an ACL tear. Somewhat scary for KU is that Devendorf shot a horrible percentage against Florida on Monday, making just three of 12 shots and only one of his six three-point attempts.

Arinze Onuaku, a 6-foot-9, 275-pound center, has made 24 of his 32 shots this year. That’s good for 75 percent. He went 5-for-8 Monday, so it will be interesting to see how he does inside against Cole Aldrich.

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cwag (anonymous) says...

Florida leads Washinton 72-67 with 7 minutes left in the consolation game.

November 25, 2008 at 8:29 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

lance1jhawk (anonymous) says...

Flynn vs. Collins will be a game all in its own tonight.NH_Jhawk... we may have to break out the JWB and will this one through :)

November 25, 2008 at 8:47 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

NH_JHawk (anonymous) says...

May have to? Scotch guard game is on!

November 25, 2008 at 8:56 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhwk5288 (anonymous) says...

now we have to wait for ball state and western michigan to end before we see our game.

November 25, 2008 at 8:56 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jnewell (Jesse Newell) says...

lance — But will Self put Collins on Flynn? The coach has said earlier this year that he didn't want Collins to guard the opposition's best guard so that he could save up some energy on offense. I'd say it's clear that Flynn is the Orange's best offensive player, so we'll see if it's Taylor or Collins goes against him.

November 25, 2008 at 8:57 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

chuckberry32 (anonymous) says...

so what is expected tip time? 9:30?

November 25, 2008 at 9:01 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

kushaw (anonymous) says...

Oh my! Why does KU have to wait until after this football game. This always happens to KU.

November 25, 2008 at 9:03 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhwk5288 (anonymous) says...

tip is 10:24pm ET

November 25, 2008 at 9:03 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jnewell (Jesse Newell) says...

9:20 is when the clock will go to zeroes here. I'd guess around 5 mins. after that.

November 25, 2008 at 9:03 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

kushaw (anonymous) says...

I don't think Collins will start on Flynn. Taylor gets the assignment in my opinon.

November 25, 2008 at 9:04 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

NH_JHawk (anonymous) says...

<---------JWB - Enjoy lance1!

November 25, 2008 at 9:08 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

mushhawk (anonymous) says...

damn ball state! :(

November 25, 2008 at 9:09 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

wischalk (anonymous) says...

Damn the fact that I have to listen to Dickie V for this game. I really enjoyed Coach Knight's commentary last night. No stupididity. No nonsense. Most of all... no screaming that makes me want to punch a baby. Not to mention comments like, "if there is better potential center in the country I don't know about him," in reference to Cole.Going to be very interesting to see how we shoot the three against what will likely be a fair dose of zone today. I have been curious to see in Tyshawn can has any shooting range. I really haven't seen him attempt much of anything outside the paint so far this season.

November 25, 2008 at 9:22 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

kushaw (anonymous) says...

Taylor on Flynn!

November 25, 2008 at 9:25 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

wischalk (anonymous) says...

My goodness my grammar is embarrassing when I can't keep a single train of thought with Vitale blaring in my ears...

November 25, 2008 at 9:27 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

cwag (anonymous) says...

Tie him up with your ties, Ty!

November 25, 2008 at 9:29 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

wischalk (anonymous) says...

Two straight missed layups... *gag*

November 25, 2008 at 9:30 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

cwag (anonymous) says...

Missing too many easy ones.

November 25, 2008 at 9:31 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

chuckberry32 (anonymous) says...

layup drills tomorrow!!!

November 25, 2008 at 9:31 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

cwag (anonymous) says...

Geez, these refs getting paid by the whistle? Talk about a game with no flow....

November 25, 2008 at 9:41 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

cwag (anonymous) says...

Onuaku in foul trouble - should free up Cole some.

November 25, 2008 at 9:46 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

chuckberry32 (anonymous) says...

go taylor go

November 25, 2008 at 9:48 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

cwag (anonymous) says...

T. Taylor - 11 pts.J. Flynn - 1 pt.

November 25, 2008 at 9:49 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhwk5288 (anonymous) says...

