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Thursday, December 4, 2008

KU can forget the Alamo

By Dugan Arnett

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While representatives of the Alamo Bowl have discussed the possibility of selecting the Kansas University football team during Sunday’s selection show, most of their attention is currently focused on fellow Big 12 schools Oklahoma State and Missouri, according to a bowl official.

“We had a meeting last Monday, and we talked about Kansas,” Rick Hill, vice president of marketing and communications for the Alamo Bowl, said Wednesday. “Right now, our focus was that we’re focusing on Oklahoma State and Missouri, barring anything wacky like coaches leaving, players getting hurt.”

The Alamo Bowl, held Dec. 29 in San Antonio, annually pits a Big 12 team against a team from the Big Ten, with a combined payout of $4.45 million in 2008. After the BCS bowls have been filled, the Alamo Bowl has either the third or fourth pick among Big 12 teams, depending on whether the Gator Bowl selects a team from the Big 12.

Currently, the Gator Bowl is required to pick a Big 12 team twice over a four-year period. In years it does so, the bowl is one spot ahead of the Alamo Bowl in the conference pecking order.

If the Alamo Bowl is not interested, the Insight Bowl, played Dec. 31 in Tempe, Ariz., will be KU’s likely bowl destination.

The Insight Bowl has the sixth pick in the Big 12 and has been following Kansas actively throughout the second half of the season.

And Tuesday’s comments from Hill don’t do anything to suggest the Jayhawks won’t be spending their New Year’s Eve in the desert.

“I think Kansas will probably be brought up Sunday,” Hill said. “But they’re not really on the board.”

Comments

dagger108 (anonymous) says...

Wasn't the same comment made last year about the Orange Bowl?

December 4, 2008 at 3:29 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

merg311 (anonymous) says...

I can't imagine Doogie writing this article!

Enjoy the game last Saturday? I did...40-37!

December 4, 2008 at 3:59 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

njjayhawk (anonymous) says...

Who cares about the Alamo Bowl - played in a dump, unamagitive football facility? Tempe, Ariz. is a far better destination in winter.

December 4, 2008 at 5:13 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Toto_the_great (anonymous) says...

What's the pay out for the Insight.com Bowl?

December 4, 2008 at 5:29 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Brock (anonymous) says...

Let's not rip the Alamodome too much. It has become one of my favorite basketball venues since last April. Ahhhhhh...the Riverwalk, the beer, the Jayhawk euphoria!

December 4, 2008 at 5:55 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

doubleJ25 (anonymous) says...

Good lord. This tool needs to go. There is no reason to write this article other than to say Missouri might get selected ahead of KU for a bowl.

December 4, 2008 at 5:57 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

HawkDigestCom (anonymous) says...

Who wrote the headline? I wouldn't say that it is 100% accurate.

December 4, 2008 at 6:10 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

LAJayhawk5 (anonymous) says...

njjayhawk is right. "i could give a sh*t" (-Roy) about the Alamo Bowl. Insight Bowl is the way to go. New Year's Eve game, great weather and a ROUT-able opponent from the Big 10? Sign us up.

MU and the Alamo Bowl can ............

............... SUCK IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

December 4, 2008 at 6:57 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

jahawkdave (anonymous) says...

Douchegan will you be traveling to SA to cover the tiggers bowl game for kusports.com? Keep up the craptastic work!

December 4, 2008 at 7:23 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

roundrockjhawk (anonymous) says...

we all want the Alamo Bowl so let's not pretend like we wouldn't take it in a heartbeat. Let's compare: Insight= NFL network, about 75% of high school recruits don't have this channel. Alamo Bowl= ESPN= most recognizable name in sports television. Recruiting hotbed for KU- Arizona= very few Texas = A boat load. Alamo Bowl>>>>>>>>>>>Insight Bowl. Taken care of NU when we should have we'd have a shot at Phoenix in a different bowl.

December 4, 2008 at 7:26 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Kirk (anonymous) says...

What's the reasoning on this? Why not consider KU? Don't we bring fans? Didn't we beat Missouri straight up?

What's the matter with Kansas?

December 4, 2008 at 7:29 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

mvjayhawk (anonymous) says...

if Moo gets routed on Saturday, then i think we're in. We'll see if OU has it in 'em or not...for another 60 point performance.

