Saturday, November 25, 2006

KU baits Gators in OT, 82-80


Well, no more looking ahead for the Kansas Jayhawks. The game none will admit to having circled on their schedules for quite sometime is here.

KU is still struggling to regain its preseason swagger after a stunning home upset at the hands of Oral Roberts nearly two weeks ago, and there'd be no better time for the young squad to do so than tonight in a 10 p.m. tipoff against top-ranked Florida - the defending national champion.

While KU struggled to a 64-46 win Friday night in the third round of the Las Vegas Invitational at Orleans Arena, the Gators cruised past Western Kentucky, 101-68, in the nightcap.

It's been that kind of year for Florida so far through six games - picking up right where it left off after last year's national championship game romp of UCLA. The Gators have won their first six contests by an average margin of 42.2 points per game.

Highlighting the effort so far has been six players averaging at least 8.3 points per game, and four in double figures. Junior forward Al Horford leads the team both in scoring (14.3) and rebounding (8.2), while fellow big man, junior Joakim Noah, is the reigning Final Four Most Outstanding Player. He's averaging 13.2 points per game, while junior swingman Corey Brewer averages 11.8 per and junior point guard averages 11.2 points per contest. He also leads the team with an average of four assists per game.


Florida's Al Horford started the game with a tough inside basket on a short turnaround, and KU responded quickly, with a three from the corner from Mario Chalmers. KU earned another possession off of a Brewer miss, and Julian Wright found Darrell Arthur inside to give KU the early 5-2 edge.

Brandon Rush kept the hot KU start going after Noah bricked a pair of ugly free throws. He took down a tough offensive rebound after Chalmers missed a three, and Julian Wright then hit a pull-up 17-foot jumper to give KU a 9-2 lead and force Billy Donovan to call and early timeout.


KU got its first negative of the game when Darrell Arthur was whistled for his second timeout quickly out of the timeout. It made Sasha Kaun's return from a knee injury that much more important, as he was entered into the game.

Wright made the post absence of Arthur moot by hitting an inside hook shot to put KU up 11-2.

Florida finally responded to KU's 11-0 run when Noah put down a stuff in traffic and drew a foul. The free throw made it an 11-5 game.

Corey Brewer followed a scramble on the heels of a Noah miss inside to make it 11-7, and on the other end, Wright ripped down a tough offensive board and drew a shooting foul, but will take the shots after the game's first television timeout.


Wright hit both free throws out of the game to bump his point total to six so far and give KU a 13-7 lead. After Florida missed another three, Chalmers took the ball with force down the lane and flipped it out to Robinson, who hit the Jayhawks' second three of the game to again make it a nine-point game.

Taurean Green's response was a floating baseline jumper to pull the Gators back to within seven. KU got some more tough news on Florida's next possession when Kaun earned his second foul. But Horford clanked both free throws, and Brandon Rush scored his second field goal of the game with a baseline two, again making it a nine-point game. Horford drew an offensive foul on the other end to keep KU's momentum building.

After Florida again squandered a chance to score, KU went to the paint on the other end, feeding Darnell Jackson off of a sweet inside spin move. He missed his shot but was hacked by Noah. He hit both free throws to put KU up 20-9 with just over 12 minutes to go in the first half.

Florida finally found an outside stroke thanks to its key marksman, Lee Humphrey. The senior hit a three with a hand in his face to put Florida back wtihin eight points. Darnell Jackson was whistled for over the back on the other end trying to pull down an offensive board, giving KU's forwards five fouls in the opening 8:29. KU leads 20-12 with 11:31 to go in the first half.


After a touchy foul called on Sherron Collins out of the timeout, Humphrey hit another jumper for Florida, but KU responded emphatically with a Julian Wright flush knifing down the lane.

Joakim Noah was not to be one-upped, screaming as he threw one home two-handed.

Wright kept the battle going, moving into double digits with a floater in the lane to put KU up 24-16.

Florida's response was first a pair of Humphrey free throws, giving him seven straight points for the Gators, and then a Taurean Green layup in transition off of an errant Darnell Jackson pass. Green got a free throw with it but couldn't connect, as KU held a 24-20 lead.

Wright scored his third straight field goal for the Jayhawks on a two-handed slam in which he ripped the rim forward. On the other end, Joakim Noah earned himself a trip to the bench, drawing his second foul of the game.

