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Sunday, December 2, 2007

Saturday upsets muddle KU’s bowl outlook

By Ryan Wood

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All bets are off now.

With No. 1 Missouri and No. 2 West Virginia both losing Saturday, the BCS bowl picture was a complete mess heading into Selection Sunday.

Kansas University (11-1) is right in the thick of it, though it's highly unlikely the Jayhawks will sneak into the top two and play for the BCS National Championship.

No. 3 Ohio State (11-1) expects to be in the title game. The opponent could be Georgia, could be LSU, could be Virginia Tech : heck, who knows?

Ninth-ranked Oklahoma, winner over Missouri in the Big 12 championship Saturday, will play in the Fiesta Bowl on Jan. 2 assuming it doesn't make a miracle leap into the top two. The Sooners' opponent very well could be Kansas, an intraconference clash Fiesta Bowl officials won't rule out and a matchup both KU and the Big 12 Conference are OK with.

"I think it'd be spectacular to have a Big 12 event there in the desert," Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe said during ABC's telecast of the Oklahoma-Missouri game on Saturday.

But who knows, really? The Rose Bowl expects to have an at-large bid to fill, and the Sugar Bowl could as well, if LSU sneaks into the top two. West Virginia, a 13-9 loser to a mediocre Pittsburgh team Saturday, now is eligible to be taken by any of the BCS bowls. The Mountaineers are automatic qualifiers, having won the Big East Conference.

The BCS selection show starts at 7 p.m. today on Fox (Sunflower Broadband channel 4). If the Jayhawks aren't picked for one of the BCS bowls - they conceivably could be taken by almost any of them - they could be headed to the Cotton Bowl, the Holiday Bowl or the Gator Bowl.

But at this point, it's anybody's guess.

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Comments

Jclarkson (anonymous) says...

fiesta bowl!

December 2, 2007 at 3:04 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

madmangine (anonymous) says...

Fiesta

Count it again.

that's 2

December 2, 2007 at 3:58 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

kltbadboyz (anonymous) says...

I don't think the rose should take illinois just because it wants a big ten pac ten matchup. What if OU plays for the title then we would definitely be in the fiesta. Im hoping a fiesta bowl matchup with OU.

December 2, 2007 at 4:05 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

bobsarobot (anonymous) says...

if oklahoma plays for the national championship KU shoudl definitely stage a state-wide protest (with hostages) to show how seriously we feel our case is for being there as well. if ohio state makes it to the National Championship game and KU has a mirror image schedule then you must ask, "why not Kansas?". time will tell..............we have about a 1% shot but ohio state has no better argument than KU.

December 2, 2007 at 5:35 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

okjhok (anonymous) says...

I would love a BCS bid, but after last night, I really don't want any part of OU, whose arguably playing the best football right now. That defense made MU look silly. Don't ask me what happened in their two losses (other than Bradford getting knocked out) 'cause I have no idea how that happened. They're good.

December 2, 2007 at 7:21 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

KUglow (anonymous) says...

Are you kidding, okjhok? I say bring them on. I want to play the best and be challenged by the best. Honestly, if we beat OUm aren't we in effect Big 12 champs? We would have the fewest conference losses of all teams? OK, I know that's not the case but Joe College, please get ready to print those shirts for us.

Plus, after listening to their fans flap their gums all week and watching Stoops moan on the sideline all night I want nothing more than to kick their a** and show MU how to beat the Sooners.

December 2, 2007 at 7:41 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

LHS1980 (anonymous) says...

They really did look good. I can't believe Bradford is only a freshman. That's crazy!

December 2, 2007 at 7:50 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

NEJhawk (anonymous) says...

Except anyone who looks at Ohio St.'s schedule will see a win against a BCS ranked Wisconsin team and not declare them equal.

December 2, 2007 at 7:51 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

wats211 (anonymous) says...

here is my take on the bcs......i think ku should play ohio state...the only 2 teams left with 1 loss...so it would be fair.....heres my take on my bcs playoff.....i think there should be a plus 2....this weekend or in early december...16 teams should play..the winners will advance to the 4 major bowls...those games would be be played on new years day...the winners play on..simple......till the champion is crowned....if you arent in the sixteen you can accept a bowl bid....the eight teams that lose also will fill in the bowl picture...whats so complicated about that....the bowls stay the same and we get a true champion..simple...duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .....go hawks...we love you guys and we love our coach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

December 2, 2007 at 9 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

fihsch (anonymous) says...