1.. tyshawn taylor..STUD2. can anyone tell me what happened to mario little? i think i missed why he isnt playing

November 25, 2008 at 9:49 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

wischalk (anonymous) says...

Tyshawn is my hero!

November 25, 2008 at 9:50 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

wischalk (anonymous) says...

5288... Little still has not healed the "stress reaction" in his leg. Out for injury.

November 25, 2008 at 9:52 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

NH_JHawk (anonymous) says...

look out B12. This team could be dangerous by conf. play. lots of weapons emerging...

November 25, 2008 at 9:53 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

truehawkfan (anonymous) says...

I love Taylor. What a high energy player. Can we hit a frickin three!!!!

November 25, 2008 at 9:56 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

cwag (anonymous) says...

Little man syndrome with that ref.

November 25, 2008 at 9:56 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhwk5288 (anonymous) says...

so how good is mario littleimmediate impact player?

November 25, 2008 at 9:57 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

BannerforKirk (anonymous) says...

This team runs the zone offense better than any other young team I think I've ever seen. Some of these guys are already incredible passers. Now, if they can just turn into finishers (how many missed layups tonight?) then this team can be very, very special by the end of this season - forget next year.

November 25, 2008 at 9:58 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

cwag (anonymous) says...

Gonna be hard to get TT out of that starting spot now.

November 25, 2008 at 9:59 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

truehawkfan (anonymous) says...

I really think he will be in the starting lineup after Christmas. From the limited time he has played, I think he can be a high impact player on this team. Everyone seems to say he is a great defensive player. We will have to wait and see.

November 25, 2008 at 10 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

kc_wildfire (anonymous) says...

I know we are playing against the vaunted Syracuse zone but Teahan in before Releford? Is Self trying to make a point to him? Is he not practicing hard enough?

November 25, 2008 at 10:01 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

truehawkfan (anonymous) says...

I don't know what is going on with Releford, but the only thing I can think of is that Teehan is an outside shooter and Releford is a slasher. I would just like to see someone besides Collins hit a three.

November 25, 2008 at 10:04 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

truehawkfan (anonymous) says...

These refs are really bad. Shut up Vitale.

November 25, 2008 at 10:05 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

rtjayhawk (anonymous) says...

Reed comitting too many fouls....

November 25, 2008 at 10:07 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

cwag (anonymous) says...

Only 1 of Reed's 3 was legit.

November 25, 2008 at 10:09 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

truehawkfan (anonymous) says...

I agree.

November 25, 2008 at 10:09 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

wischalk (anonymous) says...

So a guy just jumped onto Cole and climbed for a while. No call. Meanwhile... everything we do is a foul. WTF refs?

November 25, 2008 at 10:10 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

rtjayhawk (anonymous) says...

Hey - we're hitting free throws against Syracuse....better than '03, right?

November 25, 2008 at 10:10 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhwk5288 (anonymous) says...

this team is going to be special..wow

November 25, 2008 at 10:12 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

cwag (anonymous) says...

Halftime box -http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=283300183

November 25, 2008 at 10:13 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

truehawkfan (anonymous) says...

Ehh. Seriously guys. These refs suck.

November 25, 2008 at 10:14 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

rtjayhawk (anonymous) says...

Doesn't Harris (Syracuse) have 2 fouls? ESPN is only showing 1....

November 25, 2008 at 10:14 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

NH_JHawk (anonymous) says...

Releford's bench time is a mystery to me. There has to be something going on with him that's unknown to us. Practice issues? Personal issues? Injury? Who knows...Teahan before Releford pretty much says it all. Another great half minus the missed layups. Exceeding expectations (so far).

November 25, 2008 at 10:16 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

chuckberry32 (anonymous) says...

Touche rtjayhawk

November 25, 2008 at 10:18 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jnewell (Jesse Newell) says...

Harris has two fouls.

November 25, 2008 at 10:18 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

10point8 (anonymous) says...

Reed really needs to start hitting from the outside. Really.

