Speaking only as a KU basketball fan, that's a relief.

Penisgate is now over.

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It should also serve as a reminder to these young men to be judicious in the choice of who they deal with or hang with now and in their futures. A number of people who want to be associated with them have ulterior motives. They need to understand that they have targets on their backs.

And I'm glad that the DA did not find evidence enough to file charges.

RCJHKU

Ok at this point I have to think the guy with all the religious perspectives has to be joking. Right?

And yes this is great news. I still think coach needs to suspend him a game or 2 early for the irresponsible behavior of missing the court date. Just my opinion.

So the $75,000 judgement is thrown out?

No one will ever know what really happened in that elevator except the two individuals present. If Sherron did no wrong, this is a JOYOUS day of vindication for Sherron!!!! I hope he learns to be careful NOT to put himself in situations where things like this can even be construed. If in reality he got away with a crime my sympathies would go to the victim. Either way, Im sure the take-home message that Sherron gets from this is to be careful about his actions.

Now, let's move forward and focus on the upcoming season.

Incidentally, I wonder who the first idiot will be to ask Keegan to recant/apologize.

As to jross, when that happens, I hope they use the word 'recant.' It's just got so much more intense, medieval witch burning vibes.

What a relief. I'm just glad this never got national publicity. Then again I guess this is, unfortunately, tame (alleged) action by an athlete. I think I saw something like 3 rape cases being mentioned on ESPN just this week. Ugh.

He still has to pay the $75,000 judgement (unless he wins that too). This is criminal charges.

This is a case of he said/she said. I don't believe that Sherron did anything this lude to risk his reputation or career. However, he has to be ultra careful in the future to make sure that he is not in a situation where anyone can make false accusations of him. I feel bad that the players have to live with this kind of fear. This situation does make a good case that the all of the sports teams need their own living quarters separate from general student dorms.

Lord God,

I love to see myself published. For though I Envy those who have the skills to be published authors, blogs are the only avenue I have to satisfy my own needs for attention. Please give me any avenue to chastise and ridicule others for not claiming Jesus as their savior while I commit the sin of Pride myself. Go forth and win championships because no one will read my posts if my team goes 3-13 in the conference season. Amen and Go Jayhawks.

do you think they really could have fielded a jury without a single jayhawk fan? if the penis does not fit,, you must acquit.

Um, I think the "Cole Aldrich collecting underage pornography" shows that djkc28 is obviously joking. No need to get bent out of shape kids. And if you guys had actually READ the article, you would know that Sherron is not out of hot water yet. The $75,000 civil verdict has not been overturned. It is still under appeal. And, according to the article, the "burden of proof in a civil case is lower" than in a criminal case.

to answer ... no this doesnt not throw out the $75,000 civil judgement. Civil court and criminal courst carry two different proceedings and possibly two different judgements. a specific example is OJ - innocent in the criminal court, guilty in the civil and will be piss poor the rest of his life ... hence the armed robbery attempt lol

Possession of child pornography is no joking matter. Making such an allegation, even on an anonymous message board such as this, can do serious damage to a person's reputation. This is how rumors get started. The last thing Cole, or anybody needs is for some nimrod to make a comment like that, and other idiots to take the ball and run with it. I can imagine the Antler buffoons at Mizzou use posts like the ones from djkc28 as show-prep for their mindless insults towards our players.

"It should also serve as a reminder to these young men to be judicious in the choice of who they deal with or hang with now and in their futures."

And live as close to the ground floor as humanly possible.

What are they supposed to do, stop riding elevators? Some of these comments are surreal.

I'm just glad we're well on the way to getting this thing taken care of once and for all.

Hey WisconsinJayhawk, that's kinda funny. However, I look forward to the day when we can stop adding the suffix "-gate" to a word every time a scandal breaks out. Let's see, there's Monicagate, Rathergate, Spygate, the list goes on. Come on, Watergate was 35 years ago! Next time a big scandal comes along, let's do it differently!

And djkc28, I used to think you were a breath of fresh air, and said as much on one of these boards. But after your comments about Cole Aldrich, I finally see you for the noxious weed that you are. If your comments are unsubstantiated, the Aldrich family could sue the pants off of you. The family of Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford is doing the same thing to a Nebraska fan who said Bradford and a friend had been arrested for cocaine possession. You could have done well to learn from that ugly mess and restrained yourself in your postings.

Some Christians thought they are God or they can judge. If I had the right to judge, I would say they are NOT Christians.

And another thing, djkc28, you obviously don't know your Bible that well, or, if you are joking as some people here seem to think, you would have considered this little Proverb:

Like a madman who throws flaming darts and deadly arrows, so is the man who deceives his neighbor and says, "I was only joking!" (Proverbs 26.18-19 HCSB)

Those who say that this should teach Sherron and other athletes not to put themselves in situations like this are ridiculous. What situation did he put himself in? He rode an elevator which happened to also be occupied by a female. Are they supposed to take the stairs if they see a female on an elevator?

