Saturday, March 24, 2007

UCLA sends KU packing en route to second straight Final Four


Check back soon for post-game analysis and sound straight from the KU locker room.

From the Associated Press

San Jose - Arron Afflalo will get a second chance to shine in the Final Four - and he earned it by seizing the spotlight when UCLA most needed its leader.

In an exceptional second half that should help erase memories of his past mediocrity in big games, Afflalo scored 15 of his 24 points and the Bruins held off top-seeded Kansas for a 68-55 victory Saturday night in the West Regional championship.

Darren Collison added 14 points and four big free throws in the final seconds while leading the Bruins' stellar defensive effort - but whenever the Bruins faced offensive trouble, Afflalo seemed to solve it, either by hitting a big shot or drawing the defense to set up a teammate.

"I don't really think about it during the game, but when you're making shots, you're gaining confidence," said Afflalo, who was 6-for-6 in the second half. "My teammates showed a lot of confidence in me. Keep shooting, keep playing. That has to be a scorer's mentality."

Second-seeded UCLA (30-5) made its halftime lead stand up in an appropriately tense meeting between two schools with rich traditions and a combined 29 Final Four appearances - including an NCAA-record 17th for UCLA next week in Atlanta.

The Bruins, who lost to Florida in last season's national title game, could be in for a rematch: They'll meet Sunday's winner of the Gators' regional final against Oregon.

"It feels good," Collison said. "We felt that we didn't finish the job last year, so we're going to enjoy this moment, and then go back and try to finish it."

Brandon Rush scored 18 points for the Jayhawks (33-5), the first No. 1 seed to be eliminated from the tournament. Their 14-game winning streak also was snapped in the school's first NCAA tournament loss in California, where this game had a decided home-court feel for the Bruins.

"I think we beat ourselves, but I have to give credit to their defense," said Rush, among several Jayhawks soon to be considering jumps to the NBA. "We just did some dumb stuff - dumb plays on defense and dumb plays on offense. We just had careless turnovers."

The teams combined for 32 steals and 46 turnovers - yet both thought the game wasn't particularly sloppy. Two strong defensive teams collided, but only Afflalo and his teammates had the strength of experience to breakthrough.

"We beat the best team we played all year today," UCLA coach Ben Howland said.

Afflalo's teammates surrounded him in celebration after the buzzer, and the crowd chanted "One more year!" at the smiling junior as he pulled on a commemorative T-shirt and hat.

Though Kansas is loaded with star talent, the Bruins returned with several major contributors to last season's run. That experience showed in every pressure-packed possession between teams that began the season with the Final Four as their only acceptable destination.

Afflalo likely felt more pressure than anyone: The Pac-10 player of the year had a dismaying habit of disappearing in big games.

Fan reactions

Dan Skolink, Cristalle Jones, Corey Sargent and Emily Carkhuff react to the KU loss.

Afflalo struggled in both of the Bruins' Final Four contests last season, scoring a combined 19 points against LSU and Florida. He managed just three points in this season's conference tournament loss to California, and he was ineffective for long stretches of the Bruins' last two victories in this tournament.

He had no such trouble Saturday, hitting a series of clutch baskets in the second half, with a dwindling shot clock and UCLA nursing a lead: A 3-pointer as the shot clock expired with 10 minutes to play, or an acrobatic driving layup with 7 1/2 minutes left. Collison chipped in with another 3-pointer to beat the shot clock with 4:43 left.

"We had our best defenders on him, but he's a good player," said Kansas coach Bill Self, who has failed to win a regional final in four tries at three different schools. "I don't want to appear frustrated. We missed our free throws, and they didn't defend us on those. They just had some guys step up and make some plays. After they got the lead, they played poised."

UCLA scored six straight points on free throws before Luc Richard Mbah a Moute's celebratory dunk with 24 seconds to play.

The Bruins edged ahead of North Carolina in Final Four appearances - the Tar Heels have 16 going into Sunday's East Regional final against Georgetown - and improved to 5-0 against Kansas in the NCAA tournament.

UCLA also has back-to-back 30-win seasons for the first time since 1972-73.

The San Jose Sharks' hockey rink was filled with Bruins fans, both from the big Bay Area alumni base and those who made the drive north from Westwood. UCLA fed off the support and Howland's usual bombastic, foot-stomping performance on the sideline, playing with remarkable defensive energy.

The clubs traded the lead through a predictably close first half. UCLA made a 14-4 run to take a 35-31 lead when Josh Shipp hit a 3-pointer at the buzzer.

Shipp, who missed last season's UCLA run because of hip surgery, pumped his fist and bumped chests with Afflalo as they headed to the locker room behind the Bruins band.

Update #11: Final, UCLA wins 68-55

San Jose, Calif. - UCLA started playing kee-away after a KU timeout, and Julian Wright fouled Arron Afflalo, sending him to the line for a one-and-one. He hit one of two, and a Mario Chalmers miss gave the ball back to UCLA, and Darren Collison hit two more free throws. A Julian Wright tip-in pulled KU back within eight with :45.1 left.

Afflalo's hot hand, especially starting late in the first half with UCLA's 12-2 run to close out the first stanza, led him to a game-high 24 points. Darren Collison had 14 for the Bruins, including a bunch of late key free throws. Brandon Rush had 18 for KU, with only four of them coming in the second half. Russell Robinson had 11. KU ends the season 33-5 overall, having won both the regular season and tournament titles in the Big 12, reaching the Elite Eight for the second time in four years under Bill Self. The loss snapped a 14-game winning streak for KU, who had not lost a game since falling 69-66 to Texas A&M; on Feb. 3.

Update #10: 1:36, second half, UCLA leads 60-51

San Jose, Calif. - Russell Robinson went hard to the basket after the timeout and drew the fourth foul on Alfred Aboya, getting himself to the free throw line. But KU's woes from there continued. He hit just one of two, and KU then applied a full-court press, which forced a turnover right off the bat.

Chalmers let it go right back with Mbah a Moute forcing a turnover. Russell Robinson was then called for two light fouls on Darren Collison, and a foul whistled on Brandon Rush gave KU six team fouls in the second half.

KU forced a turnover under the basket, but Sherron Collins was wiped away by Mbah a Moute, and a foul on Darrell Arthur up top put UCLA in the bonus up by seven with 1:36 left. Collison stepped to the line and easily swished two, putting UCLA up by a daunting nine points with 1:36 left.

Update #9: 3:10, second half, UCLA leads 58-50

San Jose, Calif. - KU turned the ball over out of another timeout, which has become a common theme in the second half, but UCLA handed it right back. That was followed with Darnell Jackson leafing it away in the lane and allowing the Bruins to slow things down with the game under the seven-minute mark.

Ben Howland then called a timeout for UCLA, but the Bruins made it four straight turnovers in the game afterwards. Darrell Arthur answered by corralling a pass inside and scoring for the second time in the game.

Julian Wright was then called for his first foul with 5:55 left, sending Alfred Aboya to the line for UCLA, where the sophomore big man hit both and put the Bruins back up eight.

Russell Robinson came back with a three on a kick-out by Mario Chalmers, cutting UCLA's lead to five with just over that many minutes to go. Darren Collison answered with a prayer of a three, nearly slipping on the floor, with the shot clock expiring and bringing the HP Pavilion to a deafening tone.

Mario Chalmers then missed his first three-point attempt of the game, and Darrell Arthur's second chance fading in the lane missed as well, giving UCLA a chance to melt the clock some, and the Bruins turned it over just before the shot clock ran dry.

Update #8: 7:30, second half, UCLA leads 53-45

San Jose, Calif. - KU turned the ball over out of the timeout, and Michael Roll was fouled in transition going up for a layup. He missed both of his free throws though. KU couldn't respond, as Sherron Collins air-balled a three look. Brandon Rush answered back for KU with a floater in the lane, making it a six-point game.

Arron Afflalo hit a three with the shot clock expiring and his body floating to the left atop the key to get a burst out of the UCLA crowd, but Russell Robinson came right back with a trey of his own. Afflalo hit again in response, this time with two atop the key, giving him 21 points on the night. Josh Shipp followed it with a block of Mario Chalmers, but UCLA couldn't bump the lead from eight in transition. Instead, Darren Collison was called for his second foul after missing a tough layup.

Lorenzo Mata was then called for his fourth foul of the game, sending him back to the bench for the second time in the second half. He got Darnell Jackson while going up down the baseline. Jackson sank both charities, making it a six-point game yet again.

KU got a chance to extend its push after a UCLA turnover on the sideline, but Darrell Arthur missed on the baseline. Afflalo, who was rested for 30 seconds, then spun one in off the glass with the shot clock again getting near zero, keeping UCLA's cushion at eight. Afflalo has 23 points.

Update #7: 11:29, second half, UCLA leads 46-38

San Jose, Calif. - Julian Wright missed his free throws out of the timeout, making KU just 2-of-7 from the stripe in the contest.

Russell Westbrook pushed UCLA's lead back out to nine points moments later by knifing into the lane from the wing, stopping and laying it in easily.

Brandon Rush and Darrell Arthur then both missed shots inside off the rim, and the ball was squeezed out under the glass by UCLA. Afflalo gave himself seven second half points inside, putting UCLA up 46-35 with 13:20 to go and forced Bill Self to call his second timeout of the half.

Rush came out of the timeout to hit his second three-pointer of the game, making it an eight-point contest and giving himself 14 of KU's 38 points so far. Chalmers then swiped a UCLA pass under the hoop, but this time Rush's three look missed long.

The Bruins turned it over for the second straight possession, this time with Michael Roll losing the ball off of his lower body on the sideline. Julian Wright returned the favor, though, making an unnecessary pass inside while in mid-air which went off of Darrell Arthur and out of bounds.

UCLA couldn't take advantage, and a ball out of bounds sent the game into another break.

Update #6: 15:05, second half, UCLA leads 42-35

San Jose, Calif. - Lorenzo Mata wound up taking an ugly shot from the left wing on the second half's first possession, with KU's defense milking the shot clock nearly empty. Mata then got his third foul of the game, sending him to the bench less than a minute into the half.

Mario Chalmers then turned the ball over for the third time in the game trying a fancy pass to Brandon Rush on the perimeter. Darren Collison was then forced into an awkward-looking shot of his own, sending the ball back to KU. This time, Chalmers was blocked in the lane by Alfred Aboya, and Arron Afflalo extended UCLA's lead to six in transition with two off the glass. Chalmers came back to follow misses by Rush and Wright for his first field goal of the game.

Chalmers then got a steal, but on a give-and-go in a two-on-one situation with Julian Wright, KU turned it over yet again. Afflalo came back to hit a three, as his hot hand from the first half has carried over, crossing up Rush and stepping back with the shot clock melting, making it 40-33, UCLA.

KU couldn't score after a Bill Self timeout, and Lorenzo Mata scored his first points of the game following up a Josh Shipp missed dunk to put UCLA up by nine. Julian Wright finally answered for KU with two points inside while flopping to the floor.

Wright then picked a ball off the hands of Darren Collison and was fouled going up in transition, leading the game to a full break.

Update #5: Halftime, UCLA leads 35-31

Brandon Rush was called for an offensive foul out of the timeout while trying to slip a pass to the baseline for Darnell Jackson. Afflalo then put UCLA ahead with a pull-up jumper down the left wing, giving him seven points on the night.

Rush then lost the ball and had it swiped by Joash Shipp, but it came right back to KU thanks to a travel call on Mbah a Moute.

Rush missed again on a drive, shorting it off the iron, and Afflalo scored again to put UCLA on top 32-29, forcing Bill Self into a timeout with just under two minutes left in the first half.

Mario Chalmers missed on a drive out of the timeout, and Darnell Jackson's follow wasn't true either. Jackson, though, was fouled near the rim, but missed both free throws, sending the ball back with the Bruins.

Darren Collison missed a three at the one-minute mark, and Brandon Rush swooped in for a one-handed dunk down the right baseline, pulling KU back within one. The Bruins were called for an offensive foul, giving KU a chance to re-claim the lead. Russell Robinson had a layup fall off the rim, though, and UCLA held for the last shot of the half.

