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Aggies lost last game
Tonight’s KU foe — New Mexico State — fell to Long Beach State, 82-77, on Sunday.
The Aggies (2-2) were without junior guard Jonathan Gibson and freshman center Chris Gabriel, who were suspended by coach Marvin Menzies for missing practice. Gibson is the only returning starter off last year’s 21-14 team, which went 12-4 in the Western Athletic Conference.
“Both missed practice and that was their punishment,” Menzies told the Las Cruces Sun-News. “They let their teammates down by not handling their business. I know nobody feels worse about it than they do.”
The Sun-News indicated both are likely to play in today’s 7 p.m. tip in Allen Fieldhouse.
Even without the duo, the Aggies led Long Beach by five points with just under two minutes remaining. N.M. State has also lost at Southern Cal, 70-63, and defeated UC Riverside (79-52) and Pepperdine (90-66) at home.
“They are very athletic, big on the wings,” KU coach Bill Self said. “The Long Beach State game was a one-possession game late without two of their best players. They are very capable, very athletic.”
Coach Menzies’ first New Mexico State team suffered a triple overtime loss to Boise State in the finals of the 2008 WAC Tournament. The 2008-09 Aggies were hit hard by the early-September transfer of standout Herb Pope to Seton Hall.
Aggies at a glance
New Mexico State averages 76.5 points per game off 48.1 percent shooting while allowing 68.5 points. The Aggies force 18.3 turnovers. ... Sophomore guard Jahmar Young averages a team-leading 18.0 ppg. He’s made a team-best 10 threes. Freshman forward Troy Gillenwater averages 15.5 ppg. Gibson averages 15.3 ppg. Sophomore forward Wendell McKines averages 7.8 rebounds per game.
Inside misses
KU freshman Tyshawn Taylor, who drew praise for his solid defensive work on Kent State’s Al Fisher in Monday’s 87-60 victory, still can’t believe he missed nine of 14 shots. Most of the misses were on layups. Taylor also missed a first-half dunk try.
“I started to get frustrated toward the end because I kept getting to the bucket, kept getting wide open layups. I just couldn’t buy one,” Taylor said. “I was like, ‘dang,’ but I looked over to the bench and coach kept telling me to keep shooting.”
Of his missed dunk, Taylor said: “I feel my legs are not with me as much as they used to be. If that was last year, I would have gotten up a little bit higher. I feel I’ve got to get more bounce. I’ve got to get my bounce back.”
He’s getting used to the rigors of college ball.
“We practice every day. We weightlift before practice sometimes and we play a lot. It definitely is wearing on me,” he said. “It wasn’t like that in high school. I’ve just got to get used to that.”
Frosh Quintrell Thomas knows what Taylor is talking about.
“It’s weird. When I first came to college I was expecting to dunk everything because that’s what I did in high school,” Thomas said. “After the first couple workouts I started losing it and then I guess you lose the mentality of ‘I’ve got to dunk everything,’ because your legs are always tired. Most of us have our legs back now, but because you stopped (dunking) so long ago, I guess it doesn’t come as easy anymore.”
Self’s thoughts
Self on KU’s barrage of inside misses: “The offense isn’t crisp but we are somewhat efficient considering how many missed bunnies we have. This team misses more layups than any team of all time.”
Self was asked about the freshmen maybe having tired legs.
“I think everybody goes through periods of time they don’t have their legs as much, (but) don’t read into any of that stuff those guys tell you,” he said with a laugh, as always, entertained at some things the players say in interviews.
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Comments
JNHawks (anonymous) says...
Maybe a dunking contest for inspiration?
December 3, 2008 at 8:42 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
crooner (anonymous) says...
Maybe no dunking for the guards under 6'4.Seriously, we all remember Sherron's last-second dunk in the McDonald's All-Star game, right? All of our guards can get up, but in the game, we need to stick with what works 10 times out of 10.It's crazy, but our team is totally backward. We actually have to order our bigmen TO dunk, and tell our guards NOT to dunk! :p
December 3, 2008 at 8:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nocaljayhawk (anonymous) says...