KU headed into yet another full timeout with the lead, staying ahead 26-20 with 7:52 to play in the first half.


KU got a couple of chances to score out of the timeout, but Rush misfired on a pair of baseline jumpers. Florida's Chris Richard scored on a tip-in off of a Horford miss on the opposite end, but Russell Robinson stormed back quickly for an acrobatic two points.

Rush then jumped a crosscourt pass defensively, dished it off, took the ball back and was fouled going to the rack with KU up 28-22. Rush missed both free throws, and KU's opportunity to expand the lead was squandered.

Florida jumped on the opening, with Taurean Green hitting a three on the opposite end.

KU drew another charging call on Florida - the third of the game - and on the other end, Darnell Jackson hit one of two free throws to push KU's lead to 29-25.

Another scramble under the KU basket wound up into yet another KU transition opportunity. And, another Julian Wright basket. The sophomore scored on a feed from Russell Robinson, giving him 14 points and KU a 31-25 lead with 3:59 left before halftime.


Wright followed another Rush miss by getting whacked under the basket, and he hit one of two free throws to put KU up seven points late in the half. KU hasn't tried too much to hammer the paint, with the trio of Brewer, Horford and Noah all on the bench with two fouls apiece.

Green remained the only Florida starter to play consistent ball from start to finish, and hit one of two free throws on a trip to the line thanks to the bonus.

Rush answered on the other end with his first slashing deuce of the night off of a Wright feed. Humphrey answered, though, with another contested three-pointer, giving him 10 points in the half.

Wright scored his 16th and 17th points on an arcing jumper. Green hit two free throws on the other end, leaving KU with the last possession in the half. Wright gave a no-look feed to Jackson underneath, who went up strong but was fouled, earning one last trip to the line before the break.

Jackson hit one of two free throws to send KU into the break up 37-31.

Julian Wright has 17 points and six rebounds for KU. After shooting 9-of-33 Friday night from the floor in the first half, KU was 14-of-29 in the first 20 minutes against the Gators. Taurean Green and Lee Humphrey each have 10 for the Gators, who have played much of the first half without Joakim Noah, Al Horford and Corey Brewer thanks to foul trouble.


Chalmers followed a Julian Wright defensive rebound with a layup after working the baseline to start off the second half. But Noah was able to come back with a tough inside two, only to be responded to with another easy Chalmers hoop, keeping KU's lead at eight points.

Florida was able to electrify its entire sideline on the next possession, as Horford threw home a two-handed dunk in traffic while being fouled. Though he missed the free throw. Horford grabbed a defensive board on the other end off of a Chalmers miss, and fed Taurean Green for two in transition to pull Florida within four points at 41-37.

Darrell Arthur, who had struggled offensively all night, made a major defensive contribution to scrap away a board from Horford, and force the Florida junior back to the bench with his third foul.

Corey Brewer scored his first points of the half on the other end, following a Taurean Green miss on a deep three-point attempt.

After that, the Gators tried to force some full-court pressure, but it backfired as KU broke it, leaving Arthur with an easy two-point stuff. Then Arthur was going up for another defensive board on the next possession, and continued to play the role of foul magnet, drawing an over the back on Noah, sending him to the bench as well with a trio of personal fouls.


KU kept the highlights coming on the next possession, working in transition off of a spin move to send yet another no-look feed, this time to Darrell Arthur, for an easy two points to put KU up 46-39.

Florida's Corey Brewer then hit two free throws to keep Florida within five points, and with Noah and Horford back in the game, they forced Darrell Arthur to step out of bounds on the baseline on the other end.

Taurean Green responded with a three-pointer to pull Florida back within two points. An off-ballance Rush shot on the other end gave Florida the ball back, and an Al Horford emphatic finish off of a Joakim Noah miss tied the game up with 12:27 to play, building the UF run to 7-0.

Brandon Rush came out of a full timeout by hitting a three-pointer in the corner to send the Jayhawks into the television timeout back on top with just under 12 minutes to go, 49-46.


KU tied the ball up in a loose ball scramble out of the timeout to get the ball back, and Mario Chalmers scored for the third time in the second half on the way back down with a floater in the lane from straight on, putting KU back up 51-46.

Taurean Green continued to be Florida's best offensive option, hitting a straight-on three to give him 18 points and again make it a two-point game.

