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Texas Tech defeats Kansas, 54-16

  • 11 a.m., Oct. 5, 2013
  • David Booth Kansas Memorial Stadium, Lawrence, KS

FINAL: Texas Tech rolls KU football, 54-16

After an encouraging start, the Kansas football team could not stop negative momentum in a 54-16 loss to No. 20 Texas Tech on Saturday at Memorial Stadium.

The meltdown started after KU took a 10-0 lead in the first quarter, as Tech scored the game's next 54 points.

The play that seemed to turn the tide completely was a failed fake punt by KU on fourth and 13 from its own 16 with six minutes left in the second quarter, as Trevor Pardula was tackled for no gain. Tech needed just two plays to score on the short field to make it 17-10, taking the lead for good.

Jake Heaps, operating out of a five-wide set most of the first half, completed 16 of 32 passes for 189 yards with a touchdown and interception.

Tony Pierson finished with six catches for 118 yards, but he left the game and did not return after suffering a head injury in the third quarter. KU coach Charlie Weis said after the game Pierson could miss significant time because of a concussion.

Linebacker Ben Heeney led the defense with 12 tackles — including two for loss — with an interception. Eleven of those tackles came in the first half.

KU (2-2) will play at TCU at 11 a.m. on Oct. 12.

Box score

HOW THEY SCORED

First Quarter

12:13 — Matthew Wyman 36 field goal. The Kansas defense stuffed Texas Tech on the game's first drive, with junior linebacker Ben Heeney coming up with an interception on third down to set the KU offense up in Texas Tech territory for its first drive. Five plays later, Wyman gave KU its first first-quarter points of the season. Jake Heaps hit Tony Pierson for 28 yards on the first play of the drive. (KU 3, TTU 0).

7:18 — Jimmay Mundine 25 pass from Jake Heaps. Wyman kick. After another stand by KU's defense, the Jayhawks drove 79 yards in nine plays and 4:03 on a mixture of passes and runs. Brandon Bourbon caught two passes, back-up quarterback Michael Cummings came in for a few plays to lead a KU running package and Heaps hit Pierson for 25 yards on third and 12 after back-to-back false start penalties. On the next play, Heaps found Mundine down the seam for the walk-on touchdown. (KU 10, TTU 10).

Second Quarter

11:20 — Ryan Bustin 23 field goal. Texas Tech picked up its first points of the day thanks in large part to the ground game. With KU's defensive backs and D-Line making life tough on QB Baker Mayfield, the Red Raiders ripped off eight straight runs to move deep into the red zone. The drive stalled when KU's corners, Dexter McDonald and JaCorey Shepherd stood tall inside the 10 and Tech settled for the three pointer. (KU 10, TTU 3).

7:46 — Kenny Williams 2 run. Bustin kick. After watching its offense get on the board, Texas Tech's defense forced the Jayhawks into a three-and-out and a long punt return gave the Red Raiders the ball inside KU territory. Nine plays and 42 yards later, Williams walked in to tie the game. Tech's drive spanned 2:22 and featured a roughing-the-passer penalty on KU's Kevin Young and pass interference in the end zone against KU's Dexter McDonald. (KU 10, TTU 10).

5:13 — Baker Mayfield 19 run. Bustin kick. Tech's defense forced KU into a three-and-out and then benefited from an odd punt attempt in which KU's Trevor Pardula ran the ball for no gain instead of punting it. Two plays later, Mayfield ran up the middle on a called QB run and fell into the end zone to give the Red Raiders their first lead of the day. (TTU 17, KU 10).

0:00 — Ryan Bustin 25 field goal. The Red Raiders' defense continued to frustrate KU's offense and, after another three-and-out by the Jayhawks, the Red Raiders drove 68 yards in nine plays and 3:08 to add a field goal to its score as the first half expired. Mayfield hit Eric Ward for a 37-yard gain to set up the score, but the KU defense dug in at the 2 yard line and forced the field goal. (TTU 20, KU 10).

Third Quarter

14:46 — DeAndre Washington 4 run. Bustin kick. Texas Tech safety J.J. Gaines intercepted Heaps on the first pass of the second half after Tony Pierson tipped a pass into the air, allowing Gaines to settle under it and return it to the KU 8. After a penalty moved possession to the Kansas 4, Washington walked into the end zone and put the Red Raiders firmly in front. (TTU 27, KU 10).