Josh Shipp sank a three in the corner at the buzzer, giving him eight points in the half and UCLA a 35-31 lead at the break. Arron Afflalo led UCLA with nine points, and Darren Collison had seven. Brandon Rush leads all scorers with 11, while Darnell Jackson has put together six.

Update #4: 3:23, first half, KU leads 29-28

San Jose, Calif - Lorenzo Mata, just a 37.9 percent free throw shooter on the season, missed two right out of a timeout, but the rebound went out of bounds off of Russell Robinson. Mbah a Moute then missed a three, rebounded by Brandon Rush.

Rush rolled in a two on the baseline on a nifty dish from Julian Wright to put KU back up by three. UCLA then tunred it back over on a long possession, and Rush made it a six-point game with a three atop the key following a Julian Wright missed dunk.

Ben Howland called for a timeout, and his team couldn't score on the possession out of it, with Afflalo and Shipp both missing threes. KU turned it over on the other end, and Josh Shipp then earned his way to the free throw line among the trees underneath the hoop.

Shipp hit both charities, making it a four-point game again, 27-23. He then rebounded a Mario Chalmers miss, but turned it over in transition, with Brandon Rush taking it away and missing a floater in the lane. Darnell Jackson followed it with a two-handed dunk and was fouled by UCLA's Lorenzo Mata in the process. Jackson's free throw missed, but KU still grasped to a six-point lead.

Michael Roll scored his first points of the game on a three atop the key, and it was followed by a Brandon Rush miss from the free throw line. Alfred Aboya then made it a one-point game for the Bruins inside on a pass from Luc Richard Mbah a Moute.

Update #3: 7:54, first half, KU leads 22-21

San Jose, Calif. - Afflalo was blocked on a three-point attempt by Rush for the second time out of the timeout, and a shot clock violation led to Darnell Jackson hitting a turnaround jumper on the right side, putting KU up by five. Darren Collison cut it to two points with his first three of the game, followed by a Josh Shipp steal. Mbah a Moute tied it on the baseline moments later. KU snatched the lead right back with Chalmers floating an alley-oop to Darnell Jackson for a two-handed throwdown.

Russell Robinson extended it to a four-point KU advantage on a feed from Julian Wright off of a steal, and then came a pick of an entry pass by Darnell Jackson. Jackson, though, was called for going over the back on the other end, sending the ball back with UCLA.

Josh Shipp then canned his first three of the game for UCLA, followed by a steal in the open court by UCLA freshman Russell Westbrook. He took it in for a two-handed dunk, putting the Bruins on top 21-20 and forcing Bill Self to call a 30-second timeout.

Sasha Kaun took a dish from Mario Chalmers right from the break and fed it in easily off the glass, and KU had a chance to extend the lead with a Julian Wright jumper off of another steal, but it missed off the front iron.

Update #2: 11:59, first half, KU leads 14-11

San Jose, Calif. - Russell Robinson picked the pocket of Josh Shipp right out of the game's first media break, sending the ball back with the Jayhawks. After a tie-up paused the possession and kept the ball with KU, Darrell Arthur missed a shot in the lane, pulled down by UCLA.

UCLA sent it right back with KU, as the shot clock was winding down and solid KU defense forced an errant pass form Afflalo over the head of Mbah a Moute.

Darren Collison broke UCLA's drought with a knifing bank in the lane following a Sherron Collins miss, and it was followed with a Collins turnover and his first foul of the game afterwards.

Josh Shipp missed his first three-point attempt of the game, and Mario Chalmers then three a half-court alley-oop pass to Arthur, who banked it in for his first points of the game.

Update #1: 14:33, first half, KU leads 12-9

San Jose, Calif. - Darren Collison controlled the opening tip for UCLA, swinging the ball right to Arron Afflalo. After getting his first look blocked, he got a tip from Lorenzo Mata and spilled one in from the lane, putting UCLA up 2-0.

KU tried to attack the basket to start, but to no avail, with Sasha Kaun and Brandon Rush each missing close-range looks. Rush's second attempt at finding a crease near the rack drew a foul on lorenzo Mata. Rush sank both, tying it up early.

Rush then partially tipped an Afflalo three from the right wing off of an inbounds pass, but Julian Wright turned it over on the other end, turning into a Collison layup in the open court. Wright made up for it, throwing an alley-oop to Sasha Kaun, who threw it down with his back to the basket with two hands.

Luc Richard Mbah a Moute got involved for the Bruins after that, backing Wright down inside and hitting a baseline turnaround, putting UCLA back up by two. It was followed by Darren Collison's first foul of the game, called for a push against Russell Robinson.

Wright tied it up with a baseline jumper for his first bucket of the game. With Brandon Rush slipping on the floor, though, Afflalo hit the game's first three pointer in the corner. Rush came right back for two inside, giving him four points early on.

Wright put KU on top 10-9 with a floater after cutting under the basket for an entry pass, giving him four points early as well in a high-scoring set of opening minutes. UCLA followed it with a turnover, and Robinson followed up a Brandon Rush missed jumper while falling towards the floor, putting KU up by three.

Following a Ben Howland timeout, Sherron Collins and Darrell Arthur checked into the game for KU. Darren Collison was then blocked on a drive to the hoop with the shot clock expiring out of the break, but KU was called for three seconds on the other end.


San Jose, Calif. - For the second time in a week, traditional powers meet in a 'survive and advance' setting.

Last weekend, it was Kansas University ousting Kentucky in an NCAA Tournament second round contest in Chicago. And after KU escaped its first Tourney scare Thursday with a 61-58 win over Southern Illinois, the Jayhawks take on two-seed UCLA today in the West Regional final in San Jose's HP Pavilion.

The matchup everyone will be watching will be between KU's 6-foot-6 sophomore wing, Brandon Rush, and UCLA's go-to guy, 6-foot-5 junior Arron Afflalo. Afflalo led UCLA with 17 points in a win over Pittsburge Thursday night, while Rush hit a shot in the lane off the glass in the waning seconds to give KU all the separation it needed from SIU.


Kaw Pickinton 14 years, 8 months ago

"Is it possible to take away Kaun's scholarship?"

Piss off!

countryjayhawk 14 years, 8 months ago

I agree Mario looked extremely gun-shy tonight, i was waiting on Self to take him out and sit him down and tell him start shooting or sit on the bench

jhbooks 14 years, 8 months ago

This one has me nervous before it even begins. Jayhawks rule!!

rgreene 14 years, 8 months ago

How loud is this game on T.V.? Because it's loud as hell here.

stujayhawk 14 years, 8 months ago

We came out strong and our players look hungry going into the first time-out.

UCLA players are working harder for their shots and the officials are letting the players play which is a good thing for us.

Let's keep it up.


stujayhawk 14 years, 8 months ago

rgreene, it's really loud on TV. At first it sounded like the UCLA fans were drowning you out. What is the ratio there?

RckChalkJeff 14 years, 8 months ago

Whats wrong with Wright tonight? Seems tight or something. Maybe just nerves.....


Michael Foulston 14 years, 8 months ago

I just love how Bilas ignores the two or three turnovers he's made by trying to dribble and loving the one break where he dished to RussRob. I think he's just a little juiced and needs to not try to do everything himself. He should have pulled that last one back out and let the offense get set up, IMHO.

Michael Class of '93

Chris Shaw 14 years, 8 months ago

The good thing about this game is that I'm not impressed with UCLA. We are definitely the better team. We need to take our time out of those double teams. Costly Turnovers.

Chris Shaw 14 years, 8 months ago

We have to have a 6 or 8 point lead with 5 minutes to go in this game b/c the refs will find a way to give it to the hometown UCLA crowd.

jhbooks 14 years, 8 months ago

Perhaps Rush will be the go to guy tonight. Wright looks out of it...hope it is just nerves

Chris Shaw 14 years, 8 months ago

Bill Walton Alert: He's be shown twice up to this point.

Michael Foulston 14 years, 8 months ago


Okay, I'm absolutely a Coke over Pepsi kinda guy, but did Coke write in the contract that the announcer has to act surprised when the big red bar comes up on the bottom of the screen? Very irritating. Moreso than the whiny UNC fan from last night...

Michael Class of '93

Chris Shaw 14 years, 8 months ago

Damn it! We got to help or get over those double screens during the 3 point shots in the corner.

jonas 14 years, 8 months ago

Man, if Julian Wright ever wakes up completely this game is over.

Michael Foulston 14 years, 8 months ago


I pay about as much attention to women's bball as I do to curling, but is it wrong that I just felt a tingle seeing that the Duke women lost to Rutgers and are out of the women's tourney?

jhbooks 14 years, 8 months ago

Jackson is such a joy to watch. His energy hopefully will be infectious. Let Wright sit for awhile.

Michael Foulston 14 years, 8 months ago

I'm with you on the screens kushaw. I have not been loving the way we've been trying to get around thema ll night. Rush is doing a hellva job recoving on Affalo. Need to get that 2nd foul on him...

Michael Class of '93

KURUSH1530 14 years, 8 months ago

How many times are we going to see a bad pass to the high post out of the double team down low? Does it look like the refs are letting us get away with some foul calls that will more than likely be called late in the game?

Chris Shaw 14 years, 8 months ago

Unbelievable: UCLA is up 3 and I don't know how their up 3. We're not captializing on any of their mistakes and that is going to cost us in this game. I'm still not impressed with UCLA team. They are definitely soft. Not hitting our bunny shots is killing us. FINISH AT THE RIM!

Chris Shaw 14 years, 8 months ago

We can dunk, but we can't finish lay-ups. Let's go hawks. We got this second half.

jhbooks 14 years, 8 months ago

Hope Self has the right words to say to the team. Behind by four. Just seems like we are letting this one slip away.

Chris Shaw 14 years, 8 months ago

First half analysis: Kansas University gave UCLA the first half. We are actually playing very well. Not hitting freakin lay ups and captailizing on their mistakes is killing us. I've never been this confident in how bad a team is more so than UCLA. Yet, we're down 4 at the half. I'm vexed, I'm completely vexed.

maddy_mariana 14 years, 8 months ago

Is it just me or do the UCLA cheerleaders look like cheap...barbies? And the band's hawaiian shirts look real nice...not! GO HAWKS!!!

Michael Foulston 14 years, 8 months ago

Yep...we've missed some bunnies and made some dumb turnovers and haven't defended against the screens very well. Relatively minor issues, except for the screens. Some halftime adjustments and I think we can take this one.

That was one quick half, too. Or maybe it just felt that way...

Michael Class of '93

jayhawkinATL 14 years, 8 months ago

How many bunny shots can we f-ing miss?!?! We should be up by at least 10.

Chris Shaw 14 years, 8 months ago

93jayhawk: I think that was the quickest half, I've ever witnessed. I've never had this feeling before. I'm actually pleased with the way we've played to some extent, but I'm completely in shock that we're down 4. I'm completely baffled.

kuhawksr1 14 years, 8 months ago

Ditto kushaw! Unbelievable. They've got to FINISH!!! We finish and UCLA is down 8 to 12 at half! We've got to keep the crowd out of it.

BigTamale 14 years, 8 months ago

Easier said than done:

Make Layups Make Freethrows Rebound Stop (contain) their 3 Guards More Points in the paint

Chris Shaw 14 years, 8 months ago

Is it me or the more this game goes forward, the more "My Hate Factor" for UCLA increases.

Chris Shaw 14 years, 8 months ago

Has anyone noticed how big Bil Walton's teeth are? Their enormous!

jared1426 14 years, 8 months ago

tha half-time report just said KU was fortunate to not be down by more...did they watch the game? UCLA is fortunate to not be down by 20!

Michael Foulston 14 years, 8 months ago

Looking at the boxscore and thinking back on the 1st half, UCLA is getting too many easy baskets. They are 9-14 on 2pt shots. KU continues to give up that kind of percentage due to easy buckets in transition, it will be trouble. Gotta take care of the basketball.