Green then tied the game again off of a steal with a coasting open-court layin.

Chalmers again was the best answer with a deep three on the right wing, giving him 12 points and KU another slim advantage.

After a lull in scoring, Robinson again gave KU a boost off of a Joakim Noah turnover with a leaner from the right block to put KU up 56-51 with 7:52 to go.


Corey Brewer continued a solid night - when he's been on the floor and not in foul trouble - with a three in the corner out of the break.

KU's defensive pressure forced Al Horford to try and beat the shotclock with an awkward looking three-point attempt. The result was a huge outlet pass to Wright, who scored his first points of the second half on a high-flying slam at the other end, again putting KU up four.

Florida regained the lead for first time since being up 2-0 on a series of stellar plays. First, Noah backed in the KU postmen for two off the glass. Then, Taurean Green was given another easy two on a fastbreak after the ball was swiped easily from Brandon Rush going up for a layup. Florida grabbed the 60-58 lead with 3:10 to go.


Julian Wright scored his 20th and 21st points out of the timeout after Darrell Arther kept a miss alive with an offensive rebound. Joakim Noah responded inside, but Arthur did him one better in the paint on a pass from Wright, tying the game, 62-62.

Robinson hit a deep two which was initially called a three-pointer, and KU looked like it would have a chance to seal it with free throws when Brandon Rush boarded a badly missed Green three attempt. But Noah ripped the ball loose and stuffed it home two-handed style to tie the game, 64-64, with less than a minute left.

KU took the ball downcourt and worked it inside to Darrell Arthur, who drew Joakim Noah's fourth foul of the game while going up inside. He hit the first, and then Florida called a timeout to try and freeze him.

Didn't work.

Arthur hit the second free throw with 33.2 seconds to go.

Florida had a chance to hold for the last shot, but the first pass after crossing midcourt by Taurean Green was tipped and taken by Russell Robinson, subsequently began the foulfest.

Arthur was sent to the line after an inbounds pass from Brandon Rush. The first shot curled in after hitting the back of the rim. He calmly sank the second one to put KU up four points with 22.5 seconds to go.

A foul was whistled on Sasha Kaun, sending Horford to the line in the bonus. He hit both with 16.9 ticks to go, and Florida was then called for a grabbing call on Taurean Green, sending Russell Robinson to the line.


Robinson hit both free throws, and as Dick Vitale screamed over the airwaves that Kansas did not want to foul, the Jayhawks did just that as Brewer sank a layup on the baseline. He missed the free throw. Taurean Green missed a three off the rebound, but Joakim Noah's tip-in sent the game to overtime, tied 70-70.


Al Horford scored the first point of overtime by hitting the front end of a two-shot opportunity.

Arthur responded on the other end after an offensive rebound, hitting a 15-foot jumper in the lane to put KU up 72-71.

Lee Humphrey re-welcomed himself to the contest offensively for the first time since the first half, hitting a three-pointer on the other end.

But Arthur again did him better.

Arthur scored a hoop-and-harm on the other end, but more importantly fouled Horford out of the game with 3:20 to go in the overtime. Arthur missed the free throw, leaving the game tied, 74-74.

Mario Chalmers followed a big Brandon Rush block on the other end by drawing a foul and hitting another one of two free throws, but Humphrey continued his big-moment theatrics with another three to put Florida up 77-75.

Humphrey then drew a huge offensive foul on Chalmers on the other end, giving Florida even more of an upper hand. KU took down a defensive rebound as Humphrey missed another three-point attempt, and called timeout with just over two minutes to go, still trailing 77-75.


Robinson came out of the timeout by finding Brandon Rush underneath for an inside layin to tie the game, 77-77.

Florida's outside touch didn't go away, as Green hit another three to give him 25 points and give Florida its biggest lead of the night at 80-77.

Darrell Arthur earned another turn at the foul line, only to hit another two, making it a one-point game again. On the defensive side, Julian Wright swooped in to grab a loose ball on the floor and signal a timeout, giving KU the ball back down one point with 40.8 seconds to play.

Rush scored off of a Chalmers drive out of the timeout to give KU another lead, 81-80, and Corey Brewer aired a jumper on the opposite end, giving the ball back to KU. Green fouled Robinson.

