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Saturday, November 4, 2006

Final: KU pulls out first road win, 41-10

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AMES, Iowa - Kansas University football coach Mark Mangino has stuck by his guns, making sure that whoever starts at quarterback won't be revealed until kickoff today at 1 p.m. in Ames, Iowa.

All three KU gunslingers - freshman Kerry Meier, freshman Todd Reesing and senior Adam Barmann - threw during warm-ups, but whoever it is that gets the nod will have a load to carry. In Mangino's nearly five years at KU, the Jayhawks have won just three games, and only one of them has come against a Big 12 Conference oppoenent. If Kansas hopes to play in the postseason for the third time in four years, a win today against 3-6 Iowa State is imperative.

The Jayhawks broke into the conference win column last week by taking care of Colorado, 20-15 in Lawrence. It bumped the Jayhawks to 4-5 on the season, two wins away from bowl eligibility with three games to play. Iowa State is still winless in conference play, and enters today's game 3-6, meaning the Cyclones cannot afford another loss if they want to fulfill their own postseason aspirations.

FIRST QUARTER

Iowa State won the coin toss and deferred the decision to the second half, meaning Kansas began the game with the ball.

Freshman Kerry Meier took the Jayhawks out onto the field for the game's opening possession. His first pass attempt was dropped on second-and-11, and on a third-down scramble, Meier picked up eight yards before fumbling the ball away while being twisted to the ground. The result was Iowa State ball at the KU 26-yard line.

IOWA STATE 3, KANSAS 0

The Cyclones were unable to do much, thanks to a five-yard loss on first down by freshman Josh Johnson. Bret Culbertson ended the minimal drive with a 36-yard field goal.

The Jayhawks' next drive simply brought more of the same. It was cementer when Kerry Meier went down in a heap between Iowa State's Ahtyba Rubin and Shawn Moorehead. But KU earned a second life, as James Smith muffed the Kyle Tucker punt, and Joe Mortensen pounced on it for KU, setting the Jayhawk offense back up at its own 46-yard line.

KANSAS 6, IOWA STATE 3

On a third-and-six, Brian Murph ran a hook route on the near sideline, where Meier spotted him for first-down yardage. Murph turned left, though, and burned 51 yards down the sideline for the Jayhawks' first score of the game. Scott Webb's extra point was blocked, however, due to a low snap. The pass was Meier's second completion of the game, with the first coming on a three-yard shovel pass to Jon Cornish earlier in the drive.

The Jayhawk defense forced a three-and-out, capped by Jeff Wheeler deflecting Bret Meyer's third-and-four pass right at midfield from his defensive end post. It squandered a Milan Moses kick return back to the Iowa State 45.

Jonathan Lamb returned the punt to the KU 30, as the Jayhawk defense is still yet to allow a Cyclone first down.

KU's drive never got off the ground, though, as Cornish has been stumped so far with the blal in his hands. The senior, who went over 1,000 yards for the season last week against Colorado, has five yards on hsi first five carries.

But the KU defense was again stout. Meyer completed two short passes to give the Cyclones their first first down of the game, but then Meyer imploded. First came an eight-yard loss on a sack from Paul Como, and then an interception right into the waiting arms of Aqib Talib - his fifth pick of the season.

To start the next KU drive, Todd Reesing entered the game at quarterback, and completed his first pass to tight end Derek Fine. A 15-yard personal foul call moved to ball down to the Cyclone 33-yard line.

A holding call knocked KU back 10 yards, but kept the Jayhawks in Iowa State territory. Following a 6-yard scramble on first-and-20, Reesing threw an incompletion in the left flat. He scrambled again on third down for eight yards to set up KU with a fourth-and-six at the 29-yard line.

In a tough spot, with the wind in their face, the Jayhawks were forced to go for it.

