Saturday, October 6, 2007

Final, KU wins 30-24

KU looks for its first win in Manhattan since 1989


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2007 KU-KSU Football

From the Associated Press

MANHATTAN, Kan. (AP) -- The question was: How good is unbeaten Kansas, with its colossal stats compiled against four cupcakes?

The answer: Good enough to become the first Kansas team in 18 years to win in the Little Apple.

Todd Reesing threw for 267 yards and three touchdowns to lead the Jayhawks to a 30-24 victory Saturday over No. 24 Kansas State, a week after the Wildcats won at Texas.

"We're the first Kansas team to win here since 1989," Reesing said. "So that in itself should prove to anyone who was doubting us before the game that we are for real."

Kansas (5-0, 1-0 Big 12) overcame some potentially ruinous mistakes and struck for a quick TD just 65 seconds after giving up the lead in the fourth quarter. With their first road win over a ranked team since 1995, they've started a season 5-0 for just the third time in 39 years .

"This was a great team effort," Kansas coach Mark Mangino said. "The kids hung together on the sideline, the coaches stayed calm, we stayed with the game plan and good things happened."

Reesing, who had thrown for 1,119 yards and 11 touchdowns in his first four games, hit Dexton Fields with a 30-yard scoring pass for a 27-24 lead with 6:27 left in the game.

The Wildcats (3-2, 1-1) had capitalized on Fields' mistake and taken the lead on a halfback option pass about a minute earlier.

Minutes after Kansas took the lead, Kendrick Harper, who missed the first four games with an injury, intercepted Josh Freeman's pass on the 26 and Scott Webb converted it into a 24-yard field goal with 2:21 remaining.

Freeman, Kansas State's 6-foot-6 sophomore, outgained the 5-foor-9 Reesing, hitting 31 of 48 passes for a career-high 305 yards and one TD. But he was also intercepted three times, the last by Aqib Talib, Kansas' two-way star, with 1:12 to play.

"We had an opportunity to win the game at the end with a two-minute drive. We did not do so," Kansas State coach Ron Prince said. "That's one of those situations where you're the head football coach and that's your responsibility, so that's my deal, and we should've been able to perform in that situation and we did not."

Talib, beaten on a 68-yard touchdown pass by Jordy Nelson in the first quarter, got his payback just before halftime when he was left uncovered and caught a 5-yard touchdown that tied it 14-14 at halftime. It was the sixth consecutive game the all-Big 12 cornerback had scored a touchdown.

"That's the kind of game that we would have given away last year," said Talib. "This year we have more experience. We have the confidence at the end of the game."

Nelson, who came into the game with 42 catches for 497 yards and was the Big 12 offensive player of the week after the Texas win, caught 10 balls for 137 yards and a TD in Kansas State's first game as a ranked team in three years.

Working against Talib, he made two outstanding catches on the 11-play, 80-yard drive that Leon Patton capped with a 6-yard run for a 14-7 Kansas State lead.

"Jordy Nelson is one of the top four or five receivers I've seen play in this league," Mangino said. "He has all the tools you want."

Kansas State caught a huge break late in the fourth when the ball bounced off Fields, soared about 20 feet into the air and was cradled by Chris Carney for his second interception on the Kansas 16.

After converting on fourth-and-inches to the 5, Freeman handed off to Patton, who pulled up and found Deon Murphy alone in the end zone for a 24-21 lead with 7:32 left.

Fields made up for his mistake by shaking free of a tackler and speeding 30 yards for the go-ahead score.

"I knew I was going to get another chance," said Fields. "It felt great."

The Jayhawks got their first touchdown on Kansas State's home field since 1999 when Jake Sharp, apparently stopped for a short gain, burst out of a gang of tacklers and sped 20 yards to make it 7-7.

Kansas went ahead 21-14 when Reesing connected with Dezmon Briscoe for a 28-yard touchdown pass.

The Wildcats pulled to 21-17 on Brooks Rossman's 32-yard field goal in the final seconds of the third quarter.

The Jayhawks had averaged more than 550 yards and 53 points while crushing Central Michigan, Southeast Louisiana, Toledo and Florida International, a nonconference schedule that left many wondering if Kansas was to be taken seriously.

"We're going to have some fun and enjoy this," fullback Brandon McAnderson said. "It feels great. I don't remember feeling like this at any other time in my career. It's the best."


Final, KU wins 30-24

Josh Freeman ran out after out after out on three straight plays to set K-State up at its own 49-yard line, hitting Daniel Gonzalez twice and Deon Murphy once.

On second-and-10, Derrell Stuckey made a great tackle on James Johnson to hold a short pass to a two-yard gain. An incompletion over the middle on third-and-eight was the result of Justin Thornton breaking up a pass for Jordy Nelson. Aqib Talib picked off a fourth-and-eight pass to seal the deal with 1:12 to go.

Todd Reesing finished 22-of-35 for 267 yards and three touchdowns to combat his three interceptions.

Josh Freeman was picked off three times by KU for the second straight year, finishing with 31 completions and 305 yards passing.

Jordy Nelson had a game-high 10 catches for 137 yards and a touchdown. For KU, Dexton Fields had 78 yards on six catches, and what will go down as the game-winning touchdown.

KU held K-State to just 53 yards on the ground, while both Jake Sharp and Brandon McAnderson pushed close to the 100-yard mark.

KU, now 5-0 overall and 1-0 in the Big 12, returns to action next Saturday with a home date against Baylor. Kickoff is set for 11:30 a.m.

2:21, fourth quarter, KU leads 30-24

KU's defense got its big break of the second half, as Kendrick Harper, playing in his first game of the year, picked off a Josh Freeman pass and was taken down at the KSU 26, giving KU a prime opportunity to grind the clock to its end.