December 4, 2008 at 7:35 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

KUPROUD (anonymous) says...

I agree with roundrockjhawk, the Alamo offers better viewer and recruiting exposure. That's my first choice. But for the fans who attend, Arizona will be great.

Wherever we go, there's no downside to back to back bowl games, a classic win against MU, and continuing to ride a high from the Orange Bowl and NCAA Championship. RockChalk

December 4, 2008 at 7:42 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

KU (anonymous) says...

I think I read somewhere the Insight Bowl payout is around $1.2M. As roundrock said, for the sake of recruiting, the Alamo Bowl would be superior. As mvjayhawk said, if MU gets beat to a pulp like they did last year in the Big 12 championship, they won't look like such a great choice to the Alamo Bowl.....two straight losses.

December 4, 2008 at 7:52 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Jacobpaul81 (anonymous) says...

roundrockjhawk,

If we take care of Nebraska like we should have, no one would be talking bowls. We'd be talking, "how we going to beat oklahoma" and win our first big 12 championship. That's how important that loss was.

December 4, 2008 at 8:02 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

slantrox (anonymous) says...

njjayhawk, are you joking? The Alamo Dome isn't a dump, in fact it was REALLY good to KU last April in case you don't recall. Have you ever been to San Antonio? What a great city and the perfect host for all large events!!!!!!!!!!!

December 4, 2008 at 8:23 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Toto_the_great (anonymous) says...

Any correlation/connection (whatever you want to call it) with bowl officials leaning towards us because we won the Nat'l Championship (e.g., realizing SA treated us well and that our fans will travel)?

December 4, 2008 at 8:42 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Jimmy_Dean (Alan Halvorsen) says...

Don't forget about clever Lew Perkins in all of this.

December 4, 2008 at 9:20 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

justanotherfan (anonymous) says...

I think the Alamo bowl would prefer OSU to Missouri anyway. Here's my guesses on Big XII bowls.

If OU wins the conference

Oklahoma - National Title Game
Texas - Fiesta
Missouri - Gator
Texas Tech - Cotton
Oklahoma State - Alamo
Kansas - Insight.com
Nebraska - Houston

If MU wins
Missouri - Fiesta
Texas - Sugar (assuming Texas doesn't jump to #2 in BCS)
Oklahoma - Cotton
Texas Tech - Gator
Oklahoma State - Alamo
Kansas - Insight.com
Nebraska - Houston

Basically, any way you slice it, the BCS will take two Big XII teams. The Gator bowl is going to either take Missouri or Texas Tech if they can get them. The Cotton bowl will take a South team. The only way KU gets in the Alamo bowl is if they skip OSU.

If the Gator bowl declines to take a Big XII team (unlikely since so many Big XII teams are highly ranked), KU may end up in Houston or the Independence Bowl (depending on whether they flip flop KU and NU).

December 4, 2008 at 9:21 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhawkinatl (anonymous) says...

For selfish reasons, I'd rather hang out in the desert than S.A.

December 4, 2008 at 9:40 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

priceiswright (anonymous) says...

Just when you think your articles can't get any more worthless dugie you grace us with this garbage. I don't think just you should be fired for the entire season worth of trash you have printed, whoever hired you should be fired as well.

scoreboard!!!

December 4, 2008 at 9:45 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

HowMuchRice (anonymous) says...

justanotherfan--- Good thing you're not writing articles for the LJW. You completely forgot about the Holiday Bowl. Nice work.

December 4, 2008 at 9:53 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Code_2008 (anonymous) says...

Why would Nebraska be below us? If anything, they've got Flordia in their Sights for the Gator Bowl. Justanotherfan, do you even read the sports news?

If OU loses, that's it, we have Insight.

If OU wins, but by a small victory, we have Insight.

If OU murders the kitties, then we have a chance... so hope for a blowout and pray that we can get some more magic out of San Antonio!

As for the fans... isn't that the reason why the Orange Bowl selected us last year (they can say the one-loss blah, blah crap, but in reality, its about the fan revenue).