KANSAS 13, IOWA STATE 3

Reesing held off as long as possible, then floated a pass into the front-right corner of the end zone, where Fine went up for a jump ball with ISU's Jason Harris. After conferring on who actually had the ball, the refs signaled touchdown in front of the Jayhawk cheering section, sending it into a frenzy. The play was reviewed, and the call stood. Webb's extra point put KU up 10 points.

SECOND QUARTER

A James McClinton sack on second-and-long helped KU stomp out another ISU possession, and Lamb was given a small lane on the far sideline on the punt return, setting KU up at the Iowa State 44.

To start the second quarter, Meier took the offensive reins again.

Cornish started the drive with a seven-yard carry up the right side, and his second straight tote set KU up with a third-and-one at the 35.

Meier snuck the ball up the middle to give Kansas a first down, and on the next snap he threw a quick screen to freshman Jake Sharp, who was split out wide, for a three-yard gain.

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On third-and-seven from the same yard marker where KU scored it's previous touchdown, Meier struck Marcus Henry, who escaped a defensive grasp right at the first down marker, and picked up six more yards before being upended by a Cyclone defender.

Cornish took the ball from the 16 down to within two yards of the gaol line before fumbling. Iowa State pounced on it, leaving their offense in the shadow of its own goal post.

But Iowa State's offensive ineptitude continued. The Cyclones were able to muster their way for a first down, but KU pressure, especially from Mike Rivera and Paul Como, forced another punting situation.

Meier took the offense back onto the field, with the ball at the Iowa State 43.

KANSAS 20, IOWA STATE 3

With that field position, Meier led the Jayhawks on their most efficient drive of the game. Led by runs of five and nine yards from Cornish, a seven-yard pass to Lamb and a Meier keeper down to the Iowa State three, KU made scoring not look so tough. Meier executed a perfect play action pass and dropped a three-yard pass over the shoulder of Fine, who hauled in his second score of the day. Webb's extra point put KU up 20-3 with 5:23 to go until halftime.

Iowa State finally began to move the ball somewhat efficiently on its next drive, with the big play coming on a 19-yard hitter from Meyer to fullback Ryan Kock to set the Cyclones up inside the Jayhawk 40.

But Kansas' defense held again, this time forcing an incomplete pass on fourth-and-six to get the ball back at its own 31.

KU made it a serious reality that they could score again before halftime, when Meier sold the Cyclone secondary on a pump fake and hit Lamb 43-yards downfield for a catch in which he had to lunge to his shoelaces to grab it while in full stride. It put Kansas at the Iowa State 23 with just over 90 seconds to go in the half.

Two plays later, Kansas neared the first-down marker on a nine-yard pass to Marcus Henry on a hitch route against the near boundary. The ball was roughly six inches short of the first-down marker. A Meier sneak gave KU a fresh set of downs at the 13-yard line with 1:06 to go.

Meier hit Lamb again for a nine-yard gain to the four-yard line.

KANSAS 27, IOWA STATE 3

Kansas made Iowa State's halftime that much gloomier with 23 seconds to go, as Meier pitched to Brandon McAnderson from the four-yard line on third-and-one. McAnderson looked like he was going to throw back to Meier in the end zone, but instead tucked it up the middle himself to give Kansas 27 unanswered points since the first quarter.

HALFTIME

Kerry Meier was 11-of-15 in the first half for 152 yards and two touchdown passes. Reesing was 2-of-3 for 29 yards and a TD pass of his own. Jonathan Lamb has had a career-day so far, posting career-bests in receptions (3) and receiving yards (59). He also has three punt returns for 49 yards.

THIRD QUARTER

Iowa State certainly started hot. On the Cyclones' first offensive snap, Meyer hit Moses for a 30-yard gain to midfield. He hit him on the next two plays as well to set up a third-and-three at the Kansas 43. A Meyer scramble gave the 'Clones another first down.

But true to form, nothing came of it. Kock fumbled on a third-and-three deep in KU territory, and it was quickly scooped by Jerome Kemp, giving KU the ball at its own 27-yard line.