The junior guard finished his night by hitting one of two free throws. Off the miss, Brewer got a shot at an open three-pointer to win the game, but missed it short, and KU finished off the 82-80 win, beating a No. 1 ranked team for the first time since knocking off UMass in 1994.

Florida's Taurean Green led all scorers with 25 points, but KU had five players notch at least 12 points, led by Julian Wright's 21. Darrell Arthur had 19, Rush and Chalmers each scored 13 and Robinson finished with 12.

The 5-1 Jayhawks take on Dartmouth Tuesday night at 7 p.m. at Allen Fieldhouse.


jwel2nd 14 years, 6 months ago

Rock Chalk, "overseashawk" in Ireland, this is the Indonesian Jayhawk from western Kansas originally. Could you contact me off list at ? I'd like to talk with you about that slingmedia. You wouldn't believe how many Indonesia Jayhakers I have met here only by wearing a KU tie. Thanks.

rodneyking 14 years, 6 months ago

Is there a petition to fire Self and Mangino? I want to sign it.

Self should be fired

Mangino should be fired.

fansincewilt 14 years, 6 months ago

Thanks for pointing out that the Bill Self haters are not true Jayhawk fans. I was worred that maybe some of our fans wanted us to get rid of the best college basketball coach in the nation, even though he has yet to prove that. Given time, Self will prove to be the greatest one of all if he can keep the kind of energy used to get these kind of teams.

nbnozzy 14 years, 6 months ago

I miss the old days of Larry Brown when the Jayhawks would kick the opponent when they were already down. Neither Roy or Bill will do this. KU lets their rivals back into the games too often. I love our basketball team, but the players still are not hungry enough to go out and win every game decisively. Florida wasn't good enough to stay that close. I think the KU players relaxed too much thinking they had an easy win early in the second half. Ya gotta stay "hungry".

brooksmd 14 years, 6 months ago

"I would have to say the ORU loss is a distant memory now!" (jayloco) Personally I hope it is never a distant memory. The need to remember that game is as important as remembering tonights game. ORU is what happens when you don't come prepared; and Fla is what happens when you do. Those 2 fouls at the end of regulation were stupid. On the other hand, when Fla fouls with 16 secs left before the ball is in play, that is intentional. Period. And mugging a guy going to the basket with less than 10 secs left is still a foul. But great game and win. The boys needed that. Glad I stayed at work to watch the last half rather than drive home and miss it. WOW!!!

97jhawk 14 years, 6 months ago

Looks like Phog Fire found a new login name in Fire_Marshall Bill. You damn Mizzou fan you! Why don't you take yourself and your ex-Quinny whinny azzz outta this msg brd. Go back to Wal-Mart Arena where if you wear Jorts it's still cool. Say hi to your cousin when you've got him/her bent over! Your negative attitude towards KU is NOT needed here. Hasta La Vista baby!!!! As far as the KU vs. Florida game....scoreboard...scoreboard!!!

dahandymn 14 years, 6 months ago

I'm listening to the game from Spain on internet radio! Its 6am right now at halftime. I have to listen to the Florida broadcast though because KU doesn't have one. Go Hawks!

afterONE 14 years, 6 months ago

Holy crap. I can't believe it. THIS IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!

rockchalkAZ 14 years, 6 months ago

So are all you Self haters over Oral Roberts now?

jayloco 14 years, 6 months ago

afterONE-awesome it was! As many posters to this BB mentioned a couple of weeks back after the ORU loss, this win more than makes that loss bearable. What a game. Best college game I have seen in November ever for the Hawks. What a win. We tried to give it away at the end of regulation, but give credit to Self and the team for being mentally tough and not folding down the stretch. What a day for Kansas basketball. Shockers beat LSU and Hawks pull the upset of Florida. I know there is a growing animosity between Hawk and Shocker fans, but for one night, Kansas basketball reigns supreme!

dashaud721 14 years, 6 months ago

damn KU scared the hell out of but we got the win and thats all that matters.

jayhawker_97 14 years, 6 months ago

maaaan... i sure wished Rush should've dunked that last basket he made over Noah!!!! that would've made a heckuva highlight in ESPN.. it showed only a glimpse out of the awesome game!!!!