"...Ohio St.'s schedule will see a win against a BCS ranked Wisconsin and not declare them (OSU v KU) equal."

No, thye are, indeed, not equal. Yes, a closer look revealed that while Ohio St. beat No. 18 Wisconsin, it lost to No 15 Illinoise at home. So Ohiol St. should rank somewhere in between?

All is BCS fallacy. If they use the BCS system for NCAA Basketball, KU woluld've not won the 1988 title but, instead, would've won perhaps in 1997.

The BCS System is not legit. The winner of the BCS Championship is just that, A BCS Chaimpion, and nothing more. We as fan should not recognize the BCS Champion as a National Champion.

December 2, 2007 at 9:06 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Cornfed (anonymous) says...

fihsch no offense but do you feel the AP Champ was a better system? Voters from certain markets had more pull etc. And who can forget Tommy Osborne going out on top because it was his last year perhaps? Who cares KU is building a football team!

December 2, 2007 at 9:17 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhawkinatl (anonymous) says...

Man, OU last night did NOT look like a two-loss team. They are, no doubt, the BEST two-loss team and should be in the NC. However, I just do not see them jumping from #9 to New Orleans.

December 2, 2007 at 9:30 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

hometownhawk (anonymous) says...

Here are the facts: The C'ship is going to be OSU vs LSU; Rose will then decide between Georgia and Illinois to play USC. If KU fans want to go to the Fiesta, they should hope the Rose chooses Illinois, so that the Orange bowl will then choose Georgia to play VaTech. That is how KU gets into the Fiesta Bowl. If the Rose picks Georgia, the Orange basically chooses from WV, MU, or KU. I don't like our odds in that decision.

December 2, 2007 at 9:33 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

randomfrenchie (anonymous) says...

Hawaii should be in the title game. They are the only team that could consistently win week after week and, this year, that is very impressive regardless of schedule.

December 2, 2007 at 9:41 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Displayhawk (anonymous) says...

Just like in basketball, Mizzery played in their national championship game against KU last week!

December 2, 2007 at 9:43 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

beebe1 (anonymous) says...

To heck with a 'true' national champion. Things are so much better now that everyone has a claim to the top! I personally would ever endorse a 'playoff' schedule! Look at basketball -- too much concentration of talent in the power houses. Hey, let everyone have a good team and have their fub.

December 2, 2007 at 10:10 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

speedy (anonymous) says...

how about this for dreaming. forget the stupid bcs crud. put hawaii and kansas in the fiesta bowl. when ohio gets beat again then ku and hawaii will have the best records and we can declare ourselves natl. champs.
who self appointed the bcs crud anyway?

December 2, 2007 at 10:12 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

sevenyearhawk (anonymous) says...

OU should play LSU as winners of the two toughest conferences ...

Ohio St is a JOKE!!!

go visit my poll: http://boards.kusports.com/showflat.p...

December 2, 2007 at 10:32 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

Sparko (anonymous) says...

Kansas is the only BCS team to have lost only once to a ranked team. It should be Kansas-Ohio State IMHO. Missouri did what I knew they would.

December 2, 2007 at 10:51 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

justanotherfan (anonymous) says...

I don't think the Rose Bowl can take Illinois because they aren't ranked high enough in the BCS. That rules out a Big Ten opponent for the Rose if Ohio State is #1 or #2.

It will be difficult to justify taking a second SEC team over KU (if KU is the second highest Big XII team) because SEC champ LSU has 2 losses and nobody other than Georgia has less than 3.

Pac-10 further muddled things because Oregon fell apart after Dixon went down and the Stanford loss haunts USC as the worst loss among highly ranked teams. They won the conference and get the Rose, though. ASU probably gets an at large since they have only two losses.

Big East only gets one team (West Virginia), but they fell apart last night.

Hawaii has to get in now, because too many other teams on the bubble lost to deny them a spot.

Virginia Tech comes from the ACC, along with maybe an at large.