November 25, 2008 at 10:20 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

fan408785 (anonymous) says...

Feeling good about this one. My wife and I got married on 11/25/06 when we beat Florida. Last year we beat Arizona on the 25th. Tonight Syracuse. Happy Anniversary to me.

November 25, 2008 at 10:28 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

truehawkfan (anonymous) says...

At least you can remember when your anniversary!! Can someone please give me a heads up as to when mine is so I can get off the couch and back in my bed!

November 25, 2008 at 10:30 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

cwag (anonymous) says...

Ongenaet - 3 fouls

November 25, 2008 at 10:33 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

truehawkfan (anonymous) says...

Anyone know why Appleton isn't playing more than he is?

November 25, 2008 at 10:34 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

truehawkfan (anonymous) says...

Appleton and Releford are mysteries to me.

November 25, 2008 at 10:35 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

chuckberry32 (anonymous) says...

good timeout

November 25, 2008 at 10:35 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

chuckberry32 (anonymous) says...

with reed and morningstar in Collins is really our 3 threat. I don't like this lineup, put Conner in instead of Reed.

November 25, 2008 at 10:36 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

10point8 (anonymous) says...

An inside source recently told me that Appleton isn't that good.

November 25, 2008 at 10:37 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

chuckberry32 (anonymous) says...

never mind

November 25, 2008 at 10:38 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

truehawkfan (anonymous) says...

Its about time someone else made a 3

November 25, 2008 at 10:38 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

truehawkfan (anonymous) says...

I can't wait to see what Little can do. We are very deep this year.

November 25, 2008 at 10:42 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

truehawkfan (anonymous) says...

Alright Reed. Lets go now. We need Morningstar and Reed to hit those shots.

November 25, 2008 at 10:44 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

cwag (anonymous) says...

Did Syracuse get those jerseys printed up at Oak Park Mall?

November 25, 2008 at 10:45 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

chuckberry32 (anonymous) says...

what the heck just happened here?

November 25, 2008 at 10:52 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

truehawkfan (anonymous) says...

Collins just let Flynn get in his head. We did not adjust well to their man d. ahhhhh!!!

November 25, 2008 at 10:53 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

cwag (anonymous) says...

Too much youth, not enough poise. We'll get better though.

November 25, 2008 at 10:57 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

TNJhawk (anonymous) says...

Wheels falling off the wagon here... horrible passing and ball movement.Why did SU ever play a zone in this game?

November 25, 2008 at 10:57 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

truehawkfan (anonymous) says...

Collins + Aldrich = peanut and Jelly!!! Get us going guys.

November 25, 2008 at 11:01 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

wischalk (anonymous) says...

that 3 on the move by reed was badass... that is what i want to see.

November 25, 2008 at 11:07 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

wischalk (anonymous) says...

OMG taylor has some skills

November 25, 2008 at 11:12 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

truehawkfan (anonymous) says...

He has been huge tonight. What a game.

November 25, 2008 at 11:12 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

cwag (anonymous) says...

Well, we need the extra practice.

November 25, 2008 at 11:26 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

NH_JHawk (anonymous) says...

Not a good decision by Sherron there. Run the offense!

November 25, 2008 at 11:36 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

stupidmichael (anonymous) says...

1:43 left. This game is over. Free throws doom KU against SU once again.Go f***ing figure.

November 25, 2008 at 11:36 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

TNJhawk (anonymous) says...

Still not sold on Collins being the man. Worst coast to coast ever at the end of regulation. Like last year, he's great up until about the last 5 minutes then it's choke city.

November 25, 2008 at 11:39 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

cwag (anonymous) says...

Have a Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

November 25, 2008 at 11:45 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

SEKJHAWK42 (anonymous) says...

Don't understand Morningstar's role in the offense? He doesn't play shut down defense why is he on the court?

November 25, 2008 at 11:45 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

SEKJHAWK42 (anonymous) says...

Also a big fan of being up by three and fouling and NOT giving a team a shot at a game tying three!

November 25, 2008 at 11:46 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

kusayzone (anonymous) says...