jayloco 14 years, 6 months ago

rockchalkAZ-I was not a "fire B.S." poster here, but I have voiced concerns over Self's coaching strategies. Much respect to Bill and the team. Not sure how much of this was coaching tonight. This was a group of KU players that wanted to show the nation their top billing was not a fluke. I would have to say the ORU loss is a distant memory now!

imagold 14 years, 6 months ago

Where are the "fire Bill" folks tonight???? Choking down the gator? Way to go Jayhawks!!!

jayloco 14 years, 6 months ago

jayhawker_97-not that it matters, but do you think that should have been an "AND 1"? Looks like replaying on the TIVO that Noah got arm as well. Whatever though, Hawks got the big W tonight!

jayloco 14 years, 6 months ago

imagold-they probably won't show for sure. It shouldn't be about them tonight though. This is a big time win for Self and this team. Showed we belonged with the best team in America. The college b-ball season is off to a great start

lee3022 14 years, 6 months ago

Great win guys. Maybe Gary Parrish of CBS Sportsline might want to rethink his piece today about Kansas needing to be worried about being blown out tonight!

jayloco 14 years, 6 months ago

Just out of curiousity. Did anyone catch Dickie V's comment about how KU fans may not truly appreciate what Roy did for our program? Thought that was an odd statement given the amount of people that love and respect Roy and what he did..

cpjayhawk 14 years, 6 months ago

Enjoy that plane ride home Florida...I know we will! Rock Chalk!

seattlehawk_78 14 years, 6 months ago

I would have rather seen a win in Columbia today but I'll take it. At the very least it says that the ORU loss was a fluke.

Imagold, the fire Bill folks will surface the next time we lose.

Patrick Wilbur 14 years, 6 months ago

Might have seen a preview of a Final Four matchup tonight - great November game. Congratulations Hawks

fansincewilt 14 years, 6 months ago

Florida couldn't hang with our guys. Zone all 2nd half. What a joke! Do their NBA players know they won't be able to make it at the next level if you can't guard. What a great win for Bill. I'm very happy for him and the guys.

lee3022 14 years, 6 months ago

Oh by the way - North Carolina lost this weekend along with most of the top 10.

asianspi 14 years, 6 months ago

ROCK....CHALK....... JAYHAWK............... K........U.................

jayloco 14 years, 6 months ago

fansincewilt-I think them playing zone was more predicated by their big guys being in foul trouble, but I did see that Noah and Horford were surprised and then frustrated by Wright.

mr_lawrence 14 years, 6 months ago

To all of you who said Self is a hack, that Brandon Rush can't score in the clutch, that we can't make free throws when it counts; EAT IT! This team is a contender for the whole thing.

trngchiefgary 14 years, 6 months ago

Probably the best game KU has played under Self. Shady didn't play like a freshman. Need to leave Sasha on the bench. Our inside guys manhandled Florida's inside people. Rock Chalk!

afterONE 14 years, 6 months ago

I do think Bill Self is doing a decent job of coaching these players. I think he catches a lot of flack because his teams seem to be lacking consistency. I will say this. If KU plays this season the way that they did tonight -- with that heart, and intensity, the consistency will come. The only thing KU did tonight consistently is fight. When they were up, they fought. When they were down, they fought. This has been that killer instinct that has seemed to lack this season. If KU keeps this up, and their wakeup called indeed was ORU -- then the Big 12 teams should watch out...because the Hawks are going downtown baby.

I am so elated for Bill Self. Hopefully this will get people off of his back. He didn't deserve all the criticism -- and now that he's got a great win underneath his belt, maybe people will get behind him again.

tis4tim 14 years, 6 months ago

What a great freakin' game...I'm...I'm...I'm type-less.

jared1426 14 years, 6 months ago

hey guys, I'm over here!! I said "fire bill self"! here I am, I surface even when we win!

fansincewilt 14 years, 6 months ago

Our offense broke down their man-to-man defense. At the end, their inability to guard made the difference. Our guards were too quick. However, I thought we might get beat by the 3 ball again. That 3 ball is our nemisis. Fortunately the guys were able to overcome those overtime 3's. We have a great team. I don't think we've seen the best game out of this group by a long shot.

mr_lawrence 14 years, 6 months ago

I thought you were being ironic.. but I guess it's just stupidity.

