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Wednesday, December 3, 2008

Lesson learned

Markieff Morris reflects on ejection

Kansas University freshman Markieff Morris takes an elbow from Kent State’s Chris Singletary during Monday’s game at Allen Fieldhouse. After retaliating, Morris was ejected from the game.

Kansas University freshman Markieff Morris takes an elbow from Kent State’s Chris Singletary during Monday’s game at Allen Fieldhouse. After retaliating, Morris was ejected from the game.

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Markieff Morris was not overly dejected after getting ejected from Kansas University’s 87-60 rout of Kent State on Monday night in Allen Fieldhouse.

The refs at least let KU’s freshman forward sit on the bench with his teammates — giving him the opportunity to play the role of cheerleader the final 15 minutes.

“Even though I was kicked out of the game, I was still with my team,” Morris said Tuesday, reflecting on his penalty for retaliating for a forearm shiver to the face delivered from Kent State’s Chris Singletary while the two chased a loose ball.

“I wasn’t down. I just wish I was out there finishing the game out.”

Morris described the turn of events that led to him getting booted from an organized game for the first time in his life.

“I was going for a jump ball, trying to get the jump ball,” Morris said. “Right after they (refs) called ‘jump ball,’ he threw an elbow. I pushed back once he threw the elbow.

“I was surprised he did it,” Morris added of Singletary making contact. “It had been a tough game the whole game. Everybody was going at it. We were just playing basketball. When he did it, it surprised me. My mind took over and retaliated.”

Morris believes he’s learned a valuable lesson heading into today’s 7 p.m. home contest against New Mexico State.

“I shouldn’t have retaliated. I should have let the ref check it out on the monitor, but coach always says don’t back down from anybody,” Morris said. “The guy just hit me for no good reason.

“Coach (Bill Self) yelled at me a couple times. He told me to keep my head and I can’t retaliate like that. I apologized to my team and my coaches for making that decision.”

Replays clearly show Singletary making contact with Morris, but Morris’ response is largely undetected.

“I’m not down on him for retaliating. I didn’t see any retaliation personally. I saw him act like he was going to retaliate but I didn’t see anything ever actually happen,” said Self, who watched KU assistant coach Danny Manning direct Morris back to the bench after an agitated Morris picked himself off the court and glared in the direction of Singletary.

“Guys have to be smart enough to know that the second guy usually gets caught,” Self added. “On things like that, retaliation should be in the course of play — by your play — not by thinking the ‘man’ thing to do is create a fight or anything like that. There’s nothing manly about that. I mean, just show some toughness and refrain from doing it and then whip ’em on the court. During the course of play, there’s opportunities to set hard screens and things like that.”

Morris doesn’t face a one-game suspension tonight because, though his foul was deemed flagrant, it wasn’t part of a fight.

“Coach talked to us about it right after the game. He was telling us anytime anybody does anything to you, you’ve got to keep your head because it could have been a suspension the next game. We don’t need to lose anybody,” said KU freshman power forward Quintrell Thomas. He scored four points and grabbed three boards in nine minutes, getting some additional second-half playing time with Morris out.

“I mean every single game there’s some elbows thrown. You’ve got to choose if you get somebody back,” Thomas added. “If you let it go, obviously it’ll continue. You’ve got to set a tone and let everybody know (you won’t get shoved around).”

Thomas said he was roughed up a bit playing for St. Patrick High School in Elizabeth, N.J.

“The way I see it is you play at Kansas. Just like in high school if you play at any school that’s big and supposed to win the game, any team below you will come in with the mindset, ‘All right, we’re going to try to beat ’em up, try to take them out of their mindset,’’’ Thomas noted.

The bottom line is Morris is extra enthused to get back on the court tonight against 2-2 New Mexico State.

“It’s another tough game, but we’ll try to pull this one out, too,” Morris said. “It’s hard,” he added of playing two games in three nights, “but we’ll work hard to get through it.”

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njjayhawk (anonymous) says...

Not much of a story here, Gary. In fact, no story at all. Need to print something more insightful than this nonsense.

December 3, 2008 at 5:37 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Timmay97 (anonymous) says...

It's hard for me to be upset with Markieff after watching the replay. Everyone saw what happened and I think each and every one of us would probably have reacted the same way. You suddenly get in defense mode. I didn't think Markieff did anything to warrant getting ejected. The refs should have just brought the two of them together and said "no more!"You could see that game was getting chippy in the second half. I like the toughness of our team. They don't back down at all! Come March, we will be a scary team to play. These guys will have matured beyond belief and it just makes for some fun and exciting basketball come postseason.

December 3, 2008 at 7:05 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

yates33333 (anonymous) says...