Put this one on Collins--lost his cool to Flynn. Playing for himself. Example 30 some seconds and ball and he loses ball out of bounds ---time more important than points at that part of the game

November 25, 2008 at 11:48 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

BannerforKirk (anonymous) says...

There was too much time left on the clock to foul in that circumstance - the three at the end of regulation was more of a problem of a defensive breakdown (Collins seems to have lost the play for a few seconds there around that screen) than strategy. If any team should understand how those things could happen, it should be us.It was a tough game, horrible to lose to Syracuse, especially with freethrows contributing so significantly, but this young team had a 13 point lead, managed to still get it into overtime after giving up that lead, and just got worn out. There are so many positives to take from this game as a fan of this team that no one should hang their head for too long. And, for those complaining about Reed or Morningstar - they both were huge contributors tonight. Reed had a ton of assists and Morningstar made some great plays - like the block - that helped build that big lead at the end. I would've personally liked to have seen some different lineups when they got out of sync, but Coach Self knows the team better and made the decisions he made. He's no longer a "choke" artist Coach, so hopefully he'll get the benefit of the doubt for the near future.

November 25, 2008 at 11:55 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

cffighter86 (anonymous) says...

Are you really going to blame this loss on Collins? Your the most ignorant fan ever. You all bad mouthing Collins need to chill out, he is the best player on this team. You wander why he couldn't go coast to coast at the end of the game? Because Harris played excellent defense to prevent him from getting to the middle of the court. Johnny Flynn is a heck of a player for Cuse that kid can straight up ball.

November 25, 2008 at 11:56 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

BannerforKirk (anonymous) says...

"Put this one on Collins?" The guy, without which, we wouldn't have been in the game in the first place? Yes, maybe there is a teaching moment in there for him - I agree he seemed to lose his composure with that Syracuse punk - but I'm hardly going to blame our best and most consistent player for losing a tough game.

November 25, 2008 at 11:57 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Keckadek (anonymous) says...

Not sold on Collins... please. He's the man.

November 25, 2008 at 11:57 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

NH_JHawk (anonymous) says...

We let this game slip away due to some mental lapses and poor decisions down the stretch. Not totally unexpected for this young team, but disappointing nonetheless given we had our foot on their throat with a double digit 2nd half lead. Their 2nd half man to man defense changed the momentum entirely which precipitated that series of KU turnovers on successive possessions. Our double digit lead evaporated faster than rain in the desert. I also thought we got tired toward the end as evidenced by Sherron's poor decision/airball shot toward the end of regulation. We've got to learn how to finish games like this and also finish layups. Those missed layups hurt us especially early in the game.Cole continues to be a bright spot and is a rebounding machine. Love this kid and love the way he throws the quick outlet pass. TT also flashed some brilliance tonight which is a sign of things to come. Overall this game will serve as a valuable learning experience and ultimately it will help us mature faster. That's the takeaway point from this game. Don't be too disappointed by this loss. This is all part of the learning process and we'll be better off because of it come conference play.

November 26, 2008 at 12:01 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

BannerforKirk (anonymous) says...

Oh yeah, to whoever called Sherron a "choker" in the last 5 minutes, I would suggest going back and watching the end of the National Championship game. Tell us how much he "choked" at the end of the biggest game in his life.

November 26, 2008 at 12:08 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Strikewso (anonymous) says...

Collins is solid, but these guys did get tired at the end. The last ten minutes were pretty sloppy. Reminded me of the Maui Classic a few years ago.

November 26, 2008 at 12:15 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Strikewso (anonymous) says...

BTW, what is it about Syracuse and free throws for us?

November 26, 2008 at 12:16 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

NH_JHawk (anonymous) says...

kusayzone - no need to "put this one on Collins" at all. He made some poor decisions down the stretch, but without him we aren't even in this game. Period! If anything put this one on the free throw shooting. Young teams will always make mistakes but free throws should be a given.

November 26, 2008 at 12:18 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

100 (anonymous) says...