KU's next drive not only got the clock moving, but the chains as well. A pair of first downs came right off the bat on a four-yard McAnderson run and a nine-yard connection from Meier to Murph, setting Kansas up three yards deep in Iowa State territory. The drive stalled out, though, when Meier was sacked by Mike Curvey on third-and-10, forcing Kyle Tucker to punt for the second time. A fair catch was called for at the 15-yard line.

KANSAS 34, IOWA STATE 3

After forcing a three-and-out against Iowa State, KU received a gift when ISU punter Mike Brandtner dropped the punt snap, and was rocked by Tang Bacheyie at the two-yard line, giving KU golden field position.

From there, it took Todd Reesing, back at quarterback, one play to stretch over the goal line, ballooning Kansas' lead to more than four touchdowns with 6:23 to play in the quarter.

Joe Mortensen sacked Iowa State quarterback Bret Meyer to bring yet another Cyclone drive to a thud, finished with a punt. This time, Lamb took a fair catch at the KU 20.

Reesing made his first mistake of the day, though, when KU took the ball back. After a holding call, on third-and-14, Reesing threw a panicked shovel pass right into the gut of Iowa State's Shawn Moorehead.

And it took Iowa State one play to give it back in the form of a Johnson fumble. From there, Cornish continued to swing the momentum with a 32-yard run to the KU 42-yard line. That was followed by a 17-yard McAnderson scamper, and a pair of eight-yard runs by Meier to put KU at the Iowa State 25 at the end of the third quarter.

FOURTH QUARTER

KU continued to step on ISU's throat, going for it on a fourth-and-three at the Cyclones' 18. The result was a six-yard hookup from Meier to Lamb, giving KU a first down at the 12.

KANSAS 41, IOWA STATE 3

A KU hold on first down put KU back at the 22, making it first-and-20. Meier threw a swing pass to Fields to get back to the original line of scrimmage on the next play. Two snaps later, he hit Lamb for the fifth time, and Lamb sucked in a huge hit to extend to the first down, giving KU four chances at six points from three feet out. But the Jayhawks only needed one. McAnderson scored his second touchdown with 11:11 left, all but sealing the game with a 41-3 lead.

After forcing Iowa State into a turnover on downs, Reesing had his second fumble of the day, dropping a shotgun snap which was fallen on by Iowa State's John Machado. Luckily for the Jayhawks, though, a 38-point lead with 7:30 left should be pretty safe.

KANSAS 41, IOWA STATE 10

Iowa State is still playing for pride, as they drove off of the turnover down into the KU red zone for the third time in the game - all off of turnovers. A Meyer pass to Austin Flynn on second-and-six from the 12 gave the Cyclones first-and-goal at the three. KU's defense tightened momentarily, forcing a Meyer incompletion and then stuffed Kock at the one-yard line on second down. He scored on his next touch, though, for Iowa State's first touchdown of the game - a cosmetic one, at that.

FINAL: KANSAS 41, IOWA STATE 10

A Kyle Tucker punt puts the Cyclones on their own 15 after ISU's R.J. Sumrall returned the kick nine yards. Iowa State managed one play before the clock ran out, giving the Jayhawks their second straight win and first road victory of the season in a 41-10 decision in Ames.

Comments

PutInSpoon 13 years, 2 months ago

Florida uses this strategy now. And last time I checked they're the fourth best team in the country. Mangino isn't as stupid as you guys think he is.

rgreene 13 years, 2 months ago

Yeah, but Florida also used it a few years back with Noah Brindise and Jesse Palmer, and it was a complete disaster. Today, though, it's worked pretty well.

nikesasquatch 13 years, 2 months ago

Unfortunately Iowa State is making Meier look good because of having so many injured starters. This does not look good for KU. Mangino will go with Meier in the next game when KU really needs Reesing. Hopefully Reesing can bring KU back in two weeks after Meier spots KSU several points. Don't put the Iowa State game in the win column yet because Mangino is likely coming up with a game plan at halftime that will get Iowa State back in the game.