On the dunk Bill Self is too hard on himself. No one at that point of a game, who is coaching a team, could pay that close attention to how much time was left after a free throw and following the other team not shooting before the 35 seconds ran out. Relax. Hire Jaybate to keep track. He is the most up-to-date on KU game details that I have ever witnessed.

December 3, 2008 at 7:23 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Rivethead (anonymous) says...

Markieff should have just waited until after the game......and then pulled out his Airsoft for retaliation. I hear he's a good shot.

December 3, 2008 at 7:26 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

ryanfox (anonymous) says...

I may be in the minority, but I definitely saw Singletary throw an elbow, and I definitely saw Morris retaliate. They should both have been ejected. Especially early in the season, learn those lessons before the games get more meaningful.

December 3, 2008 at 7:29 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

omng392 (anonymous) says...

I DVR the game... I played it back and I agree it was 50/50 both guys should either get ejected or neither guy. But I for one, like to see our baby jays toughing up. Don't get me wrong, fighting has no place in basketball, but as freshman, there going to give up 10 - 20 lbs of muslce to alot of more mature older players and there going to have to learn that the big 12 isn't high school.

December 3, 2008 at 7:49 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

jchief40 (anonymous) says...

njjayhawk, what's your prob? I found it interesting to hear everyone's position on the matter.

December 3, 2008 at 8:01 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

CBaller13 (anonymous) says...

Markieff, you should pack your bb gun in your warmups and shoot the cat the next time you get a bow to the face,

December 3, 2008 at 8:28 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

speedy (anonymous) says...

true he should not have hit back. because he got caught. BUT sometimes things MUST be taken care of if the refs do not !. way back when. back in the 60,s there were the elison bros, nolin and butch,?, playing for KU. against mizzou. as the ball was passed around the top of the circle a couple of times the younger bro. passed the ball on. then he turned and walked back slowly, in full view of everyone, centercourt, and decked the mizzou player knocking him down. of course he was ejected. but racial?? remarks are just as hard to accept as an elbow. at least the mizzou coach pulled his player out of the game.

December 3, 2008 at 9:11 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

JayCeph (anonymous) says...

Does anyone remember a little-watched game back in April between KU and some team from the south... Memphis I think? They had a player on their team that was a brutish thug by the name of Joey Dorsey. He was pounding on any player that had a Jayhawk on their uni and never got reprimanded by the refs.There was one time in particular when he was thuggin' up against both Cole and DJax. After a particularly bruising play, he chest thumped against DJax, stood in his way, blocked his path to the other end of the court and more...Instead of getting all put off and bent out of shape, DJax just kept looking past Joey D, staring down at the other end of the court at his other players and just (get this) smiled. He smiled bigger and brighter with each thuggie move taken by that impish Memphis player.I remember swelling with pride as I watched a Jayhawk rise above the fray and show a lot of character by NOT letting the opposition goad him into getting in trouble.That was the sweetest revenge, after the game was over, and looking at the dejected face of that small-minded buffoon on Memphis' squad as he looked over at the celebrating DJax... smiling brighter than ever.Morris will get there too.

December 3, 2008 at 9:31 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

blk99stang (anonymous) says...

Jayceph, thats awesome! Haha Darnell- what a great kid! Hopefully with Kief it only takes once, which i believe it will. Let your game speak. It is much more (at least to me) satisfying to celebrate a victory when your opponent like Dorsey was being a thug knowing that you handled yourself right

December 3, 2008 at 9:59 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

truefan (anonymous) says...

Actually I thought it was a good story. I didn't get the chance to watch the game so I had no idea that anyone was ejected. Good to hear he just got screwed and didn't actually hit Singletary back.

December 3, 2008 at 10:24 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

jross1972 (Joe Ross) says...

Jayceph...Very well said. The reason why Darnell and Cole were able to let those things go was because they were classy guys. Markieff is the SAME twin who consciously shot someone with a BB gun. With all of his will and intent behind him. Yes, i know that the elbow was thrown at him, I just think a kid who will shoot someone with an air rifle is more prone to engage in a broohaha when one is instigated. Fact is that right now, Markieff does not have the same outlook on things that his predecessors have. It's all about the mindset. I think there's hope for Markieff, but he needs more time to be socialized into what Kansas basketball is all about. I think that's one of the big advantages in coming to play here. Not only do kids learn the best of basketball. They learn the best of life.Now having said all that, the DEVIL in me took joy in having Jeff Graves here as an enforcer/intimidator. I remember a couple of staredowns Jeff gave that put the brakes on situations without altercation. Im trying to decide whether or not Im a hypocrit.

December 3, 2008 at 10:45 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Kleave (anonymous) says...