We'll be fine. An awfully tough loss when they knew they couldve stretched the lead to 20. Shouldve switched out a couple of players earlier, but this isn't the NCAA tourney, it's just a chance to see where we're at. We were the best team there by far. Just composure issues, defensive schemes to work on, and also allowing the simplicity to rule in crunch time -- go to Aldrich on a set play. Use Collins on a set play. We have the guys, we just didn't have the composure at the end. We will later in the season. Now I really hope we run into those G.W.'s during the NCAA tourney. Rock Chalk Jayhawk.

November 26, 2008 at 12:22 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

memhawk (anonymous) says...

The streak where we missed shots within 5 ft. of the basket early in the first half should have been a sign. The big MO could have made the difference in our confidence level that would have carried through. How did we let them get off all of those 3 pointers? Cole reminded me of some of last year's games for Arthur where he was just part of the crowd and wasn't really contributing. Overall, just a sloppy, dis-jointed game, the likes we haven't seen for a long time. This will be a low point for the year, no doubt. Since the next game is Friday night, right after T'giving, hopefully there'll be enough time to really "learn" from tonight and rebound (pun) by punishing Coppin State. Then, it's 3 games in five days all against three more schools whose names all end in "State". Seems like redemption through whipping up on these teams still might not result in feeling better about tonight's loss.

November 26, 2008 at 12:23 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

PikesPeakSmitty (anonymous) says...

The loss hurts, but I'm so excited about our blooming talent... especially taylor!!! Seeing his 'Fight' and ball handling at high speed made him worthy of wearing #15. I also love the confidence of the twins... fun, fun, fun.Collins is awesome, but let me say, there will be 'mental' breakdowns and times we just can not count on him. We need Aldrich or Taylor to be that man.Morningstar looks like a walk on. Reed is solid. I feel we're missing 1 man to make this team complete.. Thomas looks awkward, Appleton must be sucking in practice to get so few minutes. Hopefully Little will be good.

November 26, 2008 at 12:40 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Jimbo77 (anonymous) says...

I think Morris twins are not aggressive enough. This is very disappointing.They rather pass than just dunk the damn ball and take over the game...(Oh...sorry I don't think they can dunk the ball). They freakin' miss lay-ups...Are they competing against Red headed Kleinman?..

November 26, 2008 at 12:42 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

jaybate (anonymous) says...

We played quite well until we lost our legs. From then on our shooting AND FT shooting went south.Our biggest mistake was failing to cram it into Cole every time, while 'Cuse was in M2M; that was the time for us to make their bigs foul and foul out. Cole seemed to be able to jump hook'em to death, even though his J was not falling. I thought it was one of the few times Self has not jumped on that sort of opportunity. Maybe he told them to do it and they just didn't. But he didn't call a time out and try to get the guys to play through the bigs during this stretch either. Regardless, Syracuse was a great experience for this team. Syracuse was big and brawny. They were strong. We were the better team until the physical pounding wore us down. The Morris twins are now going to understand why they are on a weight training program.Cole learned he can play with the big boys, but he cannot yet dominate a game against guys like that.Tyshawn looked great until the stretch and OT; then he disappeared.Sherron just plain ran out of gas and shouldn't have been playing the OT. My guess is he got injured some time during the second half, even before the foul where he got ridden out of bounds on the baseline. He probably faked being okay. Regardless, we saw tonight that he is too short to create his trey at crunch time when the other team is switching. Not knocking him. He is a great player. But he cannot really be the go to guy that screens are set for a la Mario Chalmers. He's too short. The problem is: there's no one else that can be either and that's why he's being asked to do it. Outside shooting of Reed and Teahan was a big let down. Teahan does not even look like the same shooter as last year. Very sad. I believe Teahan just saw the end of his season, maybe his career. Absense of outside shooting late in the game by Morningstar remains a mystery. I understand that he's the feed the post guy, but when you need treys this guy ought to be able to pot them as well as anyone else. Alas, it appears he shoots the J with the ball down at his forehead, so maybe he just can't get it off.Kieff defended well enough, but seemed out of sync otherwise.Marcus got 10 but he had to shoot 5 for 10 to do it; that's not efficient enough for a big.Little looked pretty good in street clothes at the end of the bench.Tough loss to a tough and good team.I forgot how much I despise Boeheim. He's a smug little fecal deposit who is forever aggrandizing himself and "Cuse." Onward.