Texas and OU are taking the BCS/NC spots (Unless Mizzou somehow crashes the party), OSU/Tech will sweep Cotton and Holiday, NU has the Gator pretty much locked up... so it will come down to Mizzou/KU for fighting for the Alamo/Insight...

December 4, 2008 at 10:14 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Jayhawk86 (anonymous) says...

I think the reason that this article was written is because of all the talk about the possibility of KU going to the Alamo. I think it is nice that Dugan laid out the thoughts of the Alamo Bowl people.

I know that I have had numerous texts and emails from people talking about the fact that KU was being mentioned for the Alamo bowl on the local radio stations. With that being the case, isn't it expected that the beat reporter for KU football look into it? He just can't win. If he doesn't report it, then all of you critics would be complaining that he didn't get any info on the Alamo bowl. Good grief!

Why can't you just take in the info? Why do you feel the need to complain about getting information. Regardless of if you like the info or not. At least you are getting it.

December 4, 2008 at 10:50 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

AzHawk97 (anonymous) says...

Does the Alamo Bowl have a basement?

I heard Mizzou's lost season was located there.

December 4, 2008 at 10:58 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Jaydub (anonymous) says...

I gambled and booked tickets to Tempe while flights are still cheap. Was that a bad move? I wouldn’t mind canceling for the Alamo.

December 4, 2008 at 1:40 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Jaminrawk (anonymous) says...

Are they aware that Chase Daniel eats his own boogers and is .500 versus Todd Reesing?

Nice Pee Wee reference there, AzHawk97.

December 4, 2008 at 1:41 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

rolo2383 (anonymous) says...

I heard MU was going to play Oregon in the Holiday Bowl. I hope that happens b/c Oregon will win that game giving booger mitts Daniel three straight losses to end his college career.

December 4, 2008 at 2:51 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

rolo2383 (anonymous) says...

Just heard we are losing our D-Line coach to KState. Don't know if it's true but it came from a source of mine who pretends like they know everything.

December 4, 2008 at 3:14 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

fabio (anonymous) says...

rolo2383-Is that a problem? Did you see our D-Line this year?

December 4, 2008 at 3:47 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

rolo2383 (anonymous) says...

Not at all. I made that comment myself. He didn't do anything for us anyway. There are plenty of D-Line coaches out there.

December 4, 2008 at 4:03 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Yahweh (anonymous) says...

You guys shouldn't dump on a beat writer for writing the story he's assigned to write. It's called a news cycle and it can be slow. I would prefer to be more informed than necessary than the alternative.

December 4, 2008 at 4:58 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

lance1jhawk (anonymous) says...

San Antonio.... Hmmmm.... We've been there and done that! Thanks 2008 National Championship. I didn't want to go there again anway!

December 4, 2008 at 6:56 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

lance1jhawk (anonymous) says...

Oh and by the way thanks for the article Dugan.

December 4, 2008 at 7:02 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

eastTXjayhawk (anonymous) says...

i figured forgetting the Holiday Bowl would be right up the LJW's alley ;-)

December 4, 2008 at 7:05 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

eastTXjayhawk (anonymous) says...

roundrock, preferring the Alamo Bowl wouldn't have anything to do with your current proximity to San Antonio would it? ;-)

i'm all for it, much closer than Tempe!

December 4, 2008 at 7:09 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

rasta_meta (anonymous) says...

Don't forget the CEO and co-founder of insight.com is a KU grad.

December 4, 2008 at 9:08 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

rasta_meta (anonymous) says...

Actually, he might not be CEO anymore but rather Chairman of the Board.

December 4, 2008 at 9:10 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

rockchalkin54 (anonymous) says...

I would much rather have the Jayhawks go to the Alamo Bowl because I don't have NFL Network. It would be easier to watch the game if it were on ESPN ...

December 4, 2008 at 10:58 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jhawkjdub (anonymous) says...

The Insight Bowl would seem sooooooo much more appealing if it wasn't on the NFL Network. It just bugs the heck out of me that all the Bowls except 2 are on a major network, and the Big 12 has tie-ins to both of those Bowls (Insight and Texas). I realize the Big 12 won't send a team to the Texas Bowl this year, but they really need to get this fixed. What's 2 more bowls ESPN? Pick them up please!

December 4, 2008 at 11:05 p.m. ( | suggest removal )