On third down inside the K-State 10, Derek Fine had an unfortunate drop in the back of the end zone, leaving KU to kick a field goal and give K-State one last chance to drive down for the win.

4:32, fourth quarter, KU leads 27-24

KU's defense got its big break of the second half, as Kendrick Harper, playing in his first game of the year, picked off a Josh Freeman pass and was taken down at the KSU 26, giving KU a prime opportunity to grind the clock to its end.

6:27, fourth quarter, KU leads 27-24

KU went right to the air on first down of its next possession. Todd Reesing hit Dexton Fields down the sideline for 33 yards, and followed it with a first down strike over the middle to Derek Fine to put the ball at the KSU 30.

The word of the drive wound up being 'redemption,' as Dexton Fields then took a 30-yard catch down the middle of the field and strolled in for a touchdown. A bad snap on the extra point attempt, though, kept the score at 27-24, with KSU within tying range. Fields has six catches for 78 yards and a score.

7:32, fourth quarter, KSU leads 24-21

K-State got the ball right back thanks to a fortunate bounce going the Cats' way. On first down, Todd Reesing fired a short pass for Dexton Fields, but the ball ricocheted off Fields' facemask, fluttered in the air and was hauled down by Chris Carney, setting KSU up at the KU 16-yard line.

A throw to Mastrud and a five-yard encroachment call helped lead to a first-and-goal at the KU six-yard line for KSU.

K-State then ran a trick play, as Leon Patton rolled right and threw a five-yard touchdown toss over the top to Deon Murphy. The extra point -put the Wildcats up 24-21 with 7:32 to play.

8:57, fourth quarter, KU leads 21-17

Josh Freeman made a huge third down connection with Deon Murphy on K-State's next possession to give the Cats a first down.

After a near-pick by Aqib Talib, another third down play, KU stuffed the Wildcats short on a pass play over the middle. K-State had no choice but to punt the ball. This time it was Dezmon Briscoe back to make the fair catch for KU at his own 14-yard line.

11:42, fourth quarter, KU leads 21-17

After an incomplete pass tipped by Ian Campbell at the line to start the third quarter, Brandon McAnderson made another lengthy tote, this time putting the ball at the K-State 42 for a first down.

Jake Sharp took a carry for no gain on first down, and it was followed by KU opening up the Kerry Meier package, as Reesing struck him over the middle for a 16-yard gain to the K-State 25. Sharp then went for four yards to the 21.

On third-and-four, Reesing slipped a short dump to McAnderson, whoset up a fourth-and-one at the 16, leaving KU with a decision to make. It required KU's first timeout of the second half to be made.

KU opted to go for it, which in hindsight may have been the wrong path, as Jake Sharp was tripped up at the line of scrimmage on a pitch play to the right.

End third quarter, KU leads 21-17

KU's running game continued to improve as the game wore on, as a pair of Brandon McAnderson runs took the ball from the KU 17 to the KU 45 to end the third quarter.

McAnderson has 49 yards on six carries, while Jake Sharp has 13 carries for 71 yards.

:50, third quarter, KU leads 21-17

KU's momentum translated to the defensive side of the football momentarily, as a John Larson sack was the key to another three-and-out for the Wildcats. But K-State got a huge break when Dakota Lewis was called for roughing the kicker on fourth down, and the Cats got the ball back at their own 39. A play later, Freeman hit Deon Murphy for another first down.

Freeman then went right down the middle for Jeron Mastrud for a 24-yard game on a skying catch to put the ball at the KU 25.

KSU then went to the ground attack, picking up a first down to the KU 14.

On a reverse play on first down from there, Aqib Talib made an excellent defensive play, leaping over Josh Freeman's attempted block and sticking Murphy out of bounds. After a no-gainer on second down, James McClinton stuffed James Johnson in the backfield for a huge stop. Brooks Rossman came out to hit a 32-yard field goal.

6:59, third quarter, KU leads 21-14

K-State went three-and-out for the second straight drive to open the second half. After Freeman overshot Nelson on the sideline on first down, a pair of James Johnson runs netted about a yard total, and a punt sailing out of the end zone gave KU the ball at its own 20-yard line with 10:34 to play in the third quarter.

KU went right to Jake Sharp, trying to keep the ball on the ground rather than combat the wind blowing in from the South. Sharp's first two runs netted nine yards, and on third-and-one, Reesing absorbed a Marcus Watts shot to the back just after finding Marcus Henry for a 12-yard gain over the middle.

KU took a shot downfield on the next play, as Reesing aired one out for Dezmon Briscoe, who had a step down the seam. The ball went incomplete, though. On the next snap, Reesing hit Dexton Fields for 17 more yards over the middle to set KU up at the K-State 42.

Reesing earned another first down two plays later. After a five-yard run by Sharp, he hit Derek Fine for the third time, and the senior tight end scooted inside the 30 to the 28. Briscoe then redeemed himself on a quick slant, which he took for 28 yards down the left hash for a touchdown, giving KU a 21-14 lead with 6:59 left in the first quarter.

12:01, third quarter, game tied 14-14

K-State took the opening kick in the second half and returned it to its own 24-yard line.

Things went south for the Wildcats in the early going. First Josh Freeman was forced into throwing a pass away, and Alesana Alesana followed it with his third penalty of the game, this time of the five-yard variety on a false start call. After a 10-yard completion to Jordy Nelson, an incompletion to Deon Murphy gave the ball back to KU with a punt. KU took over at its own 19.

KU's drive started promising with a 10-yard run by Jake Sharp, but it stalled out three plays later when Ian Campbell boosted his season sack total to 2.5 with an eight-yard takedown of Todd Reesing. Kyle Tucker had to punt into the wind for the fourth time, and again it set KSU up with favorable field position at its own 45-yard line.