William James 13 years, 2 months ago

new balance sasquatch wants to compare our coach to Glen Mason and Bill Snyder. Okay, lets see-after Mangino won a bowl game last year he didnt accept a job offer from Georgia and then change his mind a few days later and decide to stay and then take a job with Minnesota. Oh yea, and he treats Kansans with respect and he and his family dont act like they are too good to be here. As far as Bill Snyder, well he retired a year ago but if one Of you Mangino haters think you can talk his old butt out Of retirement then let everyone know and we will talk. Until then though count your lucky stars we have Mangino. Most Of you guys have never seen a football program go from being terrible to good.
What you dont understand is that we have seen very significant progress under Mangino. Do you idiots think Bill Snyder snaped his fingers and turned KSU into one Of the most respected programs in the counrty. Read his book! Read my lips-IT TAKES TIME!

nikesasquatch 13 years, 2 months ago

It looks like only one Meier brother will be holding the clipboard in two weeks. However there is still a second half against Iowa State and practices, so don't count out Kerry yet in joining his brother.

GIHAWK 13 years, 2 months ago

We get our first road win of the season and all you guys can do is complain...I have two words: Terry Allen

nikesasquatch 13 years, 2 months ago

Moses is really parting KU's kick-off coverage. It is a good thing KU has such a gigantic lead. Mangino and Meier will get lots of pats on the back for this KU performance but the biggest pats should be on the backs of all the injured Iowa State starters.

cdorssom 13 years, 2 months ago

I realize this forum is for your opinions, but many of you are showing your ignorance. Most, if not all of you, know nothing about coaching, but think you're qualified to decide who should play, and when they should play. Get off Mangino's back, it's depressing. Enjoy the good play so far today.

nikesasquatch 13 years, 2 months ago

If I am not mistaken C.J. Giles is Chester Giles Jr. Mangino taking all of the blame wouldn't be fair. Meier, Barmann, and the defense has at times been completely inept at times also. Mangino is taking the heat because you can't fire the players. You can only fire the coach. Reesing also knows when to make mistakes. None of the mistakes Reesing made put KU in jeopardy of losing the game. Reesing scored when he had to score. It is easy to lose your focus when the game is out of hand or the competition is less than stellar. Reesing is the future of KU football and it would be refreshing if KU fans would show support for him. Josh Freeman took over for the senior Meier at KSU and Reesing should take over for the Meier at KU. KU doesn't have to only be a basketball school. They could have been undefeated like Louisville except Louisville has a coach.

voodoo 13 years, 2 months ago

Thank You, the REAL sasquatch has spoken the FINAL WORD .

Walters_was_the_man 13 years, 2 months ago

We all need to keep in my mind that KU is playing Iowa State-the worst team in one of the worst divisions of major conferences. Let's wait until they get clobbered by Mizzou and then we'll all be saying we wished Mangino put his faith in Reesing so thata this freshman who gave up his red shirt can develop for next year. Mangino is not only indecisive; he is myopic in his decision-making. KU is looking like world beaters against this team today, but I'm still saying.... Reesing is the future.

Todd 13 years, 2 months ago

Haha some of you people amaze me. Yes, Iowa State isn't a very good team but we come out with a 31 point victory and finally stepped on an opponents throat instead of letting them back into the game and yet there are still people saying "Fire Mangino!" and "he never learns". Now I admit that I didn't get to see the game, but based on the summary you guys want a qb who fumbled 2 times in 2 opportunities vs one who helped us score our highest point total in conference play. I mean under your logic lets fire Bill Self because he only beat Washburn by 30 points and his team couldn't break that 100 point barrier.

And to that guy that said we will NOT get a bowl bid. I think we will, if eligible, because KU fans tend to travel so well. That is often a bigger factor than who you beat during the season.