11:46 — Ryan Bustin 28 field goal. After another three-and-out by the KU offense, the Red Raiders marched 61 yards in just under two minutes to add to its lead. Mayfield hit Ward and tight end Jace Amaro to set up the easy kick for Bustin, who missed his first kick of the day in the first quarter. (TTU 30, KU 10).

7:51 — Washington 5 run. Bustin kick. More of the same on this drive from the Red Raiders, who drove 80 yards in 12 plays and 2:32 to open this one up to true rout status. Mayfield was 7-of-8 passing on the drive that started at the TTU 20 after another stalled KU drive. (TTU 37, KU 10).

Fourth Quarter

14:49 — Eric Ward 25 pass from Davis Webb. Bustin kick. Despite starting quarterback Baker Mayfield heading to the bench for a pat on the back and an ice-cold Gatorade, the Red Raiders' offense kept rolling. Webb tossed a touchdown pass on his second throw of the day to cap a drive that spanned 50 yards in five plays and 1:15. (TTU 44, KU 10).

12:16 — Ryan Bustin 31 field goal. The comedy of errors continued early in the fourth quarter, as a snap from center that sailed over Heaps' head was recovered by Texas Tech deep in KU territory. The Red Raiders then tacked on three more easy points after moving just seven yards in four plays and 40 seconds. (TTU 47, KU 10).

10:30 — Dylan Cantrell 4 pass from Davis Webb. Bustin kick. With Michael Cummings in at quarterback for KU, the Red Raiders did not let up. Tech's defense stripped an attempted pass by Cummings and returned the fumble to the KU 6 yard line. Three plays later, Webb tossed his second TD pass of the day to a reserve tight end up made a nice grab near the back line of the north end zone. (TTU 54, KU 10).

7:43 — Andrew Turzilli 28 pass from Michael Cummings. Kick failed. Give the credit to KU's reserves for this drive, as Darrian Miller ran hard, Michael Cummings kept fighting and Turzilli, who has played very little this season, made a heck of a catch in the end zone and along the sideline. The drive spanned 77 yards in six plays and 2:40. (TTU 54, KU 16).

Comments

Boouk 6 years, 8 months ago

Whenever the financial resources become available, or if/when Weis resigns from this mess, here's who Zenger should hire as HC: Brent Venables. From there, Venables should hire one of Art Briles offensive assistants as the OC, and Mangino as the OL coach.

It's too bad this couldn't work out under Weis, but it's obvious we must move on ASAP. There is solid candidates out there who would take the job and could eventually turn this mess around, but unfortunately, it'll probably be awhile before Zenger can go get them. When that time comes around, hopefully we doesn't whiff like he did with Weis.

texashawk10 6 years, 8 months ago

Brent Venables is the reason for OU's decline. Art Briles is Art Briles OC and Mangino does not need to come back to KU under any capacity.

Boouk 6 years, 8 months ago

At least he'd bring some energy, youth, passion, and enthusiasm to the job, which would boost our recruiting, and play man coverage more than 2% of the time instead of surrendering easy completions in soft, predictable zones.

kay_you 6 years, 8 months ago

Energy will not help this team. Talent will.

Micky Baker 6 years, 8 months ago

There was not much Tech had to do today. We fake a punt on our own 20 on something like 4th and 15. We two or three fumbles on bad snaps. Cummings fumbled it two other times. Then that INT right at the start of the 3rd quarter on a ball that should have been caught by our guy, and well, just with those plays right there, we had no chance of winning if we score five TDs today othewise.

Chris Bailey 6 years, 8 months ago

That fake punt was unbelievable. We might have scored 5 TD's but even with that will still lose. I think our receivers are terrible and they just said on the post game that KU isn't as good as they were a year ago and I missed it but I think they said on offense. Which is unbelievable.

Ethan Berger 6 years, 8 months ago

not convinced the fake punt was by design, but if it was it was horrible executed. Horrible play call but man all three blocker whiffed. Which leads me to think the Punter saw something and took a chance.

texashawk10 6 years, 8 months ago

The fake punt was not a called play. Tech was in a look that was an automatic call for KU to fake. The blame still goes on the coaching staff because that down and distance and that deep in your own territory, a call has to be made to punt no matter what look Tech was in.

Marc Frey 6 years, 8 months ago

I watched MSU fake a punt and gain 25 yards. Talent!

texashawk10 6 years, 8 months ago

Was MSU 4th and 15 inside their own 20? It doesn't matter how much talent you have, the odds of converting in that situation were not high enough to justify not taking the automatic read off.