Michael Class of '93

stujayhawk 14 years, 8 months ago

Wright has been out of it the entire tournament.

I like the comment earlier about being unimpressed with UCLA.

He is right, we are the better team. But we have to hit the easy buckets, wether we are fouled or not.

Chris Shaw 14 years, 8 months ago

20 minutes of Pressure "D". We got to go get it! Need to finish and get a lead going into the last 5 minutes. A close game does not bowl well for this environment. I'm still not nervous b/c I'm loving our effort, but you can't win on effort along. God, I can taste this. I want to go to Atlanta so badly. I have tickets lined up and everything.

RckChalkJeff 14 years, 8 months ago

We'll be okay.....second half is all ours!

btw....i like the stripper / cheerleader outfits..... has helped to curb my growing hatred for UCLA!

foxy101 14 years, 8 months ago

KANSAS RULES!!!! We have the courage and the skill to win this game all we have to do is lock down and get going. GO HAWKS!!!!

Chris Shaw 14 years, 8 months ago

This UCLA team is no match for Texas or Texas A&M. We have the experience and I hope we can come through. I agree "Foxy 101". I hate this feeling I have, but I"m glad we're playing in this game.

Lance Hobson 14 years, 8 months ago

Screw Bill Walton. We need to make some layups and short shots. Gotta hit those free throws. We're in it, our defense is smothering. We can do this!

Chris Shaw 14 years, 8 months ago

I hope Self can correct those staggered screens at half. As soon as we start helping with our "Bigs" we got to be careful of the slip screens. Just a thought.

DerekR25 14 years, 8 months ago

Yeah, I'm pretty confident about this game. There's no question who has the better defense. 9 STEALS already!!! We just have to calm down and take our time on offense because we're absolutely killing them with our passing. I liked the reverse baseline pass out of the post double team on Mario. I think I like that better than trying to pass back out to the high post. And they haven't been able to get anything on us offensively without us giving it to them by not communicating on screens. Clean up our offense and it will suffocate theirs because they've mainly scored on us in transition. Guard the screen better as well and we win by at least 10. Rock Chalk Jayhawk!!!! 2nd half is OURS!!!!!

Chris Shaw 14 years, 8 months ago

5 of 13 from 3 for UCLA. We got this Game! Go Jayhawks! Go Jayhawks! Go Jayhawks! Please Go Jayhawks!

Michael Foulston 14 years, 8 months ago

The foul on Mata was one of the first times that UCLA has done a poor job on a switch. They've been doing a great job of pushing us out on a hedge without allowing us to pick'n'roll properly.

Michael Class of '93

Chris Shaw 14 years, 8 months ago

Now I'm bleeping pissed! This is feakin ridicoulous. Story of this game. Missed lay-ups!

DerekR25 14 years, 8 months ago

Well, if that man gets going, well have to be really good down the stretch

More of the same carelessness with the ball and not finishing strong. Our guys need to realize and start showing that they are better than those West Coast softies.

jayloco 14 years, 8 months ago

Wow, we have missed a TON of opportunities at easy layup baskets. Hate to say it, but our guards are definitely meeting their match thus far in this one. Chalmers and Wright need to step up and provide some assistance to Rush, and the bigs down low, or this could get out of hand. Let's go Hawks.

jayloco 14 years, 8 months ago

lay up after lay up. Maybe it's time to go bizarro world. Since we can't hit the easy layups, let's start to look for the open 3's. We only have 1 3 pt basket today right? Seems like there is a freakin lid on that basket for us...

DerekR25 14 years, 8 months ago

I'd like to know where the drive and dish has gone? One of our guards is bound to get hot from outside. I don't think we've even attempted any threes outside of Brandon's one make. We're shooting 100% from three, but we've only tried it once. That would definitely open up the middle. I think we should go back to what we're best at and not trying to force layups in the paint. Cuz we keep getting stripped or mugged.

Michael Foulston 14 years, 8 months ago

We've only taken 1 3pter. We're beating UCLA's guards just fine on the perimeter, but they are getting great help defense from their post players, and we need to be dishing instead of getting blocked and missing highly contested layups.

Michael Class of '93

jayloco 14 years, 8 months ago

You are preaching to the choir Jay Bilas! Free throws, lay ups, etc. Tough day thus far for our boys.

jayloco 14 years, 8 months ago

Only thing I can think of is that their guards are rotating extremely quickly and maybe we are worried about them picking off the dishes out to the perimeter...

Michael Foulston 14 years, 8 months ago

As aggressive as they are being pursuing around screens and helping, we've got to be able to find some back-cuts somewhere...

Michael Class of '93

Chris Shaw 14 years, 8 months ago

What's wrong with coming off that screen and popping a 3. We've done it all year and now we're driving to the basket into traffic making turnovers. Doesn't make sense!

Michael Foulston 14 years, 8 months ago

Yeah...I don't know what's up with that...and where's the hold on the roubound that wasn't by Jackson. grrrrr...

jayhawkinATL 14 years, 8 months ago

Chamlers and Wright are STINKING it up out there!!!!

jayhawkinATL 14 years, 8 months ago

How many times to we have to see Chalmers slip and hit the deck?!?!

Michael Foulston 14 years, 8 months ago

Chalmers is keeping us in this game on the defensive end and nobody looks good on the offensive end. Maybe more 3's from RussRob...I don't think Chalmers has attempted one. The guards keep slipping these hedged switches and driving the lane, but have nothing to do when they get there. The spacing is off or something...I can't figure it out, but if we can start turning that sh*t into points, we'll be fine.

Michael Class of '93

ophawks 14 years, 8 months ago

Hate to say it but we need a big big man because Kauns not getting it done, Jacksons good but not always consistent.

jayhawkinATL 14 years, 8 months ago

Three feet from the bucket and you pass it?!?!

Theutus 14 years, 8 months ago

We deserve to lose as crappy as we're playing... We've straight handed the ball over how many times now?

jayloco 14 years, 8 months ago

Come on Bill and the boys. Time to stop penetrating the whole way to the paint. Some nice pull up 14 footers are in order fellas.

BigTamale 14 years, 8 months ago

When they make 3 buzzer beating 3's like that its their day...

jayloco 14 years, 8 months ago

Man, what a crushing 3 by Afflalo. We cut it to 5 and a chance to get the ball back and he sticks it in our eye. Dude has lived up to his pre-game hype. Story of missed opps. 3 minutes to go boys. Give em' hell and at least make them earn it at the end.

Michael Foulston 14 years, 8 months ago

You might be on to something jayloco...taking it to the rack certainly isn't working...

Michael Class of '93

jayloco 14 years, 8 months ago

Come on Hawks. If this one ends like it probably should, there will be a lot of restless Hawk fans tonight. Maybe UCLA played their game, but we certainly caved and played less than our best game. Chalmers picked again. WOW....

CindiCat 14 years, 8 months ago

They are KILLIN me for goodness sakes!!!!

jayhawkinATL 14 years, 8 months ago

What the FUH???? What does Collins think he's going to do against the trees????

jayloco 14 years, 8 months ago

Very frustrating. My hat is off to UCLA. Completely denying our every move in the paint.

Michael Foulston 14 years, 8 months ago

Well, we're insane this game. We keep doing the same thing and expecting different results. We can't keep taking it to the rack with our guards, because their interior guys are way too athletic for our guards to score on consistently. We needed to be pounding it in there with Jackson and Kaun, I think. This one's a bit on the players for not figuring it out for themselves, and some on Self for not telling them to do something other than trying to take it to the rack.

Desperation time now boys. Make the plays or come home to Lawrence.

Michael Class of '93

jayhawkinATL 14 years, 8 months ago

This was our BEST chance...Rush is gone!!!!!

BigTamale 14 years, 8 months ago

Oh well guys...

Its been fun, lets hope Brandon decides come back and become a junior.

We should be pretty sick next year.

Next year we kick down the door!!

ophawks 14 years, 8 months ago

Its too bad we couldnt make more of these easy layup like buckets and free throws. Seems like thats the same thing every year... free throws and easy shots.

jonas 14 years, 8 months ago

A disappointing game, but a good season. At least we lost to a good team.

. . . that hit rediculously lucky threes. How many times will that sort of thing happen? Not often.

Theutus 14 years, 8 months ago

UCLA a good team? UCLA is the most over-rated team in the tournament.

It's embarrassing to lose a game like this because we played so horrible. Then again every year is like this.

Michael Foulston 14 years, 8 months ago

The second half, those shots weren't easy, not that they were exactly uncontested in the first half, but yeah, we've got to make 'em, or figure out that a 10-12' open jumper is a better option. Sht.*t....well, half-court offense killed us today. Couldn't get the buckets on a consistent basis...sheeite...14/33 on layups and dunks...pathetic.

Time for the mantra! Just wait 'til next year!

Michael Class of '93

gbr34 14 years, 8 months ago

Jayhawks just a team full of flashy, highlight-reel players. No consistency, grit, or toughness.

ophawks 14 years, 8 months ago

Great season though, I almost think Rush will stick around just because his draft status. We'll see whose looking better next year UCLA and have fun with Florida.

CindiCat 14 years, 8 months ago

Holy Cat Jack...........Of all the #1 seeds, I sure as heck didn't want it to be US to be the first to go out of the tournament.

Now, I could care a royal rip less as to who wins the whole shootin match.

Don't like Ohio State, can't stand Florida and don't EVEN get me started on NC.

Oh well......there is next year.

Still LOVE the Jayhawks.

jayloco 14 years, 8 months ago

Theutus-Wow man, that's a strong statement. They are the same team that with to the Final last year. You have to give it up for Holand and the Bruins. One of the best defensive performance vs. a KU team in a long time, AND they shot better than 50% vs. us. Tough night..

BigTamale 14 years, 8 months ago

This goes out to every SPORTS FAN...

I ask the question: NOW WHAT??????

What occupies your offseason?

jayhawkinATL 14 years, 8 months ago

Didn't anyone tell our players that we NEED THREES???? How many f-ing times did we drive the lane in the last minute????

stujayhawk 14 years, 8 months ago

how the hell do you miss that many lay ups and dunks?

jonas 14 years, 8 months ago

"Posted by Theutus (anonymous) on March 24, 2007 at 8:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)

UCLA a good team? UCLA is the most over-rated team in the tournament.

It's embarrassing to lose a game like this because we played so horrible. Then again every year is like this."

Well, too bad we don't have you in there, then. I'm sure you'd do really well.

Elite 8 = 1st round loss? Hmmm. . . . .

I suppose that if by "same" then you mean, we didn't win the national championship, then I suppose that you're right. But I'll tell you a little secret, that it doesn't seem like you are aware of: winning the championship, by beating every other team in the NCAA. . . it's hard. Very hard to do. So hard, in fact, that each year only one single team does it. So be bitter if you want to waste your energy.

Michael Foulston 14 years, 8 months ago

Shut it gbr. A soft team does not come back against UT twice and survive the SIU game. I hate to sound too much like kushaw, but where were the adjustments tonight? UCLA defended every screen we did exactly the same way and we did exactly the same thing every time. And it just didn't work. Someone needs to make an adjustment, and I think that falls on the coach. I don't know what sort of adjustment you make there, I'm not that knowledgeable, but I'm not coaching them*t!

Michael Class of '93

Brian Conrad 14 years, 8 months ago


ku98 14 years, 8 months ago

Well, this is it.
We missed way too many lay-ups and free throws. Add that to UCLA's clutch shots and great defense, and the season is over... I hope everyone stays. They could all use another year in college before jumping to the NBA, but I am afraid Brandon and Julian won't pass up an opportunity to be first rounders in the draft. Sad end to our season. Kudos to UCLA.

foxy101 14 years, 8 months ago

Theutus is not a true fan if your going to act like kansas sucks all the time then why do you even bother following them you need to pick another team.

jayhawkinATL 14 years, 8 months ago

Come on...let's all be realistic...Rush did not hit the books this semester so he could stick around.

kuhawksr1 14 years, 8 months ago

This team looked like sh*t today! How many freakin bone head plays can they actually complete in one game. Defensive rebounds through our hands and out of bounds, drives to the basket not protecting the ball, point blank shots not hitting the backboard. They don't run plays? We have players who make plays? No go to guy? All can step up at any minute? Bunch of BS boys!! This is a MAJOR disappointment. Absolutely unacceptable they were that flat. I'm not about to credit UCLA with it. UCLA launched prayers and every one got answered.