Dani Davey 14 years, 6 months ago

I'm pretty sure I suffered several heartattacks during that game. But oh my God, I couldn't have asked for anything more.

jwel2nd 14 years, 6 months ago

Just commenting on the Jayhawker in Spain. I am a Jayhawker in Indonesia and I also listened to the game on Yahoo Sports with the Florida bias. I am listening over "broadband" but it is a very weak connection. To you other guys out there trying to listen to the game over the internet, the Yahoo Sports audio is much better than or or And with Yahoo Sports, you get the statistics updated every few seconds also right in front of you. It's funny to hear the Florida bias and the announcers screaming when Florida made a three instead of some Jayhawker announcers. What is great is that we sent Florida home with a big L.

bankboy119 14 years, 6 months ago

I said Bill needed to go if he couldn't get it together. As long as KU shows consistency, as other people have pointed out, I think Self should stay. His recruits are wonderful. Julian and Brandon both had great games tonight now hopefully they will play at that level consistently.

Best game I've seen in a long time!

Mr_Sandman 14 years, 6 months ago

ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK BABY!!!! We can beat anyone in the nation when we play with heart and execute. Our team needs to approach every game like they are playing #1 and no one will stop us. Great win for the Hawks and maybe people can get off Self's back, he is a great guy and coach.

imagold 14 years, 6 months ago

Whoo hoo! Whoo hoo! Whoo hoo! It's just too exciting. You're right Jayloco, it's all about the Jayhawks tonight. (Nice of you to peek out jared1426.) Coach Self's reaction was priceless. I'm going to try and get some sleep now. What a game.

tis4tim 14 years, 6 months ago

I think Julian set the tone for the entire team. He was possessed. He was a supernova among a team of stars. The sparks coming off of him lit fires underneath the a$$es of everyone else. I think we may have found that leader we've been looking for.

fansincewilt 14 years, 6 months ago

There is no way to maintain that kind of intensity or consistency every game. This game clearly showed their talent level. It should give them even more confidence. I'm sure they will have a couple more down nights before this season is over. Every team that comes in to play us will be looking to knock us off. It's going to be an exciting year. What kind of player can this new kid Arthur be? He's got me amazed.

jared1426 14 years, 6 months ago

my pleasure imagold, i like you guys. you're my kind of peeps. great game.

Daggit 14 years, 6 months ago

yes, i heard dicky's comment but what i loved was he keep going on and on about the gators as the hawks where picking the gators clean. all in all i think both teams played one hell of a game.

Douglas Yetman 14 years, 6 months ago

Great game.... great for the team's confidence. Clearly the Hawks are talented and have the potential to beat anyone in the country. When we are good...we are very, VERY good!!!

The last 20 secs of regulation was about as poor of a demonstration of clock management as one could find. We did this same stuff in Missouril and lost. We have to manage close games better--know to not foul...use of time-outs, better execution beating the full court press.

Bone777 14 years, 6 months ago

This was a post directed at SNATCHSQUAT on the date of November 15 -

When KU sneaks up on Florida and gets a big win I hope to see you with the same passion saying:


kcmostwanted 14 years, 6 months ago

OHHHHH yeah baby (man i hate Dicky V) you could tell he was rootin for Florida all the way... but yeah great win for a good team... the scary part is that we can be even better...well that's not very scary at all.. once they play close to where coach wants them to play this will be a very interesting team.... I think we exposed many of the weaknesses that Florida had with their post players because everybody else wants to post up on them and that's hard to do but you gotta beat them w/ speed and brains..

Much Props go out to Dr. J wright and the Slim... the gaurds played very well too... Great team effort

For some reason i wish that was the National Champ game already (but i don't want college bball to end yet)

and who ever says this win isn't because of coaching should move to Columbia... Self came in w/ a game plan, the players executed, everyone stepped up their game and that gave them a victory..

kansasbb33 14 years, 6 months ago

Keep up the intensity Hawks. CONGRATULATIONS!

rockchalkAZ 14 years, 6 months ago

Funny how when we win, it wasn't the coaches, it was the players going out there and just playing. But when we lose, it was the coaching not getting the job done.

Ian Brown 14 years, 6 months ago

i don't know about you guys but am I the only one who absolutely cannot stand Joakim Noah? I honestly cannot stand him; everything from the way he looks (his hideous hair, KU needs to go ahead and cut that s off along with the nets this coming March), to the way he b*'s at the refs after every single call that doesn't go his way, to the way he plays (he's good and he doesn't play for the jayhawks therefore i don't like how he plays), to a number of other things i cannot stand about the guy... i don't know, maybe it's just me that feels that way about the guy but i felt the need to share my opinion after that outstanding performance by the Hawks.. Way to go Jayhawks, keep up the good work..