Alex Berger 6 years, 8 months ago

Bad snaps, fumbles, poor blocking made this game easy for Tech. Their average starting field position had to be like the KU 45. The game just got sloppier as Tech kept scoring.

Duane Rice 6 years, 8 months ago

how many of the students were left for the singing of the Alma mater.

baaron91 6 years, 8 months ago

Actually, there was probably around 100. And there wasn't even a "woo" at the end of the Rock Chant. That's because the students left were the actual fans who are there for Kansas athletics through good and bad.

Ethan Berger 6 years, 8 months ago

Lot of changes need to be made, but we don't have the players right now. It shouldn't be shocking after who was here before. We lack receivers and our o line gets destroyed. Better coaching will help also, but with this crew, not many coaches could win more then 4 games. We knew this was going to be a long process when Charlie took over. He might not be our guy, but we might as well let the guy recruit for at least one more year and let a better coach have something a lot better to work with then Charlie does.

Alex Berger 6 years, 8 months ago

Agreed. Recruiting is so important for us to be successful. We can't recycle coaches every 2 years and expect to get players. By the time the football season has started most 3-5 star high school prospects for that year have already committed to a team. A coaching staff needs to be in place in order to get the next year's class in place. The only way a bad football program like Kansas can get a leg up in recruiting is building relationships and offering scholarships to players before the big programs get involved with them, aka their junior year of high school.

Duane Rice 6 years, 8 months ago

i am actually going to listen to the CW press conference. Im interested what questions hes going to get asked.

Phil Leister 6 years, 8 months ago

Anybody calling for Weis to be canned is an idiot. He absolutely has to get 3 years before being fired. 16 games into his career is just way too soon. How are we ever going to built a program with a new coach every couple years? Play calling may be suspect, but it's obvious we just don't have the athletes to compete in the Big 12. Give it time Jayhawk fans. Let's save the 'fire Weis' talk for another year and half.

lama 6 years, 8 months ago

We can't afford to fire him after buying out Sweet Lew and Gill. We're stuck for three more years.

kay_you 6 years, 8 months ago

I agree. If we fire another head coach we are only putting ourselves in further jeopardy making it even tougher for the next coach. But losing at home today the way we did does not bode well for CW. I can weather the storm but I'm still on the fence regarding Charlie.

Doug Roberts 6 years, 8 months ago

People said the same thing about Turner Gill.

texashawk10 6 years, 8 months ago

Charlie Weis has to give play calling duties. Bringing in Cummings killed the rhythm Jake Heaps had going and it didn't fool Tech because when the hell has Cummings ever shown an ability to throw the ball? Ianello has to go, he is a worse position coach than Gill is a head coach. How in the hell do the WR's not know some of the most basic aspects of playing the position at this level? Aslam Sterling has to be benched for Riley Spencer at this point. The dude is too slow to play LT and how many penalties does he have this year? He had 3 or 4 today and it seems like he has multiple false starts and holding penalties called against him every game. Also why the hell did the corners quit jamming and pressing early in the second quarter. Mayfield didn't get into a rhythm until after the corners backed off and gave Tech the slant and other short routes. This game was just a poorly called game by the KU coaching staff that made bad calls at bad times and killed momentum KU had going on each side of the ball. Yes the talent is lacking, but not to the point where KU can't pick off an upset or two, but the play calling is going to hold KU back all year long on both sides of the ball. KU still has quality backs which is enough to make teams respect KU's running game so why the hell doesn't Charlie call any play action?

Brian Conrad 6 years, 8 months ago

best comment of the day hope the whole football staff reads this AAAAAAAAAA+++++++++++

kay_you 6 years, 8 months ago

...when the hell has Cummings ever shown an ability to throw the ball? That was a pretty nice pass to Turzelli in the end zone.

texashawk10 6 years, 8 months ago

One pass in garbage time against back ups is not the same middle of the game when it was still close.

kay_you 6 years, 8 months ago

Doesn't mean a thing in the final outcome but it was still a nice pass and since you are predicating your thesis that CW can not call a game it takes some of the air out of your theory. Everyone knows Cummings is in to run but he didn't. He threw a pass for a TD and a good one at that.