Dale Koch 14 years, 8 months ago

what kind of coach sits there and lets these idiots drive the lane when you are down by 10 for g_ds sake

Brian Conrad 14 years, 8 months ago

Can not believe no outside attempts, even with them triple on lane yep bill keep going to the lane

stujayhawk 14 years, 8 months ago

I swear to god...


jayhawkinATL 14 years, 8 months ago

This honestly was our best shot at the title.

jayloco 14 years, 8 months ago

As easy as it is to be negative about tonight and dog the Hawks for their play. I am going to try and stay positive. I for one, think it was a successful season. A Big XII regular season championship, a BIG XII conference tourney championship, and an Elite 8 appearance. I just wish we could have brought an "A" performance tonight. Oh well, the Hawks saved me 5 or 6 hundred bucks on a trip to Atlanta. Damn, this one was disappointing. I hope everyone returns, but the one guy I think might leave, JW, is the one guy I think we can afford to lose. I think DA could fill in his spot rather adequately with a year's seasoning under his belt. Oh well

gbr34 14 years, 8 months ago


yeah you really do sound like kushaw

Dale Koch 14 years, 8 months ago

What a huge disappointment. I hope Wright and Rush both leave. And what's up with that stupid play of Chalmers. Why wouldn't he launch a 3 for g_d's sake?

whitsterman 14 years, 8 months ago

Self should have seen we obviously weren't making layups worth a sh*t, so he should have told them to take the 3. First time this year that i wasn't impressed with the adjustments he made after half time. Still the boys should have made their layups and free throws, we beat ourselves, they didn't beat us. I still think we are the better team. Go Hawks!!! And i hope Rush comes back another year, he isn't ready.

jayhawkinATL 14 years, 8 months ago

<p> has Julian as the No. 5 pick...think he's gone too.

Brian Conrad 14 years, 8 months ago

think bill is still looking for ucla to foul out? everyone could see make adjustments ... not bill! drive the lane only 30th time it has not worked ... hmmmm maybe one attempt just a little earlier than 30 seconds into clock???

Matthew Goble 14 years, 8 months ago

Stop complaining. We didn't play our best -- so what. We were 33-5 this year. Do you know how many fans would love for their team to have that record. We are spoiled as Jayhawk fans. It is unrealistic to expect much more than what we got this year.

And Julian Wright is coming back -- read yesterday's article from ESPN.

BorderRat 14 years, 8 months ago

Out Coached and out played. UCLA adjusted their game plan mid way in the first half and quit trying to run and take quick shots. We did nothing to adjust. When's the last time we only made 14 of 33 chip shots inside? By the way, is something wrong with Khan? He played well in the limited time he was in.

Steve Jacob 14 years, 8 months ago

Best team won. Thursday should have been a warning sign. UCLA easily beat a very good team (Pitt) and we struggled against a less talented/slow version of UCLA (SIU).

Good season. Next year should be good, aslong as we "only" lose 1 or 2 players. Teams ahead of us like Florida and Ohio St. will lose more then we do.

Brian Conrad 14 years, 8 months ago

Rush played like a man Julian was way off.. 5th pick you are dreamin .. 5th out of big 12

kfdietz 14 years, 8 months ago

how bad was julian tonight? and for that matter, how bad has he been in the past two games? unbelievable, he and mario better spend some time this offseason working on their ballhandling, because they absolutely were torn apart by an overrated UCLA team....arthur and collins were once again terrible, not exactly sure what has happened to those two...rush needs to stay another year, b/c even if he is a first rounder, he isnt good enough to last very long...KU needs some sort of inside presence on offense, b/c as it was clearly shown tonight, our guards cannot shoulder the load night in and night out...the two bright spots out of this game were the continuing good play of robinson and jackson, but other than that, it was wholeheartedly disappointing. heres to next year....

truefan 14 years, 8 months ago

honestly i don't know if going into the lane was the game plan, but if you are going to go down low then you should be throwing it in to the big men, not driving the lane with the guards. the paint should have been ours, but only if it was our big men taking the shots down there. i really think UCLA hit some opportune threes that shouldn't have fallen and that changed the game. everytime we had some momentum they smashed it with a fade away three. we went down to last years runner up and we can't really feel too bad about that. i don't like to watch us lose, but with UCLA having home court advantage and more experience, we didn't have much of a chance.

Dale Koch 14 years, 8 months ago

what does not hitting the books have to do with whether Rush stays or not? Wouldn't that be a reason for him to just leave? I don't get that remark at all.

mjvjhawks 14 years, 8 months ago

Someone answer these questions for me, please!

  1. How the hell do we go from being completley dominant defensively, to non-existent in the second half.

  2. How do we blow a 8 point? lead to go down 5 at half?

  3. Why do we continually drive the lane down the stretch instead of shooting the f'ing ball.

  4. Can UCLA miss a 3?

  5. Can we for once do the little things right in a big friggin game. And no the Texas games don't count for any of you that really think that those games mattered like this one!

Michael Foulston 14 years, 8 months ago

You're a good man jayloco. In the aftermath, I will absolutely consider this season a success, but right now I am too confused about why I saw Mario, Russell and Sherron take the ball on the left wing, get a screen, get pushed out by the screener, cut back to the left into the lane and attempt a very heavily guarded layup that wasn't going in in the first half and continued not to go in in the second half. I just don't get why you don't try a new tactic after the first 20 times it happens. That's all. I'd love someone to ask that question to coach Self because I'd love to be able to understand why.

Michael Class of '93

jayloco 14 years, 8 months ago

Come on folks, please don't blame ALL of this on Bill Self. I was someone at the beginning of this season that wasn't sold on Self's ability to coach. I think he showed a lot of ability this year. He laid some eggs yes, but I would not blame this loss on Bill. Bill wasn't the one that got his pocket picked every time they went in the lane. Some guys had disappointing games today, and the beauty of this tournament is that if you don't bring it every game, you will be out. Unfortunately, we ran into a buzzsaw of a defense today and they outplayed us. I lay some blame on BS, but I just don't know what else we could have done on the offensive end given their unrelenting D.

Brian Conrad 14 years, 8 months ago

UCLA best team ? if we made half of our 2 foot shots would have won on thier homecourt by 10 .. face it Self chocked bigtime .. but wow he still had 2 timeouts left when we are down 10 with minute left.. IDIOT

ophawks 14 years, 8 months ago

Do you guys not read this website? Julian Wright hasnt said one thing about leaving and jumping to the pros. Hes not that kind of person and said hes commited to at least 3 years of college. There was a page spread about him staying and liking college in the KC Star. Id be highly surprised if the guy jumps.

ku98 14 years, 8 months ago

And here come all the Self bashers who are secretly (or even openly) happy that we lost. You all are just a bunch of d*ckheads. What can a coach do to prevent missed lay-ups, missed free throws, dumb turnovers, and incredible clutch shots from UCLA? I am as disappointed as any TRUE KU FAN. I can't believe we lost this, but come on, I don't think Self is at fault here.

isolve4x 14 years, 8 months ago

I have to agree with jayloco. I can live with a loss this far into the tourney, but only if we'd brought our 'A' game. We were really a bunch of SLOW LEARNERS tonight!! How about you try something DIFFERENT once in a while, since driving the lane EVERY possession isn't getting you anywhere except to Turnoverville and MissedShot City!! Our guards are fantastic at penetrating, but they're also awesome at the three-ball. Where the heck was IT tonight? We just didn't seem to value every possession, especially when we'd steal the ball then hand it back to them. I guess we just can't stand prosperity. Oh well, still a heck of a season, and they'll NEVER lose me as a fan!! ROCK CHALK JAYJAWK, GO KU!

stujayhawk 14 years, 8 months ago

SELF must have had the ludicrus mentalitiy that KU had the better athletes....

as much as i hate to admit it, Self's only fault is that he was unable to inspire his players.

It was the players that shot under 50% FROM LAYUP/DUNK RANGE!!!!


i'm only 17 years old, but i like to think that i can consistantly hit A censured LAYUP!!!!!! EVEN IF I'M SOMEWHAT GUARDED!!!!

Theutus 14 years, 8 months ago

Why would you say I'm not a true fan? I said yeah "This is no different than any other year".... Why? Because every year we lose to a lesser team. We don't just lose, we play like we don't want to be there.

I'm not going to blame self, but seriously someone (either a coach or a player) needs to take charge of the team and motivate them.

Our play tonight wasn't deserving of a final 4. We deserved to lose that game sadly enough.

OldEnuf2BYurDad 14 years, 8 months ago


This game was lost on a mental level. We played like an intimidated team. Simple layups and passes, missed. A bench full of guys who look like they already lost when there is3:00 left to play. We got psyched out by the UCLA 6th man.

I love Bill Self, but he doesn't know how to rally a team once they start to panic. Our guys played as if they were destined to lose that game.

Look on the bright side: we won't lose in the final four or the championship game, which means we won't have a riot on our campus this year.

filmhawk 14 years, 8 months ago

yo - MGoble - this season is a disappointment pure and simple. don't give me this jayhawk fans are spoiled and unrealistic. was a number one seed unrealistic? you should be able to play up to your abilities - and great teams overacheive. if we would have simply reached our potential, we'd have made the final four. instead, a nice season is tainted by a bunch of head cases and chokers. it would be nice for once to have talented players who would actually want to cut down some nets. oh well. let's all just enjoy our 33-5 record and kick back with a coca-cola and watch roy williams win another one.

OldEnuf2BYurDad 14 years, 8 months ago

This loss is no reason for us to hate Self. He's got a GREAT shot at a final four next year. Just wait, he'll get the job done, and soon.

Larry Smith 14 years, 8 months ago

I really wish we could hit some layups tonight. It's tough to shoot threes when they are riding you out to 1/2 court off of every screen you try to set. The lane didn't seem like it was that well defended, we just missed tons of shots in close.

I enjoy the boards and peoples opinions, but the one think I don't enjoy about them are the people who only come here to complain and never offer anything positive when things are going well.

stujayhawk 14 years, 8 months ago

guys, we don't have worry about anyone leaving after tonight...

pro scouts only pick up athletes that can hit layups...


Someone needs to inform my beloved Jayhawks of the consequences of their actions...not only do we not win our region, or get to put a new year on the banner but:

  1. All Jayhawk fans like myself, that live in other states, must face the "friendly" jabs of friends and other school mates

  2. We all know a UCLA fan...but the one i know is cocky

jayhawkcafefan57 14 years, 8 months ago


It was a great season, but ended too soon. The only thing that can be said is, "next year".


filmhawk 14 years, 8 months ago

i positively ticked off. - how's that?

Theutus 14 years, 8 months ago

because we lost to a lesser team.... again. Thats how.

whitsterman 14 years, 8 months ago

It's not all Bill's fault, just mainly. He needs to understand his player's ability. Rush went 6 for 7 against Kentucky. Why in the world would you not want that streak to keep going. We made one 3 for like what 6 attempts? against SIU, and it was as if he didn't let him shoot against UCLA. We had the looks, but the boys looked scared to take them. Fitting for Bill, 0-4 in elite eight games. I wonder if we're still happy we made that contract renewal.....

Michael Foulston 14 years, 8 months ago

I don't hate Self, but I think he shoulders a lot of the blame because he had to have seen how UCLA was creating turnovers inside, and to tell his players to do something different. Yeah, UCLA played great on D, "we should have been driving to dish or pitch more" Self just said in the post-game press conference. So maybe he was telling them that and they weren't listening...