My predictions

1. Ohio State (Big 10) vs. 2. Oklahoma (Big XII) in the NC

Fiesta
Kansas or Missouri (whichever ends up ranked higher as an at large) vs. Arizona State (at large)

Rose
USC (Pac 10) vs. Hawaii (at large by being in top 12)

Sugar
LSU (SEC) vs. West Virginia (Big East)

Orange
Virginia Tech (ACC) vs. Georgia (at large)

December 2, 2007 at 10:58 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

babyjayhawkfan (anonymous) says...

I agree OU looked good last night, but they did what we should have done the first quarter last week...more pressure defensively. We gave Chase too much time to make the pass and their receivers too much space to make the catch and run. I think we can play with OU, but we better show up earlier unlike last week.

December 2, 2007 at 11:05 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

troutsee (anonymous) says...

I agree. The problem is that we have not started well in any game this season.

December 2, 2007 at 11:10 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

jayhawkr34 (anonymous) says...

if the bcs ever want some legitamacy they need to quit flip flopping every week, and how in the hell is a two loss team better than a 1 loss team, im sick of even hearing about georgia, this year is the poster child season for a playoff system.

December 2, 2007 at 11:12 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

kc_wildfire (anonymous) says...

The Rose Bowl will take Illinois so they can have the traditional Big Ten / Pac-10 matchup.

I would hate to see OU vs. KU...not just because it would be a tough game for us but for the good of the conference. Pitting two teams from the same conference against each other gaurantees a loss and when it comes down to bragging rights and for the trophy for the conference with the best bowl winning percentage it hurts.

Personally I would love to see KU in the Orange Bowl versus Virginia Tech. The state of Florida always has a ton of high school recruits and playing there hopefully would help develop some bonds there like we have made in Texas with recent bowl appearances there in regards to recruiting. Plus I like they way we matchup against Va Tech.

December 2, 2007 at 11:42 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

jhawks1510 (anonymous) says...

I was just about to post the same thing as wildfire. It's silly to put two teams from the same conference in a bowl; it guarantees a loss.

LSU has a legitimate claim to playing for it all because they played arguably the toughest schedule in the country and lost in 3OT twice. OSU, though probably not one of the best 2 teams in the country has a claim simply based on how the system is structured now. KU as a one-loss team, losing only to a top 5 team, probably doesn't either because we didn't even win our division.

And let me stand on my soapbox now and say that the Big XII title game is a terrible idea, it only hurts us, and we should get rid of it. Put all the teams in one big lump, have them duke it out and whoever is left on top takes it.

I think it's going to be LSU-OSU, and I have a sneaking feeling that KU is going to get screwed and not play in a BCS game.

December 2, 2007 at 12:10 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Jayhawk86 (anonymous) says...

Well, it sucks that KU moves down to #8 in the ap poll while being idle, But OSU moves up to # 1 while being idle also.

December 2, 2007 at 12:28 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Jayhawk86 (anonymous) says...

Gotta hope that the Computers help us out.

December 2, 2007 at 12:31 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

troutsee (anonymous) says...

Fiesta will take ASU. KU will get screwed over. Most likely we will go to the Holiday bowl against Oregon. I hope not but this looks like the way things are going to play out. I would love the Cotton if we don't get a BCS but two bits says the Cotton takes TU and Arkansas for the draw. If TU gets chosen in front of us, that would truly be a screw job. TU very overrated as is Mack Brown as a coach.

December 2, 2007 at 12:40 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jprich (anonymous) says...

The bottom line is that anyone can make a case for AND against any team playing in the National Championship. I personally don't think KU should play simply because they lost on a neutral field, and that has to be a huge factor when these BCS Bowls pick teams. I could make a case for them playing in the NC, but I don't think KU is one of the top two teams in America. Simply put, we need a playoff.

December 2, 2007 at 12:48 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

KUglow (anonymous) says...

Fiesta bound?

http://www.kansascity.com/news/breaki...

December 2, 2007 at 1 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

BPSkelly (anonymous) says...

All those complaining against our "Championship" game have no choice.

Since the new ACC "merged" the NCAA rules states that if you have 12 teams in your conference you must play a championship game. Which is way the acc, sec, Big 12, MAC play them.