texashawk10 6 years, 8 months ago

How does 1 play in garbage time against back ups change the fact that this was a horribly called game by Weis? Explain why KU's offense was humming along just fine on the first two drives, then Michael Cummings comes in to run his little option package, then when Heaps comes back in, the KU offense struggled to move the ball the rest of the game. KU got over 1/3 of their offensive yards in the first two drives, then struggled to get a first down the rest of the game on any drive until Tech called the dogs off and put their back ups in. There is no good defense for the play calling today, it flat out sucked.

kay_you 6 years, 8 months ago

Oh the convenience of hindsight. If only we could make life's decisions after the fact.

kureader 6 years, 8 months ago

You wrote a pretty good analysis. I also don't understand why we don't use more play action. But, we're really limited by having a QB who can't get out of the pocket. But, I'm still not ready to give up on Weis as a play caller. He has made pretty big adjustments each game. Pierson and Bourbon are getting lots of touches, he has shortened passing routes (since we can't pass protect or catch the football). He has tried every personnel option he has. I respect Weis, I just don't like the pro-style offense. You need a mobile quarterback in college football. And, in our league you have to score 30 points to win a football game. That will never happen. But he also doesn't make excuses or criticize players or fans. And, he's not above "falling on the sword" if one of his players makes a bonehead play, like his punter did on Saturday. Though I don't disagree with you about our defensive coverage, I also hate to criticize a really good defensive coordinator. Texas Tech is a really good passing team. Mike Leach is an offensive genius. His style of play is what makes college football fun to watch. I am ready to say goodbye to our receivers coach. And, we need a different left tackle on offense, or we may as well play with 10 players. He is single-handedly killing our passing game. Anyway, I'm gonna hang in there with Weis for the rest of the year. I think he started in a deeper hold than most people realize, and he's working as hard as anyone could to find solutions.

kureader 6 years, 8 months ago

(deeper "hole", not hold) ... If we gotta blame someone, fine. Then, I'm still a certified, bona fide Gill/Perkins basher ... Four Super Bowl rings is enough to convince me that Charlie deserves more time.

eastcoasthawk 6 years, 8 months ago

Have to say that offensive performance was not only offensive but a pile of crap. Offensive line failure. Admire was getting blown up plus skuffs 3 snaps. Sterling was a third and short yip machine. How easy is it for a defensive coordinator when you have one QB to pass and one to run? Charlie's brainstorm for this week worked for all of one quarter. After that Tech made adjustments and we had nothing. Plus the offense screwed the defense by leaving them on the field most of the game once Tech figured us out. Last but not least too many stupid penalties and little heads up play. If we didn't score that TD in the 4th I would think we would have broken a record for most points given up after going to a 10 point lead. I like Charlie as our coach and believe he is on the right path overall but I just don't see his ego willing to accept an OC to work with him. This will leave Zenger in a tough spot if we don't show improvement from game to game. Today was a definite step backwards.

kay_you 6 years, 8 months ago

I think the loss of the left side of our o-line due to graduation has been underestimated.

Brian Conrad 6 years, 8 months ago

we did not step backward .. we were drug backwards with Charlie's play calling fueling the Tech Train

Bryce Landon 6 years, 8 months ago

Only two things looked good for the Jayhawks in this game: (1) The red helmet with the 1941 Fighting Jayhawk and (2) the first quarter.

If I were the 1941 Fighting Jayhawk, I would be embarrassed to be the emblem of a team that put up zero fight in the last three quarters of the game.

lama 6 years, 8 months ago

When will Tait, Keegan et al admit that KU made an horrific hire in Weis? The national experts laughed when Zenger made the hire, and it's been rah rah from the local media ever since. Good luck with that staidum renovation, KU.

Brian Conrad 6 years, 8 months ago

worst play calling in history .. Charlie YOUR team is getting worse fast. your passing calls when everyone knows we should run .. stupid . use your weakness leave strength watching the game.. pitiful. put every good run blocker in . stop out coaching yourself . RUN RUN AND MORE RUNS more tight ends to block do not even teach to pass block .. run Heaps , heck he can not pass. this falls on you Charlie the paly calling can be done better by any high school coach.. PLEASE RETIRE PLEASE ! after the fake punt you should not be allowed to sit in Allen field house ... had very high hopes from all the media bull ... you spew out how we are going to win last night.. are you on drugs ? every play kids miss where they are to be.. THAT IS COACHING .. do you have any competitive drive. you asked when you got here how Snyder can do it 90 miles west and KU can not... have YOU seen the crap on the field? the crap on the field is play calling !

kay_you 6 years, 8 months ago

I think it's been well established that fans and sportswriters are better at play calling than coaches.