Kyle Crenshaw 13 years, 2 months ago

how about that defense? forcing 3 turnovers and giving up only 3 pts so far! keep it up hawks!

nikesasquatch 13 years, 2 months ago

TOUCHDOWN REESING! HE DOES IT AGAIN! THE LAKE TRAVIS HIGH SCHOOL PRODUCT BURNS THE CYCLONES FOR ANOTHER TD!

nikesasquatch 13 years, 2 months ago

Lets fire Bill Self for letting Chester Giles back on the team and for losing in the first round of the NCAA tournament for the third straight year!

speedy 13 years, 2 months ago

after 50 years plus of ku football and watching only a handfull of good teams i wonder what you stupids will think if and when magino gets a little luck to go with his coaching! do not fire somone who is improving a little bit each year. how many games were lost this year by one pt? wheres the 60 pt. oklahoma,neb, texas blowouts? shut up and chear!

Dan Harris 13 years, 2 months ago

anybody know what Meir's injury was,(is ?)

nikesasquatch 13 years, 2 months ago

There weren't 60 point blowouts because KU doesn't have to play Oklahoma or Texas. Were any games lost this year by one point? I'd like to think people won't jump back on Mangino's bandwagon after KU beat one of the worst defenses in the Big 12 when healthy and they weren't even that. If KU can beat both KSU and Missouri then perhaps Mangino can earn some respect.

Pbbut 13 years, 2 months ago

Thanks Displayhawk. I don't think I've ever read more nonsense since my last visit to an MU board. The problem this entire year has been defense, but it's so much harder to pick out a whipping boy than a QB that stands in front of everyone.
My biggest concern with Meier is durability. Now if he's still making poor decisions passing in two years, then come back and talk to me. How many times have we scored 30 points and lost this year? How many late leads have we lost? How many long pass plays have we chased down the field all year? Do we run out of gas? Do we have conditioning issues? We should be able to coach ourselves out of these late game failures, we've had plenty of "learning" situations.
Meier's performance is not reflected in our record.

Todd 13 years, 2 months ago

I understand these boards are open and free for people to vent their opinions and what I or anyone else says isn't going to change anybody's opinion. However, it's clear that some people coughnikesasquatchcough come here just to rile people up and really have little basis behind their opinions.

A lot of you want to act like Reesing is the second coming. I do not dispute his talent. But in his two game appearences it is evident that he is turnover prone. He hasn't gotten hurt yet, but he's smaller than Meier and plays very similar to Whittemore who stayed healthy for awhile and then had knee problems. Meier isn't without fault either. He has had his share of picks and seems to have shoulder problems early in his collegiate career. While I support Mangino, he has problems as well. He is too loyal to Nick Quartaro, who calls a more pradictable game than the Ask Corso option on EA sports NCAA football.

But your guys' problems with the team are just rediculous. The Nebraska situation is dumb to bring up because I consider it rediculous to fire a coach who won 9 games just because the fans aren't satisfied that they've lost their precious prestige. That's not commitment, it's lunacy. You guys say well lets compare Mangino to Mason, not Allen. Fine. The truth is that no coach in our history has taken the program to bowl games in consecutive years and while Mangino hasn't done it yet we still have a chance....but you're right. Let's fire him anyway. You say let's bench the QB we started the year with for Reesing because he played pretty well vs the basement dweller in the Big 12 for 1 half and Meier hasn't done anything horribly wrong other than get hurt. And somebody wanted a QB controversy heading into next year, while it is clear that Mangino likes to go with experience and Reesing would have 0 if he didn't pull the redshirt to keep our bowl chances alive.

And lastly, regardless of what I've said or you said or anybody thinks, Mangino is coaching for his players. He, and rightly so I might add, wants his players to be able to experience a bowl. So he doesn't give a damn what you fools think about his decision to pull Reesing's redshirt when he knows that it kept alive hope to give his players (seniors especially) an opportunity for postseason play

nelson 13 years, 2 months ago

I don't get it so he used his red shirt it would have ment we had him for one more year after meier. So what!!!!!

monkeyspunk 13 years, 2 months ago

nikesasquatch:

You are right on. It is about the coach. The coach must recruit quality talent and then motivate them to succeed. If he fails, then he fails and should be replaced. Nebraska fired a ten win coach! THAT is commitment to a football program.