November 26, 2008 at 12:48 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

ryanfox (anonymous) says...

I'm not worried. We looked really good in spurts (Tyshawn comes to mind) and we looked really young otherwise.Oh, and I'd like to thank Vitale for this gem: "They're cheering in Kansas City baby, and it's not for the Royals or the Chiefs!"If only he could have gotten in a dig at KU football, and maybe personally insulted my high school team, I could have had all my bases covered.

November 26, 2008 at 12:51 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

kansaspike (anonymous) says...

Foul at the end of the game and we win.Ask Calapari it it's a good strategy.

November 26, 2008 at 12:56 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

cusepsu (anonymous) says...

Funny to see people talking about horrible free throw shooting costing Kansas the game. Its not like Syracuse did particularly well in that category either. 55% for KU with 9 missed and 67% for cuse with 12 missed.All in all it was a great game. Kansas is gonna be a really good team. So is Syracuse. I'm glad we played you guys early. Unfortunately it wont count as a true road game for us which it was.by the way Hakim warrick block and now Paul Harris block....We own you guys :)

November 26, 2008 at 12:58 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

dmc8142 (anonymous) says...

Bill, the staff and the players have a lot of work to do. Just be patient and we will get back to where all want to be. Don't forget that when chalmers and the gang were freshmen we lost 8 games that year and lost in the first round of the tournament.

November 26, 2008 at 1:09 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

erichamm1211 (anonymous) says...

Observations from Baghdad!(1) Collins is trying to do way to much. He seems to speed himself up when things start going bad, instead of calming this team down. He is the best player on the floor, but most great players don't turn the ball over three times in a row.2) If this team is to do anything at all this year, they have to get Little healthy because Morningstar is and should be a walk-on with little playing time. I think this kid is as bad. If we rely on Morningstar as a starter, we are in trouble.3) Cole is a beast. He needs to be a little more angry when playing. Those freaking 1-2 footer that he is missing my trying to lay them, he needs to tomahawk the cr*p out of it.4) Tyshawn Taylor is the real deal. I like this kid! He has the skill and composure to run this team. He will be a beast by the time he leaves KU for the NBA.5) Morris twins are ok. I think they both seem scared to play under the basket. I know they both can step out, but we need some power on the inside with Cole. Good game for Marcus tonight.I will wake up at 3:00 am in the morning to watch this team. They are very talented and will only get better throughout the year. I wish I was home to get inside Allen Fieldhouse this year. Hopefully they will all be back next year so I can watch them in person.Peace

November 26, 2008 at 1:41 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

overseashawk (anonymous) says...

Hey, erichamm1211, Where do you live that you have to wake up at 3am to watch the game? I live in Ireland and have to do the same all the time. Well, it was three a.m. last night because it was a nine o'clock game but I have to wake up for 1am for the 7pm games. I didn't miss a game last year thanks to slingbox!!!

November 26, 2008 at 3:27 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Strikewso (anonymous) says...

Cusepsu, your coach is a whiner.

November 26, 2008 at 4:06 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Jimbo77 (anonymous) says...

Erichamm1211, You are absolutely correct. Cole needs someone other than himself to be aggressive below the post. Morris twins seem to be too passive and they look like deer in front of headlights. What surprises the heck out of me is that they miss their easy lay-ups, they can't hang on to the passed balls. How??? Aren't they suppose to be All-Americans??? I am very disappointed by their performance. Tyshawn Taylor is going to be an amazing player. He reminds me of Collins when he was a freshman.Morningstar, Reed, Teahan.... should stay on the bench. They are worthy of last minute victory extras. Why not bring Releford instead?I am sure Coach Self knows much better than I know though.

November 26, 2008 at 6:06 p.m. ( | suggest removal )