Brian Conrad 6 years, 8 months ago

Kay would you go for it from your own 15 ? if not then would rather have you call that play .. pretty sure all us fan/coaches would have punted. maybe 99999999999999 out of 1000000000000000 times college coaches would have punted.. the game was tied just like saying I GIVE UP or I AM STUPID

kay_you 6 years, 8 months ago

The jury is still out. No question the fake punt was a bad call but your calling for RUN RUN and MORE RUNS would not be the best play calling either. We ran 37 times for 53 yards. Not what I'd call establishing a ground game. I have no issues with the play calling, just the number of penalties.

Chris Bailey 6 years, 8 months ago

Matt,

Ask Charlie when we're going to get an offensive coordinator! Dammit you can't be head coach and OC! Run the team! Let someone sit in the box and call the plays!

Bryce Landon 6 years, 8 months ago

I agree. Last I checked, we're last in the Big 12 in PPG. Weis being OC is putting the football team at a decided schematic disadvantage.

Chris Bailey 6 years, 8 months ago

We can't be very far from the bottom in the country in scoring. What are we averaging like 16 points. Not gonna win many putting up those numbers. It says on ESPN we're 105th in scoring but I think that's prior to this game at 19.3 points per game. So I guess we may be a bit lower. We're terrible either way!

kay_you 6 years, 8 months ago

A head coach can also be the OC. Remember Mike Leach?

Brian Conrad 6 years, 8 months ago

this was Charlie's fault period .. no matter what .. you get blocked , whatever BUT NEVER GO FOR IT IN TIE GAME !!! un friggin believable !!

Baker Mayfield 19 run. Bustin kick. Tech's defense forced KU into a three-and-out and then benefited from an odd punt attempt in which KU's Trevor Pardula ran the ball for no gain instead of punting it. Two plays later, Mayfield ran up the middle on a called QB run and fell into the end zone to give the Red Raiders their first lead of the day. (TTU 17, KU 10).

Brian Conrad 6 years, 8 months ago

obvious Ku worst team in big 12 .. Charlie no chance for upset if you suck the wind out of these young mens sails by calling STUPID PLAYS !!!

Erin Carter 6 years, 8 months ago

Dear HCCW and members of the football team. Just a friendly note to remind you that a college football game consists of four 15 minute quarters totaling 60 minutes in length. In my estimation, 15 minutes of really good football was played followed by 45 minutes of not so good football played. Just..really..bad..football....(sigh)....

kay_you 6 years, 8 months ago

I see a lot of fans disagreeing with the play calling but I thought the play calling was fine. Nice combination of passes and runs that atleast tried to keep the defense guessing. That's what you have to do when you don't have the talent to match the defense. My biggest complaint was the penalties

texashawk10 6 years, 8 months ago

How did the play calling keep the defense guessing? When Heaps was in, it was almost exclusively 5 wide sets and since Heaps can't run, Tech's DLine pinned their ears back and the secondary knew a pass was coming. When Cummings was in, KU was exclusively running option plays out of the inverted wishbone. That is not keeping a defense guessing. Keeping a defense guessing means a team is able to run or pass out of the same formation and doesn't give away what type of play is coming simply by the personnel on the field.

kay_you 6 years, 8 months ago

I didn’t see the Tech defense keying on runs or passes. The failure on offense was due to lack of execution. We are getting beat in the trenches and our receivers are still not getting the separation they need. And, way too many penalties.

texashawk10 6 years, 8 months ago

Yes, the execution was bad and Weis did the offensive line no favors by telegraphing whether a run or pass was coming based on which QB was in. And since you're apparently the only person who couldn't figure out that Jake Heaps at QB meant a pass was coming and that Michael Cummings at QB meant a running play was coming, I guess we need to get you on staff at a future KU opponent so that KU has a chance at winning.

kay_you 6 years, 8 months ago

In the bigger picture you might be right about the play calling but it’s not for the reasons you think. And, once you do land the play calling job you won’t have the convenience of hindsight to base your decisions on. Good luck. RCJH.

Adam Miller 6 years, 8 months ago

You know, after reading all of your responses kay_you, I feel forced to say this: Hey Charlie, nice of you to get an account and join us here. You need to hire an OC.

Thanks.