Michael Class of '93

Matthew Goble 14 years, 8 months ago


Yes, the loss was a disappointment for sure. That's the great thing about being a fan of one of the best basketball teams in America -- we expect a win every time we play. But when they lose, I can't stand all of the negativity surrounding the team. And we as fans are spoiled. How can you dispute that? Since when is a 33 win season not a fantastic year? We didn't get to the Final Four. That sucks. I know. But the players played hard. And your claim that the players didn't want to cut down the nets -- preposterous. Do you really believe that? Why don't you go ask the players that? That's unbelievable thinking. UCLA was the best team in the nation for almost the entire season. I would have loved to beat them, but life goes on.

jayloco 14 years, 8 months ago


1-I would not say we were non-existent in the 2nd half. We continued to get steals and contested shots. The defensive end was not the problem tonight.

2-Basketball is a game of runs and unfortunately, they got a run going right before the half. That 3 at the end of the half was a momentum builder into the 2nd half. We simply did not have the consistency on the offensive side of the floor to break their run or create any mini-runs of our own. It would have bee interesting to see how UCLA would have re-acted if we could get it within 3 or less down the stretch.

3-I will continue to say that UCLA imposed their will on us. They defended very well on the perimeter and forced our guys to drive to the lane where their weak side D help was just waiting to pitch in and steal the ball or block/contest our shots.

4-They are known for being a strong perimeter team and their guards clearly outplayed ours. At the beginning of this game, both coaches stated that the guard play was the key to the ballgame. Does anything else need to be said? They killed us at the guard positions and thus are going to the Final Four instead of us.

5-Welcome to the World of Kansas Basketball. How many times have we lost a game in the tourney where we are left to question what if? Keep in mind though that every team that loses in the big dance normally has the same type of situation. I just wish we could lose a tourney game where we gave an A effort and simply were beaten by a team that brought the better A game on that day. Kind of like that loss to Kentucky back in the day when we were the 8 seed and they were the 1.

Brian Conrad 14 years, 8 months ago

not bashing Julian .. guys are going to have off nights. .. I have supported Self big.. Greatest recruiter but now he needs to learn from the coah he sat on the bench with .. Larry Brown. It is not only recruiting if the game is getting away .. use a precious timeout before you are out of it and control what is not working.. QUIT DRIVIN THE LANE!

mariofan11 14 years, 8 months ago

Another classic choke job by KU. No team in ALL the world of sports underachieves like KU basketball. Nice two points Mario.

Great job guys. I hope they all go pro. It will save the embarrassment of next year.

filmhawk 14 years, 8 months ago

why don't you ask them why they didn't want to make lay-ups?

Dick Murdock 14 years, 8 months ago

Let's face it, UCLA was the better team tonight. There was no question that our maturity and overall poise was no match to theirs. Still, this was a great season and one that I'll look back on with fond memories. See ya'll in November.

rhd99 14 years, 8 months ago

Bill Self does NOT deserve all the blame. To think otherwise is preposterous. UCLA was the better team. The whole idea that the Hawks did not want to cut down the nets, RIGHT, & I own ocean front property in Arizona!

Daves61 14 years, 8 months ago

Only thing I'll say about that was I wish they would have shot more 3's in the 1st half, I can't believe how many layups we missed. But, regardless, it was still a good season, no shame in what we accomplished. Hopefully this loss drives everybody to work harder for next year and we get everybody back smarter and hungrier. And, guys, maybe shoot about 20,000 free throws this summer huh?

Anyone on here complaining about the team or the coach are probably just pissed off Texas and Kansas State true Jayhawk will be whining! Rock Chalk!!

Matthew Goble 14 years, 8 months ago

Yeah, you're right. They didn't want to make layups. They missed them all on purpose. Rock Chalk!

tis4tim 14 years, 8 months ago

It's not the loss that bothers me so much...UCLA is a talented senior-led squad. It's HOW we lost. Sadly, it only takes one.

I think THIS is where the first round losses of previous years take their toll. If we get further last season, we have that experience of having been there under our belts.

NOW we know what it feels like and how we have to play this far into the tourney. I just hope the boys all want to come back. I sure would like to see them all together one more year.

Besides, I don't want to have to buy yet another coffee table. I seem to go through them pretty quick during tourney time.

I'll try to put the microscope away now. It was a great season looking at the big picture. Thanks Hawks! I'll fondly remember this team.

Jeremy Bolinger 14 years, 8 months ago

33 wins.........i know there is no national championship, but thats still amazing. I too will be wondering what if, and im only this much more exited for next season. 33 wins..........and no national championship. F'in $hit!!!!!!!!! Time to drown the sorrows!

Sparko 14 years, 8 months ago

Great year--this game was lost on selection Sunday. Playing SIU first on a quick turn did us in. Playing tired on the road? This was destiny. UCLA looked very comfortable lobbing shots all day. They were at home. 'nuff said. All the folks screaming about seeding? SOmehow the NCAA and CBS turned a 2-seed to UCLA (and the big market team) to their advantage. Astounding. Has a #1 seed ever played a road game to a lower seed in the Elite 8 before? Astonishing. We all saw this coming. Great year, but the energy was just gone. This team left it on the floor, and there wasn't anything left in the tanks. Wish they had played in St Louis. Funny, but a couple of losses late would have helped Kansas like UCLA.

filmhawk 14 years, 8 months ago

hey look - sorry - i'm just bent. rock chalk - get 'em next year.

Brian Conrad 14 years, 8 months ago

get your head out for some air ucla was turnin it over all we had to do was hit a few 2 foot shots . maybe just maybe STOP DRIVIN THE LANE AFTER TEN STRAIGHT TURNOVERS!

ophawks 14 years, 8 months ago

Question whitsterman and other Self doubters...Since you dont think we should have given Self that contract, what realistic coach that would come to Kansas would you want right now? Still want Turgeon? Kruger? Tubby? I dont see any available coach right now that we could get. Think before you just say these things because sometimes its not what is best for the team.

cearle23 14 years, 8 months ago

tis4tim -

If by senior-led team you mean that they do not have a single senior on the roster you would be correct.

Matthew Goble 14 years, 8 months ago

No worries. Just think about the season as a whole. It's always a great day to be a Jayhawk!

Rock Chalk!

whitsterman 14 years, 8 months ago

This was a very successful year, no doubt about that. But great players play great when it is needed most. And Chalmers was non existant on offense tonight, ya he had like 8 steals, but i think everybody on the team had at least one. Julian decided to turn the ball over more times than he decided to score. And even Brandon missed layup after layup. THats just the way the ball bounces sometimes. I think we should have all these guys back next year and have a real run at the title. I love all these guys, and support them fully, even on their (very) off night. Rock Chalk Jayhawk!

hawkone 14 years, 8 months ago

Less dribbling, less last minute dish offs, and more focus on the goal instead of the man in front of you. There was not alot of focus and the body language said that they were beat mentally long before the final buzzer. The problem with missing the layups is it kills you confidence which means you are less likely to try to put up shots form the perimeter. UCLA was the match up that i least wanted to play against because the are confident and they execute consistently. As far as anyone leaving...WHY? They all stay, they are the preseason #1 and they make the run to the final. Why would anyone leave now?
If you want to support your team go to the awards banquet so our players know they have our support.
Before this game: 33-4, 14game win streak, Big 12 Champs, #1 seed(although we got shafted on the region), Elite 8.......damn boys you make me proud to be a Jayhawk fan. Almost forgot...3-0 against KSU in 2007!!!

isolve4x 14 years, 8 months ago

Hey, it sucks that we lost. No question about it. But to missvolley90, to say we suck is WAY OUT OF LINE! Only 8 teams make it this far!! If you really feel that way, maybe you should go root for KSUck! Then you'll see what it's like to SUCK! And to stujayhawk, hold your head high when you get those jabs. Be proud to be a Jayhawk!! Few teams consistently have the kind of record that we have!!

A wise man once told me that over the course of a season, every team will have a few TERRIBLE games, a few AWESOME games, but most of the time they will play at their normal ability. It's just a shame that our terrible game had to come at such an important time. I guess maybe we peaked a little too soon.

jayloco 14 years, 8 months ago

Isn't it amazing to say that this is a team of sophomores and juniors? If Wright holds to his word, the only possible defection would be Rush. His shoes would definitely be hard to fill. Remember also that this UCLA team has the experience of a final four run from last year to draw on. Bad thing for Self and the boys is that the stakes will be high next year. It will be Final Four, if not National Championship or BUST next year big time.

jared1426 14 years, 8 months ago

we won't have a better team next year, this was our shot.

rhd99 14 years, 8 months ago

We had a great season. I am proud of the Hawks. 2 bad we did not go all the way, but this idea of Final Four, National Championship or bust is a bit extreme.

whitsterman 14 years, 8 months ago

I did think, and I did watch. I watched him get outcoached at least 2-3 times this year, and this game was definately one of those games. I was impressed with him for the most part this year, and have been a Self supporter all year. But you have to deliver on the big stage, and he hasn't been able to do that....his whole career. I hope he can turn it around, sometime soon. I'm not callin for his head or anything, just wonderin if he's the best choice.

hawkone 14 years, 8 months ago


i would love to see you back that up with some logic.

I guess experience and maturity don't make a team stronger huh?

UCLA, Florida and UNC and most sports fans might disagree with you on that.

tis4tim 14 years, 8 months ago


You're right...I misspoke. My head's still a little cloudy from disappointment.

jayloco 14 years, 8 months ago

When a non KU fan comes up to you and inevitably gives you schit on Monday morning because of the Hawks lost, do what I do. Tell them to go F themselves and worry about their team. Ask them if their team won 30 games this year. Ask them if their team won the regular season and conference tournament championship. Ask them if their team played in the Elite 8. Unless they are a Florida fan, they probably did not have the season we had. And when that MU or KSU fan comes up and tries to laugh at you, ask them when was the last time they ever F'IN won a NATL CHAMPIONSHIP BABY??! YEAH THAT'S RIGHT NEVER!!!!

jonas 14 years, 8 months ago

Well, it's good to see the positive voices trying to put in the word on all the people who have a great deal invested in our team "sucking." Perhaps some folk just need to admit that they prefer bit@hing.

stujayhawk 14 years, 8 months ago

REAL fans cry when their team losses...

just sayin'...hypothetically...

stujayhawk 14 years, 8 months ago

All i know is our players better want it more next year.

rhd99 14 years, 8 months ago

Let's all take a big deep breath, & exhale alright? What happened tonight sucks. I just hope that everyone looks deep down & realizes in perspective that there are MUCH WORSE things in this world than this loss, however depressing it is. Self & the guys did great. I am proud of them for a great season. Rock CHALK JAYHAWK!

isolve4x 14 years, 8 months ago

Just think, for one second, what would happen if the players and coaches started pointing fingers and blaming everyone else when things go wrong like many of you do! What kind of team would we have? These guys are a class act all the way, and my only complaint is now I have to find something to make life worth living until next fall!!

Kit Duncan 14 years, 8 months ago

There are 57 teams in the tournament that didn't make it this far. Be proud that the Jayhawks played their hearts out all season and, except for a very few minutes tonight were still in position to possibly win this game. UCLA should be commended for not letting KU's aggressive defense and oustanding steals get them frustrated. The refs let them play and both teams DID give it their "A" game, no matter what you may think. But for some unbelievable 3pt shots by UCLA and some unlucky bounces around the rim for KU, this might have had a different outcome.

Thanks gents for a super season!