People here are all too happy to say "Well atleast we have basketball." Well, I am sorry, that is pretty sad. We are a major D-I school. There is no reason why we should settle for success in only one sport.

If the school keeps riding the Mangino express, then I guess the only hope for a major success in major Men's sports is Baseball.

Schools like Rutgers, Louisville, Wake Forest and a few other smaller schools are having incredible seasons in football, and will very likely all be in the NCAA BBall tournament this year. Not to mention the large schools like Maryland, Texas, and Oklahoma.

filmhawk 13 years, 2 months ago

hey walters - if you are saying mangino is an idiot for burning reesing's red shirt this year - i agree. i'm happy about today, but i'm disturbed that mangino either a) can't evaluate talent, or b) felt like he had to salvage his job by burning reesing's red shirt this year at the cost of the team down the line. i would rather have run out our season this year with barman and looked forward to a qb controversy next spring. mangino is a fat, fat, man.

rgreene 13 years, 2 months ago

Just a thought - KU probably wouldn't have won last week (and might not have a shot at bowl eligibility) had Mangino not burned the redshirt for Reesing when he did. Again, just a thought. Discuss amongst yourselves.

nikesasquatch 13 years, 2 months ago

Who forgot to tell Mangino to start Reesing instead of Meier. Already as expected Meier has screwed up. Mangino should be fired for simply benching the only quarterback who can beat Iowa State. It looks like Reesing is going to have to come in behind on the scoreboard and win the game again.

Dan Spurgin 13 years, 2 months ago

Uh... my earlier support for Meier is looking pretty smart right now. Honestly... I like Reesing as a passer better though as a runner he looks like he's an injury waiting to happen.

Plus that I like that Reesing is taking on engineering calc 2 -- I've seen KU's engineering calc and believe me... it's stronger than any Big 12 Defense he'll face. ;P

rgreene 13 years, 2 months ago

True, though I'll bet you it would be good enough for the players who got to play in that bowl game. That's all that really matters, anyway.

filmhawk 13 years, 2 months ago

i don't have a problem with meier as qb. he hasn't stayed healthy, and he may be good college signal caller. but i still think we're wasting reesing's redshirt, because going to the "jerry's auto body paint and repair shop" bowl in tupelo, mississippi with a 6 and 6 record isn't exactly enticing enough for me.

voodoo 13 years, 2 months ago

sashquartch ,

dont show hate , show love

nikesasquatch 13 years, 2 months ago

It is a safe bet to think this Meier will always have shoulder problems like his brother at KSU. His situation got so so bad and his arm got so weak that Mr. Freeman is the man now. Kerry's arm will never be the same now and all it will take is one decent hard hit to send Kerry back under the clipboard. Why not go with somebody who doesn't get hurt and who has a cannon for an arm? Go Reesing!

nikesasquatch 13 years, 2 months ago

Is Mangino crazy? Meier obviously isn't healthy and Reesing is the better quarterback whether Meier is healthy or not. Mangino might be the worst x's and x's coach in NCAA history!

jayhawk20 13 years, 2 months ago

It's expert city on KUsports.com. Do your homework before commenting people. You guys are like a bunch of baseball fans that haven't read the rule book and yet complain to an umpire when they have no idea what the rules are.

Todd Simpson 13 years, 2 months ago

um pbbut look at all of the games KU scored 30 and then look @ how many times they lost then look @ how many times a KU QB threw and int for touchdowns or put KU in Really bad Defensive position then come back and then go with your blame it on the Defense....I personally think that the Defense has done a hell of a job but with too many offensive blunders.