Lance Cheney 6 years, 8 months ago

As I'm watching the KSU-OSU game, KSU blocks a field goal, and it floats down right into one of their DB's hands and he's gone to the house. Un-fricken-believable how lucky they are.

John Fitzgerald 6 years, 8 months ago

I like Charlie Weis so I'm going to put the blame of our recent football success on Perkins. He fired Mangino, and hired Gill. Two biggest mistakes of our football program.

kay_you 6 years, 8 months ago

I can't disagree with that logic but I don't think it earns Charlie a pass. Thus far Gill has been a better coach, atleast on paper. He did beat a conference opponent as well as a ranked Georgia Tech. Today's performance sucked canal water.

Duane Rice 6 years, 8 months ago

Remember last years team our OLine was the best asset, who was brought to you buy T Gill. They all graduated! It just goes to show it can always get worse.

Adam Miller 6 years, 8 months ago

"Remember last years team our OLine was the best asset, who was brought to you buy T Gill. They all graduated!" -- If they all graduated, I'm forced to assume they'd been at KU for 4 years, not 3. That'd make them Mangino's.

texashawk10 6 years, 8 months ago

KU's 2012 starting OLine.

LT: Tanner Hawkinson, 2008 recruiting class (Mangino) LG: Duane Zlatnik: 2008 recruiting class (Mangino) C: Trevor Marrongelli: 2008 recruiting class (Mangino) RG: Randall Dent: 2009 recruiting class (Mangino) RT: Aslam Sterling: 2012 recruiting class (Weis), Gavin Howard: 2009 recruiting class (Mangino)

Brad Avery 6 years, 8 months ago

I hope Weis will do the right thing and resign. He is still being paid by Nortre Dame and surely doesn't need the money. Zenger can start talking to agents and contacts immediately without creating a stir. Craig Bohl at North Dakota State would be an early favorite.

texashawk10 6 years, 8 months ago

If Craig Bohl leaves NDSU, it's to take over Nebraska when Pelini gets fired at the end of the year.

Robert Brown 6 years, 8 months ago

He is not going to resign. People were saying that Gill should do the honorable thing and resign two years ago. Unfortunately Weis came to KU to revive his reputation. It has only gotten worse.

Brad Avery 6 years, 8 months ago

He might. Charlie is apparently not in good health, and he obviously doesn't know how to build a winner as a head coach at Kansas. Based on his success with the Chiefs and the Patriots, he should be able to get a pro offensive coordinating job (if he still wants to work) when one opens up.

Marc Frey 6 years, 8 months ago

To me, this is all about the lack of talent at KU. The W. Texas Aggies started a walk-on QB who looked like a Heisman candidate.

Brian Conrad 6 years, 8 months ago

how did Mangino come in and few years later we went 12-1 won Orange bowl? only 5 years back... seem to remember high ranked recruiting class .. higher than other schools that will kill us.. problem coaching..

kay_you 6 years, 8 months ago

I completely concur rb84. More than anything it is talent, or lack of that is keeping this team from winning.

Doug Cramer 6 years, 8 months ago

Kay_you brings up a good point regarding Charlie's performance vs. Gill's. I'm not sure if we're any better than Gill's two teams.

I really don't think it's Charlie's play calling either. The defense has some serious problems up front. The offense has major problems up front.

We simply don't have the talent in the trenches. Heaps is an accurate passer...and still learning his decision making. But when you don't have time to make decisions...thats not on Heaps...its on the Offensive line.

Also...the D-line was getting blown up all day. Gaping holes...and plenty of time in the pocket for the opposing QBs. Same $#!t...different season.

Patricia Davis 6 years, 8 months ago

And we need more seating at our stadium, why? This is post pathetic.

Erin Carter 6 years, 8 months ago

exactly! need to renovate the football program before even thinking about the stadium!!!

Brian Conrad 6 years, 8 months ago

Charlie needs to understand... last year bad . KU football fans will tolerate being competitive .. not asking for big 12 championships just do not embarrass us like YOU did today !

Doug Cramer 6 years, 8 months ago

Cooonrod - Given the lack of talent...I'm not sure if there is much he can do.