Yes, no matter what, it IS a Great Day to be a Jayhawk!!!

argentinehawk 14 years, 8 months ago

WOW!! This loss, this game reminded me of the TT game earlier this year. We just couldn't buya bucket. That's just the way it happens some times, and it sucks. And I will say, IMO, coach Self is NOT at fault. Like many of you have already said, he's not out there shooting free throws, missing layups and dunks. BUT, I will say this, and I have said it a few times this year after some of our loses, it seems like coach Self doesn't make adjustments. Maybe he did like someone else said and the players just weren't listening. But it is frustrating that we couldn't buy a bucket and it looked like every time they threw up a shot, you knew, you just knew it was going in. And that sucks too!!!!! Oh well, it happens. Great season!! GO KU, and lets go ROYALS!

stujayhawk 14 years, 8 months ago

Ever heard of that saying, "you can't win them all, unless ur kansas?"

i have...'tis my motto

hspunk97 14 years, 8 months ago

I would like too thank Coach Self and Hawks for a great season. I would like to also thank all the Bill Self haters. Cause I know they cheered the Hawks on these last 14 games. At least I know your wife, kids, dog, & cat are safe from a beating to nite. Instead you'll take your anger out on Coach Self. Someday you'll get it. ROCK CHALK BILL SELF IS OUR MAN. CLASS of 1997

Steve Jacob 14 years, 8 months ago

Don't hold Wright to his word yet. Just look at that draft board. He's listed ahead of a guy (Noah) who would of been the #1 pick last year, going to a playoff team (Toranto Raptors).

If your a lottery pick, go.

jaybate 14 years, 8 months ago

RockyInn, You are the center of my world. You are all I think about. I write my posts specifically to keep you from reading them, because I am obsessed with you. Here's how I do it. I always try to keep the concepts and language above a second grade level. It seems to do the trick, doesn't it?

argentinehawk 14 years, 8 months ago

Yes, coach Self is our man, hspunk97. Where I come from, I was always told, that if it doesn't kill you, it only makes you STRONGER!!! And I believe this loss will only make coach Self stronger, and a better coach, along with this team. These guys are still young, and still has room for improvement. They WILL get better,and coach Self will do what old roy boy NEVER did in 15 years. Coach Self will win a National Champoinship at KU before it's all said and done!!!!!!! GO KU!!!!!!!!!

hawkone 14 years, 8 months ago

Or get your degree in three years and go. Not all elite college althetes are just looking for a springboard to the NBA. Right is a very intelligent young man, who has obviously taken his academics very seriously over the past two years. He could accomplish alot in three years at KU....a college degree and another shot at the cahmapionship would be a pretty good reason to stay. One thing that continues to ring true among these guys is that they are like a brotherhood and they love playing together. That only helps keep our stars in AFH.

jaybate 14 years, 8 months ago

UCLA's guards were just alot better than our guards. Afflalo was that big two guard that I've worried about all year. I figured he'd have a good game against us and be very hard to handle, but I really thought the rest of our guards would be able to neutralize Collison. But they couldn't. And UCLA's defense generated just as many TOs and strips as our did. Frankly, we were very evenly matched out their today except at the guards. I got so used to watching KU's guards just be so much better than other teams' guards this year, that I got caught napping. I thought they would be better than UCLA's but, alas, there is no other conclusion. UCLA has a helluva pair of guards in Collison and Afflalo.

UCLA just really put it to us on defense and offense. Defensively, they could just stop every single thing we did. Offensively, we had no answer for Afflalo OR Collison.

UCLA took SIU's game plan, applied extra talent, and completely demolished us. For the second game in a row, KU's vaunted guards were overwhelmed. And when we tried to rely on our big men, they could never hold onto the ball, or make a move without fumbling it.

Not only did our team get thoroughly beaten, our coach did too.

Howland simply destroyed our double high post pick and roll game. They bodied our players 3-5 feet farther out than they were used to to starting each possession and then the UCLA post defender would stretch, three, four even five or six feet towards mid court to stop the guards drive over the top.

The logical response was to either pass the ball to the screener rolling, which KU never did, or to have the guard start driving the baseline side of the post screen and have the post man roll into the lane, again, something KU never tried.

ku98 14 years, 8 months ago

Sure it stinks to lose in the Elite 8. It is the toughest loss to swallow besides the national championship game, but come on guys, we have a bunch of young guys there, freshmen, sophomores, and juniors.
Big 12 Regular Season Champions.
Big 12 Tournament Champions.
Elite 8.
30+ win season. I was at KU from 1994 to 1998. Trust me, I know about disappointments, but I love 'em all. And Self is HERE TO STAY. Enough already!

jaybate 14 years, 8 months ago

The third thing you're supposed to do, when a team overplays you like this is: someone on the weak side is supposed to break across and back door screen either the wing or the screening post man and go for lay ups off bounce passes or alley oops over the top--again something KU did not try.

Coach Self has coached superbly most of the season. He has almost faultlessly relied on his take what they give us philosophy and found ways to exploit what has been given. Today he goofed. He didn't adjust to UCLA's defense overplaying our guards at all and for KU to have had a real chance to have won he absolutely had to adjust, but didn't. KU should have been backdooring UCLA to death. and didn't even try.

FWIW, grind it out is only a good take what they give us strategy when KU has more guns. Had this game been a competition between our front court and UCLA's, grind it out would have won it. But UCLA just stole SIU's game plan and overplayed our guards and said, "let's see your big men beat us. We're going to cheat out on your guards and make up for it by hacking and slapping your big men every time they they even think of passing, catching, shooting or rebounding a ball." By the end of the game the guys were so used to getting hacked that when they didn't they over shot the basket Why?

UCLA's hack and slap defense is just too frustrating to sit back and let it work. It wears teams down over time. You could see the frustration on every KU players face. Any time they tried to put the ball on the floor, or go up for a shot, or chase a loose ball or rebound, the holding, slapping and hacking started. All of KU's missed bunnies, and fumbled opportunities near the basket, and botched drives were not happening, because KU was having a bad day. They were happening because UCLA was slapping and frequently hacking a KU player, and even when UCLA wasn't hacking and slapping, the KU player was anticipating it.

The game was never as close as the score suggested.

Frankly, the players tried to do what the coach asked them to do. The problem was that what he asked them to do was not the right thing to do. Howland had them figured out. Winning would have required some mid game corrections, or at least half time corrections, to exploit the overplaying and hackandslap defense. I doubt Bill Self will ever make this mistake again. But he sure made it today.

rhd99 14 years, 8 months ago

KU98, You said it all for me. Bye all. Peace!

estaboy 14 years, 8 months ago

Just one thing from this end...

Rock Chalk Jayhawk.... keep in mind, 4 of the last 6 years we've been in the Elite 8.

Next year we'll say 5 of 7, except with a title... Rock Chalk guys! Toasts to a great year!

Anne Tangeman 14 years, 8 months ago

Keep your sour grapes to yourself - the Jayhawks rock. It was a killer season and a fantastic TEAM - coached well by Self. We were one of 8 teams out of all the others. That's an achievement. It was tough watching the missed opportunities go by in tonight's game, but it is a game. I hope they are all back next year. Arriving 4:00 am at Allen Field House tonight I think. Anyone for a welcoming committee?

Dani Davey 14 years, 8 months ago

All you fair weather fans should be ashamed. 33-5 is a fantastic final record and we have a Big XII Conference Title and Tournament Title, 3-0 against KSU and 2-0 against UT this year.

And don't blame Self. It's not his fault our guys weren't confident enough to hit the threes (or much of anything else) tonight. Self has been amazing this year and he deserves nothing but our support.

Anyone know when the team gets back? And will there be a rally at Allen tonight for them?

phdguitars 14 years, 8 months ago

Here's my obligatory final comments that always follow a march loss. I don't think I enjoyed this run as much as I endured it. I have renewed my membership to club acid reflux as a side affect of KU's diminishing performance. It's as if I am John Coffey in the Green Mile for this team. I have learned to feel the loss comming. It's like nausea before you puke, that inevitable sensation. Late in the first half of this game you could hear that old familiar train whistle in the distance. This team had become adept at ignoring that sound and staying with the moment, but today I think they heard it and let it sink in a bit deeper. It would echo in their heads when they got near the rim, and resonate when UCLA hit stomach pucnh perimeter shots. The train was moving slow tonight, and there was plenty of time to jump aboard. But it seemed the tinge of anxiety that there was even a possibility the next shot might not go in, or the next drive into the paint would be a turnover, was enough to turn a moment of self-doubt into a game of self-fullfilling prophecies. Just look at the loss and compare it to every loss KU has faced in March. They're frighteningly similar. It's made me believe that the heart of a champion is one that never doubts and remains in the moment, unaffected by the sound of the train leaving the station, fearlessly Danny and the Miracles. This team has grown a lot, but they need to get over their fear, they need genuine confidence. And I need Pepcid AC, and a paper sack to wear to work Monday.

donsalsbury 14 years, 8 months ago

I love you, Jayhawks! You've made me proud!

(Granted, I'm pretty disappointed you didn't make it to the Final Four, but you won 3 more games in the tourney than you did the last 2 years, so I'm relatively ecstatic!)

Can't wait to see you next year!

Chris Shaw 14 years, 8 months ago

Well, I'm completely dejected right now. I've never witnessed a game where I was completely unimpressed by the other opponent. I don't know what it was, but I do not think UCLA was the better opponent. I do give UCLA credit for making big shots, but KU certainly did not bring their "A", "B", or "C" game tonight. I usually have suggestions or ideas that could have possibly turned the outcome of the game, but I'm completely vexed. We just didn't show up tonight. As another posted stated we missed 14 lay-ups and dunks. That's 28 points and that's unacceptable! I just don't understand why we continued to drive into the middle of the paint and try to make the impossible play. We had 14 footers as another posted stated and open 3 point looks that we passed up consistently. In other games we didn't think twice about those shots. We didn't play the same way we've played all-year. I think the SIU game got into her heads and screwed us up for this game. We didn't play within ourselves tonight which happens. We can't be perfect all the time, but I wish KU could pull out big wins. I know there's going to be people who say we have pulled out big wins and I can also site examples, but we always have difficult with the most pressure type of games. I think we as KU fans we are jinxed or have some type of hex on us.

93jayhawk: I hope it wasn't completely painful for you to sound like me for wanting adjustments during a game. I feel I have pretty good knowledge of the game and I was just giving my assessment of the SIU game and the way we play against mid-majors. I am still somewhat pleased by our defensive efforts tonight, but I'm just competely shocked by our offensive performance. I fell like if we played UCLA 10 times we would beat them 8 out of 10. I was not impressed with UCLA at all, but sometimes the better teams don't always win. When you hit 4 three pointers with under 2 seconds left in the shot clock, I guess you deserve to win. I just wish it wasn't UCLA with all of their winning tradition. Kansas has had a lot of failures in Final 4's and games leading to the Final 4 and I wish we could get out of our funk and win some championships when we have better teams. It's not often we can say that we have better teams than most, but this year's team was a team better than everyone else. We can also say that about a team in the 90's. I hope this team can stay together for one more year and each player work on the following things.............

hawkshock 14 years, 8 months ago

Simply a bad night...bad, bad night. Each round gets tougher than the last...we just didn't play tougher for 40 minutes.

Stay off Self's a-- this off-season. He didn't miss all those FT's, allow all the UCLA 3's, etc. UCLA just played the game they needed to tonight. We didn't. If you wanted to see a coach lose a game, I hope you watched TFloyd throw the paper on the court last night. Self would never do that.

These hurt because it's a year before the next elite 8 and we have to win three games to get there...3 game vs. tough opposition.

Leave the bag at home, phdguitars. We have nothing to be ashamed of. KSU exited the NIT early, MU never got anywhere, and we out-lasted TTU and A&M.

Support RussRob, Ju, Shady, Sherron, Sasha, Mario, etc. who were on the court. They feel worse than we need to feel.

A toast to the 2006-07 JHawks. Ended too soon, but we love them anyway.

landon_2003 14 years, 8 months ago

simply put...ku beat themselves tonight with too many turnovers and blowing waaaaaay too many shots inside 5 ft. self is the coach for ku...let's have a great offseason and come back with nothing else but a championship.

IdDoAnything2Win 14 years, 8 months ago


Let me first start off by saying I am only 15.

Ok now, Bill Self is here to stay. I met Roy Williams when I was 10 and he was a big ol' dick to me. Met Bill Self. Could not have met a nicer man.

Self is not to blame for this loss. We can thank Brandon, Julian, Mario. They needed to step up. Brandon wanted to go Pro tonight. You could see it. He was being way over aggressive, missing open layups. He was trying to set up his NBA resume. It look more like he deleted it even though he had 18, look at his shooting percentage.