Initially it was because of money... and still is... but now its mandated because of the size of our conference.

December 2, 2007 at 1:03 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

plasticJHawk (anonymous) says...

Jayhawk 86,
KU was #7 in the AP poll last week. Did you expect we'd move up after being idle when conference champions were moving up. Plus most people felt we should have fallen farther after our loss to MU even though they were #3 in the AP.

I agree with 1510, I think it will be osu/lsu. Anf if LSU slides into the NC then Georgia will probably play the Sugar Bowl. Georgia will be in the BCS top 4 and thus an automatic bid. Hawaii will be in the top 12 and thus and Automatic bid. So with the 6 conference champs, then Georgia and Hawaii, there are literally only TWO at-large bids available. The true at large teams will be either us or MU and then who else? It will either be Arizona State, Illinois, or BC and ASU will be the highest ranked and the only 2 loss team out of the three.

So here's the bowl picture in my opinion.

NC - OSU v. LSU
Rose - USC v. WVU
Sugar - Georgia v. Mizzou or KU
Orange - VT v. ASU
Fiesta - OU v. Hawaii

I don't know who chooses first between the Orange and Fiesta, but I think the one who chooses first will choose ASU.

December 2, 2007 at 1:06 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

albraun (anonymous) says...

1510 is correct up to a point. LSU (according to the Sagarin rankings posted today) does have the best strength-of-schedule among the teams being talked about: LSU 21, Mizzery 24, Georgia 30, Ohio State 50, Oklahoma 59, Kansas 88. It isn't the strongest schedule overall - that honor belongs to Washington and UCLA. I agree with the argument that there are only two 1-loss teams amongst the BCS conferences, therefore it should be KU and Ohio State in the NC, but in reality the sportswriters and coaches from the coasts have the biggest say and the chances of the KU-OSU or KU vs ANYONE in the NC are almost nil. The only thing I can say for sure, at least if there's any justice in this world, is that it should be Mizzery and not us that gets shut out of the BCS. If they can only take 2 Big 12 teams, which is what I think the rules say, then it should be OU (as conf champ), and KU (with only one loss vs Mizzery's two, and our one being only 8 pts vs the 10 and 21 they lost by in their 2). I guess we find out at 7pm.

December 2, 2007 at 1:28 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

100 (anonymous) says...

In discussing OU don't forget you guys are talking about one game. Imagine these three variables: if the only game people saw us was Nebraska. And we had a USC on our shirt. And then the only loss that team had had was against an upstart #4 who played the best game they've played in their lives. 11-1 is pretty good. The only reason we're not in the championship game is because ku's bus was literally (no joke) in a traffic jam before the mu game and we didn't play for the first 3 quarters of the year. Don't be disillusioned. OU showed up ready to play against MU. We did not. This was one game. OU stunk it up against Texas Tech and CU. We didn't.

December 2, 2007 at 1:35 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

BPSkelly (anonymous) says...

Oklahoma, Ohio State, lsu, wvu, Va. Tech, USC are all sure things via winning they're conferences.

4 Spots Remaining. Then it could get ugly for ASU, Mizzou, Georgia, KU

At this point we should assume Hawaii is in. They're only going to move up in the BCS at this point.

3 Spots left. Uglier Still?

If the Rose Bowl, as presumed by many, but certainly not verified by anyone, takes Illinois because of Ohio State playing in the "Big" game thats one less slot left.

2 spots left for ASU, Mizzou, KU, Georgia.

Im going to presume Georgia will be the highest ranked "at-large" in the BCS standings tonight. Throw in that if LSU ends up #2 (no certainly, but looking possible) the Sugar will want to take an SEC team probably... said Georgia.

1 spot lefts for ASU, Mizzou, KU.

Now, as biased as I am, I think the most likely to get the boot is us. Why? I think Mizzou's beating us a week ago will stand in the mind of poll / coaches voters. It just will. We may even be ahead of them in the BCS, but I have a feeling we're going to get beat out because of that game last week. Just a hunch.

ASU has some merit in my mind, but in no way any more than us or Mizzou. And I think the Big 12 wont go from having 3 of the top 5 2 weeks ago to only ONE team (Oklahoma) in the BCS.