John Fitzgerald 6 years, 8 months ago

You cannot be a successful coach until you and your players understand that playing football is not a right, it is a privilege. I like Weis but he was a successful offensive coordinator, not a successful head coach. It's hard exactly to pinpoint the true reason we are not improving but regardless if it hasn't happened yet, it probably won't happen for a while. I'm not going to say what needs to be fixed or how it needs to he fixed because I don't have a dang clue, but what I will say is our entire football program needs to get their heads out of their arses. Game preparation for the next 8 weeks? Win ... Simple as that.

rob4lb 6 years, 8 months ago

Weis and KU football is stuck with each other. Weis will get at least four years because Zenger's career is tied to Weis's success. I never understood what in Weis's background made anyone think he could be successful at KU. The rest of the country thought this was a strange and bad hire and there really was no reason to disagree with those opinions.

There is no reason for any team to lose at home by this much of a margin. Texas Tech will not win the Big 12. They are probably a mid level team.

There are so many Weis apologists who for some reason have been sold on his brilliance. I have never seen brilliance. Weis is a much better salesman than coach.

Bryce Landon 6 years, 8 months ago

Weis did take Notre Dame to two BCS bowls. Just sayin'...

pepper_bar 6 years, 8 months ago

Some KU players apparently joined the ridiculous APU movement today... maybe they can lobby to have the NCAA stop keeping score at football games. http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/kansas-players-make-statement-and-join-apu-reform-movement-100513

Micky Baker 6 years, 8 months ago

Watching K-State at Oklahoma State, the K-State receivers come back for the ball. They block for the other wide receivers. The jump in the air and catch the ball when there are defenders around them. The same thing holds true with the Oklahoma State receivers.

Bench all of the 2 deep receivers, except for Mundine, Bourbon, and Parmalee, and make them fight for second string if they want to see the field again. If they don't want to, then they shouldn't be allowed back on the field this season. If they miss a pass that they get both hands on more than one time in a game, no more snaps that day.

If Jake Heaps takes another sack because he's looking deep instead of taking what the defense gives, then bring in one of the freshman. NO CUMMINGS. He was one of the worst players on the field today.

JayHawkFanToo 6 years, 8 months ago

We just don't have the players to compete in the Big 12. Why was Cummings in the game? He definitely is not the future KU QB; Montell Cozart looked a lot better in pre-season and, IMHO, has a better potential than Cummings.

Did you see the TTech receivers? Play after play they had unbelievable catches while ours looked like high school players. Texas Tech is a good, high scoring team and they are justifiable ranked in the top 20. Winning this game was unrealistic, but I had hoped it would be closer.

Some players do well in practice and some do well in games. Most KU players fall in the first category where they look good in practice but disappear at game time. As far as I can tell, we have four or five true "gamers" including Sims, Pierson, Heeney, McDonald and Bourbon and a few borderline, but by and large, the rest just do not perform at the level that would make KU a decent team.

What makes it harder to take is how well they played in the first quarter, one of the best quarters since the Colorado win, only to completely melt down the rest of the game.

At this point calling for HC Weis firing is ridiculous. Most knowledgeable fans knew it would be a 3-5 year job and it sure looks like it will be closer to 5. Hopefully the team will regroup and concentrate on the remaining games and put this one behind.

texashawk10 6 years, 8 months ago

The only real way KU will ever get to the point of being consistently competitive in the Big 12 is if Phil Anschutz decides to become very heavily involved in KU football the same way Pickens is at Okie St. OSU's turnaround into an upper tier Big 12 team started when Pickens decided to start throwing money at the OSU program to upgrade everything and Phil Anschutz is the only KU alum I'm aware of with that kind of money to make a true difference in a football program like KU over the long term.

John Fitzgerald 6 years, 8 months ago

I wonder what goes on in Manginos mind as he sees our scores? I mean ... I'd be smiling pretty heavily if I were him. It's like having a bad breakup, and the girl (KU or more accurately Lew Perkins) that dumped you ends up on drugs and getting aids while (Mangino) the guy wins the lottery. Heart breaking ...

JayHawkFanToo 6 years, 8 months ago

So, you would smile heavily if the girl that dumped you ends up on drugs and gets AIDS? Really?

JayHawkFanToo 6 years, 8 months ago

You should ask you current boyfriend; he probably will find out he got it from you after he dumps you...and you did not even win the lottery. Pity.

Armen Kurdian 6 years, 8 months ago

KU got overexcited after jumping out to the lead, and then getting the ball with a 10-0 lead. They made some mental mistakes, a personal foul, killed their own momentum. But it was still eminently salvageable until the fake. Might be one of the five most bizarre play calls I've ever seen in my life, pro or college. I really can't wait to see what the heck that was all about.

Keep cheering them on...just keep supporting them. Don't let them down.

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