If KUSports.com didn't post these articles, what would we read to waste time at work? Nothing...and that's unacceptable. Yay for this article!

December 3, 2008 at 10:50 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

JayCeph (anonymous) says...

Yeah, why write about the sport we seem to like a lot? Why not just cancel the whole of idea of basketball... and the internet too? That way, we don't HAVE to read things that might interest people.Honestly, the things people get bent about. Try getting pissed off at something more pertinent and germane... like anything that has to do with Oklahoma, the smell of milky breath or why people say 'They could care less' when they really mean they "couldn't" care less.You feigned ambivalence betrays you... for if you truly didn't care, you wouldn't comment.

December 3, 2008 at 11:05 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

jross1972 (Joe Ross) says...

njjayhawk and kleave....write your own blog

December 3, 2008 at 11:16 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

kvskubball (anonymous) says...

This is one of the things that I think makes Cole so special. He has such a calm exterior. He's there to play ball. When he was bumped really hard last year (See JayCeph above) in the tournament, he just stood there for a second till the other player cleared out and then went to the other end to get back to work. He gets banged-on hard each game. One of the Kent State players, who was about 6'5" (I think it was #3), came into him with a shoulder and elbow to create a little space to get his shot off. Because he was so much shorter than Cole, it was easy to be physical and not get it called. As a tall player you have to realize that shorter players often get away with these kind of plays. Its just the way it is and you have to play through it, and when you get the chance, block the ball really hard or set a great screen or pick, but do it cleanly in the flow of the game.Noone likes to be thugged, but if you let it affect your play, the thug wins. There will be a lot of teams that try to punk our young team. The Morris twins seem to have short fuses, they (And all of the other young players) need to learn that not everyone is going to play nice and they need to keep their cool. Tell it to your teammates, your coach, and the refs but don't retaliate...

December 3, 2008 at 11:24 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

mbmerriman (anonymous) says...

njjayhawkwould you shut up, bedore is the best writer at the LJW, he is just doing his job and writing an article, there arent sports stories flying of the presses in lawrence anyway. get off his back

December 3, 2008 at 11:35 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

kvskubball (anonymous) says...

Oh, this same kind of incident happened last night in a game between Miami (Fl) and Ohio State. A freshman (Crater) on OSU swiped at McClinton (Miami's best player and a senior). McClinton retaliated - swiped back, harder, and made some contact. McClinton was ejected. Miami, which had been killing OSU lost the ballgame, at least partially because they were down two guards, McClinton and another player that was being disciplined for the game. McClinton let the thug win and Miami lost!!!Johnny Flynn did it a little differently, but still got under Sheron's skin...guess who lost the game?Our team needs to develop the business-like attitude that last year's team had. It needs to be a point of emphasis with two incidents already this year. If other teams notice that it works, they will send in a freshman or a scrub or a freshman scrub and try to get someone out of the game. Incidents have happened to Sheron, and Mk Morris, let's learn from it guys!!!

December 3, 2008 at 11:37 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

ku_law (anonymous) says...

Anyone have a link to the video/clip of the incident leading to his ejection?

December 3, 2008 at 11:47 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

JayViking (anonymous) says...

ryanfox and JayCeph hit it on the head.I am personally very embarrassed by both twins' demeanor. That is not how we play ball here at Kansas. If you want to play like that, go to Memphis.Darnell Jackson was an incredible role model to lose.

December 3, 2008 at 11:52 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

jbrownjib (anonymous) says...

I like the hard screen. That way all the fans and team can enjoy the suttle moment with satisfaction of a job well done. The bb gun would be too remote for everyone to be amused.

December 3, 2008 at 12:11 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

rawkhawk (anonymous) says...

I think this a relevant story in how our freshman need to mature and to help the team be more aggressive. I've always appreciated the team-oriented approach to the KU program. Markieff (and the team) learned a valuable lesson in the early season about the difference between productive and destructive behavior on the court. Good luck tonight 'Hawks!

December 3, 2008 at 12:17 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

fabio (anonymous) says...

Coach better get these kids under control. Class is more important than trophies.

December 3, 2008 at 12:31 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Strikewso (anonymous) says...

njjayhawk, how is this not newsworthy? I don't remember a KU player ever being ejected, so certainly this incident is worth some discussion. I don't think the actual scuffle was much, but these kinds of things do need to be nipped in the bud. These young players are raw and impressionable and they need to learn what KU basketball is all about. This year is all about learning lessons, and this even is certainly one of them.

December 3, 2008 at 12:46 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jakejayhawk (anonymous) says...