Halftime, game tied 14-14

Todd Reesing rebounded somewhat from a bad first quarter to go into the half 12-of-20 with 112 yards and a late touchdown paired with his second and third picks of the season. Josh Freeman was a little more consistent, going 16-of-21 with 189 yards, a score and an interception.

Jordy Nelson was by far the first half's brightest star, catching six balls for the Wildcats for 116 yards and an impressive 68-yard score on a fade and sprint against Aqib Talib. Dezmon Briscoe led KU with 39 yards on three catches, including two tough grabs over the middle. Jake Sharp is the game's leading rusher with 45 yards and a touchdown on eight carries.

:11, second quarter, game tied 14-14

KU's defense got its first big break of the day, as Caleb Blakesley tipped up a Josh Freeman pass and Russell Brorsen, a former tight end, caught it at the K-State 45. On first down, however, Todd Reesing was rushed by a pair of K-State defenders, and it was jarred loose. Adrian Mayes, though, fell on the ball right in front of him.

On second-and-16, Reesing hit Dezmon Briscoe for his third catch of the game and a gain of 14. Reesing then struck Derek Fine on a quick out for the first down at the KSU 33.

On first down, Reesing flipped a short pass to Brandon McAnderson, who shot to the outside and pushed the ball inside the 10 to the nine-yard line and out of bounds with :26 left.

On first-and-goal, Reesing again went to McAnderson, who was trapped in the middle of the field at the five yard line, forcing KU into calling its final timeout.

On the next play, though, Reesing threw short and left to a wide open Aqib Talib in the end zone, giving Talib a touchdown in six straight games dating back to the end of the 2006 season.

2:20, second quarter, KSU leads 14-7

KU needed early noise to respond to KSU's score, and on third-and-five, after short runs by Sharp and Reesing, the sophomore QB found Dezmon Briscoe over the middle for his first catch of the day, setting KU up at its own 46-yard line. He then found Briscoe again on a pass he bobbled and double-caught for a second straight first down.

The momentum was cut short on an underthrown pass for Derek Fine, as Byron Garvin snagged it in space, and a five-yard return set KSU up at its own 32 with 2:20 left in the first half.

3:52, second quarter, KSU leads 14-7

K-State's Jordy Nelson came back with a 15-yard catch while toeing the sideline, putting him over 100 yards receiving on the day with just five grabs. He has 11 yards, to be exact.

Set up with a first-and-10 at the KU 43-yard line, KU's run defense pushed Leon Patton back for a loss of a yard. But Deon Murphy then got on the board with his second catch, as Freeman rolled out and again slipped a ball up over Aqib Talib. This time, it put the ball at the KU 27.

Following a nine-yard completion to Jeron Mastrud, James Johnson lost three yards, putting K-State with a crucial third-and-four. But matched up on Aqib Talib again, Jordy Nelson made a nine-yard grab in front of him, making it first-and-10 at the KU 16.

The entire team was lifted by Nelson's heroics on the drive, as James Johnson pushed a pile to the six-yard line, forcing a second-and-short. A play later, Leon Patton pushed a modest pile forward, striking paydirt with a six-yard run in response to KU's first score of the day.

9:11, second quarter, game tied 7-7

KU went right to Jake Sharp, who on a tough run picked up six yards up the middle. That was followed by a no gainer, setting up third-and-four for KU. Todd Reesing this time tucked it and ran up the middle for a 10-yard gain to put KU at its own 30-yard line.

Todd Reesing again tried to air it out on first-and-10 following a timeout, but his pass over the middle for Marcus Henry was dropped at midfield. He followed it, though, by hitting Derek Fine for the first time on the day for a 17-yard gain to the KU 47. Brandon McAnderson added a three-yard run on first down to put the ball exactly at midfield.

McAnderson's second straight run netted four more yards, setting up a third-and-three.

Reesing game KU its third first down of the drive by hitting Henry on a cross over the middle for 12 yards. Following that was a Jake Sharp pitch in which he scooted easily by Andrew Erker for a 14-yard gain, putting KU at the KSU 20-yard line.

Sharp then ended the drive with KU's first touchdown in Manhattan in eight years on a 20-yard gain in which he slipped through a trio of Wildcat defenders to silence the KSU crowd.

Scott Webb's extra point tied the gamge, 7-7.

13:41, second quarter, KSU leads 7-0

K-State was thwarted by another penalty on the offensive line. This time, a holding call on second-and-10 amde it second-and-20. Followed by Joe Mortensen smacking Leon Patton for a four-yard loss on a screen pass, KU's defense again pushed the ball out of dangerous territory.

For the second straight drive, a third-and-long catch by Jordy Nelson just wasn't enough, and this time, Raimond Pendleton hauled in a fair catch at the KU 14, setting up the Jayhawks' first possession of the second quarter.

:16, first quarter, KSU leads 7-0

K-State's next drive started with an incompletion and then a three-yard gain on a short dump to Nelson. Though the gain was negated, as Alesana Alesana was flagged on his second personal foul call of the game, making it a second-and-25 situation for the Cats at their own 19.

On third-and-19, Freeman hit Jordy Nelson, but he was swarmed by a trio of Jayhawks, led by Sadiq Muhammed, and forced a punt. Raimond Pendleton called for a fair catch again, this time inside his own five, and again failed to haul it in, letting it bounce through the end zone for a touchback.

KU only gained four yards on two carries, and Todd Reesing was swarmed in the backfield and was forced to throw the ball away on third down. A 28-yard Tucker punt gave KSU the ball at its own 48.

3:38, first quarter, KSU leads 7-0

After a three-and-out which garnered negative yards, Kyle Tucker's first punt of the day was a dude, setting K-State up at its own 45-yard line.