Dan Spurgin 13 years, 2 months ago

If you got ANY chance to go to a bowl game - you easily burn a redshirt. Too much to be gained in recruiting and money.

The argument goes: burn the redshirt to get the bowl birth to get an even better player you can redshirt. Makes sense to me.

Steve Jacob 13 years, 2 months ago

Does everyone know if KU wins the last two games, they would of went to the title game IF they beat NU?

And wow, how far has ISU fallen in a year?

nikesasquatch 13 years, 2 months ago

When Glenn Mason was coach every Big 12 North team was better than they are now, including KU.

Also, back to back Forth Worth Bowl and Tangerine Bowl invitations isn't exactly excellence when teams like Louisville or Boise State are playing for BCS bowls.

nikesasquatch 13 years, 2 months ago

There will always be Meier lovers from KU just because he is from Kansas. It does the program no good for Meier to play a couple games and get hurt. Then you have to break in Reesing for a game or two before the "injury waiting to happen" is thrown back under center to only get hurt again. Any bets that Meier is hurt again in the KSU or Missouri game?

nikesasquatch 13 years, 2 months ago

Does everyone know KU would be playing for the national championship (or at least be undefeated) if Mangino could coach. ISU couldn't fall any further either. KU proved nothing in the ISU game other than Reesing is for real.

Nutflush21 13 years, 2 months ago

Did you not read the summary dg? The TD pass was a simple hitch route. Murph did the rest... Reesing needs to be in the game, he gives us the best chance to win.

nikesasquatch 13 years, 2 months ago

Congrats to Reesing and the Kansas Jayhawks. Now if Self didn't let Chester Giles back on the team the week would have been perfect. I guess Chester got his grades straightened out and paid all his back child support. ;)

jayhawk20 13 years, 2 months ago

One more win and it's another bowl game. Good job Jayhawks. I doubted Kerry Meier but he was effective today. More importantly, the defense dominated!

truefan 13 years, 2 months ago

My hope is finally coming back. I know Iowa State is a struggling team, but so are we and we needed that game bad. This game will help us when we meet K-State in two weeks. Thank you Mangino for pulling Reesing's red shirt. I just hope he finishes the job and gets us a bowl game or it will all be in vain.

Kyle Crenshaw 13 years, 2 months ago

this is funny, ku wins and mangino gets even more criticism. have anyone considered on laying the blame on any of the players? toledo, mangino didnt throw 5 ints and fumble it in ot, meier and cornish did (and dont say he should have noticed the injury because do u honostly think barmann would have done any better?). a&m, it wasnt mangino who couldnt make it on 3rd and 1, it was the o-line. nebraska, he obviously did something rite if they were able to come back from how far down they were, marcus henry just slipped and fell in the endzone in ot. osu and baylor, it wasnt mangino who gave up over 400 yds of pass defense to let these teams back in it, the d-backs did. and reesing, yea he played amazing last week and saved the season for ku but he has also fumbled, i think, 2 times or more each game so quit callin him the answer for ku because when meier has played this year, the ku offense has done enough to win. so lay off mangino, the only fault i see is not playin jake sharp more often although it was nice to see he got in for more than 1 play this week.

j94hawk 13 years, 2 months ago

I am just wondering......... If we win next Saturday, will we be bowl eligible?

nikesasquatch 13 years, 2 months ago

All I hear about is Terry Allen being the benchmark to compare Mangino to. How about making Glenn Mason the benchmark? Better yet, why not Bill Snyder? If Bill Snyder can turn around KSU like that, why can't KU beat Toledo? KSU is already bowl eligible and KU isn't. There isn't any excuse for that this year. If Mangino gets to a bowl game this year he deserves another year, but KU can't go 6-6 every year and go to the Tangerine Bowl or Forth Worth Bowl. That isn't good enough.

actorman 13 years, 2 months ago

hitme, you chose a strange time to rip Mangino, after KU's best game of the season. Believe me, I agree with a lot of your criticism, but give the guy a break; this was a great day to be a 'Hawk fan. (It's also interesting that nikeboy, from whom never has been heard an encouraging word, is silent now that KU has finished the job against ISU.)