I don't want to be pain in the a** and repeat the obvious (that has already been stated) but the so called "funny" comments above about Cole Aldrich receiving under age porn is, well, stupid and a potentially tortious cause of action, e.g., defamation of character or libel, etc. Yes, I know, djkc28, you were attempting to be funny, but, let's face it, your comments were not only beyond the legal limits of acceptable speech they were really not that funny. Leave the funny comments to someone with more wit and class. Yeah, I know. I'm sure that I am supposed to just laugh it off and ignore a stupid post on a sport talk page, but the ignorance of the unsubstantiated allegation is reaches Antler territory in its hillbilliness. Yes, that is a word.

The case distilled down to an allegation that could never have been substantiated. This charge was outrageously unsupported, and the plaintiff had unrestricted access to the athlete's private areas, which would have put any possible "evidence" in doubt anyway. Why aren't there cameras in our athletes common areas? They are famous, and somewhat more at risk than most of us--stalkers, antlers, and thieves et al.

Anyway: how many 10-second elevator rides involving average people wound up in civil court last year--with events that could not be objectively corroborated?
I was a bit miffed with Keegans' and others tones on this thing. "We have to give both sides equal weight." "Unwitnessed frottage is the bane of athletics." I thought Sherron deserved a huge benefit of a doubt; incredible allegations require incredible evidence. QED.

I enjoyed the 40 - 12 run by the Jayhawks over the Tar Heels again this morning. Sherron and Cole were really big in that game. What a game. These guys will never completely understand how much joy they bring to an old guy like me. Come on guys, let's focus on next season. The only way to top this one is to do a back to back one when no one expects it. Collins and Aldrich proved they are ready to play at the highest college basketball level. They are just going to need some help. Collins has the ability to lead this team a long way next year. This year, though, defenses will be focused on him. He will do just fine.

"a specific example is OJ - innocent in the criminal court, guilty in the civil and will be piss poor the rest of his life ... hence the armed robbery attempt lol"

From what I can remember, OJ was getting a $250,000 a year pension from the NFL that couldn't be touched by the civil judgment, so I don't think he was exactly facing a lifetime of poverty. Who knows why he went through with the robbery attempt, other than maybe that he's completely off his rocker.

I can't wait for the day when djkc posts one of his inanities and it doesn't get a SINGLE response. Guys, the whole point of his "joke" is obviously to sit back in his weird, warped way and laugh at all the people who respond to his "posts" and comment on them. (And yes, I realize the irony of my making that point while commenting on him.) Please stop giving him the satisfaction by noticing that he exists. If we all ignored him long enough, maybe he would just go away.

Sparko, in fairness: Keegan's position that the accuser deserved respect is not incongruent with your position that Sherron Collins should be given the benefit of the doubt and esteemed as innocent (until proof of guilt).

Wow. As far as I can tell the conversations get weirdly heated and religious during the off-season. What's that about?

Also, did anyone else read the headline and for a split second think, "Why would Darrel Arthur file charges against Collins?"

The accuser deserved nothing but derision and scorn. Just another gold-digger looking for her 15. Collins should sue her, Keegan and their families into poverty.

I'm glad potential criminal charges are behind Sherron....NOW...are we ready for some FOOTBALL!!!!!!!

Also, did anyone else read the headline and for a split second think, "Why would Darrel Arthur file charges against Collins?"

That's funny, nj, I was thinking the same thing.

On another note, wouldn't it be wonderful if we could all be as certain of everything is soobawls is? Having no gray area would sure make life a lot simpler.

Sparko: "This charge was outrageously unsupported, and the plaintiff had unrestricted access to the athlete's private areas, which would have put any possible "evidence" in doubt anyway."

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Do you know something we don't Sparko?

What's with the "unrestricted access"?

Does he ride in elevators just wearing a towel, bathrobe or raincoat or something?

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BTW, wouldn't this type of thing be rather embarrassing for any male? A charge of indecent exposure dropped for "insufficient evidence"? Talk about giving the Antlers some ammo...

JBD,
Unrestricted access as in: She has access to the showers, where certain kinds of hair don't make it down the drain. Unrestricted Access as in: to his room. And everywhere in that building. I could set you up for ANYTHING with access to your personal spaces like this woman had access to Sherron's.

jross,
Again, you have great insight, and I always enjoy your posts; BUT Keegan did assume guilt on the party that was supposed to be "innocent until proven guilty" with his article. Perhaps you didn't catch it, but do you see how many different posters agree with me in that Keegan assumed the guilt of Collins?

And to all:
This is just the beginning of what Self, Collins, and I have said all along: He didn't do it.