I've seen so many predictions / projections its really hard to pin down, especially when the Jayhawks seem to be one of the "Wild Card" teams thats thrown around...

What if the Rose decides to take the "best team available" instead of Illinois? Could it be us? Georgia? If Georgia, do we go to the Sugar to play Hawaii?

Does the Orange take an "Old School Big 8" team to play Va. Tech? Is that us or Mizzou?

Sugar get LSU... or lose LSU ?

The Fiesta "talk" about KU and OU playing seems like folly to me. I cant envision that being appealing to anyone other than OU and KU. It'd be great to get a BCS game... but a "Conference" game? I dont know. From the speculation it maybe the most likely though.

Who knows. Several schools are going to feel "Jobbed" this evening thats for sure. Lets just HOPE its not us.

Prepare for the Holiday, Gator, or Cotton... and hope for the Orange, Fiesta, Sugar.

Rock Chalk Folks... Rock Chalk.

December 2, 2007 at 1:39 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

justanotherfan (anonymous) says...

I agree with a lot of what you say BPS, except that last week Illinois was ranked 15th. You have to be in the top 14 in the BCS to be an at large team, unless there aren't enough teams to fill the spots. Since Hawaii takes a spot, and you will have Georgia, Kansas, Missouri and Arizona State all eligible for at larges, Illinois does not qualify for an at large unless they move up. Unfortunately, this means that either KU or MU will be passed over for a team ranked below them because of the rule of only two teams per conference, but I still figure that the SEC, Big XII and Pac 10 each get 2 teams in, plus everyones champ and the WAC gets Hawaii.

December 2, 2007 at 2:42 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Toto_the_great (anonymous) says...

part of the polls... http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/ranking...

December 2, 2007 at 3:01 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

100 (anonymous) says...

To figure out KU's destiny it's as simple as this: either Missouri or Kansas gets a BCS game. One or the other. Missouri choked last night, beat by 3 touchdowns. Three touchdowns. We didn't beat Nebraska by much more than 3 touchdowns. A 3 touchdown loss is the key... Kansas was one punt return from beating MU. Kansas has a better record. Kansas also has the best record in the nation (except Hawaii). The BCS poll will have Kansas at 4 or 5 and Missouri at 8 or 9. Lastly, the most likely bowl is the Fiesta, which will take OU. They don't want MU as they have already been beaten by OU twice. In short, if MU had lost a close game to OU last night, MU would have taken the BCS bid from KU. But they were beat by 3 touchdowns. It looks very likely KU's hard work during the season will pay off in a BCS bid over MU.

December 2, 2007 at 3:19 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

seattlehawk_78 (anonymous) says...

Don't want to play OU. We'll see them soon enough next year. It is not in the best interest of the Big 12 to guarantee a loss for one of their top ranked teams. Part of the allure of the bowls is to see teams play from other conferences.

Probably more than any other year the BCS is showing all its faults. No team deserves to be in the title game, not KU or anyone else. The number of losses sustained by top ranked teams in the last two weeks makes the NC game a travesty. I'd like to see Hawaii in the title game, weak schedule and all.

OSU and LSU may have backed into the title game but at least they won their conferences. Although I think a strong case can be made for OU who lost one of their games on the road and the other one when their QB was hurt. Both of LSU's losses were in triple OT. Pretty sure OSU is in but I think OU and LSU are probably the best two.

In spite of our one loss, it's been fun being front and center stage in the wildest season ever in college football.

December 2, 2007 at 3:31 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

kc_wildfire (anonymous) says...

I agree seattlehawk.

OU has two losses but one of them was when their starting QB missed nearly the whole game. Had he played that game it probably wouldn't have resulted in an OU loss.

I'd rather have a one loss OU (under the assumption they would have won the previously mentioned game) versus a two loss LSU team that lost both of those games in multiple OTs than a one loss OSU who has benefited from a weak schedule and no conference championship game.

Unfortunately computers can't take into consideration the injury to Bradford.

December 2, 2007 at 4:56 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

JBurtin (anonymous) says...

You also have to figure in the fact that LSU just won their conference championship game without their starting quarterback. OU lost when their starting quarterback was down, and probably wouldn't have beaten Missouri without Bradford.