As far as making a bowl game, there's an excellent chance that KU will make one with one more win. Even if 9 teams become eligible (which is still a big "if" at this point), KU would probably make it into one of the unaffiliated bowls that would need to fill a spot. But there's still a pretty good chance that only 8 Big 12 teams would become eligible, in which case KU would be guaranteed a spot. Of course if we can beat both KSuck and Mizzou, that would clinch it as well.

Walters_was_the_man 13 years, 2 months ago

Mangino needs to stop playing musical QBs. How does he expect any QB to improve if they're constantly being yanked from the game?

I guess it looks like Reesing is better. But just pick one and stick to him!! Mangino is too indecisive.

voodoo 13 years, 2 months ago

slirp , slirp, here we go again. cup 'em big boy. what is your credibility? until you have walked the walk. your comments have no value and are worthless. LaCostaNostra

Kyle Crenshaw 13 years, 2 months ago

maybe mangino should keep with the 2 qb strategy because for some reason it seems to be working

getserious 13 years, 2 months ago

Mangino's problem, pure and simple, is he can't evaluate quarterback talent. Every year he has been here, he has started the wrong quarterback. Then by the time he figures it out, we've lost two or three games.

William James 13 years, 2 months ago

All you Mangino and Meier bashers are idiots. They go on the road in conference and get a decisive victory. What is your guys problem.
If Terry Allen still ran the program the score would have been the same today except ISU would of had more points than us. Oh yeah, and instead of a 5-5 record, how does 1-9 sound with our only win coming against that 1AA school I cant even remember the name of. All you Terry Allen lovers continue to prove your ignorance every week.

George Diepenbrock 13 years, 2 months ago

Can I use Fine as my fantasy football tight end for this week's game? He's becoming a TD machine.

KyleXY 13 years, 2 months ago

The KU Marching Band was there today. Maybe they should go everywhere with the team.

or maybe we should just fire mangino. Win/win either way....literally.

filmhawk 13 years, 2 months ago

i agree nike - if the hoops team went .500 every year, and made the n.i.t. - which is the equivalent to the piece of crap bowl game we could get invited to, would people talk about how bill self is as good a coach as say, quin snyder? hell no! i'm sick and tired of hearing defense of the fat man. he's a mediocre coach at a big frickin' 12 school. and let's face it. the big 12 is down this year. and we're defending the man that may lead us to 9th place? give me a break!!!!! we just clobbered a terible team, and everyone wants to buy mangino a McRib sandwich and call him lombardi. there are coaches out there at lesser schools like louisville, west virginia, and boise state that would die to coach in a high profile league like we got. let's expect more.

Displayhawk 13 years, 2 months ago

Most of you guys are morons! You blast Coach M because he wasn't doing anything in your opinion to win the games. So he puts in Reesing (who by the way has been fumble-prone, and don't forget he threw an interception today!) and you guys still blast him. And the defense played well and is getting better each week! Even Talib said on the pregame show that it took him half the season to get comfortable and have the game slow down for him last year! We have a LOT of new starters on defense this year, so it was going to take time for them to develop! Don't tell me that this win was against a bad Iowa State team. KU has been in every game this season! Get off of Coach M and get a life! BTW, Nikesasquatch your ignorance is in full display! Bill Self did not reinstate Chester Giles! ......He reinstated Chester's son C.J. - Get a clue!

Kyle Crenshaw 13 years, 2 months ago

meier is playing amazing. what should be done, for now at least is have meier start and when the offense starts to struggle, bring reesing in for a spark off the bench. dont u think that would motivate meier to play his best all the time? it seems to be workin now

JazzEgle 13 years, 2 months ago

I think that Texas (or was it Texas A&M) used this strategy a few years back of switching QBs and it worked out great.

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