I'd swear I recall Mr. Chalmers going through a somewhat similar "phase" as a frosh...he'd swipe it, drive it in, and then miss a few layups/dunks...personally, I advocate guys who can dunk it trying to throw it down whenever possible...more emphatic (remember how cool it was when, say Aaron Miles jammed one at six feet tall?) and seemingly the highest-percentage shot. Easy for this nearly middle-aged white dude to say.
December 3, 2008 at 9:14 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Jaminrawk (anonymous) says...
Remember Chalmer's put back last year? That was amazing.
December 3, 2008 at 10:51 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
funkitect (anonymous) says...
yeah, i didn't realize he had it in him! i did notice over the year how he was getting up a lot more than in his earlier days... that one really surprised me though.
December 3, 2008 at 11:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
chuckberry32 (anonymous) says...
"this team misses more layups than any team of all time.”now that's just funny.on to a more serious problem: Do I A) watch tonight's game on espn360 orB) accept the invitation from my new coworkers to go to the KY game tonight?Help, I don't know what to do...
December 3, 2008 at 11:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
kustrong (anonymous) says...
chuckberry32, this is a simple one. the answer is, you watch the game on espn360. if you don't, you leave me no choice but to question your fanhood. Rock Chalk
December 3, 2008 at 12:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Strikewso (anonymous) says...
These guys got really tired late in the Syracuse game. I'm not worried about that, it comes with the territory when you have a lot of freshmen. Every game it's another issue with these guys, but they learn quickly. I expect no layups missed in the next game, but we'll have issues with free throws or turnovers or something new.
December 3, 2008 at 12:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jaybate (anonymous) says...
Just as Self told Brady against Coppin to shoot every chance he got, he needs to tell the bigs to dunk every chance they get against NMSU. Frankly, he needs to give the guy with the most dunks a day off from wind sprints.We will see backboards shattering all over the place with that kind of incentive. :-)
December 3, 2008 at 1:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jaybate (anonymous) says...
Post Script: We need a dunkitect.
December 3, 2008 at 1:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jayhawkerjoel (anonymous) says...
The Freshman wall. These guys are probably in the best cardio shape of their lives, but the legs are tired. Anyone else notice that the Morris twins also seem to have difficulty dunking at 6' 8" & 6' 9"?
December 3, 2008 at 2:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
chuckberry32 (anonymous) says...
Ok you win kustrong. To hell with the new job, I'm watching the KU game, who wants to watch KY (UK gets to confusing) beat up on Lamar anyway. It's amazing to me how ignorant some people are around here about basketball history. All they talk about is how KY is the god of basketball and Rupp the patron saint. I've had to do quite a bit of educating down here. Just a few minutes ago someone was trying to give me a lecture about how Rupp Arena is the greatest place to play...Of course this particular person doesn't even know where Allen Fieldhouse is. All I can do is shake my head.
December 3, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
chuckberry32 (anonymous) says...
off topic:did anyone else notice that in the show Heroes they went to Lawrence KS only to show a house with a cornfield out front and big mountains in the background. tisk tisk.
December 3, 2008 at 3:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Yahweh (anonymous) says...
Tell 'em, Chuck!!
December 3, 2008 at 3:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
HaiL2ThAjHaWkX (anonymous) says...
chuckberry i saw that episode to. i got all excited but that was quickly shattered by the cornfields n all
December 3, 2008 at 3:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
thomc6 (anonymous) says...
How about Dodge City in all the old "Gunsmoke" episodes? Loved the mountains in the background and the dusty, dry western motif.
December 3, 2008 at 5:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
dagger108 (anonymous) says...
This may be too late on this string, but I am stoked on the west coast. Someone posted a link to www.justin.tv/cbb2k early in the season, and I've used it to watch games that I wouldn't otherwise have been able to see w/o going to the bar. That use to be fine, but with an 11 mo daughter, I'm a lot more motivated to stay home now.Unfortunately, tonight's game wasn't on the link above - so I decided to look thru the rest of the site. They have a truck load of channels, including jayhawktv! Rock Chalk. For some reason, I wasn't getting sound tonight, and the feed was choppier than other times, but still a huge treat to realize that the channel is available streaming! http://www.justin.tv/jayhawktv
December 3, 2008 at 9:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )