The Fifth Quarter: Missouri 36, Kansas 28

Posted Sunday, November 25, 2007

Some thoughts....from Arrowhead Stadium

Ryan Wood, Journal-World KU football beat writer

“Kansas showed a few flaws it hadn't shown in the past, and that's not good when playing the best team on the schedule.

Simply put, though, Missouri is a better football team than Kansas. The Tigers will make a fine Big 12 North rep and possibly play for the national title. All is not lost for KU, however: A great bowl game awaits and the possibility of a 12-1 season is still there. This is still a wildly successful season.”

Tom Keegan, Journal-World sports editor

“We'll never know which team would have won the 116th rendition of the Border War had it been played in Memorial Stadium, home field of Kansas University, 36-28 loser Saturday night to Missouri at sold-out Arrowhead Stadium.

This much we do know: The more deserving team advanced to the Big 12 title game and kept its national title hopes alive.”

Ryan Greene, KUSports.com editor

“Missouri committed 14 penalties, which docked the Tigers a total of 141 yards, and in the end it really didn’t matter. How is that so? It’s because Chase Daniel went out and completed 40 - yes, 40 - passes en route to a performance that had to turn the head of any Heisman voter.

KU is 11-1 and now has to play the waiting game. Jayhawk fans should be pulling for MU next weekend in the Big 12 title game since a Tiger win would help solidify KU’s case over Oklahoma’s for a BCS at-large bid.

The rest will be good for KU, though, who had several players - such as trench stalwarts Anthony Collins and James McClinton - hobbled and playing in what looked like ridiculous pain late in the game.

Todd Reesing also deserves a tip of the cap. Kid played like a warrior in the second half. His regular season totals of 32 touchdowns to six interceptions aren’t too shabby either.”

Inside the numbers

40: Chase Daniel’s 40-of-49 performance was littered with examples of the junior Heisman candidate consistently bailing out his offensive teammates after they made repeated mistakes in racking up a chunk of the team’s 14 penalties. Daniel looked so routine in making play after play.

42: Kansas’ offense was put even moreso on the shoulders of Todd Reesing than it normally is since the Jayhawks had such a tough time establishing a running game. Of KU’s 42 rushing yards, Brandon McAnderson accounted for 41 of them, and Jake Sharp, who at a time had a shot at a 1,000-yard season, only carried the ball once for no gain. Reesing attempted 40-plus passes for just the third time this season, and the final tally of 49 was by far a season high. His streak of 213 straight passes without an interception also ended in the first quarter.

200: Mizzou do-it-all Jeremy Maclin, who set a D-I record for all-purpose yardage in a season by a freshman this year, totaled 200 yards on the final stat sheet. He did it in a multitude of ways, with 43 punt return yards, 66 kick return yards, 22 rushing yards and 69 receiving yards. The receiving yards came on a team-high 10 catches, as he was a priceless safety valve for Daniel all night.

15: While Marcus Henry had been the go-to target of the past couple weeks, against Mizzou it was the combination of two guys who will still be around in 2008 - Dezmon Briscoe and Dexton Fields - combining for 15 grabs on the night. Briscoe had a highlight reel-worthy diving grab of 34 yards to set up KU’s first touchdown of the game, while Fields caught a flurry of passes late. Both were key in KU’s effort to claw back into the game in the second half.

11: Now the million-dollar question is: Are 11 wins opposed to just one loss enough for the Jayhawks to secure a BCS at-large berth? Representatives from the Fiesta, Sugar and Orange bowls were all in attendance, and KU making the game close late couldn’t have hurt. A lot will depend on the outcome of next weekend’s Big 12 Championship game in San Antonio. If Oklahoma wins, KU’s chances of getting an at-large ahead of Mizzou are pretty much nonexistent.

Just in case you missed it...

KU, still one of the nation’s least-penalized ballclubs, followed suit in being flagged just twice on Saturday night. If you look at the stat sheet and don’t see the score, you’d figure that if one team was flagged 14 times and the other just two, the cleaner of those two clubs would come out on top. Wasn’t the case on Saturday, but KU at least didn’t shoot itself in the foot too much.

Hopefully, you didn’t miss it...

KU still outscored MU 28-22 in the second half and showed some serious heart after everything went against the Jayhawks in the first half. Todd Reesing was still a bit inconsistent in the second half, but he played like a warrior in repeatedly leading the Jayhawks down the field during a late comeback effort. That’s something positive to build on going into a five-week hiatus before what will likely be a New Year’s Day bowl game.

They said it...

Mark Mangino on his offense’s slow start: “Go back and look at our offense, we’re not fast starters. We’ve hardly started a game this year quickly on offense. Kids take time to get into sync and get a feel for things, and it’s kind of how we’ve been all year, to be honest with you.”

Mark Mangino on Todd Reesing’s gloved throwing hand: “It’s not an issue. He has really small hands, and we knew when cold weather came, it was something he was going to do because he just has small hands. He threw the ball very well, so that’s not an issue.”

Mark Mangino on whether it would have been a different game in Lawrence: “That’s hindsight. I don’t get into hypotheticals, and I’m not one to look over my shoulder. The game was played here, that’s the agreement we made, we had a chance to win the game just like Missouri did, and they won. I’m not a second-guesser, I’m not a guy who looks over my shoulder at all. As I say all the time, I’m focused on the present and mindful of the future.”

Mark Mangino on the benefit of a month-plus off before a bowl game: “We have a number of kids that desperately need a rest. No excuses, they beat us, and I’m not into that, but we need that rest. But for a couple weeks now we’ve been a banged-up football team, and I think the time off before a bowl game will help us immensely.”

Brandon McAnderson on how Mizzou stymied KU’s running game: “They did a lot of late blitzing and stemming and they caught us in some plays and got some tackles for loss...just moving into spots that put them at the advantage instead of us...something they did more effectively (than other teams this year), later and harder to notice.”

Justin Thornton on how difficult going against Mizzou’s offense was: “Most of the time we were out there on defense, it seemed like they had a beat on us and knew what we were in. Everytime we’d call one coverage, they’d hit us and counter with something else. Chase Daniel had an outstanding night tonight. Just outstanding. It’s hard to win when a quarterback plays like that.”

James McClinton on whether he thinks KU will be in a BCS game come January: “I believe so. 11-1, man. There’s no other team out there that’s really 11-1. I understand the teams that win their conference, automatic bids. But you can’t overlook the Jayhawks. We worked it hard, we beat some tough teams, and I say we do deserve it.”

Todd Reesing on his team’s heart: “I think despite the mistakes we made, despite the fact that we lost, our team bounced back. We came back from down 21 points, maybe if we get an onside kick there that we can go down and score and win the game. So the fact that our guys didn’t give up, we were in a place we haven’t been. We were not used to being down in the fourth quarter, we fought back and played that hard, and it’s something special. It’s awesome to be a part of a team that fights like that and plays like that.”

Todd Reesing on whether he thinks KU should get a BCS at-large berth: “That’s politics that I have no control over. That’d be awesome. It’d be a real privilege to play in a game of that magnitude. That’s really out of our hands. We’re gonna hope for the best, and you can leave that up to the people who deal with that.”

Todd Reesing on his gloved throwing hand: “It didn’t have any effect. I just felt it gave me a better grip on the ball when it was cold. It had no effect on good or bad throws. I felt it was the same to me, so that didn’t really play a part in anything.”

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Posted by Patrickulating (anonymous) on November 25, 2007 at 8:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Justin Thornton has sure come on this season. If he improves as much this year to next as he did last year to this year, then he'll be an all-america candidate. I was thrilled to see him shouting to get the D-Line fired up.

Posted by CasperCorps (anonymous) on November 25, 2007 at 10:41 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Number 5 in the nation isn't too shabby.. Great season and destroy whoever we play in our bowl game.. Rockem Hawks!!

Posted by Deke13 (anonymous) on November 25, 2007 at 11:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm so stoked about this team that I am going to have a hard time waiting until next year to see the encore. Losing to Missouri really hurt my night, but I immediately was thankful for the effort throughout this season and am impatient for the what comes next. I'm on the fence on wanting those people to the east winning. I realize we would almost be assured a BCS bowl and we probably would get one here in my town (Fiesta); however, that means those people will be playing for a national championship which I cannot bear to think could happen. The KC payday makes up for any money lost in the difference between the BCS game and the next one down. I know, I know, BCS is a big deal; but I can tell you I will have an extremely hard time actually wanting Missouri to beat Oklahoma (actually don't think I can physically do it). Good luck 'Hawks on whatever bowl we dominate.

Posted by scootja32 (anonymous) on November 26, 2007 at 4:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I thought they said it would be 60-40 or even 70-30 KU to MU fans. It wasn't even close. 50-50 at best

Posted by FlaHawk (anonymous) on November 26, 2007 at 6:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

KU AD's were way off in speculating that KU would have 50,000 in attendance. They forgot that Mizzou has more football fans. Just look at the stadium sizes and you will see that Mizzou has a easy 10,00 seat advantage over KU.

Inever trust the AD for ticket estimates. They are classic "homers" that just say what you want to hear to get you off their backs. They have a hard tiem counting the teal money!

Posted by hawkman1031 (anonymous) on November 26, 2007 at 7:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

what is teal money? do you mean till money?

anyway... I sat in the MU section because when I bought tickets I could not get them from KU. This was three or four months ago and at that time I guess they were not available for some reason, so I easily got them from the MU site. Thought I was plundering them.
Some of the MU fans were rude jerks. One threw ice at me from behind. Others cursed and flipped off out team... and that was before the game even started. Another carried a sign he spent some time writing out, about 3 x 3, which explained why me hates KU. He held it for MU fans to read and then moved on. I only glimpsed something written about Jacque Vaughn. (Thank you Jacque, for whatever you did). In the late 70s when KU played at MU, the band went, and was bombarded by ice and stuff. We didn't go back for 20 years but it was worse then, from what I read. And MU is the only place I have been where they actually booed us. They booed the band! Who does that. They did it again Saturday. Rather than sit politely while the band played, they did their loud chants. This takes me back, not very long ago, when our Bball team beat them by about double, and thorougly slaughtered them. That always provides a warm feeling. And the truth about beating Brad Smith three times in a row that I remember was amazing to me also.

KU played tough, and although it seemed as if the game was out of hand at times, we were in it till the end, and if you make a couple more catches, take away a bad throw or two, or hit a couple of field goals...
and especially, throw the flag when the MU player clearly knocked our receiver off of his spot, that game could have been tied or better. I realize we got a lot of flags on cheater MU, but that call was bad. Coach won't say it, but I will.

This is a great year, and only provides optimism for the future, including the bowl game. There is a lot of pride for this team. We will just have to beat mu next year
(and several times in between in Bball)

Posted by SteelHorseRider (anonymous) on November 26, 2007 at 8:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What a whirlwind regular season. Not enough can be said for the effort this team has displayed. Kudos to Coach Mangino who should be Coach of the Year.

I didn't think it looked even 50-50. Everywhere I looked was lots of nasty yellow & black on display. Even TV announcer Brent "can't keep the BIG 10, I mean 12, Conferences Straight" Musberger was sporting a sicko-looking MU colored coat. Frigging POS.

Posted by actorman (anonymous) on November 26, 2007 at 8:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Some of the MU fans were rude jerks."

I'm shocked, SHOCKED I tell you, that MU fans would be jerks. In all fairness, though, I have to say that the last two KU games I've been at (ISU this year and KSU in 2006) the KU fans booed the band, so I'm surprised you'd ask who does that. It's bad enough for KU fans to boo the KSuck band, but it was RIDICULOUS when they booed the ISU band. (The only good thing is that the ISU band played so well that the same KU fans actually cheered them afterwards.)

As for the game itself, the thing that still sticks in my craw is that we seemed to basically play a prevent defense the entire game, even after it clearly wasn't working. It's like Bill Young was so afraid of MU's speed that he refused to even try doing something different. It would have been nice to see what could have happened if we had played at least a LITTLE closer to the receivers. So that bothered me, and I was also pissed off at the punt coverage at the end. With virtually no chance to return the punt for a TD, and being almost certainly doomed to have to go 80 yards or more in under 20 seconds, there was NO reason that we shouldn't have put all 11 on the line and tried to block the punt--especially given that MU had already had three punts blocked this season.

That being said, I'm thankful for a great season. It's been a wonderful ride, and hopefully KU can close it out with a resounding bowl victory to prove how good we are when completely healthy, and to end up in the top 5.

Posted by shelleysue (anonymous) on November 26, 2007 at 9 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I was disappointed that we seemed to have gone back in time and played conservatively when playing more aggressively has worked all year long. This was not the game to hold back.

I am also disappointed in the entire Arrowhead experience.
We left for the game about 2:00 (we were just a few miles away) and was worried that we would miss kickoff. We were in a virtual standstill in the parking lot for two hours. It was totally brutal. Especially since it gave all the MU fans an opportunity to talk their crap since we had nowhere to go. I was pretty well sick of the entire thing by the time we actually got parked. And the only reason we parked when we did was because we finally drove over curb. Call me a whiner - I really don't care. We should have played the game in Lawrence. Perkins kept trying to convince everyone that the crowd would be 70-75% KU. That wasn't even close. What made him think the Chiefs tickets would be mostly pro KU? That's ridiculous. From the looks of the parking lot and the stadium, the KU fans numbered about 50% - maybe a little more.

I wanted to beat Missouri, no doubt but it's impossible to be very disappointed. We're 11-1 and the season has been A LOT of fun. These kids have played with so much heart, they would inspire anyone. I have been really proud to be a Jayhawk and I can't wait til September 2008!! Right now, I'm anxiously awaiting word of the bowl game and I hope it works out for us to make the trip. Thanks Mangino and Co. and Rock Chalk Jayhawk.

Posted by KU (anonymous) on November 26, 2007 at 9:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Despite the tougher schedule in 08, you have to be optimistic about next year. We have a very high percentage of people returning from the 2 deep on both sides of the ball.

What a catch by Briscoe!

MU was on their game Saturday night, so you've got to hand it to them. Still, if Reesing's throw that was intercepted in the endzone was about 4 or 5 feet left and a bit deeper, we have a real ballgame.

If you told me we would hold MU to 14 first-half points, I would take that any day. The defense gave up a lot of yards, but "holding" MU to "only" 34 points is really very good, especially when Daniel was as "on" as he was all night.

Posted by areyouserious (anonymous) on November 26, 2007 at 10:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The good first, the bad second:

First: Congratulations to the strong-hearted KU players and coaches that never gave up during the entire season filled with doubt from all across the country. There is no question KU is very deserving to be a top 5 team. All KU faithful should hold their heads high and be proud of the accomplishments thus far. Nothing to be ashamed of. This bowl game will be a huge step towards the special season we will have in 2008. Keep up the good work.

Now the rant:
Why does the opposing band even need to be in the stadium??? Its SUPPOSED to be a HOME GAME, that is what home field advantage is all about!!! Lew Perkins completely SOLD his SOUL.............all for money............I don't care if the chiefs give you $10 million per year to play there, we have boosters that are keeping the programs alive. How much is enough?????? I know hindsight is 20/20 but I hope we learned a very costly lesson. THANKS LEW. A rivalry should never be played neutral.

Good Luck to the Hawks in the Bowl game and preparing for another good season in 2008.

Posted by Jayhawk86 (anonymous) on November 26, 2007 at 11:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Areyouserious, Are you serious? What does the band being there have to do with it being a home game? Every team brings a band with them most times. I think there were more band members than fans from ISU. K-State always brings a big band as does Nebraska.

Good teams should be able to play well at a neutral site. I thought this team was gonna be able to pull it off. Once this team gets to that top tier, get ready to play at nuetral sites regularly (Big 12 championsips, and BCS Bowls).

It was a great year, lets be happy for what it was.

Posted by cobweb (anonymous) on November 26, 2007 at 12:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Perkins, based on our history, should have known we would be undefeated and #1 in the BCS and insisted the game be in Lawrence.

Posted by 100 (anonymous) on November 26, 2007 at 5:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Proud to be a Jayhawk. And those Tigers are good. Let's face it, if we had played in the first half like we did in the first half, we would be the #1 team right now gunning for OU. Still, for as poorly as we played most of the game, we were one Aqib Talib punt return from winning the game. There's a reason we didn't drop down to 10 in the BCS, like Oregon and Oklahoma did: nationally, and according to the computers as well, we are still seen as a VERY GOOD top 5 football team. According to the AP articles in the paper today, we are still considered a Dark Horse for the National Championship game if Mizzou and WV both lose. This won't happen of course, as we would also have to leapfrog Georgia (a 2 loss team) but the fact that we are STILL in the discussion should let us know this KU team we saw the entire season was not a Mirage. A great learning experience for the Coaching staff too: Perhaps next time we'll show up to the neutral field a few hours earlier to not look so shell-shocked. ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK!!!

Posted by actorman (anonymous) on November 26, 2007 at 6:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Still, for as poorly as we played most of the game, we were one Aqib Talib punt return from winning the game.
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That was virtually impossible, given that they were punting from a short field. Either they would get more hang time (which they did) or the ball would go in the end zone. There was almost NO chance for Aqib to have a great return. Given those facts, and the fact that MU had already had THREE punts blocked this year, it was a HORRIBLE coaching decision to not rush all 11 and try to block the punt.

As for being a dark horse for the championship, it's really a shame that Georgia's ahead of us. Is there any chance that our schedule strength would go up enough by Mizzou playing Oklahoma a second time that we could then leap over Georgia?

Posted by BCRavenJHawkfan (anonymous) on November 26, 2007 at 8:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It seems many that attended the game did not see what those of us that watched on TV could see. The Jayhawks could not tackle and the kicker choked. You could have easily swapped those Jayhawk uniforms for Chiefs uniforms, both display poor tackling and poor kicking. What a difference the two missed field goals and just one defensive stop would have made.

Posted by 100 (anonymous) on November 27, 2007 at 12:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"There was almost NO chance for Aqib to have a great return."
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You never punt to the other team's fastest man with the game on the line, especially if he has a history of returning punts for TD's. That punt to Talib was a major mistake by Missouri. It wasn't high enough. I'm sure many of their coaches just about had coronaries. Take a look at the replay -- everyone on Missouri's punt coverage was coming up the middle, right at him. And Talib had a full second after he caught it. Talib could have dashed right, cut up the sideline and created havoc. Perhaps not all the way, but who knows? At least it would have been much more interesting.

Posted by nycjayhawk (anonymous) on November 27, 2007 at 9:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I just don't see us leaping Georgia, even if OU beats MU and Pitt as a 28 point dog beats W Va at W Va. Moreover, if LSU or V Tech win their title games, idle KU will get passed by them. So really we need many things to go exactly our way, some help in the human polls, some computer help (remember that Central Michigan also plays for a title this weekend) and divine intervention.

Posted by OhioHawkfan (anonymous) on November 27, 2007 at 5:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Does anyone know why Jake Sharp only had one carry? I only saw him in the game for a play or two. Was he sick or something? He has been a major part of the effectiveness of our offense all season, by giving diversity to the run game. I couldn't understand why he didn't get more touches.

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