K-State's offensive possession started well. After a Josh Freeman incompletion, James Johnson took a couple of carries down to the KU 31-yard line. Set up with a third-and-five on the 26, James McClinton forced Freeman into an awkward underhanded throw which fell incomplete past the outstretched mitts of Johnson. A missed 44-yard field goal by Brooks Rossman gave KU a first-and-10 from its own 26. Rossman's kick was long enough, but clanked off the left upright near the flag on top.

After a four-yard run by Jake Sharp on first down, Reesing fired two incomplete passes to Derek Fine, forcing KU to punt yet again.

Another wobbly Tucker punt was fielded by KSU at its own 34-yard line.

8:48, first quarter, KSU leads 7-0

KU still kept Meier and Reesing in the game, but this time it was Meier executing the quick kick. The ball was tipped at the line and died at the KSU 32-yard line.

It took one play for KSU to open things up, with Aqib Talib getting torched down the sideline on a fade route thrown to Jordy Nelson, who scooted easily down the sideline for a 68-yard score.

9:10, first quarter, game tied 0-0

Brandon McAnderson picked up three yards on a first down run, and it was followed by Reesing hitting Dexton Fields for eight yards, giving KU the game's first first down.

McAnderson picked up the momentum on an inside give, going for 11 yards and another fresh set of downs, followed by a Todd Reesing seven-yard scramble.

The momentum took a hit, though, when a first down run by Jake Sharp was brought back due to a chop block call on Chet Hartley on the right side of the line.

On second-and-18, a swing pass on the left to Jake Sharp netted nine yards, setting up a big third down for KU at its own 32. Todd Reesing dropped back into a nice pocket, but he threw a dangerous ball into double coverage which was tipped away by Chris Carney.

KU played a little trickery on fourth-and-nine, putting Kerry Meier at quarterback and splitting Reesing out wide, and the tactic worked, as K-State blew a timeout before KU had the chance to quick kick.

12:15, first quarter, game tied 0-0

KU took the ball at its own 20 after Jared Parker's kick sailed through the end zone.

The Jayhawks attempted to throw K-State off the scent right away, putting Kerry Meier and Aqib Talib both out at wide receiver. On the first snap, Reesing underthrew a pass down the seam for Talib, and it was picked by Greg Gaskins.

On KSU's first play, Josh Freeman hit Daniel Gonzalez for a first down gain, but a personal foul call on Alesana Alesana resulted in a 15-yard penalty for the Cats, making it first-and-25.

Freeman then hit James Johnson for a four-yard gain, and was tripped up by Chris harris on second down while tucking and running to his left, setting up a thrd-and-16.

Freeman hit Jordy Nelson on third down, but the gain was minimal, forcing KSU to punt from midfield. Raimond Pendleton muffed a fair catch, but pounced on it at the 10-yard line.


A week of build-up, trash talk and analysis culminates today on a hot, sunny Saturday afternoon in Manhattan as KU and K-State lock up for the annual Sunflower Showdown - the most anticipated edition of the rivalry since 1995 when both squads entered as ranked teams.

KU takes its undefeated, yet untested resume into Bill Snyder Family Stadium today for an 11 a.m. kickoff against No. 24 Kansas State, entering with a 3-1 record and fresh off of a 41-21 upset victory of then-No. 7 Texas down in Austin.

The game is undoubtedly the toughest test yet for Kansas, which before its bye week last Saturday had slain four straight non-conference opponents by a combined tally of 214-23. Though on top of this being the best team KU will face to date, it will be the first time in Todd Reesing's young career that he has started a game on the road. He couldn't ask for a more hostile environment, either. Through four games, the savvy sophomore gunslinger has completed 73 of 125 pass attempts, good for 1,199 yards and 11 touchdowns as opposed to just one pick.

While KU's offense has been wide open and filled with highlight reel content, Kansas State has gotten by so far with a fast, aggressive defense and an offense which keeps things simple for sophomore quarterback Josh Freeman. Freeman had a nightmarish first go-around against KU in 2006, throwing three interceptions and losing three fumbles in a 39-20 loss in Lawrence. But this season, he has completed 61.8 percent of his passes in an attack which keeps things short and simple. Look for him to get the ball to senior receiver Jordy Nelson a ton. The former walk-on from Riley, Kan., already has 42 receptions this year, and is the reigning Big 12 Offensive Player of the Week. K-State also boasts last week's Big 12 Defensive POW honoree in junior defensive end Ian Campbell, who anchors a quick, attack-minded front three.

KU leads the all-time series against K-State, 63-36-5, but has not won in Manhattan since 1989. In other words, they've had eight consecutive unsuccessful tries in the Little Apple.


Seth Peattie 14 years, 2 months ago

Agree, seattlehawk_78.

The "Fire Mangino" idiots need to SUCK IT. How absurd.

5-0, CLOWNS.

jayloco 14 years, 2 months ago

Not much to add to the posts already here, but wanted to weigh in on the 4th and 1 and going for it. I completely agreed with it. Mangino said at the beginning of this year that he asks for these guys to lay it on the line every play. It wouldn't be fair to ask this of them and not expect the same from the KU coaching staff and himself. He promised this team to give them every chance to go out and win a game. We basically had our foot on the Mildcats' throats. We were up 4 with a chance to shave another 2 minutes off the clock. I completely agree with the call. I think a lot of traditionalists say to go for the win on the road. I loved the decision and hated the play call. Just glad it didn't come back to bite us. Yep, that bandwagon is going to be mighty full going forward Hawks. Keep the focus and run this record to 6-0!

Dirk Medema 14 years, 2 months ago

Navy - It was encouraging to read your post about the pushoff. I only saw it once on a replay - missed the start of the game, but sure thought it looked like O-PI.