ColfromColorado 14 years, 6 months ago

I am a HCBS supporter. My prediction last year during Hawaii (remember KU getting thrashed there?) was KU would become a team no other team in America wants to have to play. Before the start of this year, I predicted that would be this year. The L to OR was a speed bump. The victory tonight was real. KU deserves being ranked #1 after beating #1.

rockchalkAZ 14 years, 6 months ago

Yeah he's a goof, but he is freakin good

chapdaddy 14 years, 6 months ago

I love Dicky V, but come on, DO NOT MENTION ROY, in this glorious moment.


yovoy 14 years, 6 months ago

march madness nah. november neurosis. there has been some good basketball on during this young season.

i loved how ju was just takin' to noah. i liked b-rush's late-game, baseline takes (both on noah), and there's an 'and one' argument that could be made. the most telling shot i saw was when darrell caught the pass around the f/t line, noah didn't come get him. da just looked at him at drained the 15 footer. this kid is a freshman! oh, and ju is "ONLY" a sophomore.

Evan Ridenour 14 years, 6 months ago

I am glad we won but honestly we didn't deserve the win after screwing up bigtime TWICE seconds before the end of regulation. That was sloppy period.

Other then those two instances though we dominated the game and someone stepped up and responded after every big Florida play. That is what a championship team does, I hope we can carry that sort of consistency and drive for the win on through march.

overseashawk 14 years, 6 months ago

for you guys living in Spain and Indonesia....check out I'm living in Ireland and I get to WATCH all of the games live. Although it means that I has to stay up all night but it's worth it!

We looked great tonight! I don't think that Rush is as comfortable with the flow of the game as he will be at the end of the year. Seems like his rhythm (sp?) is a bit off. If you look at his shooting percentage it's not great. BUT at least the good thing is that we're good enough that we don't have to center our offense around our All-American! I know that Florida doesn't either but imagine Gonzaga or Duke last year without Morrison or Redick....NIT baby!

Kyle Crenshaw 14 years, 6 months ago

anyone else think the way j wright juked out noah, then went around horford and slammed it in on the other side of the rim was a freakin amazing play?!?!?! we almost blew it but we did something we couldnt do last year, fight back and finish out a game! ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK BABY!!!

Kyle Crenshaw 14 years, 6 months ago

btw, i'll trade a ku football loss for a basketball win against the #1 team anyday!!!

Jacob Pool 14 years, 6 months ago

What a game guys... thats all i can say What A Game!!!!!!!

John Spencer 14 years, 6 months ago

Bait? Is that all they could come up with?

overseashawk 14 years, 6 months ago

Hey Jim...who do you propose is a better coach than Bill Self? We could hire Dana Altman or Danny Nee!!!! Just wake up and realize that Bill Self is doing a great job in Lawrence. If you really want to analayze KU basketball you have to look at the fact that we haven't won a national championship in 18 years. Roy would have gotten there eventually....Bill Self...who will never go anywhere else (unlike Roy or Larry Brown) will win one eventually. I'm not guaranteeing it will be this year but it will happen. PLUS, Bill Self is a much better recruiter than Roy. I sure as hell bet you don't miss recruits like Kenny Gregory or Brian Nash....

mr_lawrence 14 years, 6 months ago

You Self nay-sayers just don't get it. A young, talented team without a great coach could not have finished out that game. It's hard to believe that even after a huge win like this you're still calling for his head. SHUT UP!!!

KyleXY 14 years, 6 months ago

I hate listening to Vitale; he can't let a second go by without babbling. I couldn't care less about how many brothers some player has, how nice his mother is, or any other trivial crap that flows endlessly from Vitales mouth.

Fire both Self and Mangino!

mr_lawrence 14 years, 6 months ago

ps: the hi-lo looked pretty damn good tonight against the (supposed) best frontcourt in the game!

krtoal 14 years, 6 months ago

Guys and Gals:

Finding a way to win, particulary this early in the season, is paramount. Bill is the wave of the future for KU...for the Bill haters out there, Roy's teams would have choked, and would have not had the Darrell Arthur's and Julian Wright's to withstand the fear that would have made Raef, Scot, Dwight, Nick, and Aaron blow it for us down the stretch.