Strikewso, don't know your age, but here is a little incident that some will remember.http://www2.kusports.com/news/1988/mar/03/surging_kansas_enjoys_rare_romp_cu_8564/If that link doesn't work, search kusports.com with "manning ejection".It looked like a painful shot from the Kent State player. After all we heard last week about getting tough, is there any wonder Markieff took the action he did? Besides getting yelled at by coach, I wouldn't be at all surprised if he also didn't get a pat on the butt for showing toughness.Those who have opined about the best reaction is to do it in the game are right. There are ways to get it done. And it looks like this is a great lesson for the young players. If it doesn't kill you it makes you stronger...

December 3, 2008 at 2:16 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

justanotherfan (anonymous) says...

I was thinking about the McClinton incident while I read this as well. It seems like the referees are a lot quicker with the ejection this year than they have been in years past. Before, the McClinton thing would have drawn a technical and some stern words from the stripes. The fact that he was ejected after they reviewed the replay of the incident says to me that the NCAA has put out a mandate this year to eject for any type of altercation. I bet you see a few more quick ejections this year in non-con games. I think they are trying to send a message.

December 3, 2008 at 4:34 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Keckadek (anonymous) says...

Personally i think it's always best to keep you cool. if someone gets rough or gets in your face just let your playing speak for you and get that 'W.' but that's easier said then done so maybe people need a couple of tries before they get it down.Markieff is a freshman so there is no reason to believe he wont correct this as he matures. Sherron is a starer for this first time in his college carreer plus he's widely acknowledged as being 'the man' on our team. That's pressure. Sure Johnny Flynn got under his skin but he can learn from that and be better off for it.RCJH!!!!

December 3, 2008 at 4:43 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

klong (anonymous) says...

I don't have a problem with it at all. I don't want them to fight every game, but in a strange way it shows toughness in this team. I have to say, what little I have got to see of them, they seem to be catching on to Selfs tough minded game. I think it took the last group a little longer to do so.

December 3, 2008 at 4:56 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

theno1kufan (anonymous) says...

the next time something like this happens self just needs to sit the player down for the rest of the game (ie hackman in hoosiers) and say "thats not how we play, buck up and be the bigger man"

December 3, 2008 at 5:18 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

eku757 (anonymous) says...

Is there anyway to pick up tonights game via internet or any other way? I live in N. Dallas. Thanks for any info.

December 3, 2008 at 5:26 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Strikewso (anonymous) says...

Jakejayhawk, thanks for the info. I was in high school in Japan in 1988 so had limited KU coverage, especially with no internet. First ejection in 20 years, not bad. A lot has changed since then.

December 3, 2008 at 5:28 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Strikewso (anonymous) says...

That was an interesting link, it mentioned Mike Mussaci and his acacemic woes. He wasn't even on the team when the won it all, what a regret that must be. Didn't he die a few years back or am I thinking of another guy from that era?

December 3, 2008 at 6:01 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

dagger108 (anonymous) says...

The best part of the story in my opinion is the glimpse into the lockerroom/Coach Self's teaching the guys how to play strong, and differentiating it from the tough/macho facade that is created on the streets and TV.It reminds me of this time of year when I was running (long distance) in HS. Coach was a former all-american and national champion, so he knew about elite competition - hmmm, sort of like Self, Manning, ... The team especially initially were just a bunch of wide eyed kids. He would also go on training runs with us, and start these hand gestures (that I can't adequately describe) and proclaim, "Time to sharpen the elbows gentlemen. It's indoor season." There's a lot less space on an indoor track vs. outdoor or cross country, so it is important to know how to defend your position. Throwing a punch would get you ejected from a race as easily as from a BB game, but there is plenty of bodily contact that can go unnoticed by race officials and still be very effective.This freshmen class has shown tremendous aptitude for learning, and sometimes even from their transgressions. The important thing is they are learning, and it is exciting to see them already progressing well beyond their years.Rock Chalk

December 3, 2008 at 6:02 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

cklarock (anonymous) says...

The only reason coach can say he didn't see any retaliation is that Markieff's punch missed! I had a good angle to see it, and thought at the time that he should have been ejected, and I guess he was. He'll learn, and in time he'll get his revenge exactly like Coach is suggesting he do -- through hard, physical, legal play.As a person who has "retaliated" in the past, I'll let all the "classy" posters here sling that first stone.

December 3, 2008 at 10:15 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

ralster (anonymous) says...

Best part of the story was the little glimpse of Bill Self's toughness in his comment "there's 'opportunities' to set HARD screens later"...Gotta love that! Hey, Im not worried about the Twins or Cole or Quintrell--its a mans world in the paint & they are figuring it out week by week.

December 4, 2008 at 9:20 p.m. ( | suggest removal )