14 years, 2 months ago

Wow, Nelson blew right by Talib.

tao7 14 years, 2 months ago

Lou should walk out onto the field right now and fire mangino. What a 4th down bonehead move. Aquib is overrated!

KUglow 14 years, 2 months ago

I want to know why you take the ball to start so that you have to go into the wind in the first quarter on the road? Get your D on the field and you pin them back. You need momentum early!!! Two weeks of prep out the window after the coin toss.

KUglow 14 years, 2 months ago

And Ressing is throwing 99MPH fastballs to his receivers. RELAX!!!!

14 years, 2 months ago

Reesing looks pretty bad so far.

14 years, 2 months ago

At least next quarter we'll be punting with the wind.

KUglow 14 years, 2 months ago

Wow. How did we manage to stay within seven after the first quarter???? We need a turnover to change this game around.

dbgjayhawk 14 years, 2 months ago

is there an internet radio station that the game is on?

14 years, 2 months ago

dbg, check out KLZR on the net. The game should be on there.

KUglow 14 years, 2 months ago

OK, let's see if the wind really is a difference today.

14 years, 2 months ago

We need a nice, time-consuming 86 yard offensive touchdown drive now.

14 years, 2 months ago

That wasn't real time-consuming, but I'll take it! It looks like either the wind is making a big difference, or we are starting to settle in. Probably both. Reesing looked much better on that possession.

Ku_fan5 14 years, 2 months ago

it doesnt matter if its time consuming you have toscre points or you cant win the game period.

Ku_fan5 14 years, 2 months ago

i think weve got a chance at this game now if our defense plays well we can win

14 years, 2 months ago

fan5, the point is we need to wear down their defense AND score - - kind of like they are doing to us right now.

Freeman is having a career game so far.

dbgjayhawk 14 years, 2 months ago

yeah, i haven't heard of him throwing an incomplete yet. our run d is doing well, but we need to step up the pass d.

KUglow 14 years, 2 months ago

Swear to god Ressing is playing in cement boots today.

dbgjayhawk 14 years, 2 months ago

touchdown again, i thought we were done, but thank god for this touchdown

14 years, 2 months ago

Sweet! I think we have mighty mo on our side now!

KUglow 14 years, 2 months ago

Let's be honest. KSU has outplayed us on offense. Freeman has looked awesome. And yet here we are, still tied and with momentum at the half. Have we taken their best punch and ready to counter in the 2nd????

Jason413 14 years, 2 months ago

If we do not turn the ball over in the 2nd half, we will win this game!

jmason 14 years, 2 months ago

The defense needs to do a better job of tackling in the second half and the secondary needs to wake up. The Hawks are lucky to be tied at the half but sometimes it is better to be lucky than good. If Ressing can calm himself at the half and we run the ball more in the second half, I like our chances. ROCK CHALK!!

100 14 years, 2 months ago

Keep the faith guys. They believe in themselves. Just like basketball season, you gotta believe it can be done. And it certainly can be -- just a question of how we handle schemology during the 2nd.

14 years, 2 months ago

Having the wind at our backs in the 4th quarter is going to be nice.

dbgjayhawk 14 years, 2 months ago

schemology...i like that word. i believe they can win as well. they just have to keep believing and playing hard.

KUglow 14 years, 2 months ago

Two straight plays we should have had a TD!!!!

KUglow 14 years, 2 months ago

BLITZ BURNED TOUCHDOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KUglow 14 years, 2 months ago

I can see the 5 yarder but not a personal foul.

14 years, 2 months ago

glow, I agree. At least they only got 3 out of it.

KUglow 14 years, 2 months ago

Here we go, wearing them down as we head to the 4th. This is it.

14 years, 2 months ago

Is it too early to start running clock? :)

KUglow 14 years, 2 months ago

Well, kick or go for it? I say go for it but it ain't my butt on the line either.

14 years, 2 months ago

I would have gone for it too. Dang.

dbgjayhawk 14 years, 2 months ago

yeah, i thought it was a good decision to go for it too

14 years, 2 months ago

What's up with no flag on the contact after the fair catch?

dbgjayhawk 14 years, 2 months ago

now we need to drive the ball down the field and score a touchdown and WIN THE GAME!

dbgjayhawk 14 years, 2 months ago

oh no, a turnover. we need to hold to a field goal now

14 years, 2 months ago

We don't have many penalties, but the ones we do have, are big.

14 years, 2 months ago

Merry Christmas.

Plenty of time left, though.

tao7 14 years, 2 months ago

going for it was dumb then and now it's really dumb! Not on the road, maybe at home. I do think we could kick Texas' ass this year though!!!

KUglow 14 years, 2 months ago

Well, let's see how big his balls really are, shall we?

KUglow 14 years, 2 months ago

Yep, his balls are might BIG. Let's fire him anyway. Go hawks!!!!!!!!

14 years, 2 months ago

Nice touchdown, bad conversion attempt. That could be big...

KUglow 14 years, 2 months ago

YES!!!!! Oh baby get that ball in the end zone

14 years, 2 months ago

It would be nice just to run the clock out and not even give them the ball back...

kc_wildfire 14 years, 2 months ago

KU coaches and players giving KSU every chance to stay in the game and a chance to win.

frompekka2sasha 14 years, 2 months ago

Unbelievable that we botched the PAT the last time around. This game should be OVER.

14 years, 2 months ago

Tough drop. Man, it's coming down to the wire now. We need your D again, Pekka! At least there was no return.

KUglow 14 years, 2 months ago

Ok, this is no time for the prevent D.

KUglow 14 years, 2 months ago

Oh great, the rock chalk chant. A little early folks.

tao7 14 years, 2 months ago

I stand corrected, Talib has shown he is not overated. BUT the calls were still questionable.

frompekka2sasha 14 years, 2 months ago

When all else fails you have to channel the name of an obscure foreigner that played basketball for KU. 18 years we have been waiting for this one.

Jclarkson 14 years, 2 months ago


three out of the last four!

KUglow 14 years, 2 months ago

I do believe the road to the Big 12 North goes through the state of Kansas. ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK!!!!

14 years, 2 months ago

Three in a row!!! The sweet taste of victory!

Heeerrrrrreee kitty, kitty, kitty....

Heeerrrrrreee kitty, kitty, kitty....

sevenyearhawk 14 years, 2 months ago


Take that willie!!!!!!!!!

Kyle Crenshaw 14 years, 2 months ago

O SWEET SWEET VICTORY!!! where's willie now?

KUglow 14 years, 2 months ago

And you know what? Those cupcakes are tasting pretty damn sweet right now.

100 14 years, 2 months ago

Look forward to hearing from Willie.

sevenyearhawk 14 years, 2 months ago

kst8, kst8, kst8 ... STINKS!

Mangino 2, Princess ZERO!!!

jayhawkr34 14 years, 2 months ago

i love to watch B-MAC run, hopefully we see him in a chiefs uni one day

KUAlum2000 14 years, 2 months ago

celebrate tonite and then get back to it tomorrow. Can't let Baylor come to our place and do what we just did to the mildcats.

KUAlum2000 14 years, 2 months ago

i guess we play there, but you get my point.

Jason413 14 years, 2 months ago

We should of won this game by 14. We left to many points on the field. If we are going to be big 12 champs we have to fix those problems. That being said, WE have the ability be big 12 champs. GO HAWKS!

34_5_20_nbaTitle 14 years, 2 months ago

So i was wrong, we didn't win by 21. Can't say i've ever been so excited about being wrong though.

I must say that jordy kid can play.

flipborder02 14 years, 2 months ago

Wow some of you people who posted comments at the beging of the game have no faith in your team not all of you guys just some of you.

seattlehawk_78 14 years, 2 months ago

Really, fire Mangino. Show some faith people.

Jonathan Allison 14 years, 2 months ago

Too bad for everyone who forgot their powertowels, I guess they just have to cry into their sleeves.

seattlehawk_78 14 years, 2 months ago

7year, how did you get here so fast? I thought you went to the game?

sevenyearhawk 14 years, 2 months ago

I am sitting in grad class ... they put a computer in my lap, VERY BAD IDEA TODAY!

I had a lunch break, I saw most of the 2nd and 3rd quarters ...

fabio and Jimmy_Dean are there in my place ...

Is it me, or is the bandwagon suddenly getting a little crowded?!?

grins from ear to freaking ear!!!

100 14 years, 2 months ago

First of all we need to take care of Baylor in Lawrence. This game is not a "gimme". We've got to show up in full force and, the coaches need to plan just like we're playing UT. Keep the team pumped up with positive comments. They read this stuff. Secondly, in two weeks, get your friends and family, get some blue shirts, and go to Boulder and even if you don't have a ticket, fire them up from the hill. I watched Colorado play Michigan there on the hill a few years ago and it's a great beautiful campus, almost as nice as KU's. We need to cover that hill with blue and have a deep respect for CU. If we, as fans, and our coaches, plan schemes and execute properly, this will be a huge turnaround season for us -- we just need, us fans, and our coaches, to take it one week at at time. Look what happened today in Manhattan. That wouldn't have happened without our fans going crazy!!!!! KU fans, we've gotta travel and take care of the road opponents this year!!!!!

sevenyearhawk 14 years, 2 months ago

you think they aren't going to review what happened LAST year in Waco?

enjoy this now, at midnight, time to start thinking about the teddy bears!!!

seattlehawk_78 14 years, 2 months ago

7year, I think your red t-shirt crusade went about as well as your beak 'em campaign. My hats off to those who were brave enough to travel into enemy territory. I think I saw some KU players go into the stands after the game. Not sure what happened to the goalposts.

jayhawkr34 14 years, 2 months ago

as far as the "babdwagon" goes, whenever someone asks me if im a jayhawk BB fan cuz i have jayhawk gear on, i always say no im a JAYHAWK fan

vwskywalk 14 years, 2 months ago are a f-ing idiot. Why don't you just go root for KState or Mizzou and take your loser attitude somewhere else.

KU breaks into the top 25. 5-0 We still won't get any respect. On to our next victim. GO HAWKS!!!!

sevenyearhawk 14 years, 2 months ago

well, I commented to someone offline that the boards were swelling this week, I hope you all will stay around and enjoy the ride to San Antonio!!!

I know, the red shirt thing fell flat, but I'm a persistent fool, I kept after my wife for ONE FULL YEAR until I got the first date!!!

and now we've been married five years ...

Kit Duncan 14 years, 2 months ago

I agree seattlehawk, a lot of fair weather fans in a hurry to dump Mangino because of some miscues on the field. The kudos go to Mark and his coaches for picking a gameplan and sticking to it. Nobody panicked. Questionable call going for the first down with a kicker of Webb's ability, but I believed they would make it anyway. Defense played extremely well, and, except for a couple of plays by Nelson on the 68 yard TD catch & run and his circus catch on the sideline, would have had better numbers. The roughing-the-kicker penalty hurt.

By the way, did no one see Nelson push off on Aqib?!!! He probably would have caught the ball, but no way he would have gone all the way without stopping Talib's momentum with his left arm push off.

Oh, Todd's name is spelled REESING, everybody (not Ressing)!