Julian, YOUR NOT A GUARD. He had stupid passes. Dribbling the ball all the way down court as if he were 6'1". Next year maybe he will hit free throws too.

Mario. Mario, Mario, Mario. I think he was just plain out scared. I think I could of stepped out on the court and drove to the lane more efficently than Mario. Im on Varisty and I play the Small Forward. If i can do it, he sure the hell can.

Next year is our year boys. For sure. Cole Alrich is coming in and boy will he ever take the place of Kaun. I love my Russian but damn the kid looks like a robot that misses layups.


riloannde 14 years, 8 months ago

jaybate, I would hate to talk trash on a fellow KU fan, but all season long all you do is over-analyze every little detail and proselytize from your non-existent pulpit. Are you a coach? Do you do anything other than post all over message boards all of the time. I'm sorry, but you are a loser. Get a life dude. That or end your own.

Chris Shaw 14 years, 8 months ago

Julian Wright: Needs to work on post moves with back to the basket. I love his pump fakes, but sometimes he needs to take it right at the rim and put an elbow in someone's chin. He passed up a two foot lay-up tonight for a pass off of Darnell's chest.

Brandon Rush: He still needs to work on his left. He needs a hard pump fake with a 1 and 2 hard dribble stop and shot with someone in his face. Rush was starting to get more aggressive at the end of the year with drives, but needs to learn to make a little more contact instead of the finese play. He's doing an awesome job and it's a part of the maturation process.

Darnell Jackson: I couldn't have been more pleased with Darnell to end the season. If he could get a consistent 12 to 16 footer jup shot he would be a heck of a player. I love his grit and this Kansas team needs a bigger role from Darnell next year. He'll be ready for the challenge. He also hit his free-throws when it counted. He was clutch in the NCAA tourney for us.

Russell Robinson: Russell did play very well against UCLA for us. He was one of the few, but he needs to get more consistent. He almost cost us the game against SIU. We need him to hit more consistently from outside and continue not to make mistakes and he'll be ther perfect jayhawk next year.

Mario Chalmers: He needs to get off his high horse and stop expecting that things good things should automatically happen to him. He's the worst on the team about this. He needs to get more consistent and develop a mid-range game. Too many times has he gotten charges and lost the ball in the paint. It cost us in tonight's game, but his "D" also somewhat kept us in the game. He needs to find someway to focus and concentrate more. Missing that layup from Julian early in the second half killed us. It's a love hate relationship with Mario. Work on your flaws this summer and get pissed and take it out on everyone next year.

Sherron Collins: He's just a freshman and I cut him some slack, but it's hard for me do that when I see Mike Conley JR of Ohio State and Lawson of UNC stepping up in clutch situations. I was hoping Sherron would do the same, but was disappointed. He shyed away from taking shots tonight and I thought by him not taking those shots got us out of our flow. He, Rush, and Mario have to take those open Mid-Range and 3 point shots. They actually did that all year, but did not do it tonight. He'll learn from this and I have the most confidence in him that tonight's loss competely pissed him off. You are the man Sherron, work on your game this summer and come back in full force.

Chris Shaw 14 years, 8 months ago

Darrell Arthur: I think Shady just hit the wall and I don't think he really got back in the flow after his injury as well as sickness. He needs to get stronger and work on all his "Collison" post moves. He has a good fade away, but you can't rely on that move. We know all too much what happens with that move. You miss shots and you lose in the first round to Bucknell much the same way Wayne Simion did. Work on your post moves and you'll be in good shape.

Sasha, Sasha, SASHA: I don't really know what to do with Sasha. He is such a one dimensional player. He has 3 moves. He turns over his right shoulder while he's on the left block and misses layups. He turns over his left shoulder on the left block and misses shots with his baby right hook. Then he turns over his right shoulder while on the right block realizes he's going to get his shot blocked, pivots back through away from the basket to his orginal spot and then trys to pass out of his misfortune or throws up an ugly baby hook. He needs to go to some big man camps (George Mikans camp)and learn to get some foot work. I wish Sasha could lose his left hand. Sasha has a lot of work to do. I hope Aldrich can come in and give us some big man help.

fansincewilt 14 years, 8 months ago

It was a great season with another terrible end. I think the Jayhawks were great this season. Maybe a late season loss would have been good, but who knows. I hope everyone comes back but I wish them well if they don't. Everyone has to have a bad game from time to time. Our guys just picked the same night tonight. They obviously could play with this team. It just wasn't our night. The Bruins had the luck on their side tonight. I wonder if this game had been in Kansas if it might have gone differently.

BigTamale 14 years, 8 months ago

Only 6 and a Half months until "Late Night in the Phog".

Sagecasey 14 years, 8 months ago

I love the hawks, but tonight UCLA was the better team. UCLA played great off of every high screen we attempted. They rotated their players excellent on defense and hit clutch shots when needed. The "extra pass" is a good thing, but not 2, 3, 4, 5 extra passes like we did on too many possessions. Tonight, we once again did not really have anyone who wanted to step up. We flat out got beat. Bottom line give UCLA credit. They are a great team that beat a great team. Hope everyone stays, because next year we will be even better. GO JAYHAWKS!!!!!

Sagecasey 14 years, 8 months ago

And thank you hawks for a great season!!!!!!!

KURUSH1530 14 years, 8 months ago

I think we missed a few more than 14 layups/dunks, that was a crucial part of the game. For some reason, our guys were affected by UCLA's ability to contest those shots. There is no reason we should have lost this game tonight. I can't really be too upset, I know the players are taking it harder than me. I believe they know they let this Final Four slip through there fingers. Great season Hawks. I hope you can finally achieve that Final Four next season Bill.

Chris Shaw 14 years, 8 months ago

My only question to the rest of the posters tonight is this? Could anyone recognize any type of offense the last two games? The only thing I saw tonight were ball screens 22 feet away from the basket. You're not always going to win on ball screens. I just wish we were a little more mult-dimensional when it came to offensive sets. We were having difficulty tonight, but we kept to our guns and kep running those ball screens. Maybe something else could have worked?

Niraj Shah 14 years, 8 months ago

This lose is due to some pretty pathetic shooting on KU's part. UCLA hit big threes but make some chip shots whole different game. What stings the most is the season is over and we have to watch 4 other teams play for the title again. I like HCBS but it seems that the Elite 8 is his kryptonite for now. Well go Georgetown, Oregon and hope UCLA blows it next week. I hate that gosh darn bear

scootja32 14 years, 8 months ago

Unless Florida and UNC, and UCLA, and OSU pull off miracles and return their respective stars, we should be preseason #1 next year.

I can't wait

I really believe we got everyone comin' back, and a nice big bodied big man comin' in. The only one I see possibly leavin' early is Arthur

moveforward 14 years, 8 months ago

UCLA took away the outside game. Kansas took away their own inside game. Kansas' defensive game was stellar. And sadly, as has been the case all season, no one player for Kansas stepped up.

I would contend that Kansas had greater physical talent... just not the experience or the "want to".

This season was a step forward. Those who are wanting to leave for the pros certainly should.

Maybe next year...

scootja32 14 years, 8 months ago

OH yeah I almost forgot


jaybate 14 years, 8 months ago

I for one feel NO sour grapes whatsoever. This season was the best season since Hinrich's glorious team. Coach Self made me a huge fan of him this season. This team filled me with more great moments than just about any team I can recall, even though they didn't drive all the way to the ring. This team overcame more adversity to become exceptional than ANY other KU team I can recall. None of us has ever seen one KU guard have more strips than TOs and this year we have two. I don't ever recall a KU freshman guard being more exciting than Sherron Collins. I don't recall any wing man who could and did do more things to help make his team better than Brandon Rush did this year. Mario Chalmers and RR have to be the best six foot defensive guards ever to play at KU. Julian has done many, many wonderful things on the court this year. No telling how good he will be if he finds the off switch for his wild-outs. Darnell Jackson and Sasha Kaun have been absolute inspirations as human beings to me. Darnell has risen above so much. I've had a couple tough breaks this year myself, and Darnell Jackson has actually inspired me more than a couple times to keep going with a smile on my face. Sasha Kaun is from Russia and has to go without seeing his mother for incredible lengths of time. Sasha blew a wheel and somehow managed to fight through it and still contribute. Darrell Arthur, a diamond in the rough, who might have been drafted in previous years, had to play college ball and discover the hard way that he is a good player with a whole lot of work to do. There have been times this season when he must have wished he had never seen Mt. Oread and yet Shady kept lacing up the tennies and doing his best no matter what. Shady was an inspiration to me too. Here was an incredibly talented kid who just could not quite find the handle to the D1 game and yet he believed in himself and his coach and his team and never turned into a cry baby. I just know Arthur is going to be a stud next year. And then there's my personal favorite underdog--Rodrick Stewart. This guy has had to put up with being the twin who didn't make it at USC. And he came to KU, when he easily could have gone elsewhere for more PT, and he's put up with a complete log jam at guard in which he was lucky ever to get more than a minute most of the season. And yet he just keeps lacing the tennies and doing his best.

jaybate 14 years, 8 months ago

And then there's RR--not the defensive whiz kid--but the tough cookie who was body checked into the cheap seats by OU, and who was physically attacked by a UCLA thug play tonight. RR who went down so hard he could barely get up and raise his arms to shoot the FT. RR from NYC. RR, the kid who's seen it all before he even got to Lawrence. RR, the kid who didn't hardly get to play a lick his first year. RR, the kid who's NYC connection to Self--Norm Roberts bolted for St. Johns. RR, the kid who told Self he didn't want to play mop up minutes and then saw his minutes go to zero. RR, the kid who came back when most said he wouldn't. RR, the kid who learned how to get the most out of himself. RR, the kid who had to suffer the indignity of turning the club over to Sherron. RR, the kid who threw down threes against UCLA when no one else seemed able to. RR, the kid I hope someday becomes KU's head basketball coach. RR, the guy with more want to in one of his hang nails than Roy Williams has in his whole body. God, what an inspiring bunch of young men.

And then there's Coach Bill Self. The guy from Edmond, Oklahoma. The guy who had to play at OSU when they weren't much good. The guy who decided to commit himself to a brand of basketball--Iba/Parrot/Hansen/Sutton ball--that was pretty out of favor when he set out. Bill Self. The guy who took the philosophy of Iba, the extreme flexibility of tempo advocated by Sutton and added his own multiple offenses and belly button defense and carried this brand of ball to a new level. Bill Self. The guy did it the hard way at ORU, then at Tulsa, then at Illinois and now at KU. How much tougher does it get than following a legend who is still coaching at UNC? What happened to Mike Davis at Inidiana after he replaced Knight. What happened to half a dozen coaches who replace Wooden at UCLA? What happened to Gutt and Dougherty who replaced Smith at UNC? Those guys are GONE! But Bill Self stepped in, went to two Elite Eights, won conference and conference tourney championships, and built a powerful team his fourth season. Bill Self has overcome angry alums, spoiled fans, early doubters like me, and a Chancellor and AD who let him twist in the wind on his extention until he lost Singler and Anderson. Bill Self has taken an extremely difficult situation and excelled and nearly mastered it.

scootja32 14 years, 8 months ago

I just think that our guys should have tried to pick up fouls when they would come out and contest us off screens in the backcourt, instead of constantly avoiding contact and being stuck in the backcourt. Defense is usually blamed; take advantage of it.

jaybate 14 years, 8 months ago

I can say UCLA had the better guards. I can say Bill Self got outcoached today by crafty old Ben Howland and his bunch of blue wrist slappers. I can say our bigs didn't come up big. I can say we're going to have a serious problem replacing Brandon Rush, because we have no wing coming, or here, that is remotely as good as Rush is. I can say we don't have a tall two guard coming in next year and its going to hurt us again next year. I can say Kaun has been incredibly limited in utility down the stretch. I can say Arthur has a long way to go and a short time to get there by next season. I can say Sherron probably has the kind of knee injury that is going to prevent him from ever returning to that magical level that he was at for awhile this season.