There's no doubt that LSU is one of the deepest and most talented teams in America. I just wish there was a playoff to make them prove it instead of being put in based on who everybody thinks is the best team.

Ohio State being in the championship game would be an absolute travesty.

My vote would be to see something that will simply never happen. IMO OKlahoma and LSU are the two most talented teams and it would make a fantastic Championship matchup.

December 2, 2007 at 5:20 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

fletch (anonymous) says...

Current Predictions:
Championship - LSU vs Ohio State
Rose - USC vs At Large
Fiesta - Oklahoma vs At Large
Orange - Virginia Tech vs At Large
Sugar - At Large vs At Large

Those are automatics as long as LSU vs Ohio State is what the computers come up with. So we have 5 at larges to deal with. Hawaii gets one for being in the top 12 from a non BCS conference. So we're down to 4.

This is where it gets sticky. The #3 team gets an automatic bid if it hasn't received one. If they don't need that automatic bid, it goes to the #4. Georgia is in the mix for that depending on the computers, so they'll get that auto-bid. Now we're down to 3 and bowls can pick whoever they want. The contenders for those last 3 spots seem to be KU, Mizzou, West Virginia, Florida, and Arizona State. It all depends on who gets selected first between KU and Mizzou. The conference only gets two bids, so first team to get picked wins. The other goes to the Cotton Bowl.

December 2, 2007 at 6:25 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

fletch (anonymous) says...

P.S. Fiesta Bowl won't take Arizona State. The selection committees for these bowls usually involve people from city management and the tourism industry. If they invited Arizona State, nobody would be filling hotels and restaurants.

December 2, 2007 at 6:27 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

bmcmich1 (anonymous) says...

Arizona State is going to play Texas in the Holiday Bowl. There is a list of all the bowls up on espn.com and the participants of some of them. ASU vs. Texas in the Holiday has already been decided.

December 2, 2007 at 6:42 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

justanotherfan (anonymous) says...

Why would ASU turn down a potential BCS bid to play in the Holiday bowl? That doesn't make a lot of sense, especially when there are still at larges to be determined.

December 2, 2007 at 6:57 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jerseyhawk (anonymous) says...

see link. KU in BCS
http://www.bnd.com/breaking_news/stor...

December 2, 2007 at 7:01 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

kc_wildfire (anonymous) says...

Ku vs. Va. Tech!!!

December 2, 2007 at 7:16 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

Toto_the_great (anonymous) says...

Orangebowl baby!

December 2, 2007 at 7:16 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

landon_2003 (anonymous) says...

orange bowl!!!!!!!!!!

December 2, 2007 at 7:17 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

ku98 (anonymous) says...

orange bowl, baby!! miami, here i come!

December 2, 2007 at 7:18 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

peter56321 (anonymous) says...

Kansas is in!! Missouri is out!!!!!!! Hahahahahaha!!!

December 2, 2007 at 7:18 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jross1972 (Joe Ross) says...

mizzou OUT

December 2, 2007 at 7:18 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

ku98 (anonymous) says...

I am so excited, I can hardly stand it.... and Mizzou takes it right in the pooper... Awesome!!

December 2, 2007 at 7:19 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

tpeck1021 (anonymous) says...

hahahaha missery

rock challllllk ku!

December 2, 2007 at 7:19 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

CaramelMacchMan (anonymous) says...

Orange Bowllll helll yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

December 2, 2007 at 7:19 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jross1972 (Joe Ross) says...

Mizzou won the battle, Kansas won the WAR

December 2, 2007 at 7:19 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

jross1972 (Joe Ross) says...

what this translates to is millions of dollars! last years payout for the orange bowl was 17 million. the cotton bowl (BCS) payed out 3 million. Nearly 6 times as much. Mizzou may not even get THAT! Stay tuned...

December 2, 2007 at 7:21 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

KUglow (anonymous) says...

Wow!!!!! Awesome!!!! Orange Bowl - Va Tech and no Mizzou in the BCS! What a great day to be a Jayhawk!!!!

December 2, 2007 at 7:21 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

kc_wildfire (anonymous) says...

Who called it earlier today? 11:42 post...kc_wildfire

I think I know that guy :)

Just playin'!