Great game 'Hawks!!! Keep it up!

seattlehawk_78 14 years, 2 months ago

It was a good game plan but I thought they should have gone for the three and I'm not just saying that in hindsight. A field goal at that point plus the field goal with a little over two minutes would have iced the game for us. After booting the pat it gave them a chance to win. Losing by one point would have been oh so painful.

kc_wildfire 14 years, 2 months ago


First of all thanks for the kind words. Your Christmas card will be in the mail shortly :)

Secondly I am a KU fan who just happens to think that Mangino isn't a good head coach. So if that makes me less than a fan than be it.

Mangino made two very bad decisions in today's game from my point of view...luckily it didn't come back to hurt them, although against tougher teams it just might have.

1.) Going for it on fourth down instead of trying the short field goal. I'm from the school who says put points on the board when you have the opportunity. A FG at that range would have been a high percentage play. Instead they go for it...and they run a stretch play in favor or running it up the middle where they had been gaining yards all game.

2.) Throwing a pass on third down with about 2:30 left in the game. Again, from the school that says you run the ball and either let the clock run down or force KSU to use a timeout. Granted that play should have resulted in a TD...but it didn't and the clock stopped and KSU still had 3 TO's.

Someone stated earlier that there were way too many miscues and points left on the field (by both the players and the coaches in my opnion) and against good teams we are going to need to those points.

Good win, hopefully we keep it going.

Bryan Summers 14 years, 2 months ago

7Year - I was disappointed there weren't more red shirts in the stands... I think you are right about the blue shirts blending in with the purple. You would have thought some young go-getter would have sold cheap red (or white) shirts with a clever saying on them.

I'm impressed with Nelson. I love that he is a Kansas kid who walked-on and earned a scholarship and is one of the top receivers in the Big XII. He definitely came through for KSUck today. Kudo's to him.

Nice job defense. Despite taking a quarter to get in to gear, our team looked pretty good.

Looking forward to more wins...if only we could get more games on TV. enjoying watching the OU/TX game... currently tied 14-14. Also, looking forward to NE/MO tonight.

Rock Chalk!!!

Kit Duncan 14 years, 2 months ago

Just watched my dvr. Aqib did not get burned, he was interfered with. Great camera work by Fox shows he actually had inside position on Nelson, appears to see the ball coming and has his right arm out in front of Nelson's chest to either intercept or knock the ball out when it gets there. Then, Nelson makes a Michael Irvin swim move over Aqib's arm while grabbing his jersey and pushing down and back, completely turning Aqib to his right and slowing his momentum while helping gain separation.

I'm sure the zebras figured it was incidental contact and maybe it was. Aqib Talib did NOT get burned on the play. I'd still put him one-on-one with anybody's star receiver.

Great game Aqib!

seattlehawk_78 14 years, 2 months ago

I agree on the 4th down call wildfire. We were still 20 yards away from the goal line so I don't think the reward justified the risk. Perhaps the coaching staff saw a weakness they thought they could exploit but in any event that play could have come back to haunt us in a big way.

However, I disagree with your assessment of Mangino. I think he is the best coach we've had in a very long time.

Bryan Summers 14 years, 2 months ago

I, too, would have gone for the field goal...If we had made the 4th down conversion we would all be talking about it being a great call. It seems that Mangino is a gambler, not my style, but I appreciate the aggressiveness. I would have gone to B-Mac up the middle. Perhaps, also, it was a good call but was poorly executed.

kc_wildfire 14 years, 2 months ago


Best coach we've had in a very long time...agreed. Sadly that doesn't really say much given the performance of the football program historically.

However I still don't think he is the right coach for KU. With a team that generally, hopefully not this year, is going up against more talented football teams, we need a coach who can coach a team to a win.

Play calling and clock management are big ingredients for success. Just take the game today as an example...would the failed fourth down attempt come back to haunt us against an Oklahoma or Missouri team that both feature better offenses?

Again...great win!

It will make for a better work week for me as I work with a bunch of MU / Iowa fans who jump on any chance to give me crap about KU...not this week though!!!

Jaminrawk 14 years, 2 months ago

YES! Bragging rights for another year! All the power towels in the world can't soak up the tears in Aggieville tonight.

sevenyearhawk 14 years, 2 months ago

Jamin, GREAT comment ...

People, people, people ... my wife pointed out, if we win at home next week against Baylor, KU will be BOWL ELIGIBLE!!!

If Nebraska beats Missouri tonight, the Hawks will be the ...


jtodd7 14 years, 2 months ago

Ok im pretty excited we won. but after reading the first 20 or so posts...SHUT THE F*** UP!!

If you can't cheer on the team when they are losing or when things arent going our way dont cheer at all. Sure we got the ball. Mangino was thinking exactly what I was...get points on the board. as for the 4th and 1 play...why not? why not end the game RIGHT there by getting a first down. I do not agree on the play call. and we also need to work on our receivers hands, it doesnt help that reesing was throwing lasers either.

Well either way a win is a win. Looks like we just wiped our asses with kstates "power towel"

rock chalk jayhawk!!

Jeremy Bolinger 14 years, 2 months ago

hey kc_wildfire.................. In the words on another questionable head coach, you play to win the game. If you are at home, be conservative. When on the road, take chances. So we came up short.... It didnt seem to bite us in the @ss this time. 3 of the last 4 from one of our biggest rivals? Seems like manjello is doing something right. But hey, maybe you'd do better so maybe mangino should be fired. Hope you are the first to submit your application for employment.

kc_wildfire 14 years, 2 months ago


I'll be sure to give you front row tickets to every home game if I get the job :)

kunruh 14 years, 2 months ago

I agree with going for it on 4th down. We were moving the ball well, only 1 yard short, and in the opponents house field goals aren't always going to get it done. I'm not sure I like the outside run, but I like the attacking style. Looking back, it stunk to come away with nothing, but instead of focusing on the negatives, think about the momentum we would have got from converting and going in to score.

actorman 14 years, 2 months ago

I agree with those who are saying going for it was the right move but that they should have run Brandon up the middle instead of pitching back to the outside. I like the aggressiveness and say you have to go for the jugular when you have the chance.