But none of that takes away one damn bit from this: this was my favorite Jayhawk team, both the way they played (which I never thought I would live to say about Bill Self ball) and how incredibly admirable and inspirational these players have been to me. I feel its quite alright to criticise this team and Coach Self. Here's my critique: I've never seen a team become great that had as many holes in it as this one did, but this team became great. It became great in all the ways that matter to me but one--hey didn't win the ring. Well, big damn deal. I didn't strike oil this year either, but I kept my head up, did my best, and had some exceptional moments in the midst of some tough obstacles. So did these Jayhawks. I love them. And as Gale Sayers once said of Brian Picolo, I want you to luv them too.

sourpuss 14 years, 8 months ago

I actually suspected KU couldn't win this game based on their performance against SIU. We just don't protect the ball enough. I thought turnovers would get us, but we played great defense ourselves. However, our offense was about the worst I've seen in the tournament. No outside shooting, sloppy layups, and pretty much rotten rebounding when it mattered. Add to that poor free throw shooting and we didn't really have a chance.

I'm still a fan, I just know our limits. Yes, I'm disappointed, but I thought we did pretty well this year. We were one of the top 8 teams, and that is really nothing to sneer at. I think part of it was the pressure of the tournament. These guys didn't have any tournament experience (unless losing in the first round twice counts). UCLA went to the finals last year, they know the procedure, the pressure. I think we did extremely well for a team with no seniors and we should be proud of them. I won't blame any of the players for leaving - why risk a career-ending injury for some college after all - but I hope they come back. I think their performance tonight should scare off some NBA teams. They have talent, they have passion, but boy are they undisciplined and it showed. Hard call, but I think it would behoove them to stay and make a real run next year.

tdub 14 years, 8 months ago

Heeeeey, jimjones. Welcome back. Haven't heard from you in, say, 14 games. Funny how losing one game brings out the idiots again.

Kuhawkdave 14 years, 8 months ago

Do you think they will trade Kaun in the offseason?

lovemyhawks 14 years, 8 months ago

ok guys...... this was really a tough tough loss and definitely not my hawks night... at least not OFFENSIVELY. the first half ended badly but i still believed we were the better team and had faith we would pull it out in the 2nd half. however.... the 2nd half seemed like we were too flustered and frustrated and we let it slip away. please don't blame coach self...... the hawks simply had a bad night and beat themselves. the missed layups and dunks were absolutely unbelievable and though ucla caused part of that, they did NOT cause it all...... we simply missed shots we do not normally miss. i love chalmers and he was there defensively but i believe it was his worst performance ever on offense. hey, some nights it just goes that way. i wanted a final 4 and a national championship as much as everyone else and truly BELIEVED they could do it this year and still believe that. we can not be beaten when we are truly playing our best ball and we DID prove that this year many times. tonite we did NOT play our best ball and though i will give ucla some credit for that, i will NOT give it all to them because i do believe we could beat them easily on another night. one bad night and the season ends and that's the pits and i was CRUSHED but it's a game and it happens. i did NOT want to be the first #1 seed OUT but that happened too. it's been a great great fun season and the big 12 regular AND tournament championships were fabulous with some unbelievable games. the elite 8 is still good.... just not what we wanted or knew COULD be. let's hope they all return with more experience and confidence next year and we CAN go all the way!!!!

Kuhawkdave 14 years, 8 months ago

Is it possible to take away Kaun's scholarship? We'd be better off giving it to another team manager or something as he/she would contribute more to the team than Kaun.

Steve Jacob 14 years, 8 months ago

"Do you think they will trade Kaun in the offseason?"

KU would miss him. Plus he could leave anyway. He could go pro and return home, make a few bucks, not NBA money, but good money.

Matt Beat 14 years, 8 months ago

I'll sum it up with two words to describe the jayhawks in that game: mental mistakes

They let UCLA get to their heads

RightinLawrence 14 years, 8 months ago

KU needed to put the ball in the hoop. Bottom line. Watching Ohio State earlier...I found myself watching them go into the lane and, even when contested, they went to the hoop and put the ball in.

No finger rolls, not even traditional layups. I noticed it because, after watching KU this season...I usually held my breath for those touch shots to rim out or bounce off the iron. When you are there and can just flat put the ball in the hoop, why not just do it.

If we had, we would have won tonight.

feefifofum 14 years, 8 months ago

I really like reading this board right after the game. Every comment I could think of saying and many that I am thinking, but don't want to say, are already here.

We had a really good team this year. We had a pretty good coach to go with the team. Our team decided to go soft and tentative for some reason tonight and our Coach did not have any magical answer for it.

That's all. As far as following this team in the NCAA tournament goes, I really think we all should go back to just listening to the game on radio. CBS has almost ruined this game. Do they ever just stay with a game thru a timeout? Does anyone care what a sideline reporter or studio analyst says about a game? Do we care about seeing Coach's wives, players' Mom and Dad in the stands? Bill Walton? Close-ups of fans, band members, Bill Walton? Show all of that - but not even tell us what the refs have called - blathering on about a previous play as the ball has changed hands twice - and still struggling to finish the story.

Hey - wait a minute - I guess that is what I am doing. God I wish I could still drink. Sayonara!

RockyInn 14 years, 8 months ago

jaybate, now that the season is over you can get a life outside your computer. I never read your posts; why do you write them?

kuhawksr1 14 years, 8 months ago

Dagnabit ... It just hit me. You know what the best part of the night was? Watching Bill Self during the post game press conference take it like man instead of a blubbering, whimpering Roy. Always gotta look for the positive.

jasscott 14 years, 8 months ago

A key stat in the game was KU hitting 14 out of 33 layup and/or dunk opportunities. That is not a coaching problem. Sometimes things just don't go our way. It was a great season. 65 teams start this tournament and only one set of fans is happy at the end. They'll be back with more fire in their belly. We should all support the team and the coaches.

Time to go to bed.

jayhawkpro 14 years, 8 months ago

Some reminders to all KU "fans":

  1. KU lost to a good team.

  2. KU made it to the Elite 8 (ask KSU or Mizzou fans how far their team made it).

  3. PLEASE SHUT UP about firing Bill Self. He's won the same percentage of games as Ol' Roy did in his first four years. Oh, and how many championships did your beloved Roy win in his time at KU? (Don't forget that Ol' Roy LOST to Arizona (a #4 seed) with the "BEST" team in the country in 1997)

  4. Enjoy the ENTIRE season!! Was tonight's game disappointing? Yes. Did KU have a really good chance to get to the Final 4/championship this year? Yes! Did it happen? NO. But you know what? Our favorite team made it to the Elite 8, won the Big 12 regular season AND tournament championships. Wow, that sounds like a pretty successful season to me. Was it perfect? No. Did I enjoy it? YES!!

  5. (Hopefully) KU will return much of the same cast for next year (with ANOTHER McDonald's All-American in the mix).

To all REAL KU fans:

Keep supporting the 'Hawks and the coach. I have a feeling our team will lace it up again next year and will have AT LEAST as good a chance as this year's team of winning THE championship.

ccs1jayhawker 14 years, 8 months ago

anybody see that f**kin monkey mata on ucla

Kyle Crenshaw 14 years, 8 months ago

im pissed... mostly because we lost, but especially since we now have to wait until october to see this team on the court again. boy i hope brandon stays, he is really beginning to step it up. i definately would have liked to see us stop penetrating inside EVERY SINGLE possession only to have it blocked, missed layup, or throw it away. probably the reason this hurts so much is because we beat ourselves. hopefully the football team doesnt dissapoint again. and maybe ritch price can get our jayhawk baseball team to make another late postseason run! ahh i love my jayhawks!

ccs1jayhawker 14 years, 8 months ago

good season hawks can't wait til next season

FlaHawk 14 years, 8 months ago


I agree with your assessment of the UCLA approach. KU was beaten by abetter prepred team. No one has been able to totally cripple the offense by shutting off the guards like UCLA did.

KU has had two weak points all year. No shooting guard (Mario is over match too often at shooting guard) and a consistent post presence. KU has basically three point guards (RR, Mario and Sherron). This forces Rush into a shooting guard situation too often. Against inferior talent KU can win on talent. Against a well prepared atheletic team that play D, KU lost all semblance of an offensive scheme!

No matter who improves next year, these two issues shooting guard and a 40 minutes post presence will be back.

KU can still make it to the Final Four, but Coach Self will have to come up with solutions as he can not out coach others at this level. I love Coach Self, but he has not been successful at the elite level yet.

I don't see Aldrich or Reed contributing next year. After that who knows, but no way NEXT year. KU will have to improve with existing players that return and KU needs to play more top teams to get used to the pressure.

They were totally intimidated in the game today. Did not help that the refs called a loose game (fairly called both ways). This benefited UCLA more than KU!

Where are the regional finals next year! When will the new Sprint Center be in rotation?

Roysoldboy 14 years, 8 months ago

I have been less than impressed by all the crying and howling on here tonight. I wanted to put in my 2 cents worth about what I think lost this game but why waste time with cry babies. I read only two times that the players felt worse than any of you do. As an old coach I can promise you that they did but then you howlers just have to blame someone or something.

My take on this one is just as Brandon said in a postgame interview. We beat ourselves by doing dumb things. Many of you have commented that the pick and roll wasn't working because the guards were being pushed too deep. How many times did they blow by the big man and come down the lane and miss a layup in which they were getting pounded? More than just a few. I think that at about 8 ft. Mario needed to shoot his runner instead of trying for the layup. Brandon could do the same thing anytime he takes a notion and UCLA didn't have the 5 to 10 feet area covered. Missing all those layups is what put them in a hole but they didn't seem to want to take the short jumper.

Again, RR had a great game. He had steals and blew past the defense too many times only to get too deep and lose the ball. He did make both 3s that he attempted and Rush atttempted 3 and made 2 of them. I wanted them to shoot some more 3s but they didn't.

Those of you who howl every time our team loses need to have your butts kicked by the players because nobody can play the best game every time out. Our team had the best record in the tourney and deserve to be supported instead of having people act like they were hurt more by the loss than the players. I wonder how many of you ever played on a varsity level, even in high school.

As an old man, I have to say that I loved to watch this team as much as any others in the past 20 years and made sure I saw every game they played. This one hurt but I am sure the sun will come up in the east tomorrow morning but for some of those players it may seem impossible.

You guys who can't take your (friends??) ribbing you need to think how those players feel tonight.

A great season and I think every one of those guys will be back next year and look forward to the 6 months till it comes again with some pain and just pray that I live long enough to see next year's team play every game.

4all_timewins 14 years, 8 months ago

Has anyone looked ahead to how close we are to the top of the NCAA all-time wins? We are presently 3rd to UK and NC respectively. Here's the upside potential of the first dozen years of the Bill Self era:

We'll be 13-14 behind the 'Heels after this season; and around 40 behind Kentucky. (Personally, I hate to read about how good a "late season loss" would be for us -- how about going 40-0 next year as everyone returns hungry to cut down five sets of nets!)

With an undefeated season and a National Championship next year, we'll be seven back of NC going into 2008-2009 and probably overtake them in early 2010. As for blowing past Kentucky? We outpaced them by 10 this year and it will take them 3 or 4 years to right there ship. I say we'll easily outpace them by 5 wins a year average over the next 8 years.

Dream or potential reality? I say the next half dozen years are going to make Kansas Alums and 'Hawk fans nationwide very proud as Coach Self establishes himself as the coach who took our program to the number one position on the all-time charts!

hawkshock 14 years, 8 months ago

You think that an 18 year old kid reading the Sasha comments would ever want to set foot on KU's campus?

Take it easy guys. Most of us are probably older than most of the players. The old phrase "with friends like this, who needs enemies?" applies to several of you.

seattlehawk_78 14 years, 8 months ago

That is a brilliant argument jimjones. But if we didn't have Bill Self, where would the great players come from? And if we didn't have the great players would we still have had a great season?

RockyInn 14 years, 8 months ago

jaybate, Your anger must have gotten the best of you. The question was, "Why do you write them?"

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