As a number of poster's have said, we are not even hitting on all cylinders yet; when Julian and Sasha get their groove back form last year, and Darnell and Brandon get more and more comfortable, this team, as evidenced from tonight's performance, will be incredibly difficult to beat. The ORU loss could not have come at a better time.

Bill can recruit the crap out of Roy, and don't forget, he is a huge 'step on the throat' proponent. As these guys (three sophomores, a junior and a freshman starting) continue to mature, KU is going to be THE team to beat.

feefifofum 14 years, 6 months ago

I hate myself for hating Self. He had them playing Wright tonight. But, let's not Rush into thinking that we are now #1. A game like this does hold out hope for the dream season. ROCK CHALK Jayhawk - I need sleep.

FireMarshall_Bill 14 years, 6 months ago

Everyone gets lucky once every three years! Enjoy it, this will be the biggest win for the season. Why couldn't a Self team do this in the NCAA tournament? Because Bill Self is a pathetic coach! Bill has to go!

Fire Bill Self!!!!!!!!!!

shawnjschaffer 14 years, 6 months ago

Bill Self hatters are not KU fans. If u are a true fan than u should love Bill Self. This is a guy that got a player like Julian Wright to commit to him without even visiting the campus. I expect KU to beat the best of teams because we are one of the top 3 basketball programs in the nation. And the reason is because we have a tradition better than any team out there and Self believes in it. So all you Self hatters get used to him being a part of are traditon because he is going to bring us championships. He has the right guys and we know it, now it is up to them to play like champions and I saw it tonight. These guys played hard, and don't get me wrong wow there is room for improvements. Get excited about these guys because they are on cloud nine and it is time to kick ass. In conclusion if you can respect the players on the team than quit giving Self hell, Because in all due respect he is recruiting the best players for the altimate goal, winning it all.

larkandtyler 14 years, 6 months ago

Does anyone find it amusing that a stadium 70% full of KU fans rushed the field and destroyed $10,000 worth of goal posts after beating a 7-5 football team (KSU), but in a stadium 90% full of KU fans no one left the stands and just waved the wheat proudly after knocking off our first #1 team (Florida) since 1994?

Kyle Crenshaw 14 years, 6 months ago

KU wouldnt be near as good or have any of the players we do now if it wasnt for Self!

cobweb 14 years, 6 months ago

Without the 3's Florida would have lost by 15.

true_fan 14 years, 6 months ago

"Fire Bill Self". Who moderates this board? How about "suggest removal" and get the idiotic comments off the board. Talk about moronic statements made by small minded individuals. I can't believe I stooped to acknowledging them.

Rock Chalk, Jayhawk

nanuq 14 years, 6 months ago

This was my first chance to see KU this year, and I must say Arthur is a revelation. His low post game is far beyond his years, a welcome addition to go with Jackson. Sasha Scissorhands is still testing his knee. He'll be better, and we'll need all the minutes we can get from him. Kleinman will probably play more than Self would like with Giles gone. Overall, our front line held up better against Florida's bigs than I dared dream. Wright and Arthur make up for lack of bulk with poise and skills most guys their size don't have. It's good to see both hitting the mid-range jumper, too. If they can do that consistently they'll be a match-up nightmare for anyone.

I'll take KU's current back court over any they've ever had, period.

BTW, KU has fired one coach in its history. Guess who that was.

lee3022 14 years, 6 months ago

I am surprised to note discussion here on firing Bill Self. One thing that separates this program from many others is our stability. We do expect excellence from our basketball team but please go back and look at how the traditions have been earned - many years of excellent effort and competition but only a few championships. That is true of all universities except UCLA and them not recently. Bill Self is an amazing recruiter and coach who has caused his teams to overachieve throughout his career (last year was yet another example). The first goal of any college basketball program as far as on-court success goes, is to win the conference championship. The past two years the KU men's basketball team has done so under Bill Self. Well done! The NCAA tournament is just that - a tournament. We ended with a loss every year under Roy Williams just like Bill Self. But both coaches have brought us great excitement and enjoyment year after year. Thanks to all the KU coaches of all the sports (most never get mentioned).

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