For those who say that a field goal there, combined with the later field goal, would have put the game away, that's simply ridiculous. Everything affects everything else and there's no way of knowing whether things would have gone differently.

I think the great majority of coaches are too conservative, and I'd rather go down fighting. Kudos to MM for his biggest win at KU so far (along with the win against NU).

DallasHawk 14 years, 2 months ago

GO HAWKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

BreakmanX 14 years, 2 months ago

Go Hawks! The doubters are so cute. Maybe they'll be a little quieter now.

CasperCorps 14 years, 2 months ago

Good game Hawks!! Make sure you kick your extra points and field goals from here on out... Rockem..........

Kit Duncan 14 years, 2 months ago

Hey notabandwagon! Here you are defending a KU head coach. Am I wrong or haven't you been pretty hard on Coach Self? (shakes head) I agree heartily with your defense of coach Mangino. He may not be the most likable coach from a physical standpoint, but he's done a great recruiting job, and appears on the verge of turning Kansas football into a respectable nationally known program. Not quite there yet, KU needs to beat some more quality teams (especially non-conference). A post season win (BCS would be nice) against a ranked opponent would clearly put KU on the map.

I believe he has the tools to do it with, even if Aqib leaves after this season.

It's a Great Day to be a Jayhawk!!!

JBurtin 14 years, 2 months ago

kc_wildfire is obviously just one of those guys that loves to Monday morning quarterback and will absolutely refuse to be pleased.

Not every play is going to go your way, we missed an extra point in this game, and could have just as easily missed the roughly 33 yard fieldgoal instead of going for it on fourth. Then he'd be on here bitching that we didn't just go ahead and go for it on fourth and one when our running game was working so well.

If you're not a fan of the coach, and you don't think that KU can go anywhere under Mangino, then why don't you just go the hell away until the next coach comes along. Your negativity is absolutely inexcusable toward a coach that has literally made mountains move to bring this program to the next level.

sevenyearhawk 14 years, 2 months ago


I'M the big Self-loather ... not sure about bandwagon.

I fully expect KU to appear in a BCS game BEFORE a Final Four ...

if Coach Self somehow manages to lead this squad to a national title, I will eat my own shorts on live radio at some prominent Kansas City sportsbar!!!

frompekka2sasha 14 years, 2 months ago

Hey everybody- We won in Manhattan for the first time in 19 tries. Let's just savor the moment and celebrate together. No need to fight amongst ourselves when we all can agree that the end result is the most important thing.

Rock... Chalk... Jay... Hawk... K... U...

kc_wildfire 14 years, 2 months ago


I said it was a great win.

Sorry I pointed out some poor play calling and clock managment decisions in my opinion. Those kind of decisions might hurt us against better teams.

I'll limit my non-rose colored glass opinions to just myself and those fans who can see beyond just a win and have a meaningful debate.

landon_2003 14 years, 2 months ago

everyone who thinks going for it on fourth down is was a great idea but the play that was called was horrible. i would have ran bmac up the gut. it was a great game and goes to show ku is for real and we deserve some respect from everyone. great game guys and let's keep it rolling. rock chalk!! o yeah...where is willie at now? he's prolly still at that retreat.

seattlehawk_78 14 years, 2 months ago

I wonder if there are any "fire Prince" rants on the KSU sites.

Alan Halvorsen 14 years, 2 months ago

Someone please tell me that they have the game taped?! My Mom was taping it for me and she is actually technologically retarted (Love her to death though). But after the game when I heard she only got the first half cause she doesn't know how to put a new tape in. That pretty much watered down my excitement. But seriously if anybody did tape the full game I would pay real money for a copy of that sucker! I'm probably not the only one. ; )

Someone get back with me PLEASE!!!

RckChalkJeff 14 years, 2 months ago

Where is guessing he wont be back on here monday as he predicted.....

what a loser!

Was awesome hearing the Rock chalk chant in mancrappin!!!

sevenyearhawk 14 years, 2 months ago

All I saw about Coach Princess on their boards was that maybe KSU needed a fatter coach to win, oh and they think we're all gay ...

That's OK, at least no KU grad will give an enema to a horse, EVER!

Kit Duncan 14 years, 2 months ago

Thanks sevenyear. My apologies to notabandwagon!

sevenyear, I sure am looking forward to the day you eat your shorts, primarily because I believe Bill can do it. I also believe Mark can take Kansas to the next level in football. I think it would be awesome for KU to win an invite to the Orange Bowl and go on to win that game!

seattlehawk_78 14 years, 2 months ago

Interesting poll on the KSU site 7year. Who is K-State's real rival? 40% say no one with KU coming in second at 16%.

BTW, are those clean shorts or the ones with skid marks? Beak 'em Hawks!

sevenyearhawk 14 years, 2 months ago

they'll be dirty ...

more protein!

seattle, you could listen on 610sports online ...

I'm not too worried yet.

My main deal is I wanted Coach Turg so that KU has one of their own ... that and I think Self is a poor public speaker, you think will all that money, he could afford a speech coach or something!

seattlehawk_78 14 years, 2 months ago

The people have spoken on the 4th and 1 issue and my side lost the debate.

When they decided to go for it I saw it as an opportunity to let K-State back in the game. Yes, a first down and subsequent TD would have put them away but a first down would not assure them of getting into the endzone. I am a huge Mangino supporter but if there is one criticism I have it is his inability to secure a win in the close games. Thankfully it's all a moot point today.

Mark failed to consult me on the play calling strategy for todays game however I did receive an email from him a couple of years ago. Also got one from Bob Frederick when he was AD.

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