I love the fact we are playing in a state with an abundance of high school recruits...as long as we can take advantage of it and land some of them.

Plus we aren't playing a fellow Big XII school.

December 2, 2007 at 7:21 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

justanotherfan (anonymous) says...

I'm baffled by all of this. I'm glad that we got a BCS game, but Illinois getting in is pretty screwy. It seems like the powers that be at the Rose Bowl basically screwed ASU over to keep their "traditional" matchup by ensuring that Illinois moved up without even playing.

This season has been the greatest argument for a playoff yet. Once the bowls start manipulating standings and passing over more deserving teams. It's tough to justify picking the #13 team for a BCS bowl when there are eligible teams still out there.

And Ohio State getting another shot is ridiculous. Although everyone will justify OSU getting there by pointing to the "strength" of Illinois and the fact that they are a BCS team. Once again the Big Ten's people have pulled a coup to make their conference look good. I predict that both USC and LSU will blast Ohio State and Illinois in the BCS games.

December 2, 2007 at 7:24 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

ohioburg (anonymous) says...

Awesome!!! Orange Bowl, no in-conference matchup with OU, and Mizzou stays home!!!

December 2, 2007 at 7:27 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

kc_wildfire (anonymous) says...

The one thing that really gets me is that a conference can only have two teams in a BCS bowl.

So even if a conference has three or more teams deserving of a bid one gets screwed. As much as I dislike MU they belong in a BCS bowl before Illinois does...easily.

December 2, 2007 at 7:31 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

fihsch (anonymous) says...

Playing V Tech in the Orange Bowl is even better than playing OU in the Fiesta. This a charmed year for KU. We can beat V Tech. Rock Chalk Jayhawk. Happy Holidays!!!!!

December 2, 2007 at 7:49 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

pmohr13 (anonymous) says...

Yeah yeah yeah yeah
Miami uh uh
Southbeach bringin the heat uh
Haha can yall feel that
Can yall feel that
Jig it out uh

Here I am in the place where I come let go
Miami the base and the sunset glow
Everyday like a mardi gras everybody party all day
No work all play okay
So we sip a little something lay to rest the spill
Me an charlie at the bar runnin up a high bill
Nothin less than ill when we dress to kill
Everytime the ladies pass they be like hi will
Can yall feel me all ages and races
Real sweet faces
Every different nation spanish hatian indian jamaican
Black white cuban and asian
I only came for two days of playing
But everytime I come I always wind up stayin
This the type of town I could spend a few days in
Miami the city that keeps the roof blazin

Chorus

Party in the city where the heat is on
All night on the beach till the break of dawn
Welcome to miami
Buenvenidos a miami
Bouncin in the club where the heat is on
All night on the beach till the break of dawn
Im goin to miami
Welcome to miami

Verse 2

Yo I heard the rainstorms aint nothin to mess with
But I cant feel a drip on the strip its a trip
Ladies half dressed fully equipped
And they be screamin out will we loved your last hit
So Im thinkin ima scoot me somethin hot
In this south sea merengue melting pot
Hottest club in the city and its right on the beach
Temperature get to ya its about to reach
Five hundred degrees
In the carribean seas with the hot mommies
Screamin aii poppy
Everytime I come to town they be spottin me
In the drop bentley aint no stoppin me
So cash in your door
We flow to this fashion show
Pound for pound anywhere you go
Yo aint no city in the world like this
An if you ask how I know I gots ta feed the film

Chorus

Verse 3

Dont get me wrong shytown got it goin on
An new york is the city that we know dont sleep
An we all know that l a and philly stay jiggy
But on the sneak miami bringin heat for real
Yall dont understand
I never seen so many dominican women with cinnimon tans
Mierda this is the plan
Take a walk on the beach draw a heart in the sand
Gimmie your hand
Damn you look sexy
Lets go to my yacht in the west keys
Ride my jetskis loungin in the palm trees
Cause you gotta have cheese for the summerhouse piece on southbeach
Water so clear you can see to the bottom
Hundred thousand dollar cars eybody got em
Aint no surprise in the club to see sly stallone
Miami my second home

Will Smith-Miami

December 2, 2007 at 8:26 p.m